>>14900726

"Rape" doesn't enter into the equation of Christ's incarnation.

Mary wasn't violated.

Christ was formed strictly from her "seed",

her egg alone by the power of the Holy Ghost in whom she was enfolded.

God is indeed a king,

but He is the King of kings.

The kings are of fallen Man.

As the King,

God does not ask permission,

but what He never sins.

Rape is the purview of Man in his fallen nature,

not the nature of the Divine King.

However, though Jesus was indeed a Man,

He was also God the Word who came down from Heaven before His incarnation.

God doesn't sin,

which is why Jesus never sinned,

because He was (is) both fully God and fully man.

>>14900731

So it was to feed people "on the brink of starvation",

an ethereal scenario,

not an actual one.

Oldest scam in the book.

Give me money so this bad thing doesn't happen.

Gives money.

Bad thing doesn't happen.

See?

It worked!

That's only the lesser of the evil.

If money not given,

scammer will make sure the bad thing happens so he'll say,

See?

Because you didn't give money,

bad thing happened.

Extortion at its highest level.

>>14900735

Correct, Anon.

>>14900947

Free will refers to the freedom to choose to do anything within the limits of one's nature. A bird (generally speaking),

may fly anywhere it chooses.

What it cannot do is breath under water since that is not in his nature.

Fallen man may choose to do anything according to his fallen nature.

What he cannot do,

is something not encompassed within that nature.

That something is to submit to God.

This is because fallen man's mind is at enmity against God.

One born anew from above (John 3) is given a new nature,

one after that of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ sought to obey His Father because He loves His Father.

With this new nature,

one born anew is now free to submit to God who is his Father.

As a child of his Father in Heaven,

he would no more spurn his Father than a young child would do so against his father.

This is why Jesus said one must be as a child to enter into Heaven.

He was speaking of submitting to the Father in Heaven.

>>14900744

Is he going to his basement as that other charlatan had done?

>>14900769

Nonetheless,

the spoken portion is repetition.

Martin Luther revered Mary in his earlier unreformed state as a Catholic.

He later refuted all that.

>>14900797

He departed as he saw she understood what was about to occur in her based on her response.

I will address your other points to that other anon:

Note it states she was blessed "among" "women", not "above" women nor among "men".

This is because she was uniquely descended from David's direct line,

through Nathan,

the son of David who didn't fall to strange women as Solomon had,

and Christ was to be given His flesh from a woman and not from an earthly father.

Next, there is no "mother of God",

however,

that doesn't refer to that regardless.

That is referring to the Harlot when,

for instance,

she claims to be the "one true church",

and no others;

that no one can enter into heaven accept through her,

etc.

Saying Mother of God is exactly saying the mother of the Spirit of God,

for God is a Spirit,

and He is worshiped in Spirit.

Mary is not the mother of the Church.

The Mother is Heavenly Jerusalem,

who is the "mother" of all those in Christ because it is the Heavenly Jerusalem who preaches and keeps the Testimony of Jesus Christ.

>>14900835

But the Harlot's inversion is so much worse.

It tramples the blood of Jesus Christ by having made Him into a perpetual victim for sin.

The real Jesus Christ finished the wage required for the sins of His people,

proving their justification by rising from the dead.

The Harlot's perpetual victim goes backward in time to when Jesus was still on the cross,

effectively denying His Resurrection.

>>14900845

Perhaps in the early days during Trump's presidency.

I've long suspected this.

>>14900903

That anon is likely referring to the woman who said "blessed are the paps which suckled you and the womb which bore you" (paraphrased).

As to Christ telling John Mary was now his mother,

there is utterly no indication He made her everyone else's mother in Christianity.

Rather,

He handed her over to John to be her spiritual covering since His brothers were not yet reformed and believers.

As to the mother of Solomon in that instant he commanded a seat to be placed for her

(there is utterly no indication he had done so routinely or at any other time),

what she requested he denied,

and rebuked her.

So in that case,

Solomon's mother didn't influence anything,

and her advocacy on behalf of a traitor was rejected.

>>14900956

How can you pick out the mote in anon's eye when you have a beam in your own?

>>14901225

Yet,

think about this.

If there had truly been a placebo in the early days,

the doctors and nurses would not have been aware of this.

In administering this possible placebo,

they saw no ill effects and became comfortable with it.

They must be very confused and disturbed by now,

which is what we are in fact seeing as they begin to make their stand against covid mandates.

>>14901236

My apologies Anon.

However,

I do believe she was referring to the unique position in which she was as a descendant of David about to give birth to his Heir.

John was not Mary's son,

though she did have other sons,

possibly one of them one of the other Apostles,

not John.

This is true,

Mary is the mother of His flesh,

not of His Spirit.

>>14901330

>You think it's not significant that the Angel Gabriel also said "the Lord is with thee" in the same sentence?

I do? Please provide the quote I said that. In fact, it is significant because she was uniquely descended from David and was a woman, as Christ would not be born of an earthly father. I said that.

>This is pure speculation

That Christ was descended from David's son Nathan is born out in Mary's lineage provided in the Gospel Narrative.

>Yeah she is blessed by being of the line of David, but you don't see Archangels going around telling every decedent of David that they are Blessed, or that the Holy Spirit will come upon them and that they will give birth to the Son of God.

You might also note Mary's line from her mother. A close relative of Mary was Elizabeth, of the tribe of Aaron, and the family of Abijah. Therefore, Mary wasn't merely descended from David, but also from Aaron>Abiah, of the tribe of Levi. This reunion of family ties goes back to the beginning when Aaron's mother was of the tribe of Judah.

>>14901395

Not the tribe of Aaron,

the family of Aaron.

Sorry.

>>14901330

>As well you claim there is no Mother of God. This is some severe Cope. Who did the Angel Gabriel come to and declare they were Blessed and going to give birth to the Son of God?

The Son of God to be born was the Man, Jesus Christ.

She was the mother of that which was taken of her seed.

God the Word already existed.

He was not taken out of her seed,

but took on that which came of her seed,

His flesh and blood.

>>14901330

>Pure Cope again! Why do protestants only read what they want to read. Again from scripture Luke 35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Yes, of course He was the Son of God. That doesn't mean she's the mother of God as God doesn't have a mother. Jesus was the Son of God as His flesh taken only from her seed was generated by the power of God. The point of that was that Jesus was not the son of an earthly father. It was not addressing Mary's point of view, but that of Jesus.

>>14901330

>"Born of thee" clearly Mother Mary is the Mother of Our Lord. How you try to get around this must be mentally exhausting for you. It reminds me of how people say human life starts when a person is born, and not at conception. The mental gymnastics is brutal with you.

Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ the "our Lord". Elizabeth well knew who was in Mary's womb, the Heir of David, the King. As that Heir, Jesus was the King of Israel. The king of Israel was addressed as "Lord".