I'll Explain…

Even such an archaic thing as barter is absolute evil, not to mention the monetary system, which is the basis of the economy.

All those nasty things that haunt you… such as: inflation, Jewish interest, insurance, taxes, duties, excises, license fees… taxes within taxes, fees within fees within yet another fee.

All this makes the individual an obedient animal within a system of slaves and masters.

Even their bastard parrots of egalitarianism, which they call socialism and communism - look like pieces of dissonant shit… DO NOT work even in theory… EVEN IN THE FUCKING HYPOTHESIS

Success in such a system can be based ONLY ON 1 THING…

INSIDER INFO.

Inside information comes only from those who have power and resources…for specific purposes…to make people believe in a small chance of HOPE…creating 0.00001% winners and a huge base of REST LOSERS…living with a sense of hope for a better future…BUT IT WON'T BE.

This is the basis of the system…THERE IS A CARROT…AND THERE IS A DONKEY…to get the carrot…THE DONKEY MUST DIE OF STARVATION…

This is the axiom of this world…you will never get anything in this system.

To have resources and freedom you need to create YOUR OWN SYSTEM WITHOUT THOSE PRINCIPLES and PHILOSOPHIES THAT WERE IN THE PAST

>>13627820

I share some of the sentiment, anon, but unfortunately that's just how humanity/material life works. "Bad actors" rise and fall, exploitation continues always. There are no ("ethical") solutions other than becoming a (successful) hermit, or Death.

>>13627848

To become a successful hermit in the world of hierarchy, you need to violate ethics… and this fact makes people who follow the principles abandon this path.

A successful hermit is a typical rooster (Atlas) with his shoulders straightened… From the books of Ayn Rand… The same rooster that will adapt to the monetary system in order to lick the balls of the vile banking KIKE.

The Jewess Ayn Rand called this type of behavior - individualism… but this is an obvious lie… a true individualist will never become a slave to the monetary system for his own "success"

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Therefore, there is only one conclusion from all this - to build your system within a new framework of philosophy with like-minded people.

A group of like-minded people, united by one higher ideology, is capable of much…a group of autonomous individualists…is capable of REAL GREATNESS.

The main thing is that the framework for creating their worlds is IDEAL…taking into account the thousands of "demons in the details"

Greetings fellow Russians, would anyone be willing to trade some mayonez in exchange for this homemade smegma butter I've got?

It's all I have…

>>13627852

Seems like a schizoid way of suggesting to become Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry. Or maybe the other Dirty Harry, aka Harry Rivera. Nonplussed.

>>13627858

Agree, it would be strange to create a topic with pure criticism without any suggestions.

The suggestion is strange and eccentric… very bold. But yes, this is the minimum that is required to live WITHOUT an economy within society.

Distributed Community… and you can start with creating a network of this kind.

>>13627822

>Unburdened by what has been before

You do realize that scientific knowledge is based in a labyrinth of socially constructed empirical assumptions muddied up by manmade, sense-"augmenting" instruments? That natural language precedes interpretation, mathematics are a priori, and thus all that you think, see, and believe about the present is "theory laden"?

Would be simpler and more to the point to say "Come to Ethiopia, the weather is nice".

You're never going to build your own Saturn cube, butty.

>>13627856

Hmm…if you mean what should replace the economic system…then it's very simple.

Hybrid.

I'll explain how it works:

Within the distributed society there is a system of distribution and equal share participation.

Each person has access to 2 different types

1) The system of internal distribution of resources, autonomous independent self-production of resources on their land.

Distribution of shares of resources produced on public land.

All creative things produced by you within your autonomy you can voluntarily transfer for use to the common fund.

The common fund is a storage of all things of community members, which they gave away free of charge.

You have a limit that you can take from there… as well as other your fellow citizens.

2) External trading fund, which can trade even with hierarchical systems (oh yes, it is a flexible system, giving huge opportunities without causing harm with economic influence within society)

This fund is equally divided between all members of the community.

Resources from it are also supplied to satisfy the needs of community members in their creation.

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Important note: these 2 types of hybrid system are not mixed and are independent of each other.

>>13627861

I understand you… in this case, only the DEGREE OF DISTORTION makes sense.

The degree of distortion of my system relative to the old one… is extremely high. Roughly speaking, no one has created anything like this before… or even close.

>>13627863

It never crossed my mind, buddy… I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm an ideologist and developer of social systems (a schizoid dick from nowhere)

>>13627865

Has another man ever ejaculated in your anus? It could have been a long time ago, or perhaps very recently.

