Anonymous ID: fca833 Baking Seminar #23 July 16, 2020, 12:47 a.m. No.19692   🗄️.is 🔗kun

LIVE Baking Seminar

 

7/16/2020

 

We in here

 

Welcome To LIVE Baking Classes in the Q Research Utility Kitchen

 

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

 

We are the bakers who provide the breads for those anons who post Qresearch's open-sourced information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. We do battle in the sphere of baking ideas and baking ideas only. We neither need nor condone the use of force in our work here.

 

 

=VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS=

=SEMPER FIDELIS=

=WWG1WGA=

 

INTRO TO BAKING

Qresearch is a 24/7 beehive of activity where anons post their diggs, memes and prayers.

For this to happen requires ''bakers''–which is why they have been called "the core of this board."

Bakers perform several key functions:

* Set the tone for each bread via their choice of bread title and /comms/ with posters.

* Post notables for each bread.

* Bake breads (transition the board from one thread to the next).

* Knead the dough (keeping the resource pages clean, tidy, and up-to-date).

When all goes well, baking is a fun & exciting opportunity to serve. When things get wonky and shills attack–bakers carry on anyway.

Shadilay, fellow bakers!

 

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General Announcements

* Baking Class in /comms/ every Thursday @7pm ET: practice baking, Q&A, all are welcome

* Baking class plan (so any baker can teach) >>11969, https://pastebin.com/gqfunWCR

* How to bake a baking seminar dough >>14289

* Too many threads problem - bakers be(a)ware >>15895

* Qbin links qanonbin.com, www2qanonbin.com

 

Past Class links & archives

>>6125 #1, >>6368 #2, >>6885 #3, >>7185 #4 , >>7568 #5, >>8274 #6, >>8872 #7, >>9320 #8, >>9787 #9, >>10510 #10, >>11086 #11, #12 >>11733, #13 >>13041, #14 >>13590, #15 >>14290, #16 >>14873, #17 >>15341, #18 >>15918, #19 >>16885, #20 >>17719, #21 >>18289

Archives: Classes #1 - #20: >>18934

 

Step-by-Step Baking Instructions

>>17783 STEP 0 - Preparation

>>17797 STEP 1 - Find the Current Dough

>>17803 STEP 2 - Copy the Current Dough

>>17807 STEP 3 - Paste The Dough Into Text Editor ( >>17810 dough in Q-bin)

>>17815 STEP 3a - Trim The Notables Section

>>17822 STEP 3b - Make space for your New Notables

>>17831 STEP 4 - Create A New Thread

>>17837 STEP 5 - Enter Thread Info And Post Thread

>>17845 STEP 6 - Enter the Rest of the Dough

>>17863 STEP 7 - Make A New Pastebin & Make The Dough Post ( >>17868, >>17871, >>17875 Q-bin updates)

>>17876 STEP 8 - Post Your New Thread Link

 

Baking Overview & Extras

>>17777 Overview

>>17884 Linking between Boards

>>17894 Timing

>>14523 Baker's Tools Lite

>>16963 NEW: How to Bake When Q Posts >>16994, >>17015, >>17032, >>17037

 

E-BAKE Instructions

>>9252, >>10776

 

Dough Revision

Page 1 - Baking Seminar Intro & Step-by-Step Baking Instructions

Page 2 - Baking Resources

Page 3 - Baking FAQs in 3 posts

 

Old pages 2 & 3 can be found HERE:

>>14291 Q & A - Baking Seminars #1 - #14

>>14293 Baker Tips, Tricks & Traps #1 - #14

Anonymous ID: fca833 July 16, 2020, 12:47 a.m. No.19693   🗄️.is 🔗kun

BAKING RESOURCES

 

Baker's grab bag

* Baker's Tools app (Version 0.7.2) Baker Tools v0.7.2: >>9584, >>9597, >>9601 https://pastebin.com/L1p6iRzZ

* Baker's Tools Lite (stripped down, good for baking) >>14523, https://pastebin.com/pUVCTeCG

* Try Atom as a text editor for Macs >>6925, >>6934, >>7055, >>7070

* Meme-making app kek.gg >>8771

* Crazy Bakes: wonky board, lags, baking from Index, "flood detected", dup breads >>9960

* How's your mouse for baking? >>10617

* Font used for baking school slides >>10642, https://www.dafontfree.net/find.php?q=impact

* Quik Pic bake instructions >>7549

* Original baking video >>7076 (shows how to make room for new notables)

* Overcoming paywalls >>10844

* Pastebin.com problems & alternatives >>11645, >>11609, >>11619, >>11620, >>11627, >>11640

* How to Control-F on androids & IOS devices >>13566, >>13567

* How to do a keyword search when /qresearch/ is down >>13696

* Past bread archive for /qresearch/: https://qanon.news/Archives

 

Dealing with notables

* Note-taking roles: baker, note collector, helper anon, posters >>14921

* Ten Baker Tips for Notables >>8177

* Bakers on what they look for in notables >>8351, >>8315, >>8698

* Muh Collector "how to" on notables >>9006, >>9009

* Anon tips for better notables >>>/qrb/41937, https://pastebin.com/yq7wQyvn

* Long notables; Asking anons to state main point >>13633, >>8237

* Asking anons to state the main point

* Advanced Google searching protocols https://pastebin.com/raw/JuK0xUDb

 

Free image/video screenshots, download, production tools

* Image screenshots PrtSc/snipping tool + MS-Paint https://youtu.be/KvXxCE1gxOE

* 8kun video limits (~16mg) >>8760

* Bandicam Screen Recorder >>8759, >>8762 (also: OBS, Kdenlive, Audacity)

* YouTube & Twitter (downloads plus cutting scenes from YT) >>14306

* Video downloaders: >>14237, https://www.downloadhelper.net/ ; Firefox/Opera: - https://technologyto.com/extractor.html

* VLC Player >>8714, >>8715, >>8766

* Windows Movie Maker for Win 10 >>8712

* NVidia cards (can screen-capture vids) >>8785

* Forensically (forensics magnifier) https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#forensic-magnifier

* ShotCut NLE (open source cross platform video editor) https://shotcut.org/

* MFFmpeg (decodes & plays any format) https://ffmpeg.org/

* Natron (cross-platform video compositor) https://natrongithub.github.io/

* Handbrake (good for transcoding) https://handbrake.fr/

* GIMP & GMIC (image editing) http://gmic.eu/gimp.shtml

* Invidio (copies YT vids, restricted or not, no ads or signup) >>8792

* NEW: Avidemux.org, VideoSmaller.Com (apps for making large files smaller) >>18286

 

Baker tips IRL

>>8829 Baker's Tips - Read me first

>>6331 #01 - Ghosting a bred

>>6331 #02 - Baker changes

>>6378 #03 - TOR baking

>>6651 #04 - Defeating shills with facts & humor

>>7339 #05 - Announce you're baking (#11 too)

>>6892 #06 - Baking/note-taking protocols

>>7181 #07 - Use RED TEXT and BOLD in handoffs

>>7363 #08 - Try to notice when a cat is baking

>>13038 #09 - Respecting other bakers' notables

>>8174 #10 - Make sure to copypasta the whole page

>>8803 #11 - Announce you're taking responsibility

>>8822 #12 - Embed baker changes to provide more info

>>8824 #13 - Watch out for unknown bakers bearing gifts

>>8825 #14 - Use named pastebins to defeat shill complaints

>>8826 #15 - Responding to shills trying to suck up baker's time

>>8827 #16 - Be aware of muh joos bakers

>>8828 #17 - All bakers screw up

>>10445 #18 - Just do it--bake!

>>9590 #19 - Don't be afraid to bake

>>10789 #20 - Post notes early so changes can be made

>>10791 #21 - No /comms/ creates misunderstandings

>>10792 #22 - Defeat shills with humor

>>14835 #23 - Keep notables [from different bakers] separate

>>14836 #24 - Make sure to ask for Handoff Confirmed

>>14801 #25 - Don't fuck with the wrong baker [take a look - funny]

>>15894 #26 - Ignore end-of-bread antics

 

Baker stories & discussions

>>10114 How shills attack bakers--an example ("baker saves notables for his twats")

>>10787 LIVE example of picking up a mid-bread bake

>>10710 Why do you bake? >>10729, >>10731, >>10732, >>10744

>>14837 Forensic baking (Mini-study: who's been messing with the dough??)

>>14114 Editing PB notables, ok or not? Baker discussion >>14227, >>14248, >>14265

>>14943 What notables draw your interest and why, baker? >>14947, >>14968, >>14975, >>14983

>>15908 HOW-TO notables (Class #16) w/baker comments >>15032

>>17219, >>17235, >>17241, >>17242, >>17245 Bakers on ghosting

>>17353, >>17362 Baker shows how to update dough on a phone (<< first two posts, dialog continues....)

Anonymous ID: fca833 July 16, 2020, 12:48 a.m. No.19694   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Baking FAQs

Version 1.6

For step-by-step baking instructions, see page one of current baking seminar dough; baking section of /qresearch/ dough will also have a link. Link to Class #15: 14290

TWO MOST IMPORTANT FAQs:

  1. There is no baking mistake that can't be fixed. 2. Never panic, never tap.

 

Generally

What hardware/software is needed in order to bake?

Laptop or desktop (phonefagging hard for newbies & tablets lack power). The bigger the screen, the better. Text editor like Notepad++ (for PCs) or Atom (for Macs).

What other skills are good for a baker?

Patience, persistence, high tolerance for criticism, ability to say no to shills. Good enough typing to more or less keep up the pace.

What shift is good for a new baker?

A slow shift like late night to early morning (also, Q seldom posts then). If you take a faster shift, just tell anons you're new and you'll get support.

Bakers Tools

This is an independent tool that anyone can use, but you don't need it to bake.

Baking in TOR

TOR doesn't allow images but does allow embedded YT vids; use for General (Iwo Jima) image. There's usually a TOR vid in "Baking" section of the /qresearch/ dough.

Don't change previous baker's notables

Possible exceptions: bad links, spelling errors, when they give specific permission.

Baking everyday vs every so often

Whether you can bake a little or a lot, help is always welcome in the kitchen.

How to reduce baking stress

Practice first, develop routines, be prepared, stay calm, don't fixate on mistakes.

 

The Dough

The dough = first 4-5 posts/pages in each bread. Each post in one document separated by /////BREAK\\\ markers.

Organization

post 1 - Q posts, post 2 - Notables, post 3 - War Room, post 4 - QPosts Archives. Notables page can be broken into two pages on the fly if notable buns are long (even tho there's no BREAK marker).

Dough problems & change requests

New bakers sometimes inherit a funny-looking dough or are asked by anons to make dough changes. If you're not sure what to do, say so and defer to next baker. Often, bakers in the thread will jump in to help.

 

Practice Baking

You can practice bake in /comms/, established in 2018 by BO Rusty. After getting down the basic steps, try shadow baking (following a real bake to get the timing down).

Green text

In /comms/ practice bakes using Q Research doughs, links don't work and text is green.

Q&A & getting feedback

Practice bakers can ask q's by posting in the baking seminar thread or baker's Meta thread in /comms/.

 

Pastebin.com

What is pastebin.com?

An app/site that stores the dough so bakers can transfer it to next baker.

Do I need an account to use pastebin.com?

No, anyone can use it as a GUEST. You can also (optionally) add a pastebin name to identify your acct to anons.

How to make a new pastebin

Copy entire dough from text editor, upload to pastebin.com, select New Paste, paste in dough, select Create New Paste at bottom. See step-by-step instructions for more.

