Good evening all, thanks for coming
It's good to see you all.
Good evening gyb, thanks for the great thread, dough and welcome.
Welcome anon, thanks for coming. Good to see you.
Hey doc, all gud?
Hey kb, good to see ya.
Howdy gb. You're really getting expert level on the derps.
Welcome To Baking Class
Thanks for coming everybody, and if you're a new baker, for stepping up to help the kitchen. Respect.
The class is informal and relaxed. Feel free to ask questions, shout out if or when you're stuck / need some help and remember, there are no dumb questions, ever. There's usually plenty of flour flying around so feel free to mess up. It's how we learn.
One of our bakers usually instructs (m'self today), while GYB facilitates the Q&A and discussions. Regular bakers are also usually in-thread, dropping in when they can, helping to answer the Q&As.
So….. feel free to ask any questions about anything regarding baking, even if you're not learing to bake today.
We are all here dedicating our time to teach you and pass on our knowledge to you, new bakers. We want to help you in whichever way we can. Please give us feedback and let us know how we can.
Once you decide you're ready to bake, we will all continue to help you, so don't feel you'll be out on your own in the wild west.
Thank you bakers, thank you BO.
Here's what we'll be doing this evening…
For anyone who wants to learn, hit me up and I'll post the teaching materials.
For anyone who has any questions about anything specific, please fire away and we'll do our best to answer.
As GYB said at the start, we thought we'd have a brainstorm this evening to come up with a list of tips for new bakers, or "10 most common mistakes by new bakers and how to avoid them".
GYB, you've got a list of what we have already, yes? How about we start with discussing those and adding any more?
Looks good. I think we said we'd change it to curly quotes?
KB mentioned about being aware that GMTAnon drops a new link to updated material, then comms anon drops another link to the archived version - both to be added to the dough
Also from the other night…
Omitting the necessary colon (:) after the bread number. (If omitted, some user JS and aggregator sites can't find the bread)
I don't know if it's a shill baker tactic, but it's definitely something new bakers don't know about. I spoke to 2 this past week and they'd no idea they were getting it wrong, were really miffed at why no one would hand off to them.
I handed off to one (Franklyn baker), and they did well. Baked another twice with me spotting them.
So yes, I think it's something we're missing.
Now yer talkin
Since when have you seen this paste doc, b/c that baker set it up on mon/tues just when I was with them.
They baked that night, all good, then the next, all good as well. I stayed with them as backup so they could get their paste populated with some bakes.
They were miffed that their handoff offers had been ignored for weeks they said. I said it was prolly b/c they were offering a handoff by posting the baker’s dough link and they said ahhh.. I get it, so I’ll go and make a pastebin.
I showed them how to verify which they didn’t know either.
I think that’s our bottleneck KB.
We’ll have to teach this more, even although we do already include it.
Otherwise help bakers who offer to understand.
We’re in what, week 22 of classes and had so many coming through to learn, but none are baking. There’s something really wrong I’m thinking, with the materials or something idk.
Right, and had you asked for a handoff?
Thanks gb, yes was me
It is hard to look and fix when you’re baking a busy shift. Hard to keep an eye on everything as it is. Man..
Idk then. Baker’s been sweet with me, happy to take advice and responsive.
I offered handoff early in the week and someone offered to take it. I didn’t know who as they offered with my dough post link.
I said to myself ok, let’s see what’s gonna happen there, what’s this shill gonna do, and obviously I stuck around to see, but they turned out to be a good baker.
It was Franklyn.
So idk…
That was being done until endchan fags started doing fly by dough insertions for their shit anon. We weren’t tight like now until around 6 weeks ago when that started.
Also, shills we’re taking the bread at graveyard leaving a huge mess for the morning bakers to fix.
Always looking for more cleaners if you want to ever step up anon.
That could be it GB. Even after all the training in the world, you gotta put yourself up there, and that’s hard hard.
And yeah, its meds are so not working.
Thanks a million, I’ll have a think and pass to ya. Appreciate it!
Idk about leaf. Franklyn has a way to go to learn about handoff protocol I agree, and I spoke to him today about what was wrong this morning and that hijacking wasn’t the answer.
I vouched for him to WnB, and so he possibly thought he’d the handoff.
With the history we have since pol, and with the problems pamphlet and fastjack (when he was breadbox), made at cbts through trip flagging and pushing for bakers to tripfag and namefag, I understand why anons are wary about us getting into that again, as I am. It didn’t go well if you recall, and we moved boards because of the divide it caused between the two groups - the tripfagging bakers and anons. The TF’s were left behind to their board on The Storm (Q didn’t tell us to go there even though it was alll set up as a backup), and everyone moved on anon to 8bits qresearch.
