Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 2:46 p.m. No.8141   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8144 >>8150 >>8175 >>8184 >>8195 >>8206 >>8218 >>8227 >>8374 >>8388

>>8132

>I'm anon

>just like you

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10347577/Ex-Marine-accused-FBI-plant-sent-incite-Jan-6-riot-pictured-ranch.html

 

EXCLUSIVE: Pictured on his tranquil Arizona ranch and wedding venue, the ex-Marine accused of being an 'FBI plant sent to help incite January 6 Capitol riot' refuses to answerto muhright-wing conspiracy theory

 

Ray Epps, a Marine veteran, was seen in video urging a group of Trump supporters in Washington DC to 'go into the Capitol' on January 5 and 6

DailyMail.com located Epps, 60, who is at the center of a conspiracy theory alleging he was an FBI plant sent to help incite the deadly riot

Epps is the former president of the largest chapter of the far-right anti- government militia group the Oath Keepers

His alleged involvement in the deadly insurrection was highlighted in the DOJ's House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing in October

U.S Representative Thomas Massie (R-KY) showed video clips of Epps repeatedly encouraging protestors on the streets of DC to 'go into' the Capitol

Epps was seen addressing supporters on the street on January 5 saying: 'I'm probably going to go to jail for it, OK? Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol'

There is no evidence that Epps, a sergeant in the military, ever entered the building himself and he was never arrested in connection to the siege

 

By Greg Woodfield In Phoenix, Arizona, For Dailymail.Com

 

Published: 09:28 EST, 28 December 2021 | Updated: 11:45 EST, 28 December 2021

 

Driving a golf cart around his small and immaculate desert ranch, Ray Epps appears a man in his element.

 

Cattle graze contentedly as he makes his rounds of the property he's transformed into a thriving wedding venue business, focusing on the location's rustic charm.

 

However, the tranquil scene just outside Phoenix, Arizona, could not be in starker contrast to one in which he is also associated – the storming of the Capitol Building on January 6.

 

Because not only is Epps, 60, a genial host of rural weddings, he's also the former president of the largest chapter of far-right anti-government militia group the Oath Keepers and was seen in video urging supporters to 'go into the Capitol' on the day of the deadly insurrection.

 

He was also spotted in footage at the first barrier to fall to rioters as it was breached at 12:50pm.

And he was named Suspect 16 when the FBI published images in its Capitol Violence Most Wanted list of people to identify two days after the insurrection, which claimed five lives.

 

However, a dramatic twist has now seen him accused of an altogether different, an unproven, allegiance - that of FBI plant.

 

Suspicion has fallen on him from some right-wing quarters speculating a fringe theory that he was sent out to help incite the riot on behalf of the federal government.

 

Some on the far right hypothesize that the motive was to frame Trump supporters as domestic terrorists.

 

There is no evidence that Epps, who was a sergeant in the military, ever entered the building himself on that fateful day and he was never arrested in connection with the storming.

 

DailyMail.com located the veteran at his Rocking R Farms wedding and hospitality business, which he runs with wife Robyn, 63.

 

When we arrived at the property in Queen Creek, 30 miles southeast of downtown Phoenix, to give him an opportunity to confront the extreme speculation, he bluntly refused to discuss it.

 

He told us: 'Get off my property'. As we endeavored to further explain, he repeated: 'Get off my property.'

 

Epps spends part of his days tending his animals and driving around on an eight-seater golf cart, as our exclusive pictures reveal.

 

He had swapped out the red Trump cap he wore in Washington for a beige Marines one. Wrapped against the desert winter chill, he appeared wary and on his guard beside the driveway entrance posts proudly bearing the name 'EPPS.'

 

The bucolic scene was a far cry from the howling mobs who stormed the Capitol Building and fought police shortly after then-President Trump delivered a speech to thousands of MAGA supporters at a nearby 'Stop the Steal' rally.