 

Notables

How to tell what is notable?

A few ideas: look for anon noms, Q decodes, POTUS tweets/retweets, planefag/boatfag reports, relevant news items (for breaking news, check qresear.ch to avoid dups).

Usually, memes are not notabled. Unsauced tweets & articles must be sauced first (quality matters).

How to format notables list?

Formats vary, but best to use bold orred text. Examples: 'Early notables', 'Notables @200', 'Notables #11956 @300'. ''Always link to dough post if ghosting after posting''.

How often do you post notables?

Often enough to give anons multiple chances to have their say about notable selection, some ideas:

* 200, 400, 600 (plus a FINAL) or * 250, 500, Last Call around 640 (plus a FINAL).

If you take the bake late: Post notes as soon as you catch up or by @600 at the latest (so anons know you're still there).

Max number of breads in Previously Collected Notables?

4 - 5 lines. To make room, just delete the bottom line(s).

Anonymous ID: fca833 July 16, 2020, 12:48 a.m. No.19695   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Timing Issues

What do I do after accepting the handoff?

Most bakers start by finding/copying pastebin (check Dough post first); prepping Create a Thread; and doing a quick dough check to make sure everything is ok. Then start collecting notables. Later, bakers will need to check bread title (update?), check notables page (more room needed?), and transfer notables from text editor to dough.

When to post a final notables list?

Depends on bread speed but usually around 680 - 710.

How to keep up with notables during fast breads?

Depends how fast. When Q posts, priority is on grabbing Q drops, not notes. During fast non-Q breads, focus on skimming off the 'cream' and leaving the rest. Always try to include noms but only if they're high quality (from anons not shills). Practice makes perfect.

How long does a New Thread take to show up after I select Create a Thread?

30 - 60 seconds unless there's a severe lag. If lag is bad, let anons know and ask them to wait for new thread.

 

Handoffs & Baker Comms

Good /comms/ are critical for well-baked breads, so need to be clear & easy to find.

Showing baker or note-taker changes

Easy to forget but useful to showing who's responsible for which notables. Insert "baker change" or "note-taker" at the point when the change occurs when recording notables.

Handoffs: call-and-response protocol

Baker announces he seeks handoff; available baker(s) announce they can bake; baker usually takes the first in line.

Example: B1:baker seeks handoff', B2:can bake, B1:handoff confirmed?, B2:confirmed, bread is mine

When shill activity is high, baker may be asked to produce a recent pastebin or other proof that he's legit.

Ghost bake protocols - ALWAYS TAG THE DOUGH POST!

When baker can't get a replacement, he may have to ghost the bread (leave it bakerless).

Example: B1:baker seeks handoff; will ghost @100, [no response], B1:baker leaving the kitchenghost bake

When another baker picks up the ghost:baker assuming responsibility.

Don't forget to TAG THE DOUGH POST so bakers arriving after @600 will know there's a baker (avoids dup bakes).

When there is more than one baker per bread

Two things to note:

  1. Ordering of notables (can be more or less "top to bottom" or "bottom to top"): Either use the same order as first baker or change his to match yours; try not to mix them.

  2. Use "baker change" to separate your work from first baker's. Don't treat first baker's notables like suggestions, respect them as if they are PB notables.

 

Making Reports and Global Reports

To report to BO/BVs, find little triangle on upper left of each post, select it, then use menu.

Use Report to ask BO to make bread changes that bakers can't make, e.g. changing a wrong bread number. You may need to do it more than once (or twice).

Use Global Reports for child porn (CP) or other illegal material. Someone is on-duty 24 hours.

Duplicate bakes

Use Report to ask for moldy bread to be locked and provide a link to 'good' bread.

 

Baking

See step-by-step instructions on page 1 of class dough. E-BAKE steps are there too.

To bake each page….

Divide bread into 4 posts by looking for /////BREAK\\\ markers. (For two-page notables, do it on-the-fly for page 2).

How to bake when the Catalog is down?

Use the Index (8kun.top/qresearch/index.html). You can Create a Thread there. Afterwards, locate your new thread this way: go past the pinned threads and the old thread; the new one is usually right after it. To "enter" that thread, click on the OP post number. (Allow at least 30 secs for new thread to appear.)

 

Baking Error Messages

Body too long

Happens when there are too many characters per post (maybe 5000) or too many lines (maybe 200). This seems to vary but gives you an idea).

Flood detected

Happens if you already posted same exact text (most common–if so, add a space somewhere). Can also happen during DDOS or when too many anons post at once.

Server took too long

Usual server response for /qresearch/ bakes (95% of bakes). Solution: WAIT AT LEAST 30-60 secs, then check the Catalog (should post despite the message).

Can be confusing for first-time bakers because this lag doesn't happen in /comms/.

SEE ALSO Crazy bakes >>9960

Anonymous ID: fca833 July 16, 2020, 12:48 a.m. No.19696   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Common Mistakes

Don't be afraid to make mistakes - all bakers make 'em (get used to it newbies!). Easy-to-make mistakes:

* Incomplete copypasta (not grabbing ALL the dough when baking for each post, so that top or bottom isn't there)

* Screwing up content or formatting for bread title (use Report to have BO/BVs correct).

* Not tagging the dough post in comms like handoffs, picking up a ghost bake or posting notes in a ghost bake

* Forgetting to use BOLD andred textfor handoffs, Notables posts, and other important comms

* Confusing "Create a Thread" in the Catalog with "Post a Reply" within a bread. (Avoid this by putting Create a Thread tab far away from tab with current bread.)

* Accidentally pressing Create a Thread before end of bread

(Solution: report premature thread to BO/BVs, post a link back to real bread, post an alert & apology to anons, then forget it & return to bake).

* Dough errors (Solution: generate new dough & post pastebin link in the bread. First-time bakers: just leave a message for next baker on the problem.)

 

Q Bakes & Other Fast Breads

Generally: When Q posts, drop everything and get to bottom of bread to pick up Q drops and put them in the dough. Pick up notes from there if you can. Bake EARLY - @630 is not uncommon.

Formatting Q drops & LINES

Check existing Q drops to see formatting; copy-pasta the LINES, don't try to do them yourself.

Cap for baker

Anons will usually post them for you. Search with F3 on the link or 'cap for baker'.

POTUS rally breads

These can be pretty speedy; bake early so anons have a place to post rally comments.

 

Dealing with Shills

Shills want a bread full of squabbling anons so that anons withdraw and good digs are overlooked. Just the presence of a baker deters them.

SEE ALSO "How To Quickly Spot A Clown" (last line of page 1 in /qr/ dough).

Telling anons from shills

Baker: "you can tell when a reasonable accommodation does not mollify." Posters who kvetch no matter what are shills, not anons.

Responding to shill tactics

Shills always test bakers, pressuring them on notables, dough changes, etc. If being reasonable does not work (see above), make a decision and stand firm with it.

Common shill tactics for screwing with bakers

Purposely leaving out dates on moldy notables; nomming a list of notables at end of bred; nomming hard-to-evaluate Q decodes w/no main point or title; including no sauce or crap sauce; burying bad stuff in the middle of a post (muh joos, etc), moaning about pb notables/asking for changes.

Anons do some of these things too but shills are more obvious about it.

Ways to respond when you're sure it's a shill:

* Generic shilling/spam: Generally ignore.

* When shills demand something: Respond calmly, with humor and facts, try funny memes to diffuse an attack (Left still can't meme).

Memes also tend to end the conversation. See Baker Tips for examples of how to outlaugh a shill.

* For a personal attack targeting you: If it's major, don't take that shit, fight back, it's war. Make the shill POS sorry he ever took you on with a powerful and meticulously documented, fact-based counterattack. Screencap the evidence. Remember, revenge is a dish best served cold.

Anonymous ID: fca833 July 16, 2020, 1 a.m. No.19697   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9729 >>9736 >>9747 >>9934 >>9953

Dough:

https://qanonbin.com/paste/2XsstObJK

 

Welcome to new & old bakers/note collectors. Also interested anon lurqers.

TONITE: Step by step baking plus how to verify baker id during handoffs (from Newsbaker).

Teach may have some additional things up his sleeve, kek.

 

Compiled the New Baker 'Tells' from last class

See >>19691 in #22 for current version.

Organized into 2 categories with ways to fix each problem, would like ideas/feedback plz.

gyb ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:02 p.m. No.19731   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9739

>>19727

Now if i don't disappear, i have some surprise refreshments if yer

hungry

like really hungry.

Coupla days ago, made a breakfast spread for hungry bakers early morning (late nite 4 me).

Thought i would whip up a few things for class today.

Got kind of carried away, but i figure bakers like to eat, right?

But there's a lot

Will try to leave room between courses.

 

Bon Appétit

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:06 p.m. No.19732   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9733 >>9740

Ten common "tells" that out new bakers

 

Focus mainly on specific acts that can be easily remedied (a) if new baker knows how (e.g., Global Report) or (b) baker realizes why they matter (e.g., tagging dough post).

 

Ten qwik 'n easy things to fix:

 

1 - using curly quotes from word processing programs to make bold

use text editors not word processors like Word

 

2 - copying the page breaks into the dough

know what they are and do not copy-pasta when baking! ////////////page 1\\\\\\

 

3 - for Create a Thread, using wrong bread number

check and double check bread numbers before baking

 

4 - not tagging the dough post when picking up ghost bake, making dough changes, etc. (see >>19341, >>19374)

always tag the dough if there's more than one baker!

 

5 - trying to type in the formating lines for each Q post

don't do it, uses special characters so just copypasta

 

6 - omitting the colon in the title after the bred number: Q Research General #12695 My First Bread Edition

easy to do but easy to forget - important for aggregators

 

7 - replying to own posts when generating the dough

just copy in order, no RT necessary; see >>19339)

 

8 - trying to replicate lines in Q posts from scratch instead of using copy-pasta

Here's a template: >>19379

 

9 - making page 2 notables post way too short (to avoid "body too long" message)

use two pages instead of one for posting notes

 

10 - trying to contact BO by posting a message in /qr/ (instead of using Report or Global Report)

use Report/Global Report; in menu to upper left of each post

 

Ten challenges re baking attitude & practices:

More subtle and often more challenging initially bc it takes time to develop good habits.

 

1 - remembering it's about service not ego (hint: don't get triggered!)

let go of small annoyances to maintain 40000 ft view

 

2 - using good handoff protocol (so the board knows who's baking)

learn it, use it, don't get careless - it's important

 

3 - not freaking out when asked to provide a qbin/pastebin for verification

know how it works and why we do it (to batten down the hatches)

 

4 - using pretty set formatting for notables on dough page 2 (not realizing aggregator needs)

practice bake using exact formatting you see in LIVE bakes

 

5 - reading prior breads before baking (see >>19292)

keep up on the news & notables before baking when possible

 

6 - using qresear.ch to check for dups

use it; it works (exception: fast breads, heavy news)

 

7 - avoiding "cut-pasta" instead of "copy-pasta" (suddenly, your notes or dough - GONE!)

do enough practice baking to get 'muscle memory' to kick in b4 going LIVE

 

8 - strict "hands off" policy re notables of another baker (except for accuracy when needed)

essential for trust; really try to avoid(not true for note collector notables, can be edited)

 

9 - being careful about accuracy with notables (we can't change 'em so sauce really matters)

check for sauce & sauce quality; look for multiple reports of breaking news

 

10 - avoiding dreaded double-spacing of notables (happens when baker uses copy-pasta straight from dough instead of pastebin)

learn how to upload/download dough from pastebin/qbin

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:08 p.m. No.19733   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9734 >>9737 >>9739

>>19732

Did ya'll see this?

