Anonymous ID: 59d894 Baking Seminar #38 Oct. 27, 2020, 8:17 p.m. No.40369   🗄️.is 🔗kun

LIVE Baking Seminar

 

10/29/2020

 

We in here

 

Welcome To LIVE Baking Classes in the Q Research Utility Kitchen

 

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

 

We are the bakers who provide the breads for those anons who post Qresearch's open-sourced information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. We do battle in the sphere of baking ideas and baking ideas only. We neither need nor condone the use of force in our work here.

 

 

=VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS=

=SEMPER FIDELIS=

=WWG1WGA=

 

INTRO TO BAKING

Qresearch is a 24/7 beehive of activity where anons post their diggs, memes and prayers.

For this to happen requires ''bakers''–which is why they have been called "the core of this board."

Bakers perform several key functions:

* Set the tone for each bread via their choice of bread title and /comms/ with posters.

* Post notables for each bread.

* Bake breads (transition the board from one thread to the next).

* Knead the dough (keeping the resource pages clean, tidy, and up-to-date).

When all goes well, baking is a fun & exciting opportunity to serve. When things get wonky and shills attack–bakers carry on anyway.

Shadilay, fellow bakers!

 

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General Announcements

* Baking Class in /comms/ every Thursday @7pm ET: practice baking, Q&A, all are welcome

* Baking class plan (so any baker can teach) >>11969, https://pastebin.com/gqfunWCR

* How to bake a baking seminar dough >>14289

* Too many threads problem - bakers be(a)ware >>15895

* Q-bin links qanonbin.com (vanwa), www2qanonbin.com (bitmitigate)

* Midnight Riders Board NEW https://8kun.top/midnightriders/catalog.html

 

Past Class links & archives

Links: >>6125 #1, >>6368 #2, >>6885 #3, >>7185 #4 , >>7568 #5, >>8274 #6, >>8872 #7, >>9320 #8, >>9787 #9, >>10510 #10, >>11086 #11, #12 >>11733, #13 >>13041, #14 >>13590, #15 >>14290, #16 >>14873, #17 >>15341, #18 >>15918, #19 >>16885, #20 >>17719, #21 >>18289, #22 >>18935, #23 >>19692, #24 >>20544, #25 >>21322, #26 >>21883, #27 >>22537, #28 >>23071, #29 >>23470, #30 >>24025, #31 >>24695, #32 >>25718, #33 >>27149

 

Archives: Classes #1 - #20: >>18934, #21 http://archive.vn/wip/NH1Ss, #22 http://archive.vn/olnuG, #23 http://archive.vn/enwhP, #24 https://8kun.top/comms/res/20544.html, #25 http://archive.vn/wip/AWhVb, #26 http://archive.vn/wip/3oSig, #27 https://archive.vn/wip/X39j1, #28 https://archive.vn/fBJjQ, #29 https://archive.vn/wip/kwjiX, #30 https://archive.vn/wip/rwdjs, #31 https://archive.vn/wip/NrROI, #32 https://archive.vn/wip/v9PuU

 

Step-by-Step Baking Instructions

>>17783 STEP 0 - Preparation

>>17797 STEP 1 - Find the Current Dough

>>17803 STEP 2 - Copy the Current Dough

>>17807 STEP 3 - Paste The Dough Into Text Editor ( >>17810 dough in Q-bin)

>>17815 STEP 3a - Trim The Notables Section

>>17822 STEP 3b - Make space for your New Notables

>>17831 STEP 4 - Create A New Thread

>>17837 STEP 5 - Enter Thread Info And Post Thread

>>17845 STEP 6 - Enter the Rest of the Dough

>>17863 STEP 7 - Make A New Pastebin & Make The Dough Post ( >>17868, >>17871, >>17875 Q-bin updates)

>>17876 STEP 8 - Post Your New Thread Link

 

Baking Overview & Extras

>>17777 Overview

>>17884 Linking between Boards

>>17894 Timing

>>14523 Baker's Tools Lite

>>26068 How to Baker When Q Posts UPDATE >>26089, >>26110, >>26124, >>26146, >>26165, >>2617o

>>23326 Baking from the Index

 

E-BAKE Instructions

>>9252, >>10776

 

New Baker Checklist

>>31574 Eight steps plus a summary

 

Updated Notables Module

>>24091 Updated notables module (intro)

>>24147 Notables overview/baker's considerations

>>24165 Notables overview/baker's considerations

>>24287 Types of possible notables

>>24301 What makes a perfect notable?

>>24314 How to log notables in your dough

>>24319 When to post notables updates in-thread

>>24394 Recap & question time

 

Handoffs workshop

>>28909 Four steps in a handoff and how to pickup a ghost bake

 

Find Q drops here:

QAnon.pub - qresear.ch/q-posts - QAlerts.pub - operationQ.pub - QAgg.news - QPosts.online - qanon.news/Q - 8kun.top/qresearch/qposts.html

Backups: qntmpkts.keybase.pub - QAlerts.app - QAlerts.net - douknowq.com/134295/Q-Anon-Pub.htm - we-go-all.net/q.html - douknowq.com/134295/Q-Anon-Pub.htm

Anonymous ID: 59d894 Oct. 27, 2020, 8:18 p.m. No.40370   🗄️.is 🔗kun

BAKING RESOURCES

 

Baker's grab bag

* Baker's Tools app (Version 0.7.2) Baker Tools v0.7.2: >>9584, >>9597, >>9601 https://pastebin.com/L1p6iRzZ

* Baker's Tools Lite (stripped down, good for baking) >>14523, https://pastebin.com/pUVCTeCG

* NEW Updated Baker's Tools Lite (q.js) >>21036, https://github.com/learnedtocode/qjs

* Try Atom as a text editor for Macs >>6925, >>6934, >>7055, >>7070

* Meme-making app kek.gg >>8771

* Crazy Bakes: wonky board, lags, baking from Index, "flood detected", dup breads >>9960

* How's your mouse for baking? >>10617

* Font used for baking school slides >>10642, https://www.dafontfree.net/find.php?q=impact

* Quik Pic bake instructions >>7549

* Original baking video >>7076 (shows how to make room for new notables)

* Overcoming paywalls >>10844

* Pastebin.com problems & alternatives >>11645, >>11609, >>11619, >>11620, >>11627, >>11640

* How to Control-F on androids & IOS devices >>13566, >>13567

* How to do a keyword search when /qresearch/ is down >>13696

* Past bread archive for /qresearch/: https://qanon.news/Archives

 

Dealing with notables

* Note-taking roles: baker, note collector, helper anon, posters >>14921

* Ten Baker Tips for Notables >>8177

* Bakers on what they look for in notables >>8351, >>8315, >>8698

* Muh Collector "how to" on notables >>9006, >>9009

* Anon tips for better notables >>>/qrb/41937, https://pastebin.com/yq7wQyvn

* Long notables; Asking anons to state main point >>13633, >>8237

* Asking anons to state the main point

* Advanced Google searching protocols https://pastebin.com/raw/JuK0xUDb

  • 5 kinds of sauce (evidence) that make a notable noteworthy >>9655

 

Free image/video screenshots, download, production tools

* https://twittervideodownloader.com/ NEW

* Image screenshots PrtSc/snipping tool + MS-Paint https://youtu.be/KvXxCE1gxOE

* 8kun video limits (~16mg) >>8760

* Bandicam Screen Recorder >>8759, >>8762 (also: OBS, Kdenlive, Audacity)

* YouTube & Twitter (downloads plus cutting scenes from YT) >>14306

* Video downloaders: >>14237, https://www.downloadhelper.net/ ; Firefox/Opera: - https://technologyto.com/extractor.html