 

Epps – who was quickly identified from the January wanted list - was highlighted again in October's House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing of the Department of Justice, when the FBI theory went mainstream.

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 2:49 p.m. No.8144   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8145 >>8150 >>8175 >>8184 >>8195 >>8227 >>8374 >>8388

>>8141

 

U.S Representative Thomas Massie (R-KY) showed video clips of Epps repeatedly encouraging protestors on the streets of DC to 'go into' the Capitol.

 

Massie linked Epps to his question asking Attorney General Merrick Garland if the government sent agents or assets to 'agitate' protestors into entering the building.

 

Garland said the Justice Department does not comment on pending investigations.

 

In the first video played to the committee, Epps is seen in the street on January 5 saying: 'In fact tomorrow, I don't even want to say it because I will probably be arrested. Tomorrow we need to go into the Capitol.'

 

On the same day, he is recorded saying: 'I'm going to put it out there. I'm probably going to go to jail for it, OK? Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol. Into the Capitol…peacefully.'

 

At that point some in the crowd clearly believe he is a plant and begin to chant: 'Fed! Fed! Fed!'

 

The following day, Epps can be seen in another clip dressed in military-style clothing and yelling to a crowd: 'OK folks, spread the word. As soon as the president is done speaking, we go to the Capitol, where our problems are.'

 

Pointing behind him, he adds: 'It's that direction. Please spread the word.'

 

Shortly afterwards he is seen approaching police barricades holding back chanting protestors.

 

He put his hands on the shoulders of a man in a red MAGA hat and then cups his hands to speak in the man's ear.

 

Moments later the man and protestors suddenly topple the barriers and some fight with police.

 

The man in the hat, later identified as Ryan Samsel, is being held in custody on charges of unlawfully entering the Capitol and assaulting a law enforcement officer.

 

In another video Epps, who was also toting a military-style backpack, is speaking to a man who asks: 'Are we going to get arrested?'

 

Epps tells him: 'When we go in, leave this here.' It is not clear what he is referring to, but then he adds: 'We don't need to get shot.'

 

The ex-marine was quizzed by the Arizona Republic over what he meant by 'go into the Capitol'.

 

He told his local newspaper: 'The only thing that meant is we would go in the doors like everyone else. It was totally, totally wrong the way they went in…I didn't do anything wrong.'

 

The most dramatic interpretation of the FBI-plant accusation has so far come from right-leaning blog Revolver.

 

The site is run by former Trump speechwriter Darren Beattie, who was fired after appearing on a panel with a white nationalist.

 

It claims the fact Epps was never arrested and that his details were removed from the FBI wanted list in July without any action against him point to a sinister connection. It brands him a 'Fed-protected provocateur'.

 

At one point the blog tries to excuse the actions of the rioters by blaming the military veteran and others who it does not identify.

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 2:49 p.m. No.8145   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8150 >>8175 >>8184 >>8195 >>8227 >>8374 >>8388

>>8144

 

It says: 'Ray Epps appears to have worked alongside several individuals – many of them suspiciously unindicted – to carry out a breach of the police barricades that induced a subsequent flood of unsuspecting MAGA protestors to unwittingly trespass on Capitol restricted grounds and place themselves in legal jeopardy.'

 

However the blog offers no direct evidence to back up any allegation that Epps was acting on behalf of the FBI or any other government agency.

 

Epps was president of the Oath Keepers' Arizona chapter, the country's largest, in 2011. Many of the far-right militia group are among the 727 people from 40 states charged with offenses in the insurrection.

 

However it is not known if he is still affiliated with the organization, which targets veterans and ex-law enforcement for membership.

 

Arizona-born Epps bought his current property as a five-acre horse farm in 2010, paying $252,000. He and Robyn, also 60, have developed the site and possibly added to the acreage of Rocking R Farms.

 

Their company incorporates a wedding venue they call Knotty Barn, where couples can marry amid rustic beauty and even stay in a bridal suite.