Posted it LB.

Split the list into two categories:

  1. tells that are just little things new bakers do that can be fixed if they know the technique

  2. tells that are more like a lack of baking experience (not having good habits, situational awareness, etc). These take time to learn, no qwik fix in most cases.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:11 p.m. No.19735   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19729

Looks tasty.

But I'm gonna have just a nibble for now

So i don't R U I NNNNNN muh appetite.

 

For early comers, i thought a nice healthy fruit cup would be a good start.

(Besides, it's the last healthy thing yer gonna see, so…..)

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 4:11 p.m. No.19736   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9738 >>9739 >>9747 >>9749 >>9802

>>19697

Evening All - Welcome to the class

Good to see you all and thanks for coming to class.

Anyone here to learn to bake tonight?

 

>>19697

Good evening baker, thanks for doing all the notes from last week (will check em out and feedback - lookin' good), for the awesome dough and for making the thread. FOOD?! Can't wait to see whatcha got.

Thanks for organizing the class schedule, I took some time off so didn't catch you for a plan. Sounds perfect. TY

Big thanks to nb as well.

 

>>19729

Now you're talkin. That's the fried fish you get every week for the g's? Man I wish I was at your place rn.

 

>>19730

Hey kb, how's tricks?

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:14 p.m. No.19737   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19733

>>19734

Ya know what's interesting?

I thought awhile back about doing a "baker traditions" list that would capture the general way we do things here. Not by myself but by asking bakers what they thought.

 

That second list has a lot of those baking traditions incorporated. New bakers don't know about some of this stuff unless they're oldfags who have paid attention to what happens in the kitch.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:16 p.m. No.19739   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9742

>>19736

Hey Teach.

Did catcha b4 class by newb is gonna do a 'guest presentation' after 8 on how to verify during handoff coz there were q's….hmmm…sometime, last night?

So he'll be here later for that.

I also made list from last week's discussion

>>19731

if anyone has anything to add or more comments/ideas.

Organized like this:

>>19733

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 4:20 p.m. No.19744   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19738

Absolutely. Gotta look after ourselves not to burn out. Time off is great. It's good you're gonna take some. A few days even does the world of good, for the head and the rl job list at the same time.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:24 p.m. No.19748   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19740

ya never know, usually something's left out

why it's good to hive mind

 

now…..everyone finish their fruit cup?

Now for the CEREAL course

which is still disgustingly healthy

but just a warm-up.

We have for you three presentations

There was the possibility of CHOCOLATE cereal but i elected to save it for the chocolate course…..

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:27 p.m. No.19750   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9751

>>19746

gyb is hard to miss

shills got their knickers is a proper twit last night

dindu nothin' and they be "gyb this", "gyb that"

so i left

by the time i came back (bread was ghosted)

everybody happy to see baker

ha-ha-ha……

Anonymous ID: 739682 July 16, 2020, 4:32 p.m. No.19759   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9764 >>9766 >>9767 >>9770 >>9771 >>9778

>>19749

I've done three bakes so far. First one graveyard #12608 that I admit I got in a hurry and left the back end off. Second was for the Kaiserreich German board that had sat at 751 for a few days. Third one I recently did UK #19.

What I need to know is if I pick up a ghosted bake on graveyard and Q starts posting how do I get that into the header of the next bread? I will have to see about later doing breads at night where I will need to do a handoff. Without resorting to a pastebin ID, since I use the qanon.bin anyway, how do I let actual bakers know it's me the better at boatfagging amateur?

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:34 p.m. No.19763   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19755

franklin was bakin' when i came in

got confused about green text q notes being removed

somebody thought i removed them?

maybe a shill said so

of course there's nothing wrong with that

but anons seem to feel like it gives a connection to Q

they really wanted them back

i wouldn't have realized

coz when you baker, yer thinkin' a different way

about organizing the dough, keeping up to date, etc.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 4:36 p.m. No.19766   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19759

Hey bf, good to see you again. Kudos on your baking endeavors.

For the Q posts, here are some slides for you. Someone will probably note them in the thread and you can copy paste them into the top. The latest ones go at the top.

Hang on I'll get those slides for you and answer the rest.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:40 p.m. No.19771   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19759

Not likely that Q will post (although he obviously can)

>how do I get that into the header of the next bread?

well, you copypasta the Q posts on first page of the dough, right?

So you need to have the dough in a form where you can add stuff to it (in notepad++ for most of us).

Then add the Q drop using the format you see for other Q drops (just copypasta the lines - you choose the description & add caps if any).

>how do I let actual bakers know it's me the better at boatfagging amateur?

Newsbaker's gonna talk about that in about 20 mins, when he gets here.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:44 p.m. No.19774   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9818

>>19755

>>>19755

oh, you mean right now there's a faker baker!

But i felt like that mebbe actually happened last night

Or just shills sayin' "gyb took out Q's posts"

but wasn't there for that if it happened

But it's why i have the sense that something happened that i missed, wanna know what

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:48 p.m. No.19776   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9781 >>9827 >>9853

>>19773

TOR shill?

same one as was here last week?

Never got around to asking Rusty about whether ok to ban TOR users (there's a warning but it's prolly just bc TOR can be used by multiple anons - only here, it's just used by shillanon so far.) if banned, i'd only ban for class time anyway. Also realize could just CAP his spam posts, delete the originals, and do a CAP post at the end. Nothing lost but nothing interfering with class.

doc ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 4:50 p.m. No.19778   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19759

put three apostrophes, Day, Date then three more apostrphes Thursday July31, 2020

hit enter, next line

post # line---—description (Cap: post#)

 

add Q's to the top, they are stacked last in on top, hence many of us stack our notables same way

 

save these lines, we all use the same to copy into Q's because they are asci, keep them handy in your notepad++

 

————————————–——– (Cap: )

 

rt ————————— (Cap: )

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 4:51 p.m. No.19779   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9780 >>9785

>>19765

faker baker can be a problem

bc we have no way to tripcode on qr

so impersonators can impersonate

if you guise ever see anyone trying to pretend to be me (like TOR guy), can you post a link or cap on baker META, so I can catch it and challenge the fucker next time he attacks?

gb ID: 9db243 July 16, 2020, 4:53 p.m. No.19781   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9785 >>9829

>>19776

most likely same one.

I wouldn't touch the ban hammer and it would isolate all TOR users if not mistaken-probably not what I would do with the current problems at present

It's highly annoying and I share your look on it.

It would cause other problems though.

>>19777

chek't and same here.

Anonymous ID: 739682 July 16, 2020, 5 p.m. No.19783   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9796

>>19782

Take a look at what I have set up for the UK so far. I added the notables called to me from 18 during 19. How's it look? Not on UK bread yet waiting for 100 post count

 

Global Announcements

 

>>9822979 BO: After Q posted that long letter CM reminded me there is a setting that allows for longer posts. looking into it

 

Notables are NOT endorsements

 

#19

>>9963586 Video re: Embankment Pics plus

>>9970850, >>9970873, >>9971484 Night aerial pics London with building Identifications

>>9976896 From General: Boris Johnson proposes moving HOuse of Commons to York

>>9977735 Dr Julian Lewis defeats Government's candidate for the Intelligence and Security Committee

>>9979064 Vaccine Choice Canada files suit re: Covid-19

 

#18

 

>>9775588 Hampstead Girl Testimony

>>9775597 Hampstead Boy Testimony

>>9778598 Mark Sedwill - Cabinet Secretary & National Security Advisor quits

>>9779041 This is why liberals hate Putin so much video

>>9816964 "Theresa May's Father The Serial Killer, The Traveller's Daughter, and the Cover Ups "

>>9823376 A top-secret communications system used by criminals to trade drugs and guns has been "successfully penetrated", says the National Crime Agency.

>>9825486 Police have arrested 746 suspects in UK's biggest ever crime operation

>>9831476, >>9875324 Real or fake? Pope Benedict XVI exiled?

>>9832333 Call for links to Breads #14, #15, & #16

>>9838680 Pic of Ghislaine Maxwell and Rupert Murdoch together in New York, Septmber 2010

>>9840291 The Plot thickens "Royals and politicians are among celebrities and wealthy business figures who used the SAME secret phone network as hundreds of crime kingpins as UK police smash encoded EncroChat app

>>9841377 Mark Sedwill Order of Saint Michael

>>9858717 Real or Fake? Needs "Eyes On"

>>9866771 Baker call for Notables Breads #17 & #18

>>9875030 Ex-head of MI6 Sir Richard Dearlove says coronavirus 'is man-made' and was 'released by accident' - after seeing 'important' scientific report https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8386235/Coronavirus-man-says-ex-head-MI6-Sir-Richard-Dearlove.html

>>9875594, >>9875675 Recorded Thames tides for December 2013

>>9875866 Recorded Thames tides for January 2014

>>9876044 Recorded Thames tides for February 2014

>>9876309, >>9876346 Recorded Thames tides for March 2014

>>9879187 Ghislaine Maxwell, two links, with Kevin Spacey at Buckingham Palace and with Bill Clinton on trip to Britain

>>9882440, >>9887547 Keep Britain Free lawsuit, sauce in second post

>>9887424 Q Posts re: UK/LONDON First Draft

>>9891156 Q Posts re: UK/LONDON Second Draft

>>9892793, >>9892793 Westminster Flood Map, North and South elevations, Victoria Embankment (2013), Parking Zone Map, Westminsetr Parking Restrictions 2013

>>9892824 UK remain campaign strategist to head hong kong pr push

>>9896203 Q Posts re: UK/LONDON Third Draft

>>9896296 Leviathans of British establishment labelled China's useful idiots

>>9900796 Stellarium projection of 23 October 2013

>>9905916, >>9906382, >>9907999, >>9908184 BBC urged to remove sculpture of naked boy from outside Broadcasting House because creator raped his daughters

>>9906221 Link to all IICSA "inquireries" re: pardophile filmed attacks at town hall

>>9913564 Fourth civil servant has quit in the space of five months

>>9916367 UK government to invest in elite sex-parties firm, with taxpayer holding equity stake

Addtions at #19 from #18

>>9946255 WANING GIBBOUS Moon dig re: London Pics Timeframe

>>9944800, >>9945136, >>9945290 A timely post re: Bollards and London Pics Timeframe

>>9946556 Looking at the 77 Brigade and their mascot, a Chinthe

>>9946876 "Every knew" about Leicester sweatshops

>>9947312 Trump to Boris Johnson "Bring back Steele!" - Duran

 

#1 through #18 courtesy of GermanArchiveAnon:

 

UK bread #18: https://qanon.news/archives/x/9768751

UK bread #17: https://qanon.news/archives/x/9566053

UK bread #16: https://qanon.news/archives/x/9344953

UK bread #15: https://qanon.news/archives/x/9285090

UK bread #14: https://qanon.news/Archives/x/9099370

UK bread #13 https://qanon.news/archives/x/9344953

UK bread #12 https://qanon.news/archives/x/9285090

UK bread #11 https://qanon.news/archives/x/7887749

UK bread #10 https://qanon.news/archives/x/7515739

UK bread #9 https://qanon.news/archives/x/7354957

UK bread #8 https://qanon.news/archives/x/7307489

UK bread #7 https://qanon.news/archives/x/6666569

UK bread #6 https://qanon.news/archives/x/6350212

UK bread #5 https://qanon.news/archives/x/6045200

UK bread #4 https://qanon.news/archives/x/5936409

UK bread #3 https://qanon.news/archives/x/5889157

UK bread #2 https://qanon.news/archives/x/5686781

UK bread #1 https://qanon.news/archives/x/5126595

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 5:02 p.m. No.19786   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9789

>>19780

>din believe him, on one can imitate

you neither

but ya never know doc….

gotta watch 'sup.

