Education, discussion, and inspiration regarding the founding documents of the United States of America.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The Constitution - https://constitutionus.com/

Declaration of Independence - https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript

Bill of Rights - https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript

This is a General thread. Which means all posts must be ON TOPIC. Discussion of constitutional topics is welcome. Off-topic posts will be deleted without warning.

https://www.youtube.com/user/PreservetheNation/videos

Scott Bradley's youtube channel all about The Constitution. He is the most easy to understand and based dude I have ever seen. I encourage everyone here to go back into the past and listen to his videos. They are all really very good… You will learn a lot.

https://www.classicalcapital.com/

A breakdown of the history of the 20th century. I am still reading the book.

Interviews on the same topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ClXnLMMpN8 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5FulVTeyVI 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZF3T4sDvk4 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC26FVN61fk 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGowYY_jRNA 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHwlOiB9UqQ 6

THE FEDERALIST PAPERS. A mandatory read for anyone who loves The Constitution

The 9th and the 10th are my favorite… Read them then ask where/how outfits like the TSA or FED or IRS are in The Constitution… Ofcourse they are not there so how do they exist? They exist through The Broad Interpretation of the Commerce Clause. Literally they say that they are "regulating commerce" nearly the entire Federal Government exists under this commerce clause. Does that sound reasonable to you?

>>2972

Awesome addition! These documents are so important and inspiring for our Patri-hearts.

Would be cool to do a side by side of some of the changes since then.

Or a map from then till now. We can call it- Our legislation matters! Choose your leaders wisely.

Worth noting: the Federalist papers were the birth place of the Federal Reserve, right? It was a good “idea” that wouldn’t play out well in reality.

Just brainstorming. Note- pre coffee so it’s [my thoughts] all kinda dusty and pixelated.

>>3073

NO the Federalist Papers were NOT the birthplace of the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve was gestated at Jekyll Island (Georgia) just prior to 1913 IIRC.

These two that you equated are just about opposite in purpose.

>>3073

>>3073

>Worth noting: the Federalist papers were the birth place of the Federal Reserve, right? It was a good “idea” that wouldn’t play out well in reality.

Holy fuck… So you are saying you have NEVER EVER listened to or read the Federalist papers? What the actual fuck? Just because it has the word FEDERAL in it does not mean that it is the same thing. If you are serious with this question then you need to actually invest 5-6 minutes of time and learn about the FED and where it came from… If you are a shill (which is what you are, you know it.. I know it…) then make sure you get ALL your vaccines.

>>3073

>>3114

I guess we should forgive an Australian for knowing next to nothing about American history. Hopefully they will be more careful next time about posting ill-formed opinions in a General thread.

1) What are the Federalist Papers?

The Federalist Papers is a collection of 85 articles and essays written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay under the collective pseudonym "Publius" to promote the ratification of the United States Constitution.The collection was commonly known as The Federalist until the name The Federalist Papers emerged in the 20th century. The original plan was to write a total of 25 essays …

The first 77 of these essays were published serially in the Independent Journal, the New York Packet, and The Daily Advertiser between October 1787 and April 1788.[1] A compilation of these 77 essays and eight others were published in two volumes as The Federalist: A Collection of Essays, Written in Favour of the New Constitution, as Agreed upon by the Federal Convention, September 17, 1787 by publishing firm J. & A. McLean in March and May 1788.[2][3] The last eight papers (Nos. 78–85) were republished in the New York newspapers between June 14 and August 16, 1788. …

2) What is the Federal Reserve?

My go-to source on the creation of the Federal Reserve is The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin.

The Creature from Jekyll Island. Griffin's 1994 book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, draws parallels between the Federal Reserve and a bird of prey. He has opposed the Federal Reserve since the 1960s, saying it constitutes a banking cartel and an instrument of war and totalitarianism….

I simply wish to set the record straight.

>>3118

The real issue is that this conversation CAN. EVEN. HAPPEN. If an (((Australian))) (weak cover) shows up here who is not even kinda up to speed on this shit then it should not be a low grade off the cuff slinging of basic information about this. Why do the 'Australians' not know about this stuff? Well, because no one in the US knows about this stuff because public school is fake and gay and full of steaming dogshit.