 

They explain on their website: 'Ray has farming in his blood. One side of his family raised dairy cows and the other raised range cattle. He worked on the farm beside his parents and grandparents most of his adolescent life.'

 

Epps met Robyn in Las Vegas where he was working as a contractor She hired him to fix the roof of an apartment building owned by her boss.

 

Their website says: 'Robyn told an employee to catch Ray and ask him to come back in before he got into his truck.

 

'That night, they went out on a date and not long afterward, Ray asked Robyn to marry him. Their love is still very strong today and memories are rekindled every time they walk a bride and groom through their property.'

 

Of their property, they say: 'In 2010, Ray wanted to return to his roots, so he and Robyn bought a 5-acre farm…

 

'Ray brought cattle to the farm along with horses, including his favorite horse, T-Rex, who roams contentedly through the front pasture.'

 

They initially concentrated on selling grass-fed beef together with eggs and tomatoes at farmers markets. But in 2016 the bottom fell out of the market so they repurposed their business into a wedding venue, launching in 2019.

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 3:30 p.m. No.8182   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8189 >>8192 >>8195 >>8227 >>8374 >>8388

>>8175

OMGBecky

@BekkUhhh

Replying to

@OhCreative0ne

and

@BrebDaily

Oh weird, look at that…his wife, Robyn Epps was the national director of sales at Dominon Enterprises for 27 years. https://linkedin.com/in/robynepps

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5:16 AM · Jun 18, 2021·Twitter for Android

 

https://twitter.com/BekkUhhh/status/1405816632652439552

 

 

ROCKING R FARMS, LLC

 

Company Number

L17140933

Status

Active

Incorporation Date

14 October 2011 (about 10 years ago)

Company Type

Domestic LLC

Jurisdiction

Arizona (US)

Registered Address

 

20325 E. SUPERSTITION DR.

QUEEN CREEK

85212

Maricopa, AZ

United States

 

Agent Name

JAMES RAY EPPS

Agent Address

20325 E. SUPERSTITION DR., QUEEN CREEK, AZ, 85212

Directors / Officers

 

JAMES EPPS, member

JAMES EPPS, manager

JAMES RAY EPPS, agent

ROBYN EPPS, member

ROBYN EPPS, manager

 

Registry Page

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PUB OF ARTICLES OF ORGANIZATION

 

21 Nov 2011

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14 Oct 2011

ARTICLES OF ORGANIZATION

 

14 Oct 2011

ARTICLES OF ORGANIZATION

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 3:43 p.m. No.8187   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8188 >>8195 >>8198 >>8204 >>8227 >>8374 >>8388

>>8184

<So is Ray Epps the official fall guy for j6 or what?

Fall Guy?

I'm guessing moar like a gateway to the truth.

An Obvious person that muh J6 committee and the fake news should be all over and looking into, Yet they continue to ignoreat all costs. As if they know he will expose them

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 4:05 p.m. No.8203   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8206 >>8227 >>8374 >>8388

>>8192

>>8189

where does this "status" field come from? This follower and Followed for Robyn Epps, Paige Forrest, hasWendyin her status field for some reason.

 

[Paige Forrest (ppforrest)] Paige Forrest (ppforrest)

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following

60

followers

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updates

Status @kaitlancollins @maggieNYTHappy o NN

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 4:09 p.m. No.8206   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8207 >>8212 >>8219 >>8225 >>8227 >>8260 >>8374 >>8388

>>8141

>>8203

kek Melvin

 