BTW, got somethin' a little special for ya

later in the breakfast.

But ya gotta eat yer eggs first (if yer not stuffed with that great-lookin' fish).

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 5:04 p.m. No.19787   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9798

>>19785

hey doc, why take a laptop?

you can just bake on yer phone!

8 hours no problem, right?

well doc

mebbe you want a real vacation?

it'll work out, we can hobble along without ya if you fly the coop for a few

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 5:07 p.m. No.19790   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9805

>>19785

Bro, that's amazing he's still up for it. What a hero. Man… respect… and to you for doing it. I remember one time you said to me 'love em while you got em', and it's something I remember daily when with mine. That's gonna be a special one. I would say don't take the laptop and spend every moment you can enjoying with them. We'll all be here when you get back and you'll be all fresh. Anons always step up.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 5:10 p.m. No.19796   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19783

Looks perfect from here. Nice job.

Nothing I can suggest that would improve it.

If being picky I'd say to condense some of the longer headlines/descriptions. Just makes it look tidier.. but that's just a tiny thing.

Kudos

doc ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 5:11 p.m. No.19798   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9813

>>19787

like I can't hardly text, sitting down at the desk with the light on and muh glasses

the whole touchy smart shit

was guud wit a qwerty though

I don't take time off less I gotta, you know that but I gotta, kek

will be replaced in no time

kek

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 5:12 p.m. No.19801   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9812

>>19791

'specially if yer not into mask wearing

at least around

went to the park yesterday

you'd think it was just for six year olds

to judge by all the signs

"keep moving" (people were sunbathing)

"beach closed" (at least 100 people in the water)

"parking lot closed" (a few moved the barriers and snuck in anyway)

"no biking/skating on the path" (they used the closeed parking lot

"one way loop" (good luck with that, path so broad you could use it for Star Wars walkers)

no boats for rent - people brought inflatable ones

doc ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 5:15 p.m. No.19805   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9833

>>19790

he's a fighter, it's guud, figured out how to get his seat to recline, told him we'd stop whenever he needed, made the reservations and he's not changed his mind so off we are gonna go, wasn't kidding about love em while you got em

gb ID: 9db243 July 16, 2020, 5:19 p.m. No.19812   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9841

>>19801

ours are empty and the ones I do see are all masked up.

It's quite sad really.

although I have seen an attempt at kids summer programs.

I've not seen the beach with own eyes so can't speak to that much but there are people on it

d2l ID: 9e534e July 16, 2020, 5:21 p.m. No.19816   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9821 >>9825 >>9836

Sup class just checkin in to say hi , been workin' hard to help as many hrs as I can and keep the wheels on the ship. Only gt one chance one time to be here and work. Thanks for all you do frens you all make my day .

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 5:22 p.m. No.19819   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19807

Yep, good day except for board going down for hours and muh internet as well….IRL excellent tho.

Member when i served ya'll that breakfast the other day? I'm doin' an expanded version for class. Did you eat yet? Hope you got room for an after-dinner snack. (hobbits' 'second breakfast').

Rusty ID: 173579 July 16, 2020, 5:24 p.m. No.19827   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9853 >>9872

>>19776

I shut off TOR posting here at /comms/ due to that very question.

can't ban just one

 

IF any baker wants to practice TOR baking it can be turned back on easily.

until then I see no real use for TOR posting here at /comms/

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 5:26 p.m. No.19832   🗄️.is 🔗kun

PANCAKES incoming….

but be warned.

Still have several moar courses to go.

German pancake on bottom looks good, but why the stemmed fruit? Some photographer's idea of 'yummy breakfast'?

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 5:31 p.m. No.19841   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19812

Yeah, lotsa sucky stuff goin' down

but we don't get much real summer weather here

and people are outdoorsy

so they do go to parks and put up with juvenile signage.

this was a lake beach, but very nice

very popular around here

was happy to see a little non-compliance

skateboarders and bikers wanna MOVE

swimmers wanna SWIM

that's healthy!

d2l ID: 9e534e July 16, 2020, 5:34 p.m. No.19849   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9858

>>19836

Hi Superteach !!!! Always like to drop in and see what's the subject and say hi to all my Anon worker fam love you fags no homo. The rewards of baking are wowo not from this World but we are making this World change it's truly 5D thanks ya'll. Moar bakers come and learn it's fun they said !!! See what I see thanks to the knowledge from the board and help from above .Out of this world rewards You got to have faith to be a hardcore worker for Q!!!!!! They all givin up on it.. NOT ME . See you when you need help the most I will be there.

Rusty ID: 173579 July 16, 2020, 5:42 p.m. No.19873   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9878 >>9879

>>19842

greetz

 

>>19843

hay GYB

good to be here,

BTW, wanted to say you doin real well in the BV shoes

 

>>19844

G'd evening

looking forward to your thoughts

 

>>19846

kek

outta practice for sure

 

>>19852

all of 8kun was down for several hours today

 

>>19853

my thoughts too…

 

AND if any baker does want to practice TOR baking or a class in TOR baking it's easy to turn it back on

 

and ya, the strategy of cap post(s) then delete posts, then post caps… has it's merits

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 5:43 p.m. No.19874   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9882 >>9890 >>9901 >>0047 >>0537

>>19844

 

Why do bakers verify who they are handing off to?

 

To try to make sure we're not handing off to a shill (or an unprepared noob during fast bakes).

There might be other reasons but that is the main one that I'm aware of and that makes sense to me. Bakers like to know they're handing off to someone who will take good care of the dough.

 

When 8bit was BO of qresearch and it snowed uphill both ways to school and back, he and his BVs used to help bakers out a bit by looking at the post history for a user's IP address.

 

Identifying users across threads like this is something that only BO/BVs can do, but it makes it easy to tell whether someone is a shill or not. If someone is on a VPN that switches IP addresses every so often, then this method won't work anyway.

 

This was also a lot of work for BO/BVs and it's really something the kitchen should be able to handle by itself.

 

Next up: some ways that bakers have kept a work history and verified it so far

 

So far I am just rehashing stuff you probably already know, feel free to chime in at any time

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 5:47 p.m. No.19878   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9913

>>19873

>doin real well in the BV shoes

meaning no other threads screwed up lately?

ha-ha-ha

TOR shill last week kept going on and on about 'muh power' as BV

Like we got the nuclear hot button around here

Was shocked to see an actual report listed today. Doesn't seem like much, but then - /comms/ ain't exactly /qr/

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 5:50 p.m. No.19884   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9893 >>9897

>>19875

But you'll notice there is something missing here. A favorite dessert ingredient not present in this fruity selection. What could it be?

CHOCOLATE

(finally something that really deserves some red text)

For all of you choco lovers out there - her ye be.

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 5:53 p.m. No.19890   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9893 >>9895 >>9913 >>9914 >>0047 >>0537

>>19875

Those look good. I'll have one of each, except the first one.

 

>>19874

 

Verification usually also means keeping a work history and proving that you are the person associated with that work history.

 

What are some ways that bakers have kept a work history and used it to verify their handoffs so far?

 

  • pastebin.com

  • a private board that only a single baker has access to, combined with an 8kun tripcode

  • qanonbin.com

 

One verification method that I haven't seen used, but would work just fine, is something like a dedicated verification thread here on /comms/ and using that + a tripcode to confirm their posts.

 

What do these verification methods have in common?

 

Some secret piece of info that only I have (usually a password) and proof that I just used that password to confirm my identity somewhere.

 

  • pastebin.com: I have a user account there, and no one else has access to the password associated with that account. Some of my past bakes are linked to this account: https://pastebin.com/u/newsbaker

  • 8kun private board: I don't have one of these, but kekbees does. The secret info used here is the password that generates kekbees' unique tripcode, and the password he uses to get access to the admin interface as BO and make sure that only he can post on the >>>/doughlist/ board.

  • qanonbin.com: I have a password there, which is used to generate my tripcode. Some of my past bakes are linked to this tripcode: https://www2.qanonbin.com/trip/k9VsKvRBTand

  • verification using any 8kun board that allows tripcodes: the secret info I use for verification is the password that generates my unique tripcode.

 

We'll look at examples of each of these verification methods in a bit.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 5:59 p.m. No.19895   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0047

>>19890

>One verification method that I haven't seen used,

 

This is kinda of unfortunate; this method works well enough for bakers getting feet wet. Then if they decided to keep going they could just apply for a board..

 

That's what I did. And Rusty is gracious.

d2l ID: 9e534e July 16, 2020, 5:59 p.m. No.19898   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19891

were all putting in lot of hrs during this last phase it's been very challenging making it happen here and keeping sane in the "world" in every way imaginable . I am sure you all have your own story's going on . What a time to be here .

 

>>19892

U guud it's inspiring me to find the nearest dunkin donuts actually

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 6:02 p.m. No.19901   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9903 >>9904 >>9906 >>9925 >>0047

>>19874

Will add in between - how did they do this?

BO and BVs can see our post history, as each post we make through the same IP address is turned into a unique 'hash' - a numbers n letters sequence that they can see, along with our past posts.

It isn't 100% failsafe, as anons can be using the same VPN and therefore the same IP addy of that connection.

Anons also change IP's legitimately (on mobile connections, travelling, reset routers), so if you change IPs the hash history is gone on the chan.

But can confirm - a hash check was used by 8bit when we came to the QR board, after a while, to verify bakers when the kitchen was experiencing shill bakes. Bakers could still be anon.

Rusty ID: 173579 July 16, 2020, 6:11 p.m. No.19913   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9925

>>19878

>see an actual report listed

 

??

 

>>19879

ya, the world feels empty without this place

 

>>19886

ya, same, I could get catalog (with #12771 stuck at 640), the index (also frozen) and the bread but nothing was live and /comms/ gave me an error when I tried to access it

 

>>19890

>One verification method that I haven't seen used, but would work just fine, is something like a dedicated verification thread here on /comms/ and using that + a tripcode to confirm their posts.

 

this thread >>5101 might work?

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:11 p.m. No.19914   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9927 >>9934 >>9952 >>9953 >>0047 >>0537

>>19893

 

Example verification using pastebin

 

This is from last night, bread #12764 post >>>/qresearch/9974233

 

This is a correct and valid verification using pastebin.

 

There was some confusion about this because of the content of the pastebin - it contains links to wnb's dough buns.

 

But the content of the bin doesn't matter. Let's take a closer look at why:

 

In >>19890 I said the two elements of a successful verification are some secret piece of info that only one person has (usually a password that's used to log in to a known account or generate a known tripcode for that person) and proof that the account holder just used that account to confirm their identity.

 

  • Secret piece of info that only one person has - Pastebin user cfranklin88 obviously did make this pastebin at some point. You can also click on their username to go to https://pastebin.com/u/cfranklin88 and see their paste history.

  • Proof that the account holder just used that account to confirm their identity - for this, we compare the timestamps between the handoff post on 8kun and the pastebin. There is a difference of just a bit less than 1 minute between these timestamps.

 

This baker copy/pasted the dough post from the current bread into his verification bin, that's why you can see the post number, quoted posts, timestamp, etc, and also the original bins for that bread's dough.

 

This does not matter - the content of the paste could literally be empty and it is still a valid verification, because we have (1) proof that a known person used a known account and (2) proof that the account was used at the same time of the handoff offer + verification.