So now yall are stuck with me teaching this shit. Take the time to learn it yourself I dont know everyting.

>>3118

How Alexander Hamilton set the stage for the Federal Reserve as we know it today.

It wasn’t that our founding Father’s didn’t agree on some form of the Constitution. The Anti-Federalist just firmly believed in the Bill of Rights and it’s supremacy over the proposed Constitution. The Federalists wanted primarily national-based power and Anti-Federalist wanted primarily state based power. "The Federalists wanted to replace the Articles of Confederation with the Constitution, the Anti-Federalists wanted to keep the Articles.” (If you’d like to understand more about the two party paradigm, a great article on it can be found here (1). Each side had legitimate arguments for where the power should rest. The central (private) bank was only one topic that arose from the discussion, however the flavor of debate over the issue was the same. 

At the time, America had recently, yet not completely, severed it’s relationship with England, and many (Anti-Federalists) had concerns over establishing a central (private) ‘bank’ modeled after the Bank of England. They believed doing so, might allow America to be “purchased” with primarily private funds, many of which could be foreign. How could we possibly control the influx of money from these sources, if the bank remained a private corporation and thus not transparent in nature? A private bank can not be “audited” by anyone but itself, and thus offered no accountability to the people. 

The fears of the anti-federalist would eventually become a reality. Federalist, Alexander Hamilton, and the Federalists, proposed a central bank. Their efforts proved to be successful and did, in fact, birth the first American Central Bank (2). Though that bank did see an early demise, it is the basis for the Federal Reserve as we know it today. A central bank was established with $2 million Treasury dollars and $8 million private investors, many of which were foreign (3).

1.http://factmyth.com/federalists-and-anti-federalists-explained <http://factmyth.com/federalists-and-anti-federalists-explained/>

2.https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/2007/the-bank-that-hamilton-built#:~:text=The%20intellectual%20architect%20of%20the%20bank%E2%80%94known%20today%20as,profoundly%20influenced%20the%20economic%20development%20of%20this%20country

3.https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/first_bank_of_the_us

>>3249

I refer you to a professional

>>2980

Yawwnnn. Shilling for the FED. A sheckle has been deposited in your account for this response. 2 of your sources are from the FED itself and the other is … well I dont even know. One of those "Fact Checkers" like snopes? A fat guy and an ex prostitute who ask google if it is true?

You want my sources?

LOOK OUT YOUR FUCKING WINDOW AT HOW FUCKED THE WORLD, THAT IS COMPLETELY CONTROLLED BY THE FED, IS.

That is my source. Oy vey. or chingchong dingdong Whatever one applies to you.

>>3249

Kindly remedy your ignorance before posting on this topic again.

https://mises.org/library/case-against-fed-0

Book

The Case Against the Fed by Murray N. Rothbard

Rothbard provides a succinct account of the origins of money, showing how money must originate from a commodity. Banking originated from goldsmiths, who issued warehouse receipts for gold deposited with them. From this a fractional reserve system developed, inherently prone to monetary expansion and panic.

In the late nineteenth century, a movement toward bank centralization arose among both “progressives” and bankers, the latter eager to increase their profits. From these plans, the Federal Reserve System developed. Rothbard shows the dominate influence of the banking House of Morgan at the Fed’s inception. During the New Deal, Rockefeller interests took first place in influence, with the Morgan interests reduced to a subordinate though still potent role.

The book concludes with an account of the Fed’s role in causing inflation and the business cycle. Abolition of this nefarious agency must be part of any agenda for genuine financial reform.

Author:

Murray N. Rothbard

Murray N. Rothbard made major contributions to economics, history, political philosophy, and legal theory. He combined Austrian economics with a fervent commitment to individual liberty.

Table of Contents

Introduction: Money and Politics

The Genesis of Money

What Is the Optimum Quantity of Money?

