Anonymous ID: 1ddd3a Aug. 31, 2020, 3:47 p.m. No.10487218   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7280

>>10486844

Given the median age of the victims and the high incidence of comorbidities, covid appears in many instances to be merely the precipitating cause of death - the accelerant, if you will. The probability of seriously infirm folks in their 80s living out the year is low, all other things being equal. It is irrational and reckless to impose draconian non-solutions on an entire population and economy when the maximum remaining term of life that might thereby be saved is negligible in relation to the whole. Not to mention the downstream second and third order effects of lockdowns on otherwise healthy people and on economic activity. Good public policy decisions are not typically made by fixating on the marginal cases and ignoring the vast generality of circumstances. Sufficient data has been available to make a course correction for many months, but government bureaucracy is inherently inflexible and politics has colored everything.

 

The important issue raised by the latest CDC data is that the vast majority of the population was at no material risk of death from covid, despite all propaganda and sensationalized anecdotes to the contrary. This will likely not get any mainstream airplay.

 

A conclusion that the whole covid shitshow was a “hoax” is not valid, though; at least not from these data. To sustain that argument would require evidence of a different kind.

Anonymous ID: 1ddd3a Aug. 31, 2020, 3:58 p.m. No.10487292   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>10487227

It’s the Case Fatality Rate vs Infection Fatality Rate. CFR will likely always be higher than IFR, for diseases of low overall lethality, as the extent of the spread is not transparent.

 

Cases are those people identified as suffering from the disease. But if the disease is such that the majority of infections are mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic, they will never be identified as cases. The true rate of infection has to be inferred from indirect studies, like serology - this is customarily done annually for influenza, where the majority of infections never rise to the level of counted cases.

 

About six weeks ago the CDC indicated that the IFR for covid was around 0.26% overall. That’s an average for cases generally. It’s higher for the elderly/infirm cohorts, but much lower for others.

Anonymous ID: 1ddd3a Aug. 31, 2020, 4:04 p.m. No.10487324   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>10487280

There’s a difference (or at least a passable difference) between a hoax and a hype.

 

A hoax would mean that no one died and the whole matter is a fabrication and tissue of lies. A hype would be a material distortion of a low grade reality into a magnified threat.

 

Perhaps we’re only discussing semantics, but if you want to make an unassailable case claiming manipulation and propaganda it helps to be precise.