 

Hopefully this makes sense. Summary: the right thing to do when evaluating a verification is to completely ignore the content of the pastebin itself, and look at the username, the past history of that username, and the timestamp of the pastebin in relationship to the post offering a handoff.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 6:12 p.m. No.19916   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9930

>>19903

That would be true. Always good OPSEC to change IP's and use a VPN, so that's always changing.

What was freaky sometimes with 8bit and the BVs at the time (LEAF inc.) was that they sometimes posted a cap in the general, of all of someone's posts (or posts from the same IP). It made everyone wary. It was shills of course but still…

I change IPs all the time b/c travel a lot and for OPSEC, that's why I was glad I had my pastebin, which before had been only for personal archinve purposes. B/c I'd no hash history and one time was refused the bake so verified it was me through the pb.

PhoneD2l ID: 0d6433 July 16, 2020, 6:15 p.m. No.19924   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9935 >>9939

Yo my home internet is down. Not sure if il be back online before the next bread starts. Il check in when im back online see if the baker needs help. Weird internet outage im phonefagging now

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:16 p.m. No.19925   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9936 >>9942 >>9955

>>19899

Probably contains Monsanto. No offense but fuck Monsanto.

 

>>19901

>BO and BVs can see our post history, as each post we make through the same IP address is turned into a unique 'hash' - a numbers n letters sequence that they can see, along with our past posts.

>It isn't 100% failsafe, as anons can be using the same VPN and therefore the same IP addy of that connection.

Good info, thanks for the clarification here.

 

>>19903

>ip hopping is guud then because the shill bakers that track us can't lock in

Personally I have seen no evidence that anyone is tracking me based on my activity on 8kun. "normal" 8kun users do not have the ability to do this, and even BO/BV level users do not have the ability to trace an IP hash back to a real IP address. but I think diagnosing and working around common tech issues would also be a good thing to discuss.

 

>>19913

>this thread >>5101 might work?

Yep, something like that. I suspect it might work out better over the long term to have one thread per baker - like what kb does but all on the same board. But we have other methods also, and none of this is intended to force anyone to do anything.

Rusty ID: 173579 July 16, 2020, 6:17 p.m. No.19928   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9943

>>19915

there is no way for a BO or BV to see an actual IP of a post.

The board is set up to provide unique "hash" to identify each poster.

To my knowledge the only people who can get to the actual IP address of a post is Ron and the 8kun admin team.

Anonymous ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 6:18 p.m. No.19930   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19916

I remember seeing the post of those hashes and thinkin I didn't like it at all

BV's were evil, from my standpoint, I understand there was need but that was an invasion privacy

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:19 p.m. No.19934   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9937 >>9945 >>9948 >>9951 >>9953 >>9956 >>0047 >>0537

>>19927

Yeah, actually would be good to talk about "inexact" or "human" methods of verification after covering the "exact" or "technical" ways.

 

>>19914

 

Example of an incorrect/invalid verification using pastebin

 

-—-

 

>>19697

Hey baker I can take this one.

https://www2.qanonbin.com/paste/9Ccobresa

Handoff confirmed?

 

-—-

 

Can anyone spot the problem with this?

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 6:20 p.m. No.19936   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0047

>>19925

 

I've found the shilling seems to follow a shift pattern.. But you can get a shill that "remembers you" soo you will get targetted… Until they get moar pissed at someone else.

 

That happens with alfb.

 

so imo, it's only because that shill's got an axe to grind, moreso than some agenda.. That's the way it's felt to me anyway..

Anonymous ID: 078c7b July 16, 2020, 6:25 p.m. No.19949   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9957

>>19838

Evening Rusty and everybody, Hope your all well.

Wanted to use comms to practice, since almost setting everything up on my end. Was wondering if you would clear my excessive practice bakes over the next few days, please?

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 6:26 p.m. No.19952   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9960 >>0047

>>19914

>Summary: the right thing to do when evaluating a verification is to completely ignore the content of the pastebin itself, and look at the username, the past history of that username, and the timestamp of the pastebin in relationship to the post offering a handoff.

 

Excellent. Agree.

Only thing I'd like to add is that the content can make it easy for a baker to quickly scan over and say yes, that's what I just posted a minute ago.

That can't be duplicated (unless the exact same text has been posted before - but if it includes times and reply posts - impossible).

 

Example - This has to be this baker, which anyone can see w/o looking at the timestamps.

No-one else but this baker could post this bin.

https://pastebin.com/gQTbxy9P

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:27 p.m. No.19953   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9959 >>9966 >>9990 >>0047 >>0537

>>19945

Right, not just a baker's dough, but anyone can pull up an old verification bin from the list.

>>19948

Right, the timestamp is the key here. When we're checking a handoff with verification, the main thing we should be looking for is a fresh paste.

The content of the verification paste can literally be empty, that doesn't matter, as explained in >>19914

 

>>19934

>>19937

 

Now let's look at the second verification method using a private board, and the details of how and why it works.

 

You may already understand all of this but I think it's a good idea to cover it precisely and try to lay out the details clearly.

 

Is this a valid verification by itself?

 

If so - why?

If not - what's missing in order to make this a complete verification?

 

——————

 

>>19697

 

Handoff confirmed?

 

Past bake history: >>>/doughlist/91

Tripcode validated here: >>>/doughlist/19

 

——————

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 6:28 p.m. No.19955   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9963 >>9967 >>0047

>>19925

one thread per baker seems practical

but only those who bake regularly would likely pursue this

one issue it brings up:

infrequent bakers getting miffed about being asked about previous bakes

get offended coz oldfag bakers ("i been here since the beginning")

not used to this approach

related thing to consider: how shills exploit any system we create (for anything really) to "prove" there's a bakers union

even if we have an open door policy

(where everyone can see what's posted, ie, in bakers meta)

shill was posting my comments from then in the general stream last night

and so was the grumpy baker who hates namefags night before last, ha-ha. he's ok but sure doesn't like being asked to prove he's ok.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 6:28 p.m. No.19956   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0026 >>0047

>>19934

Excellent.

Another example of an incorrect/invalid verification using pastebin

https://pastebin.com/u/NIghtBaker

 

(Unless I wanted to show someone I'd been trying unsuccessfully to verify) - I'm posting this asking that baker to check my previous bins to see that they verify - it couldn't be anyone else.

But a shill could post any of our pbs.

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:30 p.m. No.19960   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9971 >>0047

>>19952

>Only thing I'd like to add is that the content can make it easy for a baker to quickly scan over and say yes, that's what I just posted a minute ago.

Right. I haven't really said anything about how to offer a good verification yet, but that's pretty much the only thing I had to say.

 

I usually put "verify [current bread number]" in the bin content or title to keep it simple and make it super clear that it's a bin just for verifying a handoff.

 

It's a nice thing to do for other bakers, but not everyone understands this so don't get distracted by the paste content. Look at the user, the user's history, and the timestamps instead!

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:33 p.m. No.19967   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9972 >>9976 >>0000 >>0047

>>19955

>one issue it brings up:

>infrequent bakers getting miffed about being asked about previous bakes

>get offended coz oldfag bakers ("i been here since the beginning")

>not used to this approach

>related thing to consider: how shills exploit any system we create (for anything really) to "prove" there's a bakers union

Agree with all of this.

I think it should be up to individual bakers to decide whether we are going to try to verify handoffs - when the board is flowing nicely we probably don't need to be as anal about that. When shills are out en masse then that's the time to pay more attention.

My goal here is to lay out the details of how and why this should work in order to make verification foolproof for those who choose to use it!

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:42 p.m. No.19990   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0047 >>0537

>>19953

>Is this a valid verification by itself?

No, it isn't - this is usually what kekbees posts to offer a handoff, but anyone could copy/paste this text just like I did!

 

When you see >>>/doughlist/ links it's probably kekbees but you're still missing actual definitive proof that it's him. You're waiting for him to use his secret piece of info to authenticate his handoff post.

 

He should be posting a cap of his handoff post on his private board under the >>>/doughlist/19 thread, like the attached image.

 

Once you see that, you know it's really kekbees offering the handoff because this meets both of our criteria above:

 

  • It's definitely kekbees - he used his tripcode to post it, and he's got the >>>/doughlist/ board configured so that only he can post on it. I checked a while ago.

  • It's fresh - he capped his own post which he just made.

 

The caps also give kekbees and all the rest of us a way to look at his baking history. Pretty clever use of available tools, and this is a 100% foolproof verification method without using any external sites.

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:44 p.m. No.19996   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0006

>>19972

Good point.

I haven't seen anyone actually do this yet, but it's pretty easy to fake a perfect ( You ) cap of any post.

Takes a bit of effort and/or knowledge, but I don't consider this a fully trustworthy verification method.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 6:44 p.m. No.19999   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0012 >>0034

>>19988

I don't think we should be gatkeeping or being a closed group any more than necessary.

A dough can always be fixed, but creating a closed group causes all sorts of other issues imho.

I'm not going to be asking for verification from now on, for example. I think it's gone far enough and needs to be clawed back to how we were - organic.

PhoneD2l ID: 0d6433 July 16, 2020, 6:45 p.m. No.20001   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19980

>>19975

Its been an amazing ride full of everytype of winning and losing. Q wins in the end that's the main goal. Would not trade all this and it for the World guise. We were made for this time. Superpower Anons are saving the World. Doing our little part helping in the bakery its really a great honor. Keep up the fight we will heal later the World needs us nyao!! Bakertards…….we ride

wnb ID: f38d61 July 16, 2020, 6:46 p.m. No.20004   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0009 >>0013

Alright, I’ve shitpost’d enuf for a Thursday night. Throw’n in the towel. gyb, members see you earlies. cakes, luuk’n forward to the checkin. KB and gb, see you when you get the sleep outta yer eyes.

 

Guud to hang with muh bakerfam. patriots all.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 6:47 p.m. No.20006   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0026

>>19996

even easier than forging a you is this: any time you are forced into using raw evidence as a proof authorship, it a losing battle because the proofs are just burned in a singleuse way.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 6:49 p.m. No.20010   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0015

>>19977

must remain for all-important bacon course, kek.

 

>>19985

musta been bad if yer marking the half-hour.

But then, it's always bad now. Mostly anyway.

They takin' out their misery on us. What an awful job bein' a shill- cp shilling the worst. They so fulla hate, spewing it everywhere.

PhoneD2l ID: 0d6433 July 16, 2020, 6:55 p.m. No.20025   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20018

Yep I love Q+and my anons and will always find time for this movement. You are amazing baker man i got tons of respect for all you bakes you really put in the hrs. Well get to the finish line eventually. Tyb

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 6:56 p.m. No.20026   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0033 >>0035 >>0047 >>0537

>>19956

>Another example of an incorrect/invalid verification using pastebin

>https://pastebin.com/u/NIghtBaker

Right, I've seen this before too.

 

>>20006

That's why if we're going to verify then we need to be able to generate proofs in real time.

I think all of us here "get" this intuitively.

 

Moving on…

 

Verification using qanonbin.com

 

This is pretty easy, just make a new paste:

https://www2.qanonbin.com/paste/lNxWKza8t

 

  • This paste uses newsbaker's tripcode, and you can see a count of how many pastes were made under that tripcode right away.

  • The timestamp matches up closely with this post apart from the time it took me to finish writing it

 

The only other thing I'd like to mention is that when you use any site to verify your identity, you are implicitly trusting that site's administrators to operate the site correctly without changing data around.

 

Using pastebin for verification: we already know they delete shit whenever they feel like it.

 

Using 8kun for verification: good choice if you don't mind the couple of extra steps to host a dough, you're just placing your trust in Ron which you already need to do in order to use the site.