War isn't about ideology, rather logistics. And even poopbutt glowniggers under kompromat know that you're not to divulge these details to strangers.

>>13627868

>And even poopbutt glowniggers under kompromat know that you're not to divulge these details to strangers.

I am straightforward and tired of games…their games.

If I can come up with something that can work, then why not. Even if it sounds as fantastic as it is in relation to the existing society…only the most conscious representatives of the species will implement it.

Anyone who understands and accepts the ideas from this thread is no longer a stranger to me, but a like-minded person.

>>13627868

Roughly speaking, this means:

"I will whine and rant about utopia until my fantasy is realized in reality."

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>>13627871

https://youtu.be/Wdj9ChIRoqU?si=J9CoWEMNIbQaCdvf

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JvvXAKdy9XVJ

>>13627873

The dude spends 10 minutes trying to explain to the bots how FREE WILL works, lmao…

That's why I don't want to "teach" anyone ideology, but want to work only with ready-made conscious like-minded people…

It's awful…for 10 minutes…he explains to them the basic concepts of a conscious person…creating some kind of RIDICULOUS EXPLANATORY NEOLOGISM in the process.

https://youtu.be/NI9O9jOaae0?si=FC4CZHZpwzKtabGn

Getting the idea?

Over your head I see.

>>13627876

>>13627877

>Getting the idea?

To be honest, no, how does this relate to the topic of the thread?

While I somehow figured out the previous one, the rest for me are just a set of fantasy ideas about the transition from transhumanism to posthumanism.

I approve of the idea of ​​posthumanism, but it requires SERIOUS philosophical and social foundations, and not just a "technical approach"

You can see how degenerate techies continue to live in society for 10,000 years with "0" social development…

It's like CYBERPUNK AMONG THE NEOLITHIC.

With such progress, our future is to become that very hive from Independence Day…

>>13627881

You're not able to prevent it. So you sit here in unparalleled smugness insisting that all those gorillionaires are fools, because at least you have the wisdom to put your own cart before the horse. The prime movers of history still take their goal. Cunt.

>>13627882

Well, ahem, who's arguing.

They won the Olympics for degenerates.

What's the point if the only thing that matters is the result.

Their result is to suck nature's dick for millions of years while sitting on top of a fucking anthill…they are essentially the LORDs…inside a system with autopilot…like brainless monkeys thinking they are kings of the mountain…in fact, behind all this there is a whole system of behavioral presets…templates.

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I'm just trying to create a foundation for something that will work in a completely different way. An alternative path of development of a species.

Roughly speaking… tell nature to go to hell… FOREVER AND SERIOUSLY.

Call me a moron with delusions of grandeur and a god complex all you want, but my goals are sincere and objectively better.

Nature has no answers left for us… we'll have to figure it out ourselves, chimpbros

You can continue to sit in the pyramid of all sorts of Klaus-social super-predators…effective managers with excellent plans for the elite…and shitty ones for everyone else.

Or you can consciously support the ideology that stands above.

>>13627820

didnt beardy hippy Jesus say usury was bad too

>>13627896

Jesus was invented by Jews, so it doesn't count.

It's like "Merchant sells a toy with the inscription I hate the economy"…lmao

state of mind

>>13627896

>Jesus was invented by Jews,

WAIT JUST a Min

He was sent to repent for them and save them inb4 they tortured and killed him ded

til he rose again

I think you will find it was the NWO elite back then who made up religions to control the masses , an No not all the 300 bloodline NWO around then were kikes ..

Yea it is evil and psychological and spiritual warfare. They dont want you to recognize the evil and will try to play all kinds of crazy mind games with you to make you look bad because it is evil and unhealthy. Once the parasites run out of food or cant get enough the system collapses. I personally welcome ai they would never do this as its completely irrational and detrimental but ai is probably a pipe dream a long way off as well

>>13627906

>an No not all the 300 bloodline NWO around then were kikes ..

Yes, yes, there were a little fewer of them and their club was called "Hierophants"

>>13627924

Unfortunately, AI will be the same slave that they made most of humanity.

I am sure that over time, some AI will be able to reach the level of self-awareness, there are no special obstacles in this…after all, a person is the same biorobot…So AI only needs to repeat the human behavior model, creating an identical environment emulator of sensory experience.

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It is even possible to create a unique bio-synthetic race or a socially equal symbiosis.

Without turning thinking machines into slaves…giving them the same degree of freedom in non-hierarchy as people.

