>>13568

Good evening, Teach

Internet up and down tonite, better post while i can. baking class thread also, if possible.

>>13566, >>13567 How to Control-F on androids & IOS devices

added to baker dough, thx friend.

>>13568 (and everyone else)

>FAQs & baking traditions/rules of thumb

Definitely playing with both, espec the latter, but it's slow bc organic, not formulated top-down but emerging out of discussions here and in baker's meta.

Also dislike rules unless needed for scrapers, etc. Big dif between "rules" and "rules of thumb," bc the latter are designed to describe generally agreed upon conventions that have stood the test of time. That's what makes them organic.

>shills take advantage of any holes in the system

precisely. the aim is both to give new bakers guidelines and to support bakers who find themselves in novel situations where unusual baker decisions would otherwise give shills a leg up.

>Skim effect

Yes online environments require short, pithy info "blurbs." The challenge is that these can easily turn into oversimplifications. But we'll get 'er down, just takes time, thought and feedback. Will take longer than two weeks, tho. I'm fast but not that fast.

Attached is the FAQs and Baking traditions for new page 2. Stuff on current page 2 and 3 will go into an index, if i can manage it, otherwise will become a link (more later).

Baking traditions section is an experiment, good if it works but only if bakers like it and think it's an asset, otherwise we can just go with FAQs

see attached

>>13588

FAQs = short blurbs that give basic links, facts, info.

'Baking Traditions = the art of baking, a little history, more detailed info on handoff protocols, different kinds of bakes, handling notables, dealing with shills, effective comms, dough checking, etc.

Baking FAQs

Four parts of baking (setup, dough post, collecting notables, baking)

Notables basics: quick tips, when to post, final list

Do I need to use a text editor?

What to do when Q posts

How to ghost a bread

Ways to order notables (up vs down)

Handoffs & notifications

How to pick up a ghost bake

"Body too long": what is it and how to handle?

Taking on a late bake (@600 plus)

Baking anonymous or with an ID

What to do if a shill is baking

What equipment is needed to bake?

Making room for new notables & Q drops

How to bake in TOR

Notables vs global notables

What is pastebin and how to use it

Timing the bake

Dealing with shills

How to report bad bread numbers, etc.

How to report CP

Handling end of bread questions

Formatting notable buns

What to check before & after the bake

Slow vs fast breads

Overcoming baking terrors: laggy breds, Ddos, etc.

Baking Traditions

What bakers do

A short history of baking

Firm vs flexible rules

Firm rules & when they're needed [scraper reqt's]

Handoffs in detail

Notables: the movie [more advanced stuff]

Comms with anons

Dealing with shills & shill bakers

Breads with more than one baker

Checking the dough & making repairs

Dealing with the unexpected

10 most common baking mistakes

Index of Q & As and baking tips

Re: FJ takeover bid

>>13605

yes you were very new. And working closely with mv, who thought he could outsmart FJ; he said as much to 8bit. But FJ was and is BO, so he held all the cards - and played them on July 11. CAP 1.

Once he thought he'd won, he posted this gem. CAP 2.

The bakers who went to QRB, either right away or later, were the ones who outright refused to bake with FJ's new dough. We stayed and sniped instead, trying to get in a bake with the traditional dough. And posted the dough information that FJ had deleted from the dough, espec. notables. Along with messages objecting to the new fake dough and FJ's crappy notables thread. But he either had 24-hr watchers or some automated script that immediately locked our new breads. The sniping was still useful in that those breads couldn't be immediately removed so anyone logging on to the catalog would see how mgmt was deleting the legit breads for at least a few hours.

CAP 3.

Even after Q said 'revert', FJ remained uncooperative, tried to cause trouble for bakers like me when they tried to help during the often chaotic night shifts. In this example, his shill baker ignored notables from note-taker and did an extra early e-bake to screw things up.

CAP 4.

>>13603

Included this short acct showing just a few of the events leading up to the FJ takeover, the ones that involved me directly but which are emblematic of how he operated. Notice what name he uses to insult me? Thought you would find that of interest.

CAP 5.

>>13615

A coupla things to add:

1. the edit made was to get rid of an unfortunate typo in the title (takeover 'big' takeover bid) bc this stuff may get referenced at some point to provide some board history.

1. Purpose is to set the record straight about July 2019 takeover from one anon's pov. It's not to stir up bad feelz about board mgmt at the present time. Not necessary or desirable, we got other fish to fry.

>>13607

>I'm almost certain that 8ch's shutdown was precipitated by the failure of the 5th column to gain control of the board during the Notables Creek power grab.

Interdasting, would love to know.

>Difficult to fully asses the total damage resulting from FJ/BV faggotry.

CAPP.

>>13621

Schism was caused by FJ, not anons or bakers. Once he dictated the composition of the new dough, bakers were faced with a tough choice: accept it and continue to bake or reject it and protest (by trying to seize back the dough or adding notables back to FJ dough). So yes, there were hard feelings from some anons around that choice for a while. Just so you know, although I was in the "rejector" group, neither was I against the bakers who stayed. Never. When Slighty Stupid stove baker got blasted for "staying", we talked as friends about tough choices. To me, any baker still on the board on July 10 has my lasting respect and admiration.

>>13623

There is always time. I gotta get off the screen for a while, too, before class today. Glad to talk later.

>>13628

good to know some of the behind-the-scenes intrigue. I know there was at least one BV who was pretty malicious because he was very aggressive when i was baking, threw them outta the kitchen at tail end of bread. The BV who used to 'vet' late night bakers seemed quite civil prior to 8bit's leaving.

>Did FJ act out any time after Q called him out

yes - look at the date on >>13615, CAP 4 -

3 days prior to deplatforming.

There's more but that will serve. I don't hate the guy but he does not exactly inspire confidence.

>>13629

(((them))) meaning him and FJ, when they were baiting me after 650.

link to class #14

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