 

Using qanonbin for verification: this means you are trusting me not to edit or delete anything. As a Free and Sovereign Citizen under God and the Constitution of the United States, I am telling you that I will continue to run qanonbin well, some will know that is not a thing to be said lightly but as always you each have to use your own judgment and discernment.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 6:58 p.m. No.20028   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20019

>unless a riot breaks out

….which does happen every so often

and means i stay til some verifiable baker arrives.

Bakers help stablilize things after cp attacks or other crap happens. Sometimes the board needs to settle and bakers help that happen, espec during gy when things can sometimes spin outta control.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 6:59 p.m. No.20031   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0042 >>0069 >>0074

>>20012

I've been thinking a lot about this and what's happened lately.

Here's what I'm going to do personally, from now on.

 

  • Stop verifying myself when offering to bake through my pb. I'll show baker who it is as I did before, without namefagging, tripfagging or pb. If baker doesn't want to handoff then fine. I'll chill, take the time off and/or pick up any bread when it's ghosted.

  • Stop asking the baker I'm handing off to for verification. If I'm unsure I'll stick around for their first bake, as before

  • Continue to backup new bakers and new bakers and stick up for them when/if they're being attacked

  • Fix the dough when I see it needs it

  • Continue to tend to the dough as I've always done

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 7:01 p.m. No.20034   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0041

>>19999

>I don't think we should be gatkeeping or being a closed group any more than necessary.

 

fully agree with this.

 

Have seen anons rally with no baker and still get notes into the ebake.

If I see a baker I think is good, I will reserve the right to choose who I want as the baker when I bake.

if I don't see any, a ghost will happen.

 

anons are fully capable of choosing the bread they wish to participate in. This is the polite way of saying "bread wars happen if a shit baker picks up the ghost, and it's bad enough".

 

Because that is how it is done with no mods. its all about the blessing, kek :)

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 7:02 p.m. No.20037   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0047 >>0053 >>0537

>>19927

>sometimes it's just a funny message to baker, if it's a friend

 

Human or "inexact" methods of verification

 

muh autism may be showing a bit here but I can't think of a better way to explain it.

 

Many bakers have a set of images they like to post. Many regular bakers can recognize each other through existing relationships whether on or off-board - if that works for you then great!

 

Personally I put caps of your own bakes with ( You )s into this same category because they are easily faked.

 

My recommendation would be don't treat this as 100% evidence - if you want to know for sure who you're handing off to, then offer and check verification using a known account and a recent timestamp using that account.

wnb ID: f38d61 July 16, 2020, 7:03 p.m. No.20039   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0044 >>0045

>>20027

If you need to yes. We spend a ton of time doing what we do. If you can’t get a single anon to take the torch forward then so be it. QR does not rest on our shoulders. We are merely stewards of information. And have answered a call to play a small part in a truly epic course of events. You have to be able to walk away, that’s the only way to stay healthy.

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 7:03 p.m. No.20040   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0065

>>20035

Happy to help, it bugs me to see things not going well and sometimes we are in a position to do something about those things.

Always open to suggestions for the site. One thing I've thought about adding later is a way to compare any 2 pastes.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:03 p.m. No.20041   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20034

Nice.

And yeah, to have full coverage takes responsibility away from anons.

When there's continuous coverage by the same people, anons and other bakers don't get a chance to step in, and no-one sees there's a need for more help. This is our third year. Someone has ALWAYS stepped up.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 7:05 p.m. No.20042   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0046 >>0055

>>20031

As i recall, the whole idea of verification arose after you and several others bakers (espec kb?) were dealing with constant problems w/dup bakes, etc., and losing sleep as a result of baking all the time.

So it was good to think about how to pin things down a little, at least until that problem passed. (as most do - bc everything here is cyclical)

once things have moved on, can relax verification if desired

but good to know how it works and that it is an option

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 7:08 p.m. No.20047   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0050 >>0052 >>0054 >>0059 >>0061 >>0062 >>0537

>>19874

>>19890

>>19893

>>19895

>>19901

>>19914

>>19934

>>19936

>>19937

>>19952

>>19953

>>19955

>>19956

>>19960

>>19967

>>19990

>>20026

>>20037

 

Bun of verification discussion

 

Summary:

 

When confirming a handoff to someone who has offered verification, look for a known user account and a confirmed recent use of that account that relates back to the handoff post.

There are many possible ways to do verification 100% correctly but all of them share these elements in common.

 

When offering verification, make a new bin for this purpose!

It's a good idea to be very clear about what you're doing ("verify handoff for bread 12345") and not include other bin links, but the content is not the important part of verification!)

 

I would post a pic of Forrest Gump saying "that's all I have to say about that", but unfortunately it seems like tom hanks is a satanic fuck so we'll skip that part!

 

Hopefully this was a nice mix of stuff you already knew, and stuff you knew but hadn't thought about in detail and precisely.

 

Any questions?

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:12 p.m. No.20052   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0066

>>20047

Invaluable presentation there baker.

To see each method explained and set out as you did I'm sure will help us all and the bakery run a lot more smoother.

So many mix-ups have been caused through bakers not knowing what to check for, or knowing how verification works, so I hope it all gets better after your presentation.

Thanks a lot. Appreciate your time.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 7:12 p.m. No.20053   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0060

>>20037

well, my 'funny message to a friend' was in response to your idea that content doesn't matter, just timestamp w/trip.

 

Yes, we hand off informally based on relationships, espec when things aren't too crazy. Shills are like bureaucrats - don't like that, gotta be 'fair' - treat everyone 'equally' (frens & strangers alike).

 

But goal is to create smooth-running board, and it's easiest when we know one another. I'll hand off to anyone tho – EXCEPT bakers who i see insulting anons or other bakers before they ask for handoff. Then I'll challenge - doesn't have to be formal either. Many ways to test a baker's motives (or at least whether they are easily offended).

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 7:13 p.m. No.20055   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20050

keks in REEEEEEEE

 

>>20042

>once things have moved on, can relax verification if desired

>>20046

>Now I hope for back to organic. I don't like what I've seen lately.

 

somewhat related, we have a few new-ish bakers who look promising but have their Ego set way too high. can that be taught? I am one of those "better with computers than people" so probably not the right person for that, kek!

 

until that situation passes I will probably also look for and ask for verification. how people respond to that question is telling in itself.

Anonymous ID: 739682 July 16, 2020, 7:14 p.m. No.20058   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0064

>>20046

One advantage I may have is I do try to keep tabs on both General and the UK threads. Easy enough to tell if it's me going to pick up the bake since there is a total of three boatfags for all the boards so if I have more than one post that looks like these, TA DA!

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:17 p.m. No.20060   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0063 >>0067 >>0089 >>0093

>>20053

Idk anon. A baker's mindset is naturally 'warrior' imo, and from what I've seen.

If someone's willing to put themselves into the arena like that, they're no pushovers. kek.

What I don't get is when bakers give new or anon bakers shit and get it back, then the bakers say they've a bad attitude.

Fuck, we all have attitude, it's the reason we're here, as front-line fighters.

Don't give it and then cry when you get it back.

franklin88 ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 7:19 p.m. No.20062   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0066

>>20047

Thank you newsb

I am grateful for the review and learning tech stuff

none of this is difficult which is why it's so confusing to me when anyone would pass it up and off

I appreciate the time you took to put it together and present it

just like qbin

I don't have your skillz but I work the one's I have hard, I understand that well

o7

franklin88 ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 7:22 p.m. No.20063   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0071

>>20060

I agree with that wholeheartedly

what I don't appreciate is the attitude thrown at bakers by new bakers wanting to bake

it's not a conquest, we aren't jousting for the fuckin dough, just ask

 

confirm handoff(do you confirm handoff?)

 

so simple

that is my issue

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:22 p.m. No.20064   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20058

Just checked your paste, bf.

It looks perfect from here, no points to bring up.

You know, why not make a thread with it here on /comms/, and you can see what it looks like when baked. I've done that often and it really helps, as you can't change it once it's baked proper. It helps you see any little things you could improve on.

You know the comms catalog to bake in?

Here's the addy if not. You can bake any amount of threads you like in it (thanks to the BO).

Ref

>https://www2.qanonbin.com/paste

/5eWNZglQz

Comms catalog:

https://8kun.top/comms/catalog.html

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 7:24 p.m. No.20066   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0072

>>20052

>>20054

>>20059

>>20061

>>20062

Thanks to all of you for following along and helping also!

 

>>20059

>I been making a new pastebin like that each time I verify for baker.

Yep many of us have been doing it for a while, but I hadn't seen anyone spell out that specific topic clearly yet, including how to know when and why it works, and when and why it doesn't work.

 

>>20062

>none of this is difficult

none of the things that bakers do while baking are really difficult individually but it is still about 100 different things to do at once. that volume of stuff is complicated no matter what you're doing, and regardless of what our frendly banned torfaggit says that is an accomplishment!

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 7:26 p.m. No.20067   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0075

>>20060

Yes, bakers are warriors. That's why i don't mind challenging - gotta be able to take a challenge wo/getting overly combative. Even when challenging, i'm pretty even handed.

And don't mind getting challenged either.

 

Generally pretty good with new bakers - patient. But they gotta respond when given feedback and some do not - mebbe bc they're trying to do the 'tough baker' thing. Which doesn't work for a newbie. New bakers gotta learn what they can and can't do without help.

 

If they wanna jump in and don't practice enough b4 baking - they make mistakes. If yer gonna jump in, fine, but ya gotta be able to take feedback coz yer gonna get plenty. And when yer baking live, it's gonna be public.

 

Maybe the biggest lessons to learn: how to take feedback in the big arena. Tough lesson but a good one.

doc ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 7:26 p.m. No.20068   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20056

I did that for a long time

2A for sure

daytime, well, I guess ghost is tapping, I just prefer to say tap in daytime, no confusion, I think mine comes from veli ghosting, saying self confirm and when no takers he came back, I'm not sure why, now that I think about kek

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 7:27 p.m. No.20069   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0080 >>0085

>>20031

 

for my own part, all at the same time:

 

-attacked by OSS for 3 weeks.

-(somehow) avoided wrap up smears, for 3 weeks.

-finally decided to claim entire post history to end the wrap-up bullshit, some of it deserved due to spamming the middle finger as a response, but, some of it prosecuted by you and the others, thinking I really was a shill.

 

right when I came back from a long hiatus.

 

soo.. no offense for my own choices, but the work resume made it so I could even continue to function on /qr…

 

no offense.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:29 p.m. No.20071   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0073 >>0078 >>0085

>>20063

I don't agree with that either and it makes me sad that new bakers are getting treated as they are lately.

Fuck, I don't know why you've stuck it out given how you've been harassed and attacked. (if this is you).

The handoff procedures, they're on a call and response, like military comms -

  • Baker requests handoff

  • New baker offers (doesn't confirm - that's up to the baker)

  • Baker confirms or not

  • New baker confirms they have it

 

So 4 comms, to save any confusion.

If any one is missed it's not a handoff.

It's good that bakers told you this rather than ignored you. I'm advocating for the harrassment of new bakers to stop btw.

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 7:32 p.m. No.20073   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0081

>>20071

>I don't agree with that either and it makes me sad that new bakers are getting treated as they are lately.

I agree with this too. "in-group bias" or preference for people we already know is a real thing. combined with disagreement over the details of things like handoffs and verification I think that explains most of it.