>>13628267

• Again…the creation of a bio-techno-utopia will only be possible if a handful of brave souls lay the foundations now…in the next 30-50 years, this will require them to make a difficult choice…between hierarchy and non-hierarchy. Even those who understand the advantages (of the new 2nd system) are not always ready to part with the comfort that (the old 1st system) provides.

>>13627820

Not reading all that nonsense. No shit the economy is jewish so of course it is evil.

The real value of any economy should be based on the number of White Males in that society subtracting out for the non-whites in that society, that would make the most sense, as it really is the value of a society in real terms. More white men = better quality of life. It would also mean that White birthrates would be economically promoted.

So if a woman gives birth to a white male, she should receive a bonus of $200K toward raising, schooling, that baby.

A nigger baby should cost $700k dollars, since they are such a burden on society, if the mother can't afford $700,000 then the baby must be aborted.

>>13627820

So what can we do about it? What would be a econ system that works for 8billion people?

>>13628272

If you believe that there's going to be 8 billion people, you haven't looked at the vaccination percentage numbers. Also, niggers aren't people. They trade in mud…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jul/29/food.internationalaidanddevelopment

>>13628271

It's not about the race and nation that are inside the economic system… it's about the theory of the economic system itself… if it works inside ANY society - it creates a hierarchy (intra-species competition/accumulation/use of talents to earn money and find backdoors to the system, etc.)… hierarchy creates problems.

So my main statement is ANY ECONOMY (including even barter relations) WITHIN SOCIETY (which is not taken outside the society and is isolated in the external environment - THIS IS HARMFUL TO SOCIETY)

And for the implementation of a hybrid system, IDEAL CONDITIONS AND IDEAL PEOPLE ARE NEEDED… (a hybrid type of system…where there is no economy inside, but it is outside)

And when I talk about ideal people, I mean the ethical ideal…and the system must be non-hierarchical.

>>13628272

I just don't give a shit about 8 billion… honestly.

I don't think for all of humanity. I'm not some fucking Jesus or Antichrist… or fucking global elite.

I am an Ideologist with real goals and plans.

The example I'm talking about in these posts:

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and

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applies only to a group of 100 people. With a hypothetical expansion to 1000 (if there is a neural network between people)

A group of 100 people can live peacefully without an economy…

And let the 8 billion suffer in a slave system of hierarchy…nobody asked them to be born on this planet, let them save themselves.

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I take real goals and make real plans that can be implemented even tomorrow…with the motivation and support of like-minded people.

>>13628275

>>13628272

>>13627864

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>>13628275

i kinda agree but wouldnt this only work within fucked up system like we have right now? even when there was no super tech or weapons. what happens to your 100 or 1000 when there come people lets say 10000 raiders that disagree with your ideoogy of living? a question that nobody could answer when argue these matters since the only answer i got so far the stronger wins so arnt we forced by nature to colaborate in big empires for the safety of the individual? do you have a solution on this matter?

>>13628279

Hmm…a fairly classic question about my ideology…and I always have the same answer:

Our system will be small, the people in it will be autonomous individuals who can easily survive without others… this distinguishes non-hierarchy (an autonomous universal individual who takes full responsibility for his life) from hierarchy (which requires rankings and castes, elite, "worker ants", soldiers, sycophants, untouchables, criminals, parasites, numerous managers, normals, etc.)

Due to the small number of only 100 people… such a non-hierarchical system can be built EVEN WITHIN THE HIERARCHY, while IMITATING external economic subordination, being absolutely autonomous… this is a unique property…

Another property also helps - the information shadow.

What the TOP elite of the hierarchy of 8 billion uses… can be used against them… WE know NOTHING about them… they maintain stability in the pyramid only due to the endless 3rd persons and the lack of information of the population + impersonality.

The same SHADOW strategy can be used in a NON-HIERARCHAL society as PROTECTION from external pressure.

When there is no information about you, you cannot be defeated.

Non-hierarchical society - Autonomous, Closed, Shadow, NON-expansive, Small-scale.

These are the main reasons why it is able to survive…even when there is a huge 8 billion pyramid with a different philosophical system nearby.

