hell oes
haven't had time to keep up last few days.
still pretty much same situation over at qr?
great work summarizing, thanks.
a)fixbred
while i don't disagree with your description, at the minimum, it just means having a running working bread, not dueling spam battles…
and those battles, power struggles brought on by the shilling/bake war/OSS/reasons are in my mind more what is meant by
b) tidy up
since the bread problems are the symptom, and the warring the cause.
since the shilling is relentless, even if anons can be just as stubborn, that's still just an impasse.
we're at an unfortunate necessity to discuss difficult questions of management - and the new board provides an interesting experiment in that regard, because a new, assumedly authoritarian approach is taken, whereas apparently the fully open principle remains active on qr, as only in most extreme/illegal cases does mgmt intervene.
Thing is, i get it, normally i'm with the all open too: for principle, but also because moderation changes the dynamic (basically platform/publisher, same as for social media): if any shill can post what they want on board, then we can't be blamed for the content. Of course we are anyway, but that's still another question.
BUT, after years in this, it seems that there can be appeal to one principle, that parallels Q recommendations of thinking for oneself, and recognizing how vital that is to grasping the finer points of the crumbs as well : the obvious.
What is obvious cannot always easily be proven, if at all. But to a living human mind, the obvious is obvious.
In our situation, to me at least it is obvious that ebot is a nuisance, and so are plenty other less glaring shills. If i were to be moderator, i think i could work with a principle of separation of content and method/quantity: basically shiposting vs spam.
Shiposting: pretty much anything goes, have at it.
Spam: now here's where it gets trickier. But to take an easy example, those fucking redhead from behind 5pics posts that became sigils or something… never figured quite what's going on there, but damn, i'd just blast that so fast.
Sure, they'll hop on with another IP, but good, make em use it. That's what having many BVs is all about, isn't it?
anyway.
this is still just musings about how to exert a moderation authority with transparency, and even more vitally: legitimacy.
haven't even really touched on the fact that the very discrete mgmt of qr has not done much lately to increase my confidence in them, regretfully…
i get they wish to keep at least an appearance of neutrality, but there's a lot they could do without directly "taking sides"..
>That's aflb I believe.
indeed, it's usually just a bot but i've seen aflb use the sigil versions
>if there is indeed a bread war, who would the warring factions be?
>All the way thru i see just one main actor: OSS
>not two separate groups with, say, different visions of the kitchen or something like that
yup, i agree. but part of its action/nuisance is precisely the multiple IDs/names/personas deployed, to create "enough" of a fog of war to claim war. It's hard to imagine discerning minds still falling for it at this point, but, i dunno…
>nutshell
well, as i said, midnightriders provides a de facto experiment. BO came in to nuke OSS who was just stirring shit.
Transparency is somewhat embedded in the kun architecture, as mod actions are logged and can be tracked by anons, even if they can't see content deleted after the fact, unless having an open thread somewhere.
and the legitimacy, well, anons coming over to MR know about the whole dumpsterfire, so they can understand trying a different approach.
and as a leap of faith, come to think of it, i was going to say it's not much more, but it might even be less of a leap of faith than the choiceless "faith" we have to have in FJ to run QR best he can…
it also pretty much worked in the 8bit era, delete/VPNs fights with shills… so, not only can it be done, there is precedent for qresearch
> de facto experiment
oh, i'm seeing this as a good thing - great, even. sorry if unclear.
the forcing anons there spin is indeed dumb, it just exists, as does qr.
agree with shills gonna shill, of course
ok, but what you don't seem to get is that even if you're just one person, then you must realize YOU ARE AS BAD AS MULTIPLE BOTS HOLYFUCKS SAKE how could you be anon and concerned for the board and mission and cause n all that and be such a spamming, redtexting, lying waste of energy?
qresear.ch, see your posts. you're all over the last month, at least.
that time you blamed comms for deleting the maps YOU took out was particularly rich
>sauce
oh look at you mastering anon lingo, how impressive
>gaslight
projection, always¸, and the female kind, even
your graphics are pure obfuscation.
want sauce?
i'll play
>>40118 commsmeta
>got me a Division shill trying hard today:
>
>UK #23 >>11272778
>you got caught fucking with the breads, just like you do here,
> you're "boatfag" from the /comms/ faggot bakers,
> you took our beloved graphics away, and laughed about it,
>graphics that were started within days of Q's first posts, told us to do it, and you tried to trash them,
>you failed faggot, and you failing to trash this bread too
> I removed the /comms/ links from the dough and then copied over every single file one by one to /qr/ and asked the bread be stickied.
=
> making shit up.
projecting, again.
there isn't a crowd to fool here, there's no need for this.
i know.
you did such a SHIT job pasting over the maps after your entire empire crumbled under anon rage that you WOKE UP GMT ANON FROM THE UNDEAD
thanks for that, you disgusting permanent opposite of truth
> avoid any bread
not true, posted in plenty of them
>Still waiting for your sauce
shit boye, you're lying right here in this thread then, you just found it
go on say
<gaslight
<sauce
again
i know you will
Poe's Law applies, OSS.
you are a shill.
walk like a fuck, talk like a fuck.
you are named with the other shills because you are one of them.
failure to recognize this, only proves it further.
it is beyond obvious.
indeed! huzzah!
> you trying to gaslight me
is any anon even attempting to provide accurate testimony, that can be verified by… OTHER ANONS who were right there as well. and others. and others.
> provide some evidence that I have ever done anything subversive.
again, the more you intervene, the more you provide it yourself
>That's when you took out all the comms links wo/thinking of the consequences. Including GMTanons's.
>Tactical error, OSS
this one, OSS. this one alone ruins all your graphics and copypastas.
not only how it happened, but how quickly you lied about it right after, and still do.
ALL OF IT is your sauce.
ALL OF IT is you proving day after day your fuckery.
thanks, sorry if taking the bait helped sidetrack the conversation.
tried to engage OSS, but it's just by default a pure cunt, it's hopeless.
cheers
>who will only use anything written here in next edition of "MUH GRAPHICS."
KEK
you called it
>>>/qresearch/11350908
>gets none
so that's how the gaslighting manual goes, you just always move forward even when it's right there in the same thread?
OSS came in throwing insults. I tried engaging as an equal, asked questions, but you know the creature, it escalated.
it also fed the slide that i don't really engage with OSS on the QR threads, as it's just giving it what it wants and keeping the untidy going, so since she popped over here, might as well give it a chance to speak its mind.
not impressed.