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Who Are the Historians Trying to Shape the Narrative?

On 1-7-2022, CNN reported that 2 historians are concerned about rising authoritarianism. Doris Kearns Goodwin (WH historian during LBJ Administration) and Timothy Snyder (expert on Central and Eastern Europe) spoke to the reporter to explain their concerns. Hint - Trump and his supporters = bad and Jan. 6 was real bad. Who are these historians? Are they objective voices? Are they part of the narrative? Do they have a dog in the race, so to speak? Anons can form their own opinions.

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CNN via MSN

Historians warn of coup unfolding in real time

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/historians-warn-of-coup-unfolding-in-real-time/vi-AASxRxR

Anon wants to know more about why these 2 historians are invested in discrediting President Trump and his supporters. They need serious diggs. How involved was Doris Kearns Goodwin in anti-Vietnam war activities? What does she know about the Kennedy assassination? What did Richard Goodwin (Doris' husband) know about the Kennedy assassination? How does the Ukraine and Central and Eastern Europe fit into the narrative of discrediting Trump and his supporters?

Doris Kearns Goodwin was a historian in the White House during theJohnson(LBJ) Administration. She even helped LBJ write his memoirs, which is odd because of her active opposition to the Vietnam war and her call for the removal of LBJ. Her husband was an aide and speechwriter in both the Kennedy and LBJ White House. To quote a May 21, 2018 Legacy.com piece, "NEW YORK (AP) — Richard N. Goodwin, an aide, speechwriter and liberal force for the Kennedys and Lyndon Johnson who helped craft such historic addresses as Robert Kennedy’s 'ripples of hope' and LBJ’s speeches on civil rights and 'The Great Society,'…". Anon can only wonder about the insights this couple must have had at a critical time in our nation's history.

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About Doris

https://doriskearnsgoodwin.com/about-doris/

Legacy.com

"Richard Goodwin (1931–2018), White House speechwriter" - By Kirk Fox May 21, 2018

https://www.legacy.com/news/celebrity-deaths/richard-goodwin-1931-2018-white-house-speechwriter/

Find a Grave - Richard N. Goodwin

-Author - Presidential Adviser

-inner-circles of

—John F. Kennedy Administration and Lyndon B. Johnson Administration

-composed several historic political speeches and is credited with coining the team "The Great Society"

-"Remembering America: A Voice From the Sixtes" (1988), served as the basis for the 1994 motion picture "Quiz Game"

-Tuffs University - Law degree from Harvard Law School

-United States Army

-clerk forSupreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter

-1960 joined John F. Kennedy speechwriting team which included Ted Sorensen

-White House authority on such matters as Latin America and Central and South America

-latter with Alliance for Progress and top adviser in the Peace Corps

-Johnson Administration - speechwriter and assistant -wrote the historic 'We Shall Overcome" speech - Johnson delivered to Congress on March 15, 1965

-disagreement with the Johnson administration on the direction of the Vietnam War

-(1966), he wrote the book "Triumph and Tragedy", which criticized America's involvement in Vietnam

-speechwriter for SenatorsRobert F. KennedyandEugene J. McCarthy

-"The American Condition" (1974) and "Promises to Keep: A Call for a New American Revolution" (1992)

-died of cancer

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/189927720/richard-n-goodwin

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Anon doesn't know what to think about this guy. He's an expert in central and eastern European history. In Anon's opinion, his biographies read like a sales pitch for his many, many, many publications. Have not found that he has refered to the Maiden Massacre by that name (will keep looking). Anon wonders what he knows about that event.

Timothy Snyder.org - bio - https://www.timothysnyder.org/bio

Timothy Snyder - Foundation for Polish Science

"PROF. TIMOTHY SNYDER – FNP PRIZE LAUREATE 2018" (born 1969)

-expert in the history of Central & Eastern Europe- speaks nine different languages, and is fluent in Polish

-professor of history at Yale University - Brown University - Oxford - connection to Prof. Jerzy Jedlicki

-Lectures at: College of Europe in Warsaw, Université Libre in Brussels, Leiden University, London School of Economics, Stanford

-cooperated with universities of -Paris, Vienna, Warsaw, Charles University in Prague, Harvard

-member of: theCouncil on Foreign Relations, Committee on Conscience of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna

-Awards:

–Pro Historia Polonorum award for his book Sketches from a Secret War: A Polish Artist’s Mission to Liberate SovietUkraine

–Jerzy Giedroyc Award for The Reconstruction of Nations: Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus, 1569–1999

–Literature Award of the American Academy of Arts and Letters - For Bloodlands

-works include:

–Nationalism, Marxism, and Modern Central Europe: A Biography of Kazimierz Kelles-Krauz

–co-author of Thinking the Twentieth Century

–editor of Stalin and Europe: Imitation and Domination, 1928–1953

–2015 - On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century

–decorated with theKnight’s Cross of the Order of Merit of the Republic of Poland

https://www.fnp.org.pl/en/prof-timothy-snyder-laureat-nagrody-fnp-2018/

Council on Foreign Relations - Timothy Snyder - https://www.cfr.org/membership/roster

You Tube Video -Timothy Snyder: Ukrainian History as World History 1917-2017 -Can some Anon please grab this video?- https://youtu.be/_Glhke6e2Io

The New Republic - "The Battle in Ukraine Means Everything

Fascism returns to the continent it once destroyed" - https://newrepublic.com/article/117692/fascism-returns-ukraine

Yale University

Department of History - Timothy Snyder - https://history.yale.edu/people/timothy-snyder

Not everyone is enamored with Timothy Snyder's historical perspective, as can be seen in the article below.