* VLC Player >>8714, >>8715, >>8766

* Windows Movie Maker for Win 10 >>8712

* NVidia cards (can screen-capture vids) >>8785

* Forensically (forensics magnifier) https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#forensic-magnifier

* ShotCut NLE (open source cross platform video editor) https://shotcut.org/

* MFFmpeg (decodes & plays any format) https://ffmpeg.org/

* Natron (cross-platform video compositor) https://natrongithub.github.io/

* Handbrake (good for transcoding) https://handbrake.fr/

* GIMP & GMIC (image editing) http://gmic.eu/gimp.shtml

~~* Invidio (copies YT vids, restricted or not, no ads or signup)~~ >8792

DO NOT USE! apparently malware now

* Avidemux.org, VideoSmaller.Com (apps for making large files smaller) >>18286

* Free Convert ((reduces file size w/good quality) https://www.freeconvert.com/video-compressor/download

  • NEW: FFmpeg (record, convert and stream audio/video): https://ffmpeg.org/

 

Baker tips IRL

>>8829 Baker's Tips - Read me first

>>6331 #01 - Ghosting a bred

>>6331 #02 - Baker changes

>>6378 #03 - TOR baking

>>6651 #04 - Defeating shills with facts & humor

>>7339 #05 - Announce you're baking (#11 too)

>>6892 #06 - Baking/note-taking protocols

>>7181 #07 - Use RED TEXT and BOLD in handoffs

>>7363 #08 - Try to notice when a cat is baking

>>13038 #09 - Respecting other bakers' notables

>>8174 #10 - Make sure to copypasta the whole page

>>8803 #11 - Announce you're taking responsibility

>>8822 #12 - Embed baker changes to provide more info

>>8824 #13 - Watch out for unknown bakers bearing gifts

>>8825 #14 - Use named pastebins to defeat shill complaints

>>8826 #15 - Responding to shills trying to suck up baker's time

>>8827 #16 - Be aware of muh joos bakers

>>8828 #17 - All bakers screw up

>>10445 #18 - Just do it--bake!

>>9590 #19 - Don't be afraid to bake

>>10789 #20 - Post notes early so changes can be made

>>10791 #21 - No /comms/ creates misunderstandings

>>10792 #22 - Defeat shills with humor

>>14835 #23 - Keep notables [from different bakers] separate

>>14836 #24 - Make sure to ask for Handoff Confirmed

>>14801 #25 - Don't fuck with the wrong baker [take a look - funny]

>>15894 #26 - Ignore end-of-bread antics

Anonymous ID: 59d894 Oct. 27, 2020, 8:18 p.m. No.40371   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Baker stories, discussions & workshops

>>10114 How shills attack bakers - example

>>10787 Picking up a mid-bread bake - LIVE example

>>10710 Why do you bake? >>10729, >>10731, >>10732, >>10744

>>14837 Forensic baking (Mini-study: who's been messing with the dough??)

>>14114 Editing PB notables, ok or not? Baker discussion >>14227, >>14248, >>14265

>>14943 What notables draw your interest and why, baker? >>14947, >>14968, >>14975, >>14983

>>15908 HOW-TO notables (Class #16) w/baker comments >>15032

>>17219, >>17235, >>17241, >>17242, >>17245 Bakers on ghosting

>>17353, >>17362 How to update dough on a phone (<< first two posts, dialog continues….)

>>19732 Ten common "tells" that out new bakers

>>22600 Bakers on SHILLS >>22601, >>22612, >>22613, >>22617, >>22653, >>22643, >>22646, >>22855

>>22537 Funny SHILL memes in Bread #27….scroll thru to enjoy & steal.

>>24230 Use Baker's Tools or Baker's Tools Lite?

>>24958 Top Three Baking Tips >>24970, >>24971, >>24975, >>24984

>>25450, >>25452, >>25453 Baker on handoffs

>>23070 Baker verification mini-seminar, class #23

>>40368 Da Dough workshop NEW

 

Baking FAQs

>>20547 Generally

>>22535 The Dough

>>22535 Practice Baking

>>22535 Qanonbin.com NEW

>>20549 Notables

>>20549 Timing Issues

>>20550 Handoffs & baker comms

>>20551 Making Reports, Global Reports

>>20551 Baking

>>20551 Baking Error Messages

>>20552 Common Mistakes

>>20552 Q Bakes, Other Fast Bake

>>20552 Dealing with Shills

Anonymous ID: 59d894 Oct. 27, 2020, 8:29 p.m. No.40372   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0373 >>0499 >>0503 >>0557 >>0725

dough:

https://qanonbin.com/paste/aMV6bxpkj

 

Welcome

This week:

Continuation of last week's discussion about Q's drop:

PLEASE FIX THE BREAD AND TIDY UP THE SHIP. -Q

 

Last week, the focus was on looking at the problem, determining how it started, and who the players are. This week, we'll look at

  • where we're at now

  • what's changed, what hasn't

  • best way to support Q's work going forward

 

All anons and bakers welcome

Bring yer Qs and comments.

o7

 

no shilling, spamming or personal attacks

Shills - you know the drill, kek.

Anonymous ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 3:58 p.m. No.40495   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0496

We are at a CRITICAL TIME right now

Tensions are high.

Shill activity on the board is throught the roof.

And there are currently many problems with dup bakes, stolen breads and messed-up doughs.

 

Shills are constantly SPAMMING out the message in /qr/ that it is the traditional bakers who are trying to screw over /qr/.

 

This is absolutely false.

The problems there have been going on since early September - although they have gotten worse after most traditional bakers stood down from baking after multiple efforts to recover the dough, find 'lost' notables and generally clean things up did not work (would get reversed within a few breds).

 

If any anons have questions, just ask. Bakers are here to answer them. Also share your general concerns. It's time all patriot anons came together to figure out a solution to these problems.

o7

Anonymous ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 3:59 p.m. No.40496   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40495

For anyone who wants to learn how to bake:

You can ask questions anytime.

Usually there are bakers here after class as well if you need practice bakes checked or a walk thru on how to bake.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:26 p.m. No.40533   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0537

I was on /qr/ last night

Anons trying to kick out anime

Revamp the dough

My policy is this point is not to do anything for them - but to encourage note-taking, baking, working to get the dough in shape

That's all good.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:30 p.m. No.40539   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40531

You can use the notepad you've got already for note-taking too

i did that

did not bake at first just took notes.

the class dough above has resources for note-taking, a whole section (cap)

 

There's also a notables module (workshop) you can run thru on page 1 of the dough above.

 

But besides the q on notepad++, do you have other q's? We still have some time.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:40 p.m. No.40553   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0561

Think i'm gonna get started with a short presentation on board situation. see if we can get our "HIVE MIND" employed to think thru what's going on.

 

>>40542

feel free to keep asking q's throughout, this ain't high school, nobody's gonna worry about talking in class

carp ID: e340df Oct. 29, 2020, 4:42 p.m. No.40556   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40546

>>40547

 

I really hate communists and tyrants now. They are making good people suffer and businesses have failed because of them.

There is only one way to fix tyranny. You can vote in communism but the people of a nation can only get rid of them through the barrel of a g….

Opps, did I almost say that.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:42 p.m. No.40557   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40372

 

Q Post one week ago

PLEASE FIX THE BREAD AND TIDY UP THE SHIP. -Q

 

  • Why made this Q drop necessary? (problem history)

 

  • Does it just refer to cleaning up dup threads or is there more to it? (much more! imo)

 

  • What matters most right now?

 

  • It's FIVE DAYS to the election - ideas going forward

 

Gonna lay out and few things and then ask for ideas.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:43 p.m. No.40558   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40549

>>40551

 

I saw that float through an am bread in mid May, while I was still finalizing my board. It wasn't just once, either, they littered that bread with it in different sizes.

