>The thrust of this page should be aimed at the Corrupt Government of the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church.
What is the endgame?
Exposure?
Removal? Who will remove?
Prosecution? Who will prosecute?
Seizure of assets? What happens to assets?
I can see that… Unless I'm wrong, and I admit that I'm not up to speed on how all of this works, that doesn't sort out a stolen election and put the rightful person back in place.
>If you want to fight corruption then go ahead but at least appear able to differentiate between the Corruption and The Catholic Church.
I'm in the early stages of learning about all of this, but I'm old and have a lifetime of lived experiences. I think you need to be very clear on what your definition of the "Catholic Church" is. As I see it today,
this point in my life, the people at the top of the church are corrupt. Also, as I see it, even with corruption running the church, this does not mean that Christianity and Catholicism are bad or evil. Just the assholes at the top.
>Maybe I'm still concernfaggin, but exposure does not seem to matter. Just look at all the Joe/Hunter data released and didn't seem to make a hill of beans difference. It appears that Biden will make it to the WH.
I can see I didn't articulate this very well. I was referring to a large number of the general populus, extended family, etc. Not Q team & POTUS. I'm astounded by the numbers of people that simply ignored all that info.
>I want to believe they're is true punishment to come
Should be "there" and this was in reference to the evil at the top of the Catholic church and all aligned with it…
I think we are on the same page. It's the corrupt within that need to be removed. Take out the shit covered splinters, and the body can heal.
If I understand your post correctly, I am unwittingly complicit in "sliding" the topic. If correct, it is not my intention. As I mentioned in a previous post, I am looking forward to what the Pink Bunnies are doing. I'm still reading and learning. I have not had God in my life for a long time. I'm sure God's been with me, but I wasn't paying attention, (for lack of a better way to phrase it). For whatever reason, I'm now paying attention. This compels me to pay attention. I also told you that I'm not your man of the ground as I am no use to you there. However, I believe in what you are doing. I hope that is enough for now.
>I do not know what the truth is and so I seek.
At this juncture, for me, truer words have not been spoken. However, I struggle sometimes to separate the wheat from the chaff.
>my opponent wants to clip your mental wings and keep your mind down.
I also struggle to recognize these instances.
TY for your responses.
>An actual anons will punch you right in the dick for being an uneducated rookie joining the battlefield without proper training.
The above has brought me proper clarity. I am a patriot through and through. I served my country and know the oath well. However, I stepped into this with the intention of learning. It is now clear to me this is a battlefield and not the place for such.
I appreciate the light sack-tap as opposed to the solid dick punch. Lesson learned.
>Yeah typo's happen
In math typos can create errors in orders of magnitude. It is important to be accurate.
>There are a number of limitations on the data sources available to us.
So we work with what we have. Simple as that.
>which may have well been the intention behind the typos
I doubt it.
>Did you miss the part where i applied the same 16% from the sample group in the report to the total number of reported cases over 60 years.
Nope. I have an idea why you picked 60 years (bottom of an image that read 1950 through 2010). You conflated that with the data set from the Royal Commission's work…
> Now i don't exactly see why you reduced the timeframe to 35 years as the report collected cases from 1970 and onward.
The report in question clearly states:
> Other Data Sources:
>“Catholic Church authorities provided information about claims of child sexual abuse they received between 1 January 1980 and 28 February 2015 (the Catholic Church claims data). Of the 201 Catholic Church authorities surveyed, 92 authorities (46 per cent) reported having received one or more claims of child sexual abuse. Overall, 4,444 claimants alleged incidents of child sexual abuse in 4,756 reported claims to Catholic Church authorities.”
>Explain that then dimwit . how do you figure that 2.489 is 61% of the total of 15.249
It's not Mr. Retarded Magic Math. I explained this here:
>Next, 2,489 is 61.8% of 4,029
>61.8% of 15,249 is 9,424 (rounding to whole numbers)
>In other words, IF the entire lot of 15,249 had been interviewed, it is likely that 9,424 would have occurred in Catholic institutions.
Try as you might to twist this, but I'll explain this one more time for the slow folk.
