Anonymous ID: 8417d5 Aug. 20, 2020, 9:55 a.m. No.10358993   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9076

The Case for Masks, School Closings, & Social Isolation Just Collapsed!

 

https://www.redstate.com/michael_thau/2020/08/19/new-covid-study-no-symptoms-not-contagious-%E2%80%93-case-for-masks-school-closing-collapses/

 

The Annals of Internal Medicine just published a comprehensive new study on how contagious the COVID-19 virus is. And I’m sorry to report that the case for a number of popular new practices that seem to have filled some spiritual need a lot of Americans have for self-abasement just completely collapsed.

 

The list of practices no longer having any conceivable rationale includes:

 

Closing down schools.

Closing down gyms, barber shops, or any other businesses.

Limiting the number of patrons allowed in restaurants or other businesses at one time.

Mass testing for the COVID-19 virus.

Putting healthy people in quarantine.

Keeping a distance of 3, 6, or some other arbitrary number of feet away from healthy individuals.

Healthy individuals with no criminal intent wearing masks when it’s not Halloween.

Anonymous ID: 8417d5 Aug. 20, 2020, 10:02 a.m. No.10359076   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9211

>>10358993

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1292873236716433416.html

 

1/ There is growing evidence that T-cell immunity allows populations to reach herd immunity once only 10-20% are infected with SARS-CoV-2.

 

This would explain why a highly transmissible virus in densely populated areas peaked at 10-20% infected regardless of lockdowns or masks.

 

2/ The pervasive misconception is that we have zero immunity against COVID-19. Based on this flawed understanding, epidemiologists projected that herd immunity is not reached until 60-70% are infected.

 

This is almost certainly wrong.

 

Of course, the media ignores this research

 

3/ While antibodies against COVID-19 may only last months, T cell immunity can remain protective for years.

 

In a study of 23 people who survived SARS in 2003, every single one had memory T cells that recognized the SARS virus 17 years later. (Nature)

 

4/ Moreover, blood samples from all 23 individuals showed “robust cross-reactivity” against SARS-CoV-2.

 

This can be called crossover immunity.

 

Crossover immunity is not limited to just people who were infected with SARS years ago though.

 

5/ In the same study, in 37 persons with no history of SARS or COVID-19 (negative serology and/or samples taken before COVID-19), over 50% had SARS-CoV-2 specific T cells.

 

This is not surprising because there are at least 4 strains of coronaviruses that cause the "common cold".

 

6/ The above study is not the only one to show this level of cross-reactivity.

 

In a study from April 2020, in 68 healthy donors never exposed to COVID-19, 34% had T cells that reacted to SARS-CoV-2.

 

medrxiv.org/content/10.110…

 

7/ This finding was confirmed in yet another study published in Cell in June 2020 showing that 40-60% of unexposed individuals had T cell recognition of SARS-CoV-2.

 

The authors hypothesized that crossover immunity came from “common cold” coronaviruses.

 

8/ Crossover immunity may explain why so many young and middle-aged individuals are asymptomatic even when testing positive for coronavirus.

 

It is likely that their T cells recognized the virus and mounted an immune response before even mild symptoms surfaced.

 

9/ What does this mean?

 

All those runny noses from the common cold prepared our T cells to fight COVID-19.

 

Although it has been ominously called the “novel-coronavirus”, SARS-CoV-2 is yet another coronavirus with many similarities in structure to the common cold coronaviruses.

 

10/ Why are the elderly hit so hard by COVID-19 though?

 

Indeed the strain of coronavirus that we faced in 2020 is more lethal than those in the past, specifically in the elderly and immunocompromised…

 

11/ …With an understanding of T cell immunity, it makes sense that the elderly are more affected by COVID-19.

 

It is well known that persons in advanced age and/or who are immunocompromised lose T cells.

 

12/ Let’s get back to herd immunity via T cells.

 

If ~50% of people had T cell immunity prior to SARS-CoV-2, then that leaves 50% of the population susceptible.

 

In the regions hit hardest by COVID-19, serology studies show new cases and deaths peaked at around 10-20% infected.