 

OSS pointed it out to me, too. I had only been able to see it after the fact, or else I would have called it out right then.

 

That, is what prompted me to go full retard with locking down my shit in May. Knew this day would come. Just didn't know when.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:44 p.m. No.40560   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0562 >>0574 >>0601 >>0822

History

Last week anons and bakers discussed what's happened to put the board in crisis.

(Recap from last week: >>>/comms/40365)

 

As usual, this is my 2cents.

 

In a nutshell:

  • Rogue baker OSS has been attacking bakers since late last winter.

  • Apologized in May, left, then came back in July.

  • Started a cycle of creating various problems so he could provide the solution: "hero of the board" gig

  • Main idea: /comms/ board is comp'd and traditional bakers are too.

  • Used constant spamming & overly-detailed "muh graphics" to sell ideas that had little merit on their own.

  • Secretly enlisted the help of FJ to pin baking thread in /qr/

  • Gained momentum due to increasing help from shills, bots and possibly /qr/ mgmt (who tried to take out bakers last year)

  • Whenever the board starts to 'normalize,' OSS steals bakes, bakes dups, or does both using multiple IPs

  • Then SPAMS "comms bakers did it."

 

Wrap up smear fully operational.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:46 p.m. No.40564   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0567 >>0601

PLEASE FIX THE BREAD AND TIDY UP THE SHIP

 

Two parts:

a. FIX THE BREAD

b. TIDY UP THE SHIP

 

What exactly did Q mean? again, my 2cents:

 

a. Fix the bread - no more things going in & out of the dough willy-nilly (confusing, destabilizing, no continuity)

  • This is mainly the job of bakers

  • But shills are making it hard for bakers to bake (they encourage new bakers but then create conditions that make it impossible - then blame others. Finally, OSS comes in a 'rescues' the board with competent baking…..rinse and repeat)

 

b. Tidy up the ship - cleanup by BO/BVs of bad bread numbers/titles, elimination of dup bakes and other board-level problems like spamming

  • Mainly the job of BO/BVs - bc although anyone can steal bakes, make dups, and SPAM and SHILL, only BO/BVs can make edits and deletions

 

Other ideas??

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:49 p.m. No.40568   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0575 >>0586

What matters most right now

 

1. New board (why create it? isn't it disloyal to /qr/?)

  • need to prepare another board in case one is requested by Q

  • meanwhile, gives somewhere for anons to work wo/constant bombardment by shills

  • reminds visitors what a smoothly functioning Q board looks like

 

2. Staying in touch with what is going on at /qr/ - especially anon questions/concerns

  • most anons are still at /qr/ - and Q still posts there (so needed for situational awareness)

  • keep up on latest shill tactics & counter them when possible (e.g., call out flat-out lies - like "comms is purposely sabotaging the breads")

  • lets us know where anons are at and how we can support them wo/also 'enabling' the shills (that is the difficulty!!)

 

3. Help anons become more aware of the situation & taking more responsibility for the breads

  • they are trying to do this, but have a lot less info than bakers (we been dealing with this situation since April)

  • can happen at /qr/, at /mr/, and in classes/forums like baking seminar (anywhere else??)

 

More??

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:53 p.m. No.40576   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0587 >>0611

I'm gonna insert something here i've been working on

 

because it speaks to the issue of why /qr/ is so fucked up right now.

lots of disinformation

 

hope this provides some ideas for how to counter it:

 

CHIEF FALSE IDEAS/ASSUMPTIONS that can be exploited by shills to damage the kitchen

 

  1. Anyone can bake.

In theory, yes. But few do. Among those that do, few remain bakers. Among those who remain, few are available to bake day in and day out. So the numbers of 'core crew' bakers is always small.

 

  1. Baking is easy.

If baking is so easy, why have the bakes been so screwed up for weeks? Because regular bakers seldom bake in /qr/ (bc their dough corrections are repeatedly reversed by shills or bakes are stolen by those with shill backing). If it's so easy, why aren't more anons baking?

 

  1. Bakers shouldn't have baker names.

Why is it better? Better in what way? Lots of anons have names (BO/BVs, ResignationAnon, GMTanon, etc.). None are their real names, just designators that allow us to know the role of the person on the board. Baker names are similar. They allow bakers to communicate clearly during handoffs. Also allow anons to know who is baking. Is that bad? Do anons not want to know who is baking? (I doubt it.)

 

  1. Long-time baking crew won't hand off except to their 'buddies'.

Based on idea that baking is a closed club. Once when shills were saying this, bakers made a special point to ask every single bread if someone else wants to bake. Especially someone new. They never did - even got to be a joke made into a meme about how "lotsa" anons wanted to bake (NOT).

 

  1. It's bad for bakers to plan or have shifts.

Having baker names means bakers can talk to other bakers to let them know when they are available to bake, so we don't end up with unexpected ghost breads at times when Q may post. Shills imply that bakers who can communicate will do so to "takeover the kitchen" (whatever that means).

 

  1. Anons would rather have anon making than know who is baking upfront.

Saying who you are upfront tells anons who is baking. Many like the idea. Why would anons want less transparency?

 

  1. Bakers were forced to produce named pbins or qbins to bake this summer.

No - not forced. But encouraged - yes. In order to prevent WR from sneaking stuff into the dough using anonymous bakes. That problem disappeared when bins were voluntarily used by most bakers when offering handoff. Not a perfect system - if used again, could be worked out in a way that allowed for complete anonymity.

 

  1. Bakers from "comms" have been sabotaging the dough.

Absolutely not. This is just a BIGGEST or the BIG LIES recently told about bakers. Meant to make sure that experienced bakers don't make it into the kitchen.

 

Thoughts?

c ID: 482921 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:54 p.m. No.40578   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0591

>>40571

Well OK. Since you brought chocolate.

I forgot to drink coffee today. Can you imagine? 1 cup morning, then got real busy and forgot. It's a TRAVESTY! It's evening here but i'm catching up on my caffeine intake to get normalized.

Kek.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:54 p.m. No.40579   🗄️.is 🔗kun

It's clear that the /qr/ bakers are under attack, but I will not speculate on who is involved without clear evidence, and so far most of the evidence has been poisoned, in all directions.

 

I can only speak to what I've seen for myself.

 

Same standard goes for all of the players, from this anon's POV.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:55 p.m. No.40581   🗄️.is 🔗kun

FIVE DAYS to the election

 

How can we now:

 

a. promote WWG1WGA

 

b. defeat shills

 

c. do what Q asked us to last week's "cleanup" drop.

 

end of presentation

All yours, anons

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:58 p.m. No.40585   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0596 >>0631

>>40575

Bakers are always under scrutiny

But OSS brought it to a whole new level

Inquisitorial in his methods

Encourages anons to basically spy on one another and thus creates a suspicious atmosphere on the board

Makes people shut down, stop talking

Easier to manipulate

c ID: 482921 Oct. 29, 2020, 4:58 p.m. No.40586   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0592 >>0602

>>40568

When baking, I always resisted adding anything to the notables that I thought could be used to discredit us. Things that appeared to be purposeful additions which I could easily imagine becoming the basis for hit pieces against "QAnon".

I believe that is one of the things the current ones baking dislike about /comms.

I'm not speaking for the rest of you but that was my approach.

Some of the current bakers seem to delight in putting stupid stuff and detrimental stuff into the notables.

Which speaks to either their (1) lack of experience in understanding what could be used to discredit Q or (2) demonstrates their motivation to work with MSM to discredit Q & anons.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Oct. 29, 2020, 5 p.m. No.40588   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0597 >>0604

>>40575

 

anons who choose to bake have run the gauntlet the entire time.

the bakery scrutiny has cycles, just like the shills have cycles.