FUNERAL HOME

Meldrum Mortuary & Crematory

52 N. Macdonald

Mesa, AZ

Epps, Melvin "Mell"

passed away on April 9, 2016. Mell Epps, 74, a devoted husband, father, grandfather, and great grandfather, peacefully succumbed to cancer, surrounded by his family at home on Saturday April 9, 2016. Mell was a firefighter for the City of Mesa for 22 years, and a Fire Chief in Heber Overgaard for 5 years. Mell was a faithful member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Mell is proceeded in death by his father; JD, siblings; Jack, Libby, Jimmy, and daughter; Lynn Ellsworth. He is survived by his mother; Gertie, wife; Marie, and sons; Ray (Robyn),Scott (Anndrea) and Darrell (Tracy). Siblings; Jerry (Marca), Mike (Angelica), Kelly (Tom) Craig, Diane (Steve) Spraggins, 21 grandchildren, and 30 great grandchildren. Services for Mell will be held on Saturday, April 16th at the Lehi Chapel located at 830 E. Lehi Rd in North Mesa. There will be a viewing from 8:30 AM to 9:30 AM. The Funeral services will be held at 10:00 AM followed by internment at the City of Mesa Cemetery.

 

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/azcentral/name/melvin-epps-obituary?id=8304477

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 4:23 p.m. No.8213   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8219 >>8225 >>8227 >>8247 >>8374 >>8388

>>8212

Step Son?

 

Nathan "Nate" BEHUNIN

FUNERAL HOME

Horan & McConaty - Northwest/Arvada

7577 W. 80th Ave.

Arvada, CO

Nate, 33, of Arvada, passed April 19, 2015. Nate is survived by his parents, Don & Tami Behunin and Robyn & Ray Epps; siblings, Emily Amschel, Jason, Dustin, Brandon, Tiffany Jones, Tyson, and Ricci Franklin; many nieces & nephews; and grandmothers, Barbara Behunin and Marlene Snyder. Preceded in death by grandfathers, Gage Behunin & Skip Poyfair. The family will receive friends, Wednesday, 6:30-8:30 PM, Horan & McConaty Family Chapel, 7577 W. 80th Ave., Arvada. Funeral Service, Thursday, 11AM, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 7080 Independence St., Arvada. Interment, Arvada Cemetery. Full obituary and memories at HoranCares.com.

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 4:33 p.m. No.8225   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8227 >>8230 >>8374 >>8388

>>8213

>>8206

Moar Melvin

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/160986423/melvin-epps

 

Melvin James Clarence “Mell” Epps

Birth 10 Jan 1942

Mesa, Maricopa County, Arizona, USA

Death 9 Apr 2016 (aged 74)

Mesa, Maricopa County, Arizona, USA

Burial

City of Mesa Cemetery

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Memorial ID 160986423 · View Source

 

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Mell Epps, 74, a devoted husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather, peacefully succumbed to cancer, surrounded by his family at home on Saturday April 9,2016. Mell was a firefighter for the City of Mesa for 22 years, and a Fire Chief in Heber Overgaard for 5 years. Mell was a faithful member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Mell is proceeded in death by his father; JD, siblings; Jack, Libby, Jimmy, and daughter; Lynn Ellsworth. He is survived by his mother; Gertie, wife; Marie, and sons; Ray (Robyn), Scott (Anndera) and Darrell (Tracy). Siblings; Jerry (Marcis), Mike (Angelica), Kelly (Tom)Craig, Diane (Steve) Spraggins, 21 grandchildren and 30 great grandchildren. Services for Mell will beheld on Saturday, April 16th at the Lehi Chapel located at 830 E. Lehi Rd. in North Mesa. There will be a viewing from 8:30 AM to 9:30 AM. The Funeral services will be held at 10:00 AM followed by internment at the City of Mesa Cemetery.

Family Members

Parents

 

Photo

J D Epps

 

1923–1979

Photo

Gertie Elizabeth Casey Epps

 

1923–2017

 

Siblings

 

Photo

J C Epps

 

1943–2012

Photo

Elizabeth Joanne Epps

 

1951–1970

Photo

James Dean Epps

 

1955–1961

 

Children

 

Photo

Carma Lynn Epps Ellsworth

 

1962–2005

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 4:40 p.m. No.8230   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8255 >>8374 >>8388

>>8225

https://knottybarn.com/our-story

 

our story at rocking r farms

Ray & Robyn

 

Ray has farming in his blood. One side of his family raised dairy cows and the other raised range cattle. He worked on the farm beside his parents and grandparents much of his adolescent life.