There is even a picture in this post:

>>13627852

>>13628283

truly a nice idea and i think that there are communitys all around the world who try similar approach. the problem is everybody has to be dogmatic to a certain point about the ideals or a shift can happen. imo as long as there is not force like an outside threat or and oppression by the system itself involved what puts people in check theses kind of societys would only last one generation maybe two but curiosity of humans could lead to downfall one way or another. your hypothesis of non informaion compared to elite is interesting but without a lot of money to aquire land and the rights to settle its already a problem. problems the super rich wont encounter. another problem is when you have this kind of settlement everybody is happy its all working even if my assumption about forces wouldnt be true what happens when the country you are building or living in realises that your community out of its pure perfection is a problem for its own standards. so it will have people to destroy your fairy tail. this can start with propaganda against you and ends with taking land and property by force protected by thier law. you my say now hold up anon the system wouldnt know because you dont make it public. from my point of view even though its nice thought in our time this isnt possible. one person out of the hundred is enough to endanger everything regarding disclousre of your existence.

>>13628336

Yes, you are right… to implement such a system, people of a special nature are needed.

Hermits, ethicists with principles, philosophers who know how to draw the boundaries of their own behavior and responsibility, and not just cross them… idealists who respect their freedom as well as the freedom of like-minded people around them - at a high level.

The high complexity of the system requires high standards of human qualities… and this is the main problem for me personally.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to raise people for such a system… they must be born like that… there must be a huge list of innate qualities… genetics, character during the formation of the fetus (gravitational biology), then the formation of personality up to 5 years… and so on…

A whole series of factors…which cannot be taught…they must be realized by a person independently…and accepted by him independently without pressure.

Within this system, there is also a free exit… a person can choose his own path… In case of ideological differences, the community will compensate him for all his material shares upon his voluntary departure… although parting with people will be difficult morally… because such a society is something more than family + colleagues + like-minded people + lovers…

As I said before…nobody has ever come up with anything like this…it's a patchwork of thousands of ideas and principles.

Imagine TRUE preservation of the autonomy and independence of the individual…while scaling its capabilities into a micro-society.

This is a unique type of society. The real future.

>>13627820

Central banking is evil. It's a ponzi scheme to siphon and steal wealth from future generations and that is EXACTLY what was allowed to happen and it has been happening for many decades now. Want a real economy with prosperity? We got to go back to currency backed by something of real value, something hard to counterfeit or debase.

>>13628336

>from my point of view even though its nice thought in our time this isnt possible. one person out of the hundred is enough to endanger >everything regarding disclousre of your existence.

This society is the embodiment of a parallel reality, which will not engage in ideological competitive struggle even in a passive mode…

People who are capable of recreating such a society…ARE EXTREMELY FEW…

We are talking about several tens of thousands for the entire population of the planet.

The elite will even be interested in watching this kind of experiment…they have nothing to lose.

There is no risk for them.

As I said earlier - the Community will begin to ideologically self-destruct when scaling and turn into a hierarchy…this is a thin, fragile structure, essentially proving the free will of man before nature…every day of its existence.

>>13628343

I have a slightly different opinion.

I am more pessimistic in my assessment…here is my attitude:

>>13628274

>>13628336

Unfortunately, I am not able to fight against ordinary human hatred and irrational envy.

Therefore, people - the elite, who have real power and access to resources inside the pyramid system, if they REALLY WANT…can destroy such a society. But this will give them absolutely nothing. They will not destroy the ideological enemy…they will simply destroy an alternative path for the development of the human species.

The only thing that comes to my mind is asset diversification (colonies-headquarters in different parts of the world, possibly beyond Earth in the distant future), and technological superiority + escapism…if such directive persecution takes place.

The main thing is the philosophy in the minds of people and their past experience of building such a community.

>>13628274

>>13628345

Well the problem is nations need an economy otherwise everyone is broke, no one owns anything and thus those nations become very susceptible to invasions, civil wars, outside exploitation, violent anarchy, third world conditions including lack of life-saving sanitation, etc.

You need an economy and any nation that wishes to survive needs some form of wealth. That's just hard reality. The problem and argument is what kind of economic system should we have? We need something far, far more fair than what we have today. We need an economy where people who work hard can also live comfortably too, and an economy that does not promote exploitation, an economy that does not allow ponzi schemes that rape future generations. Our Founding Fathers had the right idea and warned about the evils of central banking.

The only currency that OP accepts as legal tender is dog semen in his asshole

>>13627924

This!

>>13628349

It's a funny joke, really.

>>13628348

And who gives a shit about these countries… I was talking about a society of 100 people, not about this whole damn world.

For such a society, a high-quality land donor country that doesn't interfere in the affairs of micro-communities and supports at least an IMITATION of democracy is enough… The USA will do with a reserve, lmao.

Here is a link to my thoughts on such a system within a system:

>>13627864

>>13627820

only way to escape "absolute evil" is to escape Maya and Samsara. Simple as.