 

literally what goes on every time, is someone will come up with a legitimate complaint, and then the shills seize on that and it balloons out from there. Hysteria model.

doc ID: 8d0cce Oct. 29, 2020, 5:01 p.m. No.40592   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40586

yep

they hated me for not letting the slides go through

stopped a Hanks slide, daily beast came out with a hit piece on it but didn't have the weight they wanted cause it was stopped, no doubt I was backed by anons on it too

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:04 p.m. No.40601   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0603 >>0615 >>0823

>>40560

>>40564

great work summarizing, thanks.

 

a)fixbred

while i don't disagree with your description, at the minimum, it just means having a running working bread, not dueling spam battles…

and those battles, power struggles brought on by the shilling/bake war/OSS/reasons are in my mind more what is meant by

b) tidy up

since the bread problems are the symptom, and the warring the cause.

since the shilling is relentless, even if anons can be just as stubborn, that's still just an impasse.

we're at an unfortunate necessity to discuss difficult questions of management - and the new board provides an interesting experiment in that regard, because a new, assumedly authoritarian approach is taken, whereas apparently the fully open principle remains active on qr, as only in most extreme/illegal cases does mgmt intervene.

Thing is, i get it, normally i'm with the all open too: for principle, but also because moderation changes the dynamic (basically platform/publisher, same as for social media): if any shill can post what they want on board, then we can't be blamed for the content. Of course we are anyway, but that's still another question.

BUT, after years in this, it seems that there can be appeal to one principle, that parallels Q recommendations of thinking for oneself, and recognizing how vital that is to grasping the finer points of the crumbs as well : the obvious.

What is obvious cannot always easily be proven, if at all. But to a living human mind, the obvious is obvious.

In our situation, to me at least it is obvious that ebot is a nuisance, and so are plenty other less glaring shills. If i were to be moderator, i think i could work with a principle of separation of content and method/quantity: basically shiposting vs spam.

Shiposting: pretty much anything goes, have at it.

Spam: now here's where it gets trickier. But to take an easy example, those fucking redhead from behind 5pics posts that became sigils or something… never figured quite what's going on there, but damn, i'd just blast that so fast.

Sure, they'll hop on with another IP, but good, make em use it. That's what having many BVs is all about, isn't it?

 

anyway.

this is still just musings about how to exert a moderation authority with transparency, and even more vitally: legitimacy.

haven't even really touched on the fact that the very discrete mgmt of qr has not done much lately to increase my confidence in them, regretfully…

i get they wish to keep at least an appearance of neutrality, but there's a lot they could do without directly "taking sides"..

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:05 p.m. No.40602   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40586

seems like blended shills often add really negative articles on POTUS etc (real news but totally slanted) hoping baker will just copypasta.

 

>>40575

that's something good to know when it comes to note-taking

don't just use the title if it's too wordy or too slanted

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:07 p.m. No.40604   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40588

Anons often have legit complaints

coz kitchen ain't perfect

but shills use them as wedge issues

 

One good reason to have this class is that anons can come and talk about things they see as problems.

First step toward something better.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:12 p.m. No.40609   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0613

>>40596

here we have the tradeoff between the "anyone can bake" idea and the fact that when "anyone can bake," shills bake too.

 

Sometimes it's not a big problem - occasional shill bakes happen.

But WR was pushing an agenda and pushing hard.

That's how bakers came this spring to trying to be able to recognize who wanted to bake when they offered.

 

I think anons liked knowing this too although it would be hard to admit because shills always jump you saying "name-fagging".

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:15 p.m. No.40610   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40598

>designed for chaos

yes, you can see it easily after a while.

how bakers (or now, new bakers and anons) work to get everything back in order and then - poof! -

there's a dup bake, or a 'jump ahead' bake, or the numbering is off, or title is missing, or notables suddenly disappear (not one or two but multiple buns!)

carp ID: e340df Oct. 29, 2020, 5:15 p.m. No.40611   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0614

>>40576

 

I've been busy with work but I've been avoiding going on due to the chaos of the board lately.

 

Re 8

Was on the board this AM (14486) and saw lots of gore pics and it was implied the they were from comms by another ID. Could see right through it but not all might realize what's going on.

doc ID: 8d0cce Oct. 29, 2020, 5:19 p.m. No.40614   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0622 >>0623 >>0649

>>40611

saw that too and kekked

what I got from early am bread is that anons aren't happy with any of the bakers, OSS, WR, Anime bakers just as bad as comms, so we are all equated now, in general they want the breads to run smoothly but they don't know what that takes

they won't ever have it if they don't know what it is

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:20 p.m. No.40615   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0617 >>0621

>>40601

  1. having a working bred - yes, agree

  2. tidy up -

 

let me ask you something:

if there is indeed a bread war, who would the warring factions be?

All the way thru i see just one main actor: OSS

not two separate groups with, say, different visions of the kitchen or something like that

 

his methods are simple:

just say BIG LIE, SPAM IT, FLOOD THE ZONE (member that from Event 201 last year?)

 

>how to exert a moderation authority with transparency, and even more vitally: legitimacy.

That's the problem in a nutshell

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:25 p.m. No.40618   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0629

>>40607

the problem now imo

is that shills have sold the "anons must bake" idea (together with the lie that comms bakers are saboteurs) to necessitate hiding one's identify if baking on /qr/.

 

Very similar to anitifa demands:

"we must be free to do what we want"

"no limits"

"no rules"

 

Same results too: chaos.

 

so that bakers do not use qbins to identify themselves

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:28 p.m. No.40620   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0635

>>40613

shills have to constantly push the agenda that we are the ones tearing up the dough

so anons don't notice it's them

now they use the existence of mr board to say we want to force anons to come there

(that's pretty funny - can't force anons to do anything. shills don't have much faith in anons tho, kek)

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:28 p.m. No.40621   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0632 >>0635 >>0656

>>40615

>if there is indeed a bread war, who would the warring factions be?

>All the way thru i see just one main actor: OSS

>not two separate groups with, say, different visions of the kitchen or something like that

yup, i agree. but part of its action/nuisance is precisely the multiple IDs/names/personas deployed, to create "enough" of a fog of war to claim war. It's hard to imagine discerning minds still falling for it at this point, but, i dunno…

 

>nutshell

well, as i said, midnightriders provides a de facto experiment. BO came in to nuke OSS who was just stirring shit.

Transparency is somewhat embedded in the kun architecture, as mod actions are logged and can be tracked by anons, even if they can't see content deleted after the fact, unless having an open thread somewhere.

and the legitimacy, well, anons coming over to MR know about the whole dumpsterfire, so they can understand trying a different approach.

and as a leap of faith, come to think of it, i was going to say it's not much more, but it might even be less of a leap of faith than the choiceless "faith" we have to have in FJ to run QR best he can…

it also pretty much worked in the 8bit era, delete/VPNs fights with shills… so, not only can it be done, there is precedent for qresearch

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:29 p.m. No.40622   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0636

>>40614

>what I got from early am bread is that anons aren't happy with any of the bakers, OSS, WR, Anime bakers just as bad as comms,

 

Seen.. hate to say I told ya so.. But pic relates.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:30 p.m. No.40623   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40614

the "baking is easy" narrative

makes em think they ought to be able to do it wo/practice, etc.

but -

they are discovering otherwise

perhaps they will just need to keep on discovering this for a while

Anonymous ID: 357204 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:31 p.m. No.40626   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0642

>>40619

i was here for this. the jq stuff made who the shills were obvious but then a new baker took over and included the jq stuff. made it harder to tell who was who. then a bo/bv locked the good new baker bread and the shill variant continued… then new guy skipped a number in the ensuing competition.

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:31 p.m. No.40627   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0630 >>0641 >>0645 >>0648

>>40589

>>40589

>A lot of people think OSS is more than one person

The only idiot that believes that is you, I am one single person and I can prove it. Ask me about any conversation I have ever had with any of you and I can and will recall the entire interaction verbatim.