 

Ray also spent most of his career as a contractor, and that work led to Robyn who was the regional manager of a company and she hired Ray to fix a leaky roof at some apartments owned by her employer. Ray was drawn to Robyn the minute he walked into her office, but he left without asking her out. Robyn told an employee to catch Ray and ask him to come back in before he got into his truck. That night, they went out on a date and not long afterward, Ray asked Robyn to marry him. Their love is still very strong today and memories are rekindled every time they walk a bride and groom through their property.

 

In 2010, Ray wanted to return to his roots, so he and Robyn bought a 5-acre farm in Queen Creek, AZ and named it Rocking R Farms. Ray brought cattle to the farm along with horses, including his favorite horse, T-Rex, who roams contentedly through the front pasture. Not far behind the cattle and horse purchases were pigs, chickens and emus. Their final additions were two adorable dwarf Nigerian goats, Addy and Patches. Their antics made children and adults alike squeal and laugh. In January, Angel, a beautiful pure white little goat, came to the farm.

 

In 2012, they hosted Ray’s family reunion. As Ray and his dad talked, they thought the farm would be a great backdrop for family reunions for others. The dream was set aside for the more lucrative beef business Ray had begun. He and Robyn sold grass-fed beef, eggs, greens, and tomatoes at farmer’s markets and through word-of-mouth.

 

In 2016, the bottom fell out of the American grass-fed beef market nationally when commodity agents were allowed to flood the market with grass-fed beef from other countries.

 

Ray and Robyn re-evaluated their priorities and realized that what brings the most joy and motivation is in helping others find the same in their lives. Family is important to them, so they wanted to provide a place for family, friends and colleagues to relax, play and celebrate the important times in their lives. The dream that Ray and his dad discussed years back became Ray and Robyn’s future reality and the idea for family reunions grew to include weddings, corporate events, parties, and community gatherings.

 

What was once a dream to use their farm to bring joy to others moved from dream to paper. They planned, designed, and built the Knotty Barn. Ray modeled the design after his grandfather’s rustic farm, built in the 1800s.

 

As the Knotty Barn opened its doors in 2019, Ray and Robyn’s dreams became reality. They now want your dreams do the same within the Knotty Barn’s walls.

 

You can read about how the Knotty Barn was built.

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 5:20 p.m. No.8272   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>8265

>hard to tell with only two photos

 

>Could be the same guy.

>>8266

Quicktubes Ray is Texas

Think I'll stick with different unless digging brings me to Texas for some reason.

 

>>8268

>what's the context of the two pictures?

pic on right is known photo of Jan 6 Ray Epps Oath Keeper fag

 

Pic on left is a Ray Epps found by searching for Ray Epps and Contractors. dont think its the same guy but similar enough looking to not completely dismiss

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 5:35 p.m. No.8284   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8286 >>8295

>>8192

seems it would require some digging to connect if possible

 

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Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 5:46 p.m. No.8285   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>8280

Fukn Bezos outsourcing

 

 

ndy100 reports that a woman named Kristin Livdahl recently posted a story about her Amazon Alexa home assistant to Twitter. Livdahl claimsthat when her 10-year-old daughter asked the device for “a challenge” to do, the device instructed her daughter to poke metal into a power outlet.

 

The Alexa device told the child: “Here’s something I found on the web. According toourcommunitynow.com: The challenge is simple: plug in a phone charger about halfway into a wall outlet, then touch a penny to the exposed prongs.”

 

https://ourcommunitynow.com/news-national/watch-out-parentsthe-viral-outlet-challenge-has-kids-doing-the-unthinkable

 

Watch Out, Parents—the Viral 'Outlet Challenge' Has Kids Doing the Unthinkable

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Forget Tide pods and ice water; the latest TikTok craze is the "outlet challenge." Yes, it's as stupid as it sounds.

