This was all a ploy to push anons to ENDchan. I would bet my last dollar they are the ones DDOSing the board to try to convince anons to head their when the board is laggy/down. Screenshot is of baker that changed dough this evening.
>They requested to add this which will keep all their stuff in their thread.
They wanted a warroom thread so they could post links to endchan and direct anons there. It was the point of all of the shilling. Endchan is a honeypot.
o7
Google links directly to end, all the evidence I need to believe it is a honeypot.
>IT IS AT THIS POINT IN THE STORY THAT YOU ARE KINDLY INVITED TO NOTICE THAT ALL THE KVETCHING AND COMPLAINING AND REEEEEEING CAMEAFTERTHE BAKERCLUB BARGED IN TO GET THINGS THEIR WAY.
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>NOTWITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THE REVISED DOUGH.
The blow up last night started when I asked
"Why the fuck do we need this shit in the dough?" after which, for simply asking the question I was attacked by all the teamwork shills that had came here to push for a link to end chan. Didn't take more than 1 bread before the Endchan link was there and people were trying to direct anons to it.
>Now -neckyourself.jpg-
Good to see you again.
>Gives anons an idea of what's going on, but all anons not just bakers.
Exactly the reason I did what I did last night. Sometimes you have to get the enemy to expose themselves. Mission accomplished.
Information warfare, chess not checkers.
>>bakers club.
>There is no bakers club.
Show me where I said there was a bakers club retard.
>>i got attacked
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>Well, poor you. You just attacked bakers in your post, and now you want tea and sympathy?
I forced them to attack me purposely, retard.
>Don't need help of the brand you are offering,
>over and out.
Hit and Run, Vanish.
>so if you think I am part of this tripe, kindly go fuck yourself :)
People weren't arguing back and forth, 10 shills jumped on me for bringing it up and you jumped in with them.
>I DEFEND YOUR ASS AND YOU FUCKING ATTACK ME.
How exactly was calling me fag boi and telling me to neck myself defending? You got lumped into the trip because you inserted yourself into the it.
>I DEFEND YOUR ASS AND YOU FUCKING ATTACK ME.
>YOU WORDS WERE IDIOTIC, AND I FUCKING MOCKED THEM
>exactly. because you were BEING ONE.
>I was defending you
>I was comparing you to rainman
>I was defending you
>I was calling you fag boi
>I was defending you
>I was calling your words idiotic
>I was defening you
>I was using my baker tag to help create a consensus
>I was defending you
>iF i WASN'T DEFENDING YOUR ACTIONS, i WOULD HAVE LEFT YOUR PASTEBIN TO ROT AND WENT TO BED.
Thanks white knight, I didn't have a pastebin.
> but complaint about getting attacked–no use complaining
I wasn't complaining. I saw what was happening and said what I did so they would attack me. Part you are missing GYB. That's why I specifically said "Why theFUCK" Sorry I called you a retard.
>A non comfy anon will not post digs, and will just shitpost.
I was posting the way I did so they would continue to attack me and expose themselves.
see
>> but complaint about getting attacked–no use complaining
>
>I wasn't complaining. I saw what was happening and said what I did so they would attack me. Part you are missing GYB. That's why I specifically said "Why theFUCK" Sorry I called you a retard.
Was for you, apologies I called you retarded.
Damn Fagevelli you just playedyourselvesextra hard.
> i DID NOT CALL YOU RAINMAN i SAID YOU WERE ACTING LIKE THEM. -ID 758382
>>I said you called me fag boi and told me to neck myself. -ID 5b9a87 (Baker)
>exactly. because you were BEING ONE.
Not only were you baking as5b9a87you were shilling forWRandendchanas758382
Chess, not checkers you dumb fuck
>Gets busted dual boxing and shilling by own admissions, blames anon that caught him, don't respond to charges.
>see the post below yours, and above this one.
> looks like all my responses in that shot convey exactly what I asserted here, in this thread.
Show me where you asserted that you were both baking last night and shilling under 2 sep IDs.
>>hard to discern what you think is a problem with class.
>see the post below yours, and above this one.
Also, if you're trying to blame for division in baking class Rusty can see who was and was not in baking classes. Last time I was on /COMMS/ before this chain of events was to warn GYB shills were trying to gaslight him >>10301 Which was 04/11/2020. And just so there's no confusing here's who just wrecked you shill. (pic related)
>You need more proof? pff. it's like it was on cue.
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Become incredulous and indignant
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Use a straw man.
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Question motives.
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Associate opponent charges with old news.
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Ignore proof presented
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Change the subject.
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Silence critics
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Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
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Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
>why is that?
Maybe I like picking on morons. Maybe I just hate shills. It's apparent now to all that read this you fit into both categories, yo.
Still trying to ignore the fact that you just got exposed for who and what you were involved in. Time to switch to a new personality.
>this kindergarten tit-for-tat squabbling is not a productive use of time
Nor is shilling while baking and dual boxing. Especially when targeting anons calling out shills for trying to direct people to endchan.
>YOU do not. You are the best anon I have ever met for bakers.
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Establish and rely upon fall-back positions
Plain and simple homeboy was baking and shilling dual-box last night, was pushing for the WR links to endchan, he was called out and is now trying to change the subject to anything and everything other than the fact he was involved in what happened last night.
>traducing
Funny how all the sudden you talk like a fed instead of a gangsta, yo. Guess the mask fell off.
Traducing would involve me being deceptive, I didn't IP hop, I didn't manipulate the bread, I didn't go along with a raid of shills from endchan and give them what they want while attacking anons that were defending QR.
Those were all the things you did. No amount of blame shifting or straw man arguments are going to change that. You admitted to it here >>12227, >>12230, >>12232 where you admit to both comments that were from two different ID's one of which was the baker.