 

This is just your attempt to make it seem like some nefarious organization through you out of the kitchen when it was you yourselves that caused you ejection.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:32 p.m. No.40628   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40617

>competing shill bakes

yeah, me too

that's weird but mebbe not if the main goal want to maximize confusion

sometimes it's look like OSS will bake a dup bread, ask for handoff then switch IPS and say "handoff confirm"

Meanwhile, everybody's heads are spinning.

doc ID: 8d0cce Oct. 29, 2020, 5:33 p.m. No.40629   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0634 >>0658

>>40618

>>40618

clarity freebs

anons have bought into the anons must bake because they are a bunch of idealists, not a one with a pragmatic bone in they body

idealism never works

it's just thought

KRS 11 aka OSS warned of Red October and now we have it

he's got pig farm goin strong yo

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:34 p.m. No.40631   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0633 >>0658

>>40585

>Bakers are always under scrutiny

>

>But OSS brought it to a whole new level

Because for a long time I was the only paying attention to the bullshit some of you do and vocal about it. If you weren't doing shit that deserved scrutiny you wouldn't be worried about the scrutiny. You can scrutinize all of my actions and you have been for over a month, and still you don't have shit on me except for attempts to gaslight because I am always 100% transparent..

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:36 p.m. No.40634   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0637

>>40629

>KRS 11 aka OSS warned of Red October and now we have it

Another baker from /comms/ trying to say I am someone else with 0 proof, just trying to gaslight with bullshit. I don't even know who KRS11 is. Last week I was TYB according to you and your tranny.

c ID: 482921 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:36 p.m. No.40635   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0638 >>0656 >>0660

>>40620

>now they use the existence of mr board to say we want to force anons to come there

>(that's pretty funny - can't force anons to do anything. shills don't have much faith in anons tho, kek)

>>40621

>well, as i said, midnightriders provides a de facto experiment

 

Notice: Shills denigrate EVERY other board than QR. It is PLAIN that their agenda is to herd anons onto a single board and keep us corraled there, where they have max leverage by sheer numbers, lack of administration or rules, a hive mind history filled with claims they have made up about others, etc.

Doesn't matter who makes another board or how they run it or its purpose, shills will ALWAYS try to smear that board and paint it as evil.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:37 p.m. No.40636   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0643 >>0652

>>40622

great if anons take things into their own hands and it goes well

 

but

if they do so without understanding how the OP is working, it's unlikely they'll be successful in the long run. Just when it looks like everything is going well - whoever is successful will be attacked as the next "turncoat baker."

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:38 p.m. No.40638   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40635

> de facto experiment

oh, i'm seeing this as a good thing - great, even. sorry if unclear.

the forcing anons there spin is indeed dumb, it just exists, as does qr.

agree with shills gonna shill, of course

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:39 p.m. No.40639   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0651

>>40630

>but you can understand why people would think that if you're doing multiple 20hour shifts

The longest I have ever baked is 13 hours in one sitting, which isn't hard to do. The most breads I have ever baked in a day is twelve. 20 hours is an exaggeration to try and lend credence to the BS I am not just one person.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:39 p.m. No.40642   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0647

>>40626

yeah, the number of mistakes habbening right now is kind of mind-boggling.

And of course makes ya wonder if they are all mistakes.

But even very good bakers make mistakes due to the nature of the job.

Which is which?

c ID: 482921 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:40 p.m. No.40645   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0678

>>40627

Verbatim memory is useful but

does not seem to help you very much

in discerning who's who.

As one of your smear targets,

I know who I am and am not frenly with,

so I have personal knowledge whenever

you wrongly smear me or anons I know.

 

Just sayin'

Makes you feel cocky, but does not

address the basic flaw which is your

apparent inability to distinguish one

anon from another.

Sorry, but that's how I see it.

Wish it were otherwise.

I would prefer to be frens with all patriots.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:42 p.m. No.40648   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0655

>>40627

Actually, I do not personally believe that OSS is more than one person. I do believe OSS has an OP involving more than one person and that they have the ability to communicate off the board. DEfinitely communicates with FJ using Report - and from there it would be easy to do other off board commsn.

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:42 p.m. No.40649   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0653 >>0654

>>40614

>OSS, WR, Anime

This is exactly what the fuck I am talking about, I have absolutely nothing to do with these 2 and stand fucking stand Gerbil/Laughing_man yet you, in gaslighting, keep trying to lump us together. It isn't working, I talk more shit to Gerbil than I do any of you. And last night I was behind all the anons that wanted to eject Anime.

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:42 p.m. No.40651   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0668

>>40639

ok, but what you don't seem to get is that even if you're just one person, then you must realize YOU ARE AS BAD AS MULTIPLE BOTS HOLYFUCKS SAKE how could you be anon and concerned for the board and mission and cause n all that and be such a spamming, redtexting, lying waste of energy?

 

>>40644

qresear.ch, see your posts. you're all over the last month, at least.

that time you blamed comms for deleting the maps YOU took out was particularly rich

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:42 p.m. No.40652   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40636

 

Think about this: When I popped up again in April, there was some chatter here about who the fuck this baker was that popped up on gravy that could seemingly bake and keep up the entire gravy….

 

Then I was invited here. I'm not the only og that will ever fall out of the woodwork. God that looks so pretentious.. (puke).. but it's true.

doc ID: 8d0cce Oct. 29, 2020, 5:44 p.m. No.40654   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40649

never said you did, what i read this morning was a list like this, from an anon, not my words, they equate all the bakers as bad now, that is what I read, which is the lesser of the evils was the argument

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:44 p.m. No.40655   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0667

>>40648

>Actually, I do not personally believe that OSS is more than one person. I do believe OSS has an OP involving more than one person and that they have the ability to communicate off the board. DEfinitely communicates with FJ using Report - and from there it would be easy to do other off board commsn.

Sauce, here's mine of you doing exactly what you are projecting onto me.

carp ID: e340df Oct. 29, 2020, 5:44 p.m. No.40656   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0719

>>40621

>>40632

>>40635

 

Sowing chaos is the object.

This causing discouragement.

These are tactics from the enemy and his minions, whether soros, antifa or whomever.

 

We are under attack and in this new kind of warfare we have to learn how to defend and counter attack with the goal of going on the offensive to keep the enemy off balance.

gb ID: ea89d1 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:45 p.m. No.40657   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0661 >>0675

>>40644

fuck off clown

You caused all this shit over some fuckin' notablesin MAY

That it continues to evolve into the crap that you've manufactured and produced over the last month is a result of your paranoia and insecurity along with a big helping of your lackeys that continue to push that narrative.

All of your "graphics" are total and complete fabrications

GO FUCK YOURSELF

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:46 p.m. No.40658   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0678

>>40629

>Idealism never works

how right you are!

>>40631

oh it's you.

if you were sincere about trying to sort out problems, why did you not approach me as a fellow baker (and human being) and ASK "why did you do such and such?"

You never did that with me or anyone else.

You make public accusations first, which hurts both the targeted person and the board.

I thought you were just rigid and paranoid.

But there's more to it.

If every baker on this board left 8 tomorrow, you would find a new "bad guy" to expose.

Because that is who you are.

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:46 p.m. No.40659   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0662 >>0663 >>0664 >>0674

>>40653

Once again, you gaslight with 0 sauce

 

>>40646

>we think there are people impersonating you as well

>

>have you seen that?

Yes, it is that FFynt idiot or whatever it is pic related, caught him doing it 4 times, once 2 days in the same day. Funny you mention it since Karen was trying to assist with it by her own words.

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:48 p.m. No.40660   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0678

>>40635

>It is PLAIN that their agenda is to herd anons onto a single board

100% agree.