Monetary Inflation and Counterfeiting

Legalized Counterfeiting

Loan Banking

Deposit Banking

Problems for the Fractional-Reserve Banker: The Criminal Law

Problems for the Fractional-Reserve Banker: Insolvency

Booms and Busts

Types of Warehouse Receipts

Enter the Central Bank

Easing the Limits on Bank Credit Expansion

The Central Bank Buys Assets

The Origins of the Federal Reserve: The Advent of the National Banking System

Origins of the Federal Reserve: Wall Street Discontent

Putting Cartelization Across: The Progressive Line

Putting a Central Bank Across: Manipulating a Movement, 1897–1902

The Central Bank Movement Revivies, 1906–1910

Culmination at Jekyll Island

The Fed At Last: Morgan-Controlled Inflation

The New Deal and the Displacement of the the Morgans

Deposit "Insurance"

How the Fed Rules and Inflates

What Can Be Done?

>>3249

>>3289

Are you saying the Central Bank that Hamilton conceived is not exactly the same as the corrupt and satanic Federal Reserve (central bank)? I see no evidence here that it was not.

>>3289 So, are you saying Hammilton's central bank was not the same concept

As the Federal Reserve (central bank) ?Because I see no proof here of how it’s not.

You’ve only provided links to the actual establishment of our current federal reserve and nothing that states Hammilton’s bank was NOT, in essence the same thing.

The Federalists were the ones who were pro- central bank. The Anti- Federalists were against it.

>>3284

The concept of the Federal Reserve was certainly a Federalist one.

As far as being "pro-fed" now days, things are different.

By saying "PRO FED", i am referring to the distribution of power WITHIN our borders and not "PRO "FEDERAL RESERVE". The Federal Reserve (central bank) is a concept that will never work [unless completely restructured and held accountable by Americans] because the funding for it is currently backed by global money/power, just as it was when Hamilton conceived it [central bank].

The founding fathers would turn over in their graves if they witnessed the what their simple arguments would evolve into.

While small government [Anit-Fed back in hammilton's day] works in a country that is self governed (ie-no global control, the American ideal)- it DOES NOT when that "small government control" has become two sided and one of those sides is pushing a global new world order that leaves its citizens in the hands of a corrupt global oligarchy. Wither the current democratic officials who are pushing the global agenda [calling it small government- ie- Anti Federal distribution of power] are aware of just what they are promoting, remains to be seen. Each of us must awaken in God's time. Some of those Dems are just victims of a two party paradigm that has been pushed [on purpose] since the Federal Reserve was established. The MSM has become a cheap megaphone for the NWO. Pro small federal control means power to the American people, NOT power to the[few] global elites whose agenda is one of global dominance with no regard to person.

Perhaps the Federal government is necessary at this point to regain control of our beloved country. When the infighting has become a war between American independent Liberty and a satanic plan to de-populate the world, American must be restructured [traitors arrested] to take back it's armies and use them to protect itself against wars from within. This can only happen when the Commander in Chief is American [trump?] and not doing bidding for the queen [HRC].

Abolishing the Federal Reserve (Central Bank) is essential in taking back our country. We [as a country] can afford necessary military if our money is appropriated ethically and used first and foremost for our country's protection. We can not continue to be the Army for the world until we secure American soil and liberties. Once we've established a sound border [digitally, physically, politically, financially]- we will be better equip to take on satanist world wide.

JFK was shot for it, Jackson dodged bullets for it, one can only imagine the protection necessary for Potus at this point [federal protection]. We are witnessing biblical proportions in the sense that these things have been prophesied and obviously planned [Internal Bumblbees]. We have more than we know, in that we have been given a time travel document to guide us (similar to the bible, but not to be confused with). God Wins. We will not know the exact time or place, but we can watch for the signs.

Hopefully the sins of Hammilton [Federalist] will not be repeated and we can re-define Federalism to include the "only if American" clause and redistribute power accordingly.

>>3290

>>3298

EXACTLY!!!! The concept of a Central Bank run with GLOBAL Funds is not, and has never been a truly FEDERAL one!

This is the U.S. Constitution General thread.

>>1630 is the Constitutional Money thread.