And so, I think we should bear that all in mind.
I didn’t see you saying that. I did see you offer a handoff and Franklyn offering to take it. I said I’d been spotting him for the last 3 nights and he was sweet.
I certainly didn’t support him doing what he did, and you’ll see that in the bread he made. I supported you.
I don’t think it’s leaf WnB. I may be completely wrong but I’ve worked with him for oh, around 9 hours this week, backing him up and helping him start baking, and knowing leaf very, very well for a long time, I would eat my shoes if it was him. I say no way.
I remember BB, pamphlet, leaf, W&W leaving and setting up The Storm, b/c they wanted to have a board with trips. It was Barach who turned all tripcodes off, including Q’s, and Q said to everyone to move boards.
He posted once on The Storm before saying that. Q also said aboit The Storm that ‘we did t like what we saw’.
That was when pamphlet left, after being BTFO by Q.
I’m down with however you want to do stuff KB, just want to also give history on what happened before with tripcodes, so that bakes and anons know and can decide what they want for themselves.
Also, so the bakes who don’t know this history understand why some anons will push back against it, amd namefaging.
That’s very true. No need for that I know.
What made you think it was leafy?
Here’s what I saw - you asking for handoff and a baker, Franklyn posting the dough in his logged in pastebin.
Just seeing that quickly I vouched for him, wanted to say to you that I’d been spotting him as any of us would say to each other.
True that he just said ‘firmed’, and that’s not on, but to cut some slack for a new baker…
Interested in why you think it’s leaf though. Doc said leaf had been messing with you guys in day shift.
Just to be clear, that’s all I saw, I vouched for him to you then left, looked back and he was baking, thought you’d handed off to him.
If you look at his thread you’ll see me telling him what he did wasn’t on, at all.
Don’t want you thinking I supported him, because that’s incorrect. I supported protocol.
I know you do WnB and, that's how I know you. I respect you and wouldn't want to upset you. I saw what happened after I vouched for him and I'm sorry that happened. That's why I also came back into your bread and said sorry in there, as well.
Thanks gb, and well, it was an experiment, and ever evolving. Some incredibly positive things have come of it, thanks to you all, even if the original objective hasn't yielded as much as was set out to.
A new note-taker? Noice!
It's still all really good.
Ain't stronK
Das awesome
Truth.
So the list we set out to make is the same one we all made in 2 mins on the general the other night.
Perfect
Got ya
Yep, lookin' good. Thanks gyb.
Nice, and saved for future use. ty
Good points.
Haven't done that m'self but it makes sense in slower breads. Even for faster ones. I've always make sure to include the word 'notables', even if I'd rather change it up to 'notes' sometimes, so that with a quick CtrlF anyone will find them.
I like how you do it KB, as baker said, keeps it all really clean and really clear.
Anonbin is so fast, it's lightning
Didn't realize you'd been having such a hard shill of it bro. That's bad. The board seems to almost stop on your shift a lot of the time. Maybe it's when CM's working on it, or attacks? We don't know, he doesn't say. But yeah, I've been baking super early also.
Neat. So with the ? on the end it updates auto?
Understood. Invaluable to have this workaround though. It can get a bit hairy when baking and it's not updating. I've been switching to Tor when that's been happening, so I'll be happy to try this. Thanks.
And here was me thinking baker attacks were at an all time low, I guess just on the shift's I'm on/working. Q's been posting during the day for a long while now. Maybe it's that? I also thought that may be why the board almost goes down every afternoon.
Laffin'
Kudos, seadog
>someone even put that in notables a few days ago and then when I said WETF is this doing in the bun said "they forced me too"
Can you say more about what happened here?
>it's like rainman-mix it up a bit and try to fool us but no.
Kekekek so true. Impossible to hide that.
It means more now. kek
You know, I could work it so that I came on earlier if that would help, from 5 or 6, whatever you wanted. Maybe there'd be someone willing to take from around 9 - 12. Because that's a long-ass shift you're doing. I know you love it, but, we all need some relief, even for a while.
Thanks gy. That's just bizarre…
I want em back as well bro.
Understand, and appreciate knowing what's been going on. So I'll re-arrange best I can to get on earlier when possible. I'll throw you a bin right away so you know it's me right off the bat, then you can handoff when you feel like it any time. Sucks that you get this grief at the end of a long shift, so if we can manage something for that time, sweet.
Throw em off.