Out of 4,029 interviewed people, 2,489 said it was connected to the Catholic Church. That is 61.8% of the interviewed data set. Again, (I'll repeat) by extrapolation, IF the entire group of 15,249 people would have been interviewed, it is likely that 9,424 (an equivalent percentage) would have said it was connected to the Catholic Church.
> But while you nitpick over 0.25%
Crikey! Still wrong! It's 2.31%! Hopeless.
In the end, I take it that you think 2.31% of all child sexual abuse attributed DIRECTLY to the Catholic Church is a small number, hence the reason you drag ever other demographic into this. FOCUS! The discussion is about the Catholic Church's role in the child sexual abuse! While I'm not ignoring any of the other 97.69% committed by "others", I'm certainly not the one doing everything he can to deflect away from the Catholic Church and say "But look over here!"
I'll pray for you. Now pay attention and get your shit together. You math lesson is over today.
Really???
They are two DIFFERENT data sets. You really should stop with the maths.
Hopeless.
Why is none of this taught in school (public/private)?
I have never heard of any of this.
>A few links to an idiot
Ouch. I would like to have thought of myself as simply uneducated on the subject matter… But if idiot fits your viewpoint…
Even me, the idiot, can see this is an oversimplification.
You continue to conflate Catholicism with the Papacy/Vatican.
Knowing the Papacy and Vatican are filled with evil, what would you do?
Would you crush the head of the snake and let the rest die off, or leave it as is for fear of the "possibility" that it would kill off what would be left of the good Catholics?
Humans have an astounding way of persisting. The good will find a way, and sadly the evil will too.
https://doi.org/10.1093/ejil/chv062
"Vatican Constitution, which was promulgated in 2000, the Pope ‘has the fullness of legislative, executive and judiciary power’."
So the Pope answers to no one?
Sir John Dalberg-Acton, 8th Baronet.
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
I appreciate the info and links that you and OP have provided. Much for me to absorb.
A note: I am aware that I get "triggered" by the apologist. I'm working on that. The pedophilia is personal for me. Someone near and dear to me has suffered for decades due to the atrocities they went through as a child. It took me a bit to figure out where the apologist stood. You and OP helped to open my eyes as to who he is, and for that, I am grateful.
I also realize this is not a chat-board and not a place for personal spillage, however, I felt the above note needed saying.
>incoherent ramblings and ignorant bullshit all free of charge
I'm certainly getting this from you, so I'm halfway covered! Thanks!
Curious, what was the price for your soul? Asking for a friend…
Bwaahhhaaahhhaaa!
Now I see it!
You are actually hurt that I didn't swallow your crap. The new guy, green to this but eager to learn! It just eat you up inside to know that people find truth in OP and the Pink Bunnys. You are lost if you do not find a way out of the box you are in.
>How ? I don't care about whatever (you) wish to swallow. Though I am amazed
>You are actually hurt that I didn't swallow your crap
Your response… I rest my case…
You've concluded that I have made a bad choice in my belief path. If that is so, is it not encumbrance upon you to find a way to show me the light? You haven't, you don't, and you won't.
You either do not see that you defend the indefensible or you do it knowingly. If it is the former, why can you not confess your sin and rectify? If it is latter, you are lost.
Teneo
https://www.teneo.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teneo
https://www.teneo.com/people/executive-leadership/
https://www.teneo.com/people/senior-advisors/
Declan Kelly - CEO of Teneo - Clinton connection
In 2007 and 2008 he was a leading adviser to Hillary Clinton during her presidential campaign, and in 2009 Clinton appointed him US Economic Envoy to Northern Ireland. In 2007 and 2008 he served as "one of the leading advisers" to Hillary Clinton during her presidential campaign, also organizing fundraising events for Clinton in New York, San Francisco, and Limerick. Explained the Irish Central, "he was often at her side during her election battle against Obama and became known as a fundraising wizard, personally raising millions and became a person the Clintons increasingly relied on." In July 2009 The Independent reported that Kelly was stepping down from his roles at FTI, despite that fact that Kelly had "been touted as a likely potential chief executive… But given his political experience, it was also expected that he could be tapped for some kind of political role. Kelly remained with FTI in a consulting capacity while observing a 2-year non-compete clause with the company.
https://peoplepill.com/people/declan-kelly-1/
Teneo
https://www.teneo.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teneo
https://www.teneo.com/people/executive-leadership/
https://www.teneo.com/people/senior-advisors/
Douglas Band - President of Teneo - Clinton Connection
Service in the Clinton Presidency. Band began working in the White House in 1995 during the Clinton Presidency as an unpaid intern in the White House Counsel's Office. Band then served on the White House Counsel's office staff for four years, eventually becoming a special assistant to the president, and then one of the youngest deputy assistants ever to serve a president. Band then served as the President's aide.
