ThanQ for your work
greetings, good to see you here
wearthene.ws anon?
>I've come to the conclusion that when I bake its my kitchen and I include the things that seem relevant.
yes, it is YOUR kitchen within limits
You'll learn thru feedback about notables, but yes, if it's notable to YOU the baker make it a notable
One of the unique things each baker brings is perspective and it flavors the notables selection, this is a GOOD thing.
I cannot stress enough how different viewpoints are good, if something doesn't make notables in one bread it will in a subsequent bread if it is truly notable
delicately and decisively dissect?
a classroom is a perfect place for examples
and some anons present very, very good examples of bad behavior
case in point
60fdc9 is a provocateur that has cast out bait and gotten nibbles to slide the thread
meaningless pilpul to distract and divert energy from more useful tasks
>'sorry, no time now, plz repost nb'
feel no guilt over that!
a baker's time is precious
anything that is truly notable will be posted again and again and again until a baker makes it a notable and sometimes it resurfaces and is notabled again and again
>trying to watch 3 boards at once
KEK
thanks, I needed a laugh
in the future if you are baking I think it would be best if you kept your attention on the task
conversations here are not nearly as essential
to answer the question if past history is example FJ does his janitor's sweep at least once a day, occasionally he'll be online more often but no regular pattern other than at least once per 24 hrs
>if it was as bad as he's implying,
watching from the sidelines I'd say it was very very bad
a true 5th column
same group that wore 8bit out and caused him to relinquish control also turned on FJ
almost poetic justice
almost
that is where the time constraint comes in…
gotta bake late enough that the old bread is filled, but early enough that you can post
FRESH BREAD
>> 999999
>> 999999
>> 999999
Before the end of the bread…
timing
timing
timing
you're doing great picking it all up
keep asking questions and trying things
stay here
keep asking questions
we love it
we love new bakers
>NNooo, because if anon clicked on it he would be directed to the dough link instead of the original link with the IWO image
am I making any sense here?
yes. the post # you want to copy is the OP
not the dough post
you copy the post # of the 1st thing you posted the Original Post (OP)
that is the post # that gets posted in the old bread to lead anons to the new bread
>r u sure?
hell no
no way to be sure unless you have BO or BV privileges on /qresearch/
and I don't
>here's a q for you all:
>Who the hell did the actually baking
I have suspicions, nothing more
I learned way back in the dinosaur days
all same same
link to OP
link to dough post
all lead to new bread
Should FastJack be given a specific invitation to the seminar next week? (04/09/2020) ?
there are major differences between attacking a baker, criticizing a baker and helping a baker to correct an error
and I really have to question those who attack bakers on the basis of perceived "clownhood" etc…
the whole is pretty much a moot point in my book these days due to wearethene.ws
along with the undeniable fact that 99% of the truly notable items get made a "notable" evenutally
key word eventually
if ego is involved and the anon is fishing for (you)s then not being made notable is a situation to be upset about
and this upset usually shows up in vitriol
otherwise the item gets made notable as it gets re-posted and more anons comment on it
as for including things that aren't really notable…
taste varies and bakers being human will naturally find slightly different things notable
until we reach an absurd number of notables I don't see any problem
what is an 'absurd' number?
well obviously 751 because the bread & dough posts aren't really notable
some slow breads might have 100 posts that are truly and significantly notable not sure I"ve ever seen one quite that high, but close a few times, others might have none this I've seen a few times
what is the point of notables?
so someone catching up doesn't have to scan the whole bread right?
so… as long as the notables section is shorter than 5% of the total bread it is a significant improvement over needing to scan the entire bread
in a perfect world all bullshit would be filtered and all significantly notable posts would be collected…
I have long been a fan of baker ID for the purpose of tracking quality
but after long consideration I'm not really sure it serves the purpose
it is obvious enough when a badly baked bread should be abandoned and a new one baked
nicknames or handles or namefag titles
no matter the name the only place they truly serve a purpose is here and to reassure a baker that the handoff is to a trusted or non trusted baker
the only thing that will truly serve is bakers who actually care about being accurate and honest outnumbering those who would hamper or stop this place from being effective and efficient
>I didn't do either was my point.
and I did not mean to imply that you did
as for IDs…
>The ID is irrelevant to that assessment.
>Rainman/Megashill (you know who)
>I personally agree with magaveli
so labels, tags whatever are important
they do have purpose on at least some levels yes?
here where we can practice WWG1WGA
where we can improve ourselves and each other
being able to converse rather than expound is important
only user ID allows a conversation, else who would know who replied to whom?
when the bread changes efforts must be made to assure continuity
user ID's are optional you realize
BO can choose to not enable them
what difference would that make?