We gotta be flexible and aware of what's happening, not rooted to any one board, idea, or method.

Stay prepared for multiple situations. as in IRL.

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:48 p.m. No.40661   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0666 >>0672

>>40657

>fuck off clown

>

>You caused all this shit over some fuckin' notablesin MAY

No I caused all of this in May because Endchan was trying to take over the board and insert their links into the dough to redirect anons to their site. You've been trying to gaslight me since faggot. Only problem is you are too stupid to do it and use the same file names. In the "always collecting notes" you were even stupid enough to reuse the same meme with the p=payseur shit.

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:49 p.m. No.40662   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0678 >>0684

>>40659

>sauce

oh look at you mastering anon lingo, how impressive

>gaslight

projection, always¸, and the female kind, even

 

your graphics are pure obfuscation.

want sauce?

i'll play

 

>>40118 commsmeta

>got me a Division shill trying hard today:

>

>UK #23 >>11272778

>you got caught fucking with the breads, just like you do here,

> you're "boatfag" from the /comms/ faggot bakers,

> you took our beloved graphics away, and laughed about it,

>graphics that were started within days of Q's first posts, told us to do it, and you tried to trash them,

>you failed faggot, and you failing to trash this bread too

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:50 p.m. No.40668   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0676 >>0684

>>40651

>qresear.ch, see your posts. you're all over the last month, at least.

>

>that time you blamed comms for deleting the maps YOU took out was particularly rich

This is a flat out lie, I didn't blame /comms/ for deleting anything, I removed the /comms/ links from the dough and then copied over every single file one by one to /qr/ and asked the bread be stickied. Keep making shit up.

c ID: 482921 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:51 p.m. No.40669   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Jim W. rightly said that the correct antidote to hate speech is counterspeech. (My paraphrase). Counterspeech takes work. In some cases a lot of work.

And then when you DO engage in counterspeech, it is essentially a meta discussion about "board politics" that changes the focus of the board from decoding Q drops, monitoring & analyzing world events etc., to people arguing with one another. That may be interesting to the people arguing, but from the perspective of people outside of QR who are looking for the drops & the news & anon analysis, it is absolutely worthless and simply a distraction. It look juvenile.

 

There are some anons who want us to change our focus away from news, truth, analysis, digging etc. and focus entirely on "who is the bad guy here and what bad stuff did they do today".

Wanting this to be the focus, to me, is prima facie evidence of shillery.

gb ID: ea89d1 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:52 p.m. No.40672   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40661

>Payseur shit

Total fabrications bruh

Love that you still try to use muh graphics

You took the bait, YET AGAIN-like you and your retarded crew always do

You made it into that because you created all this crusade for your own personal gain

The famefaggin part is still hilarious-like last night…bravo on the set-up but as usual POOR execution your part.

You are all stories and no substance

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:53 p.m. No.40676   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0687

>>40668

> I removed the /comms/ links from the dough and then copied over every single file one by one to /qr/ and asked the bread be stickied.

 

=

 

> making shit up.

 

projecting, again.

there isn't a crowd to fool here, there's no need for this.

i know.

 

you did such a SHIT job pasting over the maps after your entire empire crumbled under anon rage that you WOKE UP GMT ANON FROM THE UNDEAD

thanks for that, you disgusting permanent opposite of truth

Anonymous ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:55 p.m. No.40678   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0680 >>0681 >>0682 >>0683 >>0686

>>40667

>I have no proof so I'll call it a waste of time after making an accusation

 

>>40666

>gaslighting with no sauce

 

>>40665

Q chose to avoid any bread /comms/ baked for 18 days straight, facts are facts.

 

>>40663

Same shit as always

 

>>40662

>Avoidance

Still waiting for your sauce

 

>>40660

Yes, your /MNR/ board

 

>>40658

>if you were sincere about trying to sort out problems, why did you not approach me as a fellow baker (and human being) and ASK "why did you do such and such?"

You lie every time it is brought up.

 

>>40645

I don't know who you are so I don't know how I have smeared you

 

>>40641

>how bout those anvils

Still zero fucking clue what you are speaking of and when I ask you just say "see this proves it" like a moron

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:57 p.m. No.40680   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40678

> avoid any bread

not true, posted in plenty of them

 

>>40678

>Still waiting for your sauce

shit boye, you're lying right here in this thread then, you just found it

 

go on say

<gaslight

<sauce

again

i know you will

 

 

Poe's Law applies, OSS.

you are a shill.

walk like a fuck, talk like a fuck.

you are named with the other shills because you are one of them.

failure to recognize this, only proves it further.

it is beyond obvious.

OSS !!!MjEwYTM3M2Q0ZTBl ID: a3fa89 Oct. 29, 2020, 5:59 p.m. No.40682   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0686 >>0690 >>0691 >>0692 >>0712

>>40678

>>40679

You hold your little circle-jerk once a week and all it has become is you trying to gaslight me.

 

Here I am, provide some evidence that I have ever done anything subversive. Anything other than document your shit, and let anons know about, any evidence you have I am more than just once person. Any evidence I am trying do anything other than what I have stated- to remove the members on this board from the kitchen(not all members just the ones I have and can prove do fucked up things.)

 

I'm waiting for some sauce.

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 6:05 p.m. No.40691   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0695

>>40682

> you trying to gaslight me

is any anon even attempting to provide accurate testimony, that can be verified by… OTHER ANONS who were right there as well. and others. and others.

 

>>40682

> provide some evidence that I have ever done anything subversive.

again, the more you intervene, the more you provide it yourself

freebaker ID: 59d894 Oct. 29, 2020, 6:09 p.m. No.40695   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0698 >>0699 >>0702 >>0706 >>0707 >>0712

I'm gonna close class now friends

Ready to do something other that "chat' with OSS - who will only use anything written here in next edition of "MUH GRAPHICS."

 

thanks to all for coming

One thing is clear: we all see what's going on here - not exactly the same but close enough

 

Harder to figure out solutions

(as always)

 

But bakers are a stubborn bunch and don't give up easily. Thanks to all for coming.

>>40692

>>40691

>>40690

>>40687

>>40688

>>40677

 

>>40617

Do you have more questions on note-taking or baking?

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 6:09 p.m. No.40696   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40684

>That's when you took out all the comms links wo/thinking of the consequences. Including GMTanons's.

>Tactical error, OSS

this one, OSS. this one alone ruins all your graphics and copypastas.

not only how it happened, but how quickly you lied about it right after, and still do.

 

ALL OF IT is your sauce.

ALL OF IT is you proving day after day your fuckery.

Anonymous ID: e0cf35 Oct. 29, 2020, 6:57 p.m. No.40722   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40721

it also fed the slide that i don't really engage with OSS on the QR threads, as it's just giving it what it wants and keeping the untidy going, so since she popped over here, might as well give it a chance to speak its mind.

not impressed.

Laughing_Man ID: 63755f Oct. 29, 2020, 7:05 p.m. No.40723   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Late as could be but wanted to stop by and say hello.

Hope all is going well for all!

Looks like it was mainly the regulars when skimming the bread.

o7

carp ID: e340df Oct. 29, 2020, 7:06 p.m. No.40724   🗄️.is 🔗kun

It continues.

 

▶Anonymous 10/29/20 (Thu) 18:59:09 4f9090 (17) No.11351554 >>11351569 >>11351592 >>11351624

 

>>11351540

 

Anime / OSS alliance = end of comms

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

Anonymous ID: 357204 Oct. 29, 2020, 9:31 p.m. No.40752   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0754

>>40749

All I know is it doesn't match. and the most recent doughs are over an hour old. I watched 2 doughs bake but no new dough got qanon.binned

Hopefully the right people will see this in the morning.