>Fuck, I don't know why you've stuck it out given how you've been harassed and attacked. (if this is you).

that's doc, check the ID. he did warn us! kek

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:35 p.m. No.20075   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0076 >>0095

>>20067

Challenging fair enough… I'd rather see support.

There are ways to give feedback, and lately I've been seeing bakers demanding that other bakers take their advice.

I say let new bakers learn from their mistakes without bakers interfering and being critical.

How does a baby learn to walk? By an adult shouting at them when they don't get it right first time?

By ganging up, shouting at them, demanding they do it right and criticizing them?

We all remember what it was like starting to bake. Not easy, right?

So who are we to make it MUCH worse by not supporting and demanding they do it 'properly' or not at all?

Who are we to give shit to other bakers and not expect it back from them? Then it's said they have an attitude problem?

I think there are much better ways to support.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 7:37 p.m. No.20076   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0083 >>0086

>>20075

 

Agree with this. Sure.. I'll tell a baker off, but it's also their bake, so bullying them for it is pointless.

 

Better for them to own it and have anons instruct them until they either hand off or ghost, like in the old days.

Anonymous ID: 739682 July 16, 2020, 7:38 p.m. No.20077   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0079 >>0082

The great and powerful TORshill hunts the fiendish Wu Mao. Dude tried it once with the "baker's union" on the UK board and only one anon went "hunh?" I see him as the teletubby that needs the helmet

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:40 p.m. No.20080   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0101

>>20069

I hear ya kb, and respect your own choices.

Don't respect the namefagging / tripfagging on an anonymous chan board, but that's your choice.

I'm the same, I keep my own counsel, my own archive as you are doing. I did it so I, like you're doing, could carry on baking here.

I respect and admire your use of the tools in such an ingenious way.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:43 p.m. No.20081   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0084

>>20073

>doc

top kek bro!

>>20074

Damn right bro. Back to ninjas, red waves, fucking funny memes to brighten our days and solid our relationships, make us feel good. To hell with this jail we put ourselves in (I take responsibility). So whatcha sayyo

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 7:49 p.m. No.20085   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0087 >>0092

>>20069

>attacked by OSS

yes, you two managed to create the historic '751' class bread!

by trying to help resolve that situation, brought attn to myself - and you know what happened next!

Got a little dose of it last night again from shills, happens periodically.

Don't blame you in the least, personal attacks are tough, even when we 'deal' with them.

 

>>20071

I was witness once when doc explained about this to f88 - and did a very good job of it, espec about how we ask for handoff, we don't assume it.

 

>makes me sad that new bakers are getting treated as they are lately

be careful coz your experience may not be everybody's. i've had to be very persistent to get a response from F88 - and i've been real patient. KB knows too - also been patiently helping this new baker. F88 now knows how to post the link for his notables, but that was a tough one. He did apologize for a mistake last night wo/being asked, which is very good. Next thing is learning to ask first (instead of after).

 

BTW, F said to me that he is not really a new baker, just no longer anon. But makes definite new baker mistakes. So not sure what he means. Am supportive and not negative with him, but he can just go off and do stuff wo/asking, doesn't say what he's doing or ask anyone what they think - like reverting the green links last night. And in the middle of a bake, that was rather strange.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:49 p.m. No.20086   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0094

>>20076

What i'm pointing to is theres a huge difference between ganging up and attacking a baker, than leaving it to one to 'advise'.

No legit warrior's gonna take shit in their bake from anyone, no matter who they are. And so it should be.

When a baker's bakin' they're bakin', and help is help, with notes, with Q posts, with gentle coaxing, but demanding and harassing? no fucking way.

teach ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 7:55 p.m. No.20092   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0097 >>0104

>>20085

I've seen everything that's been happening with f88, and have seen how you've been trying to help him but have you tried positive reinforecement rather than demands?

I don't think it's cool how you've been treating him. At all.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 8:04 p.m. No.20095   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0096 >>0099

>>20075

The guy I challenged recently insulted on-duty baker, he didn't need support - not new ("been here since the beginning"). Pretty sure he was in no way injured by the encounter, kek.

 

You haven't been around late night very recently, but i have and I've seen a lot. No regular baker has been mean to new bakers, the one you've helped or any others, haven't seen it even once. Just the opposite.

doc ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 8:08 p.m. No.20096   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0108

>>20095

one afternoon someone struck a nerve

I've been baking since the beginning, been away for awhile

I was like "then dues and respect for us mofo's who kept the board running while you ducked and ran when shit hit the fan"

they shut up

tired of that shit

glad Kbee let me know the score bout name faggin

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:09 p.m. No.20098   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Going anon now, should have done it earlier as this convo's not in teaching capacity.

>>20091

Now we talkin fo relz bro.

Blessed by infinite dubs.

o7

>>20093

Agree totally. What I've seen is baker going in fine but getting attacked, and so goes on the attack in return. Naturally.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 8:14 p.m. No.20101   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0105 >>0111

>>20080

the respect is mutual, thanks for the kind words.

 

as far as the imagefagging, well.. having to throw colors to bake has always sucked.

 

It always goes back to: Anons like to keep the door open, but when the kitchen gets raided almost every other shift, what do?

 

As far as what went on last night speficially, cfranklin88 deserved it. baked 2 duplicate bread with identical titles because of a frivolous dough problem. Then got shitty about it.

 

Then ghosted a bread later. that's just childish.

 

So yeah, I threw colors and told him off, and let him clean his own mess. Probably not muh best moment, but you learn, kek..

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:14 p.m. No.20102   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0111

>>20097

And he didn't make a mistake.

He saw the tor shill's post in the middle of his bake and he thought he'd been given a dodgy dough. No wonder the way the bakers have been treating him.

He realized and changed the dough to include Q posts, which is his perrogative. He's the baker. He's not on comms to know what was discussed and anons wanted them back.

For you to interfere, especially coming in and namefagging like you're an authority, demanding, didn't help imo.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 8:15 p.m. No.20104   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0109 >>0112

>>20092

The other time i had extensive interactions was when he screwed up the links 7x for notables but just kept saying he understood when he didn't. Tried to explain and even gave him the specific instructions you use to create page 2 in the dough. Tried many things including simply giving him the a corrected dough when he didn't seem to

understand, that's what we do for new bakers. Didn't use it, took four more breads to get things straightened out. Anons were a lot more critical than me.

 

BUT he does those links all right now, i check em and they are ok.

 

If you have a specific example involving me, i'm good if you wanna post it.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:23 p.m. No.20109   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0112

>>20104

Yes I saw that interaction and saw that you were getting no-where fast.

I think it's because you were demanding.

No anon would take a paste from another anon. Anons are sharp. Idk why you thought he'd take a paste from anyone and you just kept on getting angrier and more demanding.

That doesn't get you your own way.

It's no way to be. You don't have authority to demand anything from anyone (saying this as your friend).

The baker is baking and who knows who's trying to pass him a paste. We saw what happened lately with shills passing pastes.

In the end I think we can leave bakers to bake without interfering, demanding, pulling rank, pulling namefag, pulling harrassment, pulling ganging up…

Just leave them to bake.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 8:29 p.m. No.20111   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0116 >>0117

>>20101

Agree with your account.

 

>>20102

No, it was earlier that he made a remark about 'bad' dough - at the very beginning of the previous bred. Didn't say what he meant. I looked the dough and it looked fine (just didn't have green q drops). May have asked him what he meant but don't remember.

 

Re interfering, you'd have to tell me what you're referring to specifically bc I don't recall. I had a lot of shills on my back - who seemed to think i did something (removing green Q posts? still not know) when i wasn't even around all day - and was mainly focusing on them not on baker. They used my name specifically which is the only reason i announced myself.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:31 p.m. No.20112   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0119

>>20109

>>20104

And I saw you making a whole load of posts about the stuff you'd fixed / cleaned up.

Man… if I wrote every day about the stuff I fix / clean up I'd never have time to bake.

Bakers just do it / clean up / fix and no worries. But you told every shift which caused drama and distrust of that baker who imo was doing a fine job as a rookie baker.

I don't know why you feel the need to tell every shift what you've done to clean out the bread / shills / whatever

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 8:31 p.m. No.20113   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0115

>>20110

>>20107

 

I can't speak for 12ca36 but I read their statement in the context of a single ongoing bake.

 

It's the anons' bread, in that if the baker makes bad bread, the anons will go make a good one, and abandon that baker.

 

just like they do to the fake news on tv.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 8:33 p.m. No.20114   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0118

>>20100

News to me. I felt calm then, feel calm now. When shills attack by name, i always respond strongly. But was not upset then and am not upset now. With anybody or anything. Plz give specific examples, not sure 'sup.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:33 p.m. No.20115   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20113

>>20110

Agree.

WORD.

Anons will sort it out / decide.

To shield them from what's going on is wrong.

Let anons have control of their bread.

They don't take shit.

Leaves us to relax.

Anons will make the decisions.

No need to gatekeep.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:36 p.m. No.20117   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0120

>>20111

The thing was, baker looked at his kooked bread and saw the TOR post in the middle of it, as second post.

He thought someone had given him a bad dough, not realizing that it was TOR shill's post. Baker thought he'd baked it.

AND SO, he reverted the dough thinking he was doing right.

No ill-shill-stuff…

But then you came and attacked him, and said he had to revert it and was doing it wrong.

Dude was doing his best.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 8:39 p.m. No.20119   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0121 >>0122

>>20112

yes, re the bin links, i made the list to show baker the links that needed changing. another anon, not a baker, had also tried to give the correct info, but it was hard. Couldn't think of another way to show him and the correction needed to be made. He kept saying he'd made the corrections but had not. He copypasta'd five of the seven, missed the last two. Kept checking in (between night napping) until the last link was corrected. What else could have been done?

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 8:40 p.m. No.20120   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0123 >>0124

>>20117

>not realizing that it was TOR shill's post

>AND SO, he reverted the dough thinking he was doing right.

mistake - recoverable

<not responding to any questions about what happened

this is when I'm going to start making noise

as anon, hopefully politely

to me, this also means he won't learn from his mistakes

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:41 p.m. No.20122   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0130

>>20119

How about just relaxing and fixing it when you get baking?

Really… can someone not get to the notes w/o that special link?

It's really not important if it's wrong sometimes imho.

Likewise if someone doesn't handoff in bold or red text. I saw you attacking a baker for not doing that also.

As such, recommending that you chill out.

Still love you no homo.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 8:46 p.m. No.20125   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0126 >>0128 >>0129

>>20099

>Leave him be.

Don't treat this baker any differently than i would anyone else, baker or anon. You had this same conversation with wnb last week bc he saw something different than you did in what was going on. That's fine, we all have a different view.

 

If you were around and had a different opinion than mine, that's fine too. But what i would say to you is this: i don't have a negative attitude toward this baker. I did not from the start and do not now.

 

But will as a rule be persistent if there is a dough mistake or if there is something unclear (like what is mean by 'bad' dough) that needs to be clarified, so anons/bakers know what kind of dough problem he's referencing. Any anon has the right to seek clarification about that.

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 8:51 p.m. No.20127   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20123

bit of both

I try not to see questions or suggestions as attacks until it's blindly obvious that someone's being a fuckwit, and when people ask me shit about my bakes, I respond

even if they are being a fuckwit I'll try to see if there is anything legitimate in there that I can pay attention to

I pretty much expect the same behavior of others

I try to ask questions and give suggestions in a non-combative manner

don't always succeed at either side of that dilemma

I'll try to relax more

 

>But will as a rule be persistent if there is a dough mistake or if there is something unclear (like what is mean by 'bad' dough) that needs to be clarified, so anons/bakers know what kind of dough problem he's referencing. Any anon has the right to seek clarification about that.

still have to agree with this. I didn't see much that was really attacking in any of the recent discussions in the main stream

but each of us sees things that others miss, if you see specific posts that bakers would see as an attack, please do point it out

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:53 p.m. No.20129   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0146

>>20125

Okay, IF you don't have a negative attitude towards the new baker, why post in every shift what he'd fucked up on (rookie mistakes but you made it sound like on purpose - it wasn't)

And, why talk and gossip / laugh about him to others in /comms meta/?