You're like as ex who just won't stop texting. Not very thug life. Gotta keep up appearance though (pic related)
We had no beef until he started dual-boxing to shill for Endchan along with the raid last night.
Let me make something clear,crystal clear.I don't care about any of your personalities, your egos, or your motives. I will defend /QR/ - Q - and the Anons all day everyday with all of my abilities. I don't hide who I am. If you are helping the cause you're my ally. If you are trying to hurt it, or especially hurt the less in-the-know anons by doing things like sending them somewhere comped you are not.
> I don't care about any of your personalities, your egos, or your motives
Pertains to no one in particular.
> posts ridiculous bs
Who exactly are you speaking to?
>YOUR FUCKING ACCUSATIONS TO BEGIN WITH
You seem to not understand the difference between presenting an accusation and presenting evidence. It isn't an accusation when it's proven.
You were dual-boxing (admitted) and lining up against anons that were fighting against the endchan raid (screenshots shown)
You want me to prove you own 2 computers, that's your fall back.
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Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
Keep going.
> i just don't see it. how can you prove someone else is running two UID's?
> i DID NOT CALL YOU RAINMAN i SAID YOU WERE ACTING LIKE THEM.
> I said you called me fag boi and told me to neck myself
> I said you called me fag boi and told me to neck myself
>>I said you called me fag boi and told me to neck myself.
>exactly. because you were BEING ONE.
Fag boi comment - ID 5b9a87 (Baker)
Neck yourself - ID 758382
He admitted to both. End of story. The "og" bake in question had links to the outside boards. Next would be to push to add thewarroomlink to dough which had endchan links and anons telling other anons to meet there to chat.
>Just found out i'm owner of /qrb/ on endchan.
Can't imagine why you'd be defending his, total mystery.
> Listing rhetorical devices used in arguments is not providing evidence of wrong-doing
You're working extremely hard to ignore the fact that up bread heplainlyadmit to posting both the neck yourself and fag boi comment which came from 2 separate IDs one being the baker. His fall back is hurr durr I don't own two computers as if cell phones with VPNs and TOR don't exist.
I know your games, you'll be pushing for a consensus to haveWARROOMstickied in a no time and trying to divert anons to endchan.
>It's also obvious who this is.
Rusty Confirms he can't see IP-hopping
>unless you IP hop and I cannot follow that, it appears as a new unique poster with a new IP hash
dipshit thanks him
>Thanks for the confirm.
2 posts later
>why would bakers spend so much time to post bs in the bread, instead of actually helping anons with baking notables in the general breads?
>I can see that you try to shitpost as much as possible to hide my posts, bc you are kind of surprised that an anon made his way here.
Hey hey, you guys do you, when you make your push to get anons on Endchan I'm got all the screenshots.
>but you weren't attacking the endchan stuff, you asked about the research threads…
The research threads were pushed for in the dough by the same people that were pushing the endchan links in WR. Their motives were clear.
>YOU admitted to postingWHY THE FUCKjust to get anons mad.
>
>that's a thousand times worse.
Endchan shills pulling a raid aren't anons, they're shills, no matter how many times you try to shift blame it doesn't change that.
Endchan is not a boogeyman
>that's the shill narrative that they jumped on, though.
>i just loaded some on endchan and they are much faster
>https://endchan.net/qrbunker/res/5695.html#q5730
>could you post a vid on the other board, endchan and then link it over?
>when i go to endchan, it reminds me of what posting and baking used to be like here
>–i dealt with war room pressures plenty bc of endchan
>- Removed Endchan WarRoom Ops, they're not from our WarRoom
>i tried to get him not to do it bc it's different than in /qr/ and we had a new baker on endchan
> Endchan anons know but maybe not everyone here does.
>This was all a ploy to push anons to ENDchan.
>They wanted a warroom thread so they could post links to endchan and direct anons there
>yes sgrvl would like endchan to be the hub.
>endchan a honeypot
>
>i think it's just sgrvl, he is not entirely "there" mentally. not a hypothesis. he can be both paranoid and grandiose.
> anons on endchan got suspicious when they saw he had a different tripcode for each each function
>Don't agree, I am BO of the other endchan q board
>And, if Endchan faggots start on bakers again, ever, there’ll be war
>There’ll be no more encroachment on the dough or deleting QR material from the dough to get more room for endchan ops
>Why would the endchan crew complain about the dough being changed when it was them who changed it?
>Just found out i'm owner of /qrb/ on endchan.
>trying to follow your argument, not clear to me that anybody is shilling for endchan
>also the idea that endchan qanonresearch is a honeypot – sgrvl not really competent enough for that kind of op, imo.
>so, this guy. dude didn't read a thing i wrote, and is still convinced he got it all figured out.
>no pause, no introspection, nothing.
>just posting and fuming, posting and fuming.
Pics Related.
>>not clear to me that anybody is shilling for endchan
>exactly, but that's the shill narrative that got slipped in.
pics related, and your teammate their is a board owner at endchan, can't imagine why he'd agree.
>>Endchan is not a boogeyman
>that's the shill narrative that they jumped on, though.
Anons fighting against the raid from endchan are apparantly theREALshills. Got it.
ENDCHAN ISN"T A HONEYPOT
Cool, who ownsEndchan?
Who are the Admins?
Where are the servers located?
Why is their registrar prohibited from being viewed?
Why doesGOOGLErefuse to link to 4chan, 8chan, 8kun, but has a link directly toENDCHANon page 1 of the search.
IKNOWwho owns 8kun.
Endchan /QResearch/ popped up as soon as 8chan went down and it was inorganically shilled all over /pol/ immediately and obviously. Just another coincidence I guess.