Anonymous ID: 08dd91 Oct. 29, 2020, 11:07 p.m. No.40766   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0783 >>0794 >>0796

>>40726

Well that clears everything up!

NOT

 

What if OSS is right?

What if, as individuals we don't like our mistakes being aired or being accused of misdeeds…

 

Don't know enough. But these are good questions to raise and contemplate.

 

Some time this week I said, I would choose Anime over Oss any day.

In my mind, at least you know Anime is a troublemaker set on F'n up the bread / notables, splitting the bread when not getting their own way and generally provoking others because they are 100% PURE DICKHEAD. (Very rare)

 

Oss in their own right, speaks their version of the truth, does good notes, doesn't seem to harm the breads, notables or harass the anons… just naughty bakers perhaps?

 

Don't know…. Preferring to stay comfy… that's where all my trouble starts… mmm

 

Very interesting… going to spend a small amount of attention, instead of filtering out the drama, feels like something of value could come of this experience.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Oct. 30, 2020, 6:35 a.m. No.40792   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40791

>this stuff is a silly waste of muh time

 

This is how it's looking. After a month of sanctimony. Time to just start baking again, for my own part, I've seen enough to know what the deal is now..

 

Sorry I missed you this past weekend, btw. Hit me up in one of the metas if you still want to do so. I don't care which one. I'll eventually see it either way.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Oct. 30, 2020, 7:14 a.m. No.40794   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0795

>>40766

>or harass the anons… just naughty bakers perhaps?

 

imo,mistakes have been made, by several people, not going to call out any specific individual at this point.. Because the point (keeping communications clear) was ~~forgotten about~~ discarded over a month ago, at least by some.. Friendly fire has occurred.

 

Shit happens in the gulch. Knowing makes it easier to continue in an environment where all the variable can not be known. Shadilay o7

Anonymous ID: 59d894 Oct. 30, 2020, 10:22 a.m. No.40796   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40766

>What if OSS is right?

OSS is cruel, insulting, and power-hungry. Never asks anyone "Why did you do x?" Just starts spamming "COMP'D!!!" Not much is right about that.

 

Choosing anime over OSS -

I choose neither. They probably work together, animes do not respond to what anons want and put muh joos spam in the bread. You want to chose THAT?

 

>doesn't seem to harm the breads, notables or harass the anons… just naughty bakers perhaps

Why do you come to a class facilitated by someone OSS calls "CommsKaren" in order to demean and insult?

Anonymous ID: 5f710b Nov. 1, 2020, 9:58 p.m. No.40820   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0825 >>0826 >>0827 >>0828

Take my comments and observations for what they are worth, hopefully constructive.

 

I am anon-anon, just someone who never posted on any of the chan boards until Q research. You seem to be a group that wants to keep the board running smoothly, although some proposals in this thread do concern me.

 

  1. I think it is important to keep QR as a neutral environment where anon contributors from all over the worlds can come and feel productive. After getting over the initial revulsion of the typical daily distractions and shill crap, it is essential that anons feel like they can make a difference and advance the research and causes outlined by Q.

 

  1. As a neutral environment, QR must avoid at all costs seeming like a 'club', or a faction, or a group of buddies who just landed here from /pol/ or wherever. That is why there is extreme reaction to the anime bakers. But it is also why there is extreme reaction to "comms" bakers. Most of us don't know WTF Comms is, but if this other person is calling you out as the problem, then he just created an awareness. "You mean there is a group of bakers who hand off breads to each other? THAT sounds suspicious." I think you can see the problem here, if you look at it from anon-anon perspective. Admittedly it is our own fault for not understanding bakes. For all I know, Comms could be the glue holding everything together. If you are, then you need to consider the optics here.

 

  1. Comms bakers, lets assume you are the good guys, but you have effectively invited this outsider person to attack your weakness. Every time you refer to each other as KB, or FB, or Doc, or whoever…you have broken the invisible trust. Now anon-anons can see that there are indeed a group of 'buddies' having outside comms with each other, making plans about the board. Even if they are good plans, but how would anons know that? It comes across as subversion, even if it is well intended. Advice = PLEASE stop referring to each other in the breads, you are just creating a rash of shit. Keep neutral, keep anon.

 

  1. One of you seems to be recommending a new board where 'real' anons can gather, and leave QR behind to collect all the shills and continue as the shit-show it has turned into. As anon-anon, I COULD NOT DISAGREE MORE. Q Research is Q's board. NO outside comms. It is the place intended for the collected research. Splitting into something new is cool, hey I'm sure there are lots of other boards. But aligning with QR in any way would in fact hurt QR. Ask yourselves if you really want to do that, before considering yourselves as the 'good guys' in this situation.

 

  1. Lately there have been non-stop attempts at changing the QR graphic. Is this a Comms effort? And if so, why on earth would you want to piss off most anons who want to see this graphic unchanged? If it is not a Comms effort, are you doing anything to help push the original graphic? When anon-anons see shit like this, it only re-enforces the belief that the kitchen is out of control, and there are indeed baker wars going on. If you contend that baker wars a myth, then help restore order and harmony to the bakes.

 

  1. Back to Point 1. Assuming you are the good guys, you are absolutely critical in the mission Q has set us on. Everyone appreciates a neutral, well done bake. Permit me to add, it is impossible for bakers to look neutral when they are posting 30 times in a bread, putting spam in notables, and generally causing mayhem. Presumably this is why you have these Comms breads, and I can only hope and encourage you to push some responsible standards to the bakers you train.

 

  1. Please PLEASE understand the mindset of anon-anons, who are probably the vast majority of people in QR. We don't give a shit about gamergate, we haven't spent our adult lives on chan boards, and we don't know or care about individual personalities. The more of us who are drawn to QR to participate, the quicker the evil in the world can be exposed and our loved ones can be red pilled. That is why we are here.

red ID: e653cb Nov. 2, 2020, 4:53 a.m. No.40823   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0824

>>40601

>fucking redhead from behind 5pics posts

>>40603

 

So it was interesting to see that start happening. I do think they attempt to impersonate some anons and make them as unlikable as possible. It's just part of the division shilling they engage in.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Nov. 2, 2020, 5:49 a.m. No.40824   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>40823

 

confirmed. Caught attempts on:

 

me - caught. oss commented on this one. but I tripfag so that was stupid on whoever did it.

awoo (animebaker) - that's why they are tripfagging now. this baker is oldfag, so if you're wondering where the clout comes from… that's why.

barkeep

you.

 

So impersonation is definitely happening. Doesn't matter how old or new.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 695564 Nov. 2, 2020, 6:10 a.m. No.40825   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0827

>>40820

>3… Every time you refer to each other

 

there's been several instances recently where the name clearly doesn't matter, you will be outed even if you don't tag up. Better have your own proof of your doings (or lack thereof)…

 

My sin was refusing the group think, from ALL groups.

 

IMO, my payment was that I got betrayed by agents from both groups. That's fine. I started out as a singular anon, and prefer it anyway. Individuals have spoken their minds about that, and those individuals I appreciate.

If anything it makes it clear that a lot of effort went into this operation being discussed. Sloppy effort, but still effort.

 

5… The head post image That was chosen to keep the drama going. The operators are aware that the anons are now sick of "infighting" and are done hearing about it.

 

From both sides. So essentially the narrative is what it is now, efforts to present anything else will be viewed as shilling. So some pr casualties have happened.

 

Shit happens in the gulch. If muh opinion isn't liked, well, that's nothing new.

freebaker ID: f3dd5c Nov. 2, 2020, 10 a.m. No.40826   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0827 >>0829

>>40820

Appreciate your comments, anon.

>1. neutral

totally agree

>2. avoid looking like a club

here the problem is optics vs practicality

to ensure no ghost bakes during the day, bakers communicate when they will be around to bake

New bakers could - and did - bake as well. but can't rely on that alone.