Post-presidential career. Band served as counselor and chief advisor to former President Clinton until 2012. He was "the key architect of Clinton's post-presidency." During Clinton's post-presidency, Band helped setup and advised President Clinton’s personal office and the Clinton Global Initiative and advised the William J. Clinton Foundation in its formative years. He created and built the Clinton Global Initiative. According to figures released by the Clinton Foundation, CGI raised $69 billion for 2,100 philanthropic projects around the world. Clinton has credited Band with CGI: "Doug had the idea to do this," also stating that he was "very grateful for the role that [Band] played when we started out."
According to emails from 2009 and 2011, which were published by Wikileaks and widely reported in tabloids, Russian media, and the conservative press, Band wrote a memo alleging that Bill Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, and her husband Marc Mezvinsky of conflicts of interest, with the latter raising money for his hedge fund from Clinton foundation donors and friends. In 2011, Chelsea Clinton accused Band of having conflicts of interest between his work at the Clinton Foundation and Teneo Consulting. According to Politico, the dispute eventually "degenerated" into a "dust-up" between Doug Band and Chelsea Clinton. Band resigned from working for the Clintons in 2012. Band negotiated with the Obama Administration to appoint then-Senator Hillary Clinton to become Secretary of State.
https://peoplepill.com/people/doug-band/
Teneo
https://www.teneo.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teneo
https://www.teneo.com/people/executive-leadership/
https://www.teneo.com/people/senior-advisors/
Teneo
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/teneo-final-221807
" With Bill Clinton serving in the paid position of honorary chairman, and Hillary as secretary of state, Teneo initially billed itself as a one-stop shop for “C-suite consulting,” a blend of public relations advice for CEOs and more technical investor relations work."
" Eight former employees and other sources with knowledge of the start-up or close to the Clintons told POLITICO that many Teneo clients received exposure to Bill Clinton, invitations to salon dinners filled with D.C. power players, or meetings at CGI with foreign leaders in the years immediately after the company's founding. They also said a key element of Kelly and Band’s pitch to new clients was donating to the foundation or joining CGI to “raise your leadership profile.”
" Kelly had met Band, often referred to as Bill Clinton's surrogate son, while volunteering for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. As a young college graduate, Band spent several years in the White House counsel’s office under Mills, and, at 27, became President Clinton’s personal assistant, carrying papers and keeping track of schedules. In Clinton’s post-presidency, when he helped engineer CGI, he became known as Bill’s gatekeeper, organizing meetings between the former president and world leaders."
" Government employees are typically restricted in their ability to receive outside income. But Hillary Clinton’s State Department expanded the use of “special government employees,” a relatively rare status originally created for scientists and others with unusual technical expertise that cannot be provided in-house. This allowed certain workers chosen by her or her staff, including Kelly, to receive money from private firms, including those who might potentially have business before the federal government."
"As president, Bill Clinton had created a “special envoy” post for Northern Ireland to help facilitate peace talks between fractured Irish leaders and the British, choosing former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell for the role. President George W. Bush continued that post."
In short, Teneo is deeply connected to the Clinton Machine.
Teneo was acquired by CVC Capitol Partners on June 2019 for $350M
Paul Ryan & Sen George Mitchell are Sr. Advisors to Teneo
Still digging but posting so others can throw in.
Sauce here:
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Any new info that can be shared from the Pink Bunnies?
Event(s) Status?
Event(s) timing?
Also,TY for the Angelfire info.
TY for this tread & info,OP
TY for the info and what you are doing, PB
Your efforts are not in vain