Bro, really.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 8:53 p.m. No.20130   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0132 >>0133

>>20122

>can someone not get to the notes w/o that special link?

well, it's hard for me to come up with a good argument to justify wanting to correct a mistake - a mistake that any competant baker would not make. The important thing is that a new baker knows how to do something properly. And if he doesn't, he needs to learn.

 

By the way, if you are present when i do something to which you take exception, would prefer that you mention it then, not later. Very hard to remember exact circumstances and to respond appropriately when there's no specific example.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:57 p.m. No.20131   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0134 >>0137 >>0143

>>20126

Can we blame him?

He's been wanting to bake for WEEKS.

He's been asking for a handoff for WEEKS.

Bakers have been ignoring him as he's been offering to take the handoff with the baker's dough link. No one told him otherwise, just assumed he was a shill.

Dude's a warrior to have kept going. We gotta respect that. He's bakin' good, albeit some rookie mistakes.

It's a sad day for us that we've not been supporting him imo.

No wonder he's giving shit back. He's taken enough, and that's from our own, not the shills.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 8:59 p.m. No.20132   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20130

You do what you do, but i'll be there supporting any attacks on new or OG bakers.

I think your OCD is limiting the organic and hivemind nature of the chan, personally, but you do you.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 9:04 p.m. No.20134   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0136 >>0139

>>20131

>Can we blame him?

no I mean your greivance, like, why you are pointing out some things. You're not wrong, generally speaking, either.

 

>No wonder he's giving shit back. He's taken enough, and that's from our own, not the shills.

 

as far as he goes, well. I'm a tough love kind of anon. It's good that he's fighting back. I had to. All of us had to. he's coming of age.

 

look, I just offered him relief while calling him a faggot. He'll be fine.

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 9:08 p.m. No.20137   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0142

>>20131

>No one told him otherwise, just assumed he was a shill.

I noticed this too

especially if you expect verification,communicate clearly

>That's my dough post, not a verification, can you post a fresh bin from your own account?

<kek handoff denied

big difference

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 9:10 p.m. No.20138   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0142

>>20118

>attacking new and old bakers

we are talking about exactly two bakers (unless you want to dredge up the example re red text scenario, really vague in my mind).

Have no regrets about interactions in these cases; but if specific examples are provided, can see if i would do something different. Could be, who knows?

 

Appreciate you voicing your thoughts bc i would have no idea what's up. None. Have operated the same way - for better or worse - for a long time. Watched you guise talking about new baker last week, had no opinion. Still watching, he is new, i don't know him. Just give feedback as needed, not against anyone. Sorry you think otherwise, don't know what to say.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 9:10 p.m. No.20139   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0140 >>0141

>>20134

My greivance is how new baker's are being treated.

Why TF have we spent what, 23 weeks now and tons of energy and time giving these classes, to see when a new baker steps up, or new baker(s), them being ignored, told to FO, or harassed / attacked?

I''m not gonna sit and say nothin.

Hell, it's so bad around here ;ately I've been refused 3 hadnoffs WHILE SHOWING MY PASTE. From my team mates.

What chance does a new baker have, and what incentive does that give any anons who are thinking they might learn to bake when seeing that typa shit going down every day?

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 9:15 p.m. No.20140   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0148

>>20139

 

>My greivance is how new baker's are being treated.

>I''m not gonna sit and say nothin.

 

Good. Thank you for thinking for yourself.

 

>Hell, it's so bad around here ;ately I've been refused 3 hadnoffs WHILE SHOWING MY PASTE. From my team mates.

 

Witnessed one of those times.

 

>What chance does a new baker have, and what incentive does that give any anons who are thinking they might learn to bake when seeing that typa shit going down every day?

 

I don't know. I had to learn on my own by watching the other bakers in the stream. /comms/ didn't exist. Then the moves happened and shortly after the baker checks started.

 

So I honestly don't know.

Anonymous ID: 60ea64 July 16, 2020, 9:15 p.m. No.20141   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0148

>>20139

>Hell, it's so bad around here ;ately I've been refused 3 hadnoffs WHILE SHOWING MY PASTE. From my team mates.

saw that too

all started because you pasted a link to the dough or some other bin instead of a fresh verification

my guess was copy/paste error

baker on duty assumed you were a shill instead of …..communicate clearly

 

repeating bc I wish I had said this earlier

>That's my dough post, not a verification, can you post a fresh bin from your own account?

<kek handoff denied

communicating clearly gives honest mistakes a chance to be corrected, and shows everyone that you won't be fucked with if it really is a shill

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 9:16 p.m. No.20142   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0155

>>20137

THIS

Why spend our time here teaching new bakers when we're gonna tell them to FO when they ask for a handoff?

I'm feeling like a fraud. On one hand advertising for new bakers and offering a class where we SAY WE WILL ALL SUPPORT YOU, and then irl on the general we're telling them to FO? Man…

>>20138

I love you bro, I'm just sayin' (advice to a dear friend), I think you should stop namefagging, butt out other baker's bakes, stop feeling solely responsible for a whole op, stop correcting others mistakes (just correct them yourself), stop harassing other bakers, stop ganging up on bakers with others and generally stop being so OCD.

Please take this in the friendliest way.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 9:21 p.m. No.20143   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0151 >>0152 >>0158 >>0166

>>20131

No, no - disagree with the idea of "it's a sad day."

As far as vetting bakers go at handoffs, i've always that was fraught with problems and said so from the start. But not strongly bc i understand the need to try to vet the baker they are handing off too. It's just a hard thing to do with such limited info.

 

Put the responsibility back where it belongs: on BO/BVs. They have much better info than bakers, and if we had a cooperative relationship with them, it would help this vetting process a lot. But we don't. And we don't by their choice, not ours.

 

Bakers are trying to do so many things with a very limited set of tools. It's not the fault of bakers that a new baker has trouble getting in the kitchen (assuming this is true - i don't know, don't bake days enough). Bakers are trying to do something that's really hard to do wo support from mgmt. I'm not gonna bitch about the situation - it is what it is - but gonna say, let's not blame each other. We fukken work ourselves to the bone and them some. Do the best we can in a tough situation.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 9:26 p.m. No.20146   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0149 >>0150

>>20129

ok, let's get clear.

"every shift"

what do you mean?

are you talking about the night i was trying to get the mistakes corrected? i only posted during the shifts when i was trying to explain what had happened so on-duty baker knew what a correction was requested.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 9:26 p.m. No.20148   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20140

Thanks kb.

Yeah I think we've just all gotta let it go.

Let it be.

We can't control this single handedly.

We are a hive. We have to let the hive be, to expand, to evolve, w/o attempting to control it.

That's what I'm thinking anyway, after learning through my own mistakes. Not perfect here by any way, but aiming to be best, as we all are.

 

>>20141

You're right, i made a mistake the first time, pasting docs paste instead of my own. Still, after that I pasted approx. 10 legit verification pastes which were ignored and I was harrased for being a shill.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 9:29 p.m. No.20149   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0150 >>0155 >>0337

>>20146

Well I saw you trying to tell the new baker what the link was for the notable bun.Then saw the rest. Then saw when you told the morning shift that he'd 'fucked up', then saw when you told the afternoon shift that he'd 'fucked up' and was 'keeping an eye', then saw when you told the evening shift the same.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 9:38 p.m. No.20152   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0155

>>20143

>>20143

>>20143

>Put the responsibility back where it belongs: on BO/BVs.

 

That will likely never happen.

 

FJis on record as saying the status quo is where what works for the mod team. I agree with them.

 

I don't believe baker checks by a mod team are valid.

 

Anons are better at looking at a work history, and are more picky.

bakers reserving the right to choose a successor goes both ways.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 9:42 p.m. No.20155   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0160

>>20142

You are the first person to ever call me OCD. Nonplussed.

>>20149

Yer gonna have to give examples. Makes it sound like i'm thinkin' about new baker constantly but i'm not. Not at all. I'm just in the moment, always in the moment. Say or do what seems right.

>>20150

Each shift has a new baker, must re-explain. You're asking why didn't i drop it? For the same reason i stick around to correct my own mistakes: bc it's the responsible thing to do.

 

>>20152

Don't mean i expect mgmt to do it, they will not. But they could. I liked the way it worked when i first baked. Understand if you take a different view.

Anonymous ID: 12ca36 July 16, 2020, 9:43 p.m. No.20158   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0161 >>0164 >>0166

>>20143

Why is it not a 'sad day' when we've been spending all our time here to help new bakers and they're being told to FO when offering a handoff?

This has nothing to do with 'vetting' (which should never be happening imo).

Vetting? This is an anon board. Anons will handle any 'vetting', and certainly not let a cabal of bakers do it for them.

kekbees !!!ZDVkOGZmZmJjZDFm ID: 059f4e July 16, 2020, 9:46 p.m. No.20161   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0163 >>0175

>>20158

>Anons will handle any 'vetting', and certainly not let a cabal of bakers do it for them.

 

I was just going to say somethign similar to this.

 

Id rather offer up a resume and let the anons (ie- whatver baker is on duty is also an anon) decide.

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 9:48 p.m. No.20164   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0176

>>20158

Handoff problem:

sorry there is a problem, was aware but did not see it except in your case - and was sad to see that. Tried to see whether you were the real deal with that question i asked that only you would know the answer to - and then screwed it up by sending it to wrong anon. Remember it being a confusing situation at the time, as are many situations on this board. If there are any hard feelings about that mixup and how i handled it, i apologize. My help was no help at all.

Anonymous ID: 9db243 July 16, 2020, 9:55 p.m. No.20166   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0173

>>20143

 

on the situation during the days I have seen the difficulty in the handoffs.

It's habbened a few times and this situation only exists cause of the dough tampering.

BO/BV checks are not flawless.

That allowed AFLB so this is going to habben.

>>20158

I try to stay out of this but actually understand your frustration with this.

The last BO, not current, decided that they did not want the notetakers-it was not a pleasant public experience.

Also realize that if there is any question about who you are and when you come in it's going to be asked by non-bakers too.

These are tough SOB"s and are protective of the documentation of everyones hard work.

I don't blame them at all for being careful.

doc ID: 570b04 July 16, 2020, 10:01 p.m. No.20173   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0181 >>0224

>>20166

there is a "shift" as well as the day goes by, am is east coast, afternoon's is west coast, All through the am and early afternoon it's very 9-5 then it shifts like around 4p or so east coast, which is just after lunch west coast, just sayin

gyb !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 2af809 July 16, 2020, 10:17 p.m. No.20176   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20160

You brought this up and seemingly singled me out when - as you describe what seems troubling - there are perhaps others who you might have critiqued as well. But you chose me. It's like you've been watching me and judging my actions. Forming a hypothesis about my motives.

 

This is just not right. Please consider stepping back and looking at the bigger picture. Because to whatever extent some sort of problem exists - a problem which makes you sad - it's very unlikely to be the fault of one person, whether that person is me or somebody else. I am not sad. I have no regrets. I take responsibility for my actions. And as you see from

>>20164

am willing to apologize for mistakes for which I feel genuinely responsible.