Bakers were always asking if someone wanted to bake (espec a newbie) -

offer almost never accepted but shills kept saying 'club' nonetheless

>3. namefagging

won't apologize for that, coupla reasons

a. they are not real names, b. no gain for bakers, just better comms, c. to me, anon is a security measure, nothing more, d. bakering is lonely (w/constant, nasty, often personal attacks - so mutual support matters for maintaining esprit de corps).

>4. one of you

bakers are diverse, we don't control one another

>no outside comms

applies to where Q posts imo - has nothing to do with where anons work (on 8, twitter, etc).

>5. Changing the Q graphic

initiated by barkeep b/sine_nomine/akira - guy who 'loves' the animes

Baked on gerbil's endchan board. Disappeared after replatforming then reappeared with inflated ego late this summer, threw in with OSS. I was there two nights ago when battle raged about the image - this baker completely ignored anons who wanted the image reverted to the original. Now he's changing it every time he bakes - truly appalling, it's the destruction of an important symbol for the board.

>6. bakers critical

Yep. But patriots bakers can't realistically bake on /qr/ at this point. there were repeated efforts to help things 'settle' during sept - only result was sleepless, exhausted bakers. OSS is a remarkable manipulator, espec w/support from BO. If anons do not realize this, they will be subject to those manipulations.

Re posting crap on /qr/ - Jeez anon, the fact that anons actually believe traditional bakers would do this - what can i say? This is SO FAR from true as to be unthinkable. It is 100% SHILLS. ALL OF IT. One reason i will continue to keep this class open is so anons can see how "comms bakers" actually talk and act for themselves.

>7. mindset of anons

Agree that most anons don't care about board politics - just wanna place to post. But just look at how this mindset creates the perfect conditions for shills to division fag. Exactly the same way the msm manipulates normies IRL. Really important from now on - whatever happens with QR - that anons realize that situational awareness on the part of ALL anons is necessary to keep any board resistant to shill attacks.

 

Thanks for caring, anon. Bakers care too - but caring is not enough to resurrect /qr/. BO could help but won't. So fixing this situation is likely to require the intervention of Q in some way or a move to a new board, imo. If bakers like me try to bake on /qr/, shills will scream and OSS will flood the place with spam on /comms/. Even worse than now.

Each of us can each do only what it is within our power to do. Some bakers created a clean board because that is what bakers know how to do. Anons are welcome to work there, Q is welcome to post there should he wish. Nobody wanted this but it is what it is. Past is past, we move forward into an unknown future.

 

Shadilay,

o7

Anonymous ID: 51ef26 Nov. 2, 2020, 12:09 p.m. No.40828   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0829

>>40820

>>40820

I think this is fabulous anon

truly

it shows that you speak for all anons and anons have a plan to work and run the kitchen effectively and with the very ideals anons have come to accept

comms is place, not a group or people, as you may have surmised from our names

here is all the baking material on how to and lots of experience to help you get started

let us know when you need help learning

this is so exciting!

Anonymous ID: 64cf28 Nov. 2, 2020, 7:18 p.m. No.40829   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0939

>>40827

>>40828

>>40826

 

Perhaps a simple way that you could communicate with each other without seeming like a 'faction', is to post your image rather than namefagging. I've noticed "KB" posts his little Bee image. I think it is subtle enough that most anons won't catch it, but those of you who happen to be posting in the bread will catch it.

 

Of course your outside infiltrator guy will catch it too, and then start bitching about it. But we just think he is a shill so he gets ignored. He does a good job of painting /comms as evil, so don't give him ammunition is what I'm saying.

 

Thanks for listening, it gives me some hope.

Anonymous ID: f3dd5c Nov. 5, 2020, 2:08 p.m. No.41080   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Ten Tips for Notables

rev. 11-5-2020

 

GENERALLY

 

1. Maintain a separate Notepad++ file for notables (don't insert directly in the pastebin file).

Enables you to note missing sauce, put in "iffy" notes at the end (waiting for a nom), etc.

 

2. Post about four times during the bread, (early, middle, last call, final).

Don't stick anything iffy in at the last moment, make sure anons can vet it first.

 

3. Make notables easy to find with RED TEXT and BOLD.

Especially important if you may have to ghost–next baker needs heavy formatting to locate important info like notes.

 

4. Link notes to dough post if you have to ghost.

Same reason as above.

 

DECIDING WHAT TO NOTABLE

 

5. Look for anon noms, they are usually notable.

"Usually" because shills nom too. So do trolls. If not sure, ask for a 2nd nom or say what's missing.''

 

6. For noms wo/a description (usually anon diagrams, etc.), ask for one.

It's anons' responsibility to summarize a main point.'

 

7. Look for newsy articles

If necessary, edit the title to be more neutral (not insulting) or shorter if wordy (or add important details if missing).

 

8. Look for special reports: planefags, boatfags, Resignations in the News, etc.

Anons seldom nom these, except for RA's stuff if they don't see it in Notes.

 

9. If there is too much news & bred is fast…

…focus mainly on nommed posts, breaking news (if verified), news re Q concerns (CP, etc.).

 

10. Check for two things: dates and whether it's been notabled (in qresear.ch).

Easy during slow breads, hard during fast ones. Dates take priority. But if you forget, anons or shills will always let you know.

doc ID: 31c13d Dec. 1, 2020, 6:24 p.m. No.42595   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2596

>>42592

way cool

 

I am guessing that for this we use MNR so go to the top of the MNR page, copy

 

QR Midnight Riders #77: Patriots Stand Strong & United! Edition

copy this and paste in subject line of new thread post

 

You don't strike me as "fishy"

just sayin

yeah, I get strange at times but muh cakes are guud and clean

doc ID: 31c13d Dec. 1, 2020, 6:30 p.m. No.42597   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2600

>>42596

just copy what I gave you

I did it

I want you to be aware that you can get the subject line from the catalog or top of page, sometimes in qr catalog is borked, always moar than one way to skin the cat

doc ID: 31c13d Dec. 1, 2020, 6:47 p.m. No.42604   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2605

>>42603

forget the top of the bread

in the comms catalog, where you have clicked create a new thread paste that sentence I gave you in the subject line

 

QR Midnight Riders #77: Patriots Stand Strong & United! Edition

doc ID: 31c13d Dec. 1, 2020, 8:08 p.m. No.42647   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2649

if you want to bake

 

confirm handoff

 

baker will answer

 

handoff confirmed

 

you will close handoff with

 

acknowledged

 

Now, that is the proper way, qr is less than knowledgeable about it, weird sometimes

 

MNR is so casual, we all bakers, we do less formal

doc ID: 31c13d Dec. 1, 2020, 8:46 p.m. No.42666   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2668

for notables

look at formatting

dot dot dot #76 dot dot dot (single apostrophe)

then #76 at bottom

now that you didn't save you can edit notables

make a space for those notables

two spaces after Endorsements then bread # as given #76

wdb ID: e340df Dec. 1, 2020, 9:46 p.m. No.42693   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2695

>>42692

 

Yes, kinetic learning is best for me.

I would like to try my 1st public bake on MNR sometime. Next door has become unhealthy in my opinion and I'm not sure I would get the support I need from those anons, shills and whatnot.

 

Maybe I could start with collectingNo Tablesto get the hang of things. Can I use Qbin for that and the Baker of record take over from there or would it just be better to do that through the 'Reply' post?

doc ID: 31c13d Dec. 1, 2020, 9:51 p.m. No.42695   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>42693

sounds perfect I think

ask baker on duty if you can collect notables

MR is a bit diff in that we post things there in a concentrated manner so we don't pick and choose, it's all notable

guud practice for ya