 

13/ Adding the 50% who already had T cell immunity from common cold viruses to the newly infected 10-20% equals about 60-70% immunity.

 

Not coincidentally, 60-70% is the percentage epidemiologists project is necessary for herd immunity with a respiratory virus.

 

14/ It is likely that many of the hardest hit regions of the world (e.g. Lombardy, NYC, Madrid, London, Stockholm) are now at herd immunity.

 

Lockdowns & mask ordinances (mostly coming after the peak) likely had little effect, with the exception of perhaps prolonging the spread.

 

15/ Sweden is an example of what herd immunity looks like without lockdowns or masks.

 

Based on serology testing, ~20% of Stockholm was infected by April.

 

Deaths peaked in Sweden in April.

 

Today, the pandemic is over in Sweden with zero deaths per day & subsiding new infections

Anonymous ID: 8417d5 Aug. 20, 2020, 10:15 a.m. No.10359211   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>10359076

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1294269049296297984.html

 

1/ My thread on T-cell immunity got about 7 million views.

 

It's great to see so many people interested in understanding the science and medicine of this pandemic, even in a lengthy thread.

 

This thread is a response to the occasional criticism I saw floating around twitter.

 

2/ The most common criticism was "You aren't an immunologist or epidemiologist."

 

No I am not. I never pretended to be.

 

This criticism doesn't challenge the science and has little merit.

 

HOWEVER, here are just a few immunologists and epidemiologists with similar findings…

 

3/ Dr. Gupta, infectious disease epidemiologist and prof of theoretical epidemiology at University of Oxford.

 

"The pre-existing antibodies or T-cell responses against coronaviruses seem to protect against infection, not just the outcome of infection."

 

We may already have herd immunity - an interview with Professor Sunetra Gupta - Reaction

A study produced by a team at Oxford University indicated that some parts of the United Kingdom may already have … Continue reading "We may already have herd immunity – an interview with Professor Su…

https://reaction.life/we-may-already-have-herd-immunity-an-interview-with-professor-sunetra-gupta/

 

4/ Dr. Stadler, former director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Bern.

 

"This means that our T-cells, i.e. white blood cells, detect common structures appearing on Sars-CoV-2 and regular cold viruses and therefore combat both of them."

 

Coronavirus: Why everyone was wrong | by Back to Reason | Jul, 2020 | Medium

The original article was published in the Swiss magazine Weltwoche (World Week) on June 10th. The author, Beda M Stadler is the former director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of…

https://medium.com/@vernunftundrichtigkeit/coronavirus-why-everyone-was-wrong-fce6db5ba809

 

5/ Dr. Smita Iyer, immunologist at the University of California, studying immune responses to the novel-coronavirus in primates.

 

Cross-reactive T cells can “protect almost like a vaccine."

 

The coronavirus is new, but your immune system might still recognize it

A flurry of recent studies has revealed that a large proportion of the population — 20% to 50% of people in some places — might harbor immunity assassins called T cells that recognize the new coronav…

https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-coronavirus-immune-cells-20200807-lsdx34p2izh4zln5lhz2s6vyqy-story.html

 

6/ The 2nd criticism was that "T-cell cross-reactivity does not necessarily mean protective immunity."

 

This is why we must assess immunology studies in the context of the clinical and epidemiological findings of COVID-19, which is what I did in my former thread.

 

7/ The last criticism was it's "dangerous" to discuss T-cell herd immunity.

 

This suppression is even moving beyond social media platforms.

 

Dr. Gomes, a bio-mathematician, just had her pre-print rejected by journals simply bc it supported a lower herd immunity threshold (~20%).

 

8/ So now science and medical journals are suppressing research that doesn't fit the establishment narrative (e.g. "lockdown until vaccine").

 

Despite journals refusing to publish it, Dr. Gomes' pre-print can still be found here.

 

medrxiv.org/content/10.110…

 

9/ In conclusion, the science behind T-cell immunity and herd immunity should speak for itself—as long as the research is allowed to be discussed without suppression.

 

After all, history does not treat those who suppress science and medicine favorably.