__no user ID at all_
>We wouldn't need IDs or even need to contemplate them if the BO or BVs would check on a handoff
two problems with that
a. it requires an authority figure to always be on hand to act
b. how to stop a 'bad baker' without being guilty of "censorship"?
how to stop one…
ban that anon?
delete the anons's bread?
the anons can tell if a bread is bad or not and will migrate to a better one
if the only criteria for being bad or not is taste on choice of notables…
you admit part of the reason is to
>see something that might help them in a dig, help them in a graphic, or maybe even get them to start a dig or graphic
can you or anyone always know what those are and aren't
something that seems stupid to you or me might spark the insight that allows some anon to solve a puzzle of great importance
who knows?
who knows?
I can't claim omniscience, can you?
>I see it more as actual moderation than censorship.
you'll admit that a faulty bread will fall to the bottom of the catalog without an anchor
so why require one?
IF the case is extreme yes, but only then
I've come to the conclusion that signing the dough is about the best we can do at this point
great idea
make one and I'll pin it
yes, duplicates, slides and other obvious threads need to be cleaned out
but that's not what we were talking about
we were discussing the need for the ADMINs to excersice a form of censorship on "breads" and those dups etc… aren't legit subject matter on /qresearch/
>using the class thread
it seems to be the defacto meta thread after the class is over and until the next class is held
>often think they gain as much or more from our back-and-forth as from the actual baking lessons.
some probably do
>This can get really quirky.
and resource intensive
>Grateful for the existence of /comms/ and these classes.
I'm happy that it's true purpose is being utilized
>that baker is too good otherwise to not know how to make a title.
there are assumptions and insinuations in that statement
a. baker is fully knowledgeable on reasons behind proper formatting
b. baker did it deliberately
IF it becomes a pattern and baker refuses to comply then yes it would be subversive
ELSE baker will learn why it's important and improve
time will tell all
>are there are new / trainee bakers who wouldn't mind more classes?
if there are new students I think it would be best to keep the meta discussions separate tonight
>And better comms among bakers, as well, so that misunderstandings don't turn into grudge fights that distract from our work.
>Because it's the work that matters.
it does seem to be "OSS1" with a burr under his saddle
see
>I'm not happy about it
>but there isn't a damn thing I can do
in reviewing all this
>Why exactly? when have you ever done that before. Show sauce
you have a point, I did tell rainman which baker you were as if it is hard to tell with that post. You don't quite understand "rainman"
"Rainman" isn't stupid, but most of the posts are 90% bullshit. You'll notice I said 90%, because "Rainman" is clever in a way, always (or nearly always) has some not-bullshit mixed in.
The trick I'd like you to learn is to ignore "rainman's" taunts & bullshit, extract the occasional gem and move on.
You jumped all over me for "siding with "rainman" when I called your attention to a posting that I thought was notable. If "rainman" said the sky was blue would you immediately assume that all who agreed were on "rainman's" side on everything ? That they were colluding with "rainman"?
I've got nothing against you
I just wish you'd grow up a bit and learn what it's all about here
>I said I was done.
delusions of grandeur as well
just because you say the discussion is done
leave then
end this discussion
expose the weakness
you have your priorities mixed up anon
you aren't baking for the right reasons
you litter your breads with needless drama
you act as a gatekeeper when baking to server your agenda
can't stop you from baking
you can't stop me from speaking truth
>Sounds great. Go for it.
a dough revision history is needed
needs to have changes and reasons for change (dead link, updated link etc…)
the question is where to keep it
/qrb/ is a good choice
/comms/ is a good choice
/qresearch/ is the best choice but it requires the BO to cooperate (keep bogus posts removed)
my 2¢
>not to be included in the bred, but a running list?
sounds very good
>As needed when the list gets too long, page 5 could become it's own pastebin
not so good
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too much opportunity for error
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run out of room in the dough's pastebin?
I think it'll be a long, long time before we hit the pastebin character limit
best option I've heard so far
add a section at end of dough that doesn't get posted in bread
the obvious implication is that you are following instruction from an outside source
I guess you'll just keep your little secrets
please realize you need to either come clean or straghten up yer opsec
as rumor of this type of shit is what fuels anons like OSS1
IF you like adding drama and bogus bullshit to the board you're no friend of mine
>whoever has been flapping their gums in general accusing bakers of many things.
I've seen a few old regulars with that same sad song, but there's a new voice lately
bit of that erm.. discussion above
in re;
swatting shills in general seems to me
like swatting bees
leave 'em alone and they buzz around harmlessy a minor annoyance
start swatting 'em and they swarm and usually disrupt things
I understand the temptation
I have been visited by the spirit of Argues~with~shills a time to two myself
I just feel it's a pointless exercise that only validates them with attention
my gripe?
sorry if I've confused you
still very confused about
who told you to "stand down"
and who is "wizard"
not real fond of the idea of bakers using a secret back chanel to collaborate
raises my hackles
see
and don't like being taunted with secrets
see
don't mean to be rude or paranoid, but…
>pic related