 

<The challenge is simple: plug in a phone charger about halfway into a wall outlet, then touch a penny to the exposed prongs. The resulting sparks are supposed to be cool enough to win you instant internet fame. (Obviously, do NOT attempt this!)

 

News outlets all over the country are reporting on this disturbing trend. Fire departments, electricians, and school systems are all trying to get the message out about just how dangerous it is to try this.

 

Basically, if you see your kids hovering near a wall outlet with a penny in hand, put a stop to the prank. Have a serious talk about the dangers of electricity and fire, then spread the word about this in your own circles.

 

In case you were wondering, the penny creates both sparks and a potential fire hazard because of the electrical arcing. If someone is caught doing this on purpose, they may be liable for any damages incurred. Just ask the teens in Massachusetts who may now be facing fines and possible criminal charges for starting electrical fires.

 

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Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 5:52 p.m. No.8288   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8291 >>8296 >>8299 >>8300 >>8301 >>8374 >>8388 >>8428

dafuq is up with the crossbow stories?

almost like it's comms or something

 

DC

Trader Joe's

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Arrest made incrossbow incident at a DC Trader Joe's

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Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 10:24 p.m. No.8384   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8386

>>8295

>>8306

 

Suppressed CBS News 60 Minutes on Landmark cult leader Werner Erhard, 3 Mar 1991

 

 

Summary

 

The ZIP archive presents the video and transcript of an investigative report into "est" (Erhard Seminars Training) guru Werner Erhard by CBS News, originally broadcast on the program 60 Minutes on March 3, 1991.

 

Both, video and transcript, have been published at various points in time, but are not publically available anymore due to legal threats against publishers from Werner Erhard.

 

The material contains interviews with friends, business associates and family of Werner Erhard making serious claims against him. Erhard is accused by family members of beating his wife and children, and raping a daughter, while still giving seminars on how to have relationships that work. The story also includes interviews with two former staff members of Werner Erhard: Wendy Drucker (a senior manager) and Dr. Bob Larzelere (head of Erhard's counseling staff).

 

The current incarnation of the est training is now known as Landmark Education, with its course the Landmark Forum. Landmark Education is run by CEO Harry Rosenberg, who is Werner Erhard's brother, and General Counsel and Chairman of the Board of Directors Art Schreiber, who has acted as Werner Erhard's lawyer. Werner Erhard's sister Joan Rosenberg also sits on the Board of Directors of Landmark Education.

 

The likely audience for this material includes researchers of the "est" and Landmark Education / Landmark Forum movement - including psychotherapists, psychologists, and psychiatrists, as well as those researching the controversial life of Werner Erhard. The audience also includes potential clients/customers of the company Landmark Education - whose course the Landmark Forum was originally developed by Werner Erhard as the "est training".

 

The material can be verified as the original CBS broadcast on 60 Minutes of March 3, 1991. The episode of 60 Minutes is Program # 2325.

 

Additionally, Cult expert Rick Ross of The Ross Institute Internet Archives for the Study of Destructive Cults, Controversial Groups and Movements maintains a large database on Landmark Education[1], est[2], and The Forum[3], and his attorneys are also quite educated as to the organization's methods[4].

 

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Suppressed_CBS_News_60_Minutes_on_Landmark_cult_leader_Werner_Erhard,_3_Mar_1991

Truth Seeker ID: 3a5b76 Dec. 28, 2021, 10:39 p.m. No.8386   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8388 >>8389 >>8393

>>8295

>>8374

>>8384

Think this is what I was remembering.

 

https://artvoice.com/2018/05/02/cult-leader-raniere-studied-various-methods-to-create-nxivm/

 

Sex slaver Raniere studied various methods to create NXIVM and added ‘ethics’ as the ‘highest value’

May 2, 2018

Artvoice

 

Keith Raniere utilized a multilevel marketing strategy for his classes for NXIVM. The students were the sales force and were compensated for students they recruited.

 

In the classes which were overall nothing more than a giant self promotion of Raniere’s greatness and a rehash of other people’s teachings.

 

<Raniere studiedest/Landmark,a company offering personal development programs, which uses theories formulated by Werner Erhard, author of ‘est’ (Erhard Seminars Training).

 

Raniere studied Scientology, a body of beliefs and practices created by L. Ron Hubbard, as an alternative to psychiatry, and a religion with its own terminology, doctrines, an E-meter, and the practice of auditing.

 

Raniere studied Neurolinguistic Programming, an approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created by Richard Bandler and John Grinder which claims a connection between neurological processes, language and behavior a person learns through her life experience and that these can be changed to achieve certain goals.

 

Raniere synthesized these, and a dose of author Ayn Rand, a dash of Milton’s Paradise Lost and a hodgepodge of other stray bits of wisdom he accumulated over time into NXIVM ‘technology’ for people who felt inadequate and frightened by life in return for money and sex partners.

 

Are there some NXIVM people who benefited from the classes? Possibly.

 

What I saw was the more classes a student took, the less capable she was of functioning and the more obedient to Raniere.

 

From what I observed, students had an inability to focus which usually led to a disconnect at all critical moments, almost as if the NXIVM student was programmed to be a mere ‘worker bee’ and before she could ever gain the independence needed to become an executive success or accomplish tasks which required strength, or finesses or leadership, she would disconnect and be utterly unable to proceed. And that point she would be programmed to ask Raniere or one of the higher rank members of NXIVM – such as her coach. She would then be told that she needed to pay for more courses and the need itself and the desire to seek help from NXIVM was indicative of the great progress she was making.

 

And, if somehow, the thinking she needed to accomplish a task led to realizing she needed to get far away from Raniere, the student would often panic and descend into abject fear and sometimes infantilism.

 

Following through on projects seemed difficult or impossible for NXIVM students during my tenure. That is why NXIVM needed so many outside consultants; their own members were utterly deficient in business and most worldly matters. Most could work only under direct and careful supervision.

 

Throughout the years of NXIVM, the women Raniere was bedding while seeming to fare slightly better than those he did not bed, overall they were anxious, constantly dieting and striving to please him and worried over his absence or their weight or to displease him for reasons I doubt they even fully understood. He was manipulating them into slavery.

 

The women who were too old for the harem [35 plus], and the eunuch-like male members – seemed to hold Raniere in a veneration an acolyte holds towards his God. This too is part of the NXIVM technology.

 

Happily for those who want to study some of the top secret course, the patent application for Raniere’s ‘Rational Inquiry’ – the name he gave for his brand of thinking that he taught his students -discloses the first 21 “modules” ( 2003 05 26 patent application for rational-inquiry-2)

 

Interestingly, there is a crime and punishment module.

 

Page 179: “coaches are to make sure that students understand ‘that punishment upholds our ethical system and without punishment there can be no ethics’”.

 

How convenient. This allowed Raniere to punish a student in ‘ethical breach’. And claim moral superiority while doing it.

 

In NXIVM, ‘ethics’ supersede ‘rules’. NXIVM leaders often consider it ethical to break the ‘rules’ to uphold ‘ethics.’ This is helpful since laws are after all nothing more than rules.

 

Since Raniere is the ultimate authority on ethics, there are no rules or laws for his followers other than his fiat. He refers to himself as an “ethicist.”

 

Judging every action subjectively by unwritten ‘ethical principles’ is a recipe for dictatorship. Which is why Raniere wrote it that way.

 

Below is a checklist from the secret class course work of NXIVM. It was against the ethics and the rules of NXIVM for a student to reveal this secret teaching. However in attempting to patent much of this, it became public.

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Werner Erhard family tree

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Date: September 06, 2013 02:42AM

 

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