Jacobin - Timothy Snyder's Lies - https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/09/timothy-snyders-lies/

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More about Timothy Snyder.

Timothy Snyder: Putin’s essay on Ukraine creates mythical history to cover foreign policy failures

https://euromaidanpress.com/2021/12/08/timothy-snyder-putins-essay-on-ukraine-creates-mythical-history-to-cover-foreign-policy-failures/

City Journal

"Blurring Distinctions"

"As Timothy Snyder rises from academic hotshot to intellectual celebrity, the quality of his work declines."

Lee Siegel

July 13, 2021

"Shortly after the 2016 election, he publishedOn Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century, in which he

warned Americansthat

Trump could launch a fascist revolution. The book disturbed many historians, who believed that

Snyder was trafficking in alarmism."

https://www.city-journal.org/timothy-snyders-bad-history

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Timothy SnyderPDFbiography

https://history.yale.edu/sites/default/files/CV/Snyder-cvshort2013.pdf

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Timothy SnyderPDFbiography

https://history.yale.edu/sites/default/files/CV/complete_cv_with_links.pdf

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Anon also came across some other topics which may be connected in some way to this dig. Anons probably remember pastHolodomorposts. Well, to my surprise, I learned that Holodomor was a real starvation event perpetrated by Stalin againstUkraineand other countries includingKazakhstan. Decrees which collectivized agriculture were passed in order to disrupt food production. Wealthy landowners and farmers who resisted collectivization were deported to other locations or killed. Millions of people died. Australia is on Anon's mind after learning this. Bill Gates buying up farmland and Black Rock buying up houses also comes to mind.

Britannica - Holodomor

1932-1933 Famine - Mass Starvation

Part of larger 1931-1934 Russian Famine - Mass Starvation

Cause = Stalin collectivization of agriculture. Confiscated land and gave to the collective. They also deported wealthier peasants and those who would not accept the collective system. 5 million Russians died of hunger, including 3.9 million Ukrainians. Kazakhstan also suffered mass starvation.

"The Ukrainian famine, however, was made deadlier by a series of political decrees and decisions that were aimed mostly or only at Ukraine. In acknowledgement of its scale, the famine of 1932–33 is often called theHolodomor, a term derived from theUkrainian wordsforhunger (holod)andextermination (mor)."

https://www.britannica.com/event/Holodomor

U of MN - Holodomor

https://cla.umn.edu/chgs/holocaust-genocide-education/resource-guides/holodomor

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The Maiden Massacre also came to Anon's attention during this dig. This Consortium News Maiden Massacre article reports thatphysical evidence "disappeared". It also discusses the misinterpretation, by officials and media, of what people at the scene were saying. (Anon can't help but think of a certain reporter's assurance that NASCAR fans were chanting "Let's Go Brandon".) There are alleged CNN misrepresentations of the events. Prosecutors allegedly funded "volunteers" who worked up what the article says are inaccurate 3-D models of the events. A NY architecture firm was involved in the creation of the 3-D models.

"The Buried Maiden Massacre and Its Misrepresentation by the West"

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/04/22/the-buried-maidan-massacre-and-its-misrepresentation-by-the-west/

MRonline - Maiden Massacre

Some highlights of this article, which Anons are sure to find interesting, are:

-2 protesters who lured other protesters into the kill zone

-officials and media refusal to investigate evidence which is not in support of their narrative

-Crimea connections

-alleged set up of government forces as the shooters

-77 of 157 protesters were not wounded by Berkut positions

-false claims (of being shot) by at least one person

https://mronline.org/2021/12/11/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine/

NYU Jordan Center - Maiden Massacre

https://jordanrussiacenter.org/news/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine-revelations-from-trials-and-investigation/#.YdpLXNHMLIX

FRN - Ukraine's Maiden Snipers

"Ukraine’s Maidan Snipers Were U.S. Assets From Georgia"

https://fort-russ.com/2019/10/ukraines-maidan-snipers-were-u-s-assets-from-georgia/

FRN - Confessions of Maiden Snipers

https://fort-russ.com/2019/10/confessions-of-maidan-snipers/

For this Anon, the Maiden Massacre changes my opinion of what happened in DC on Jan. 6, 2021. Anon used to think that Jan. 6 was a loss for Patriots across the US. Look at the Maiden Massacre information above. Think about the 2 Maiden protestors wholuredother protesters into the kill zone. Think about Jan. 6 "protesters" and police encouraging people to enter the capital on Jan. 6. Think about false narratives around the Maiden Massacre. Think about false narratives around Jan. 6. Anon now believes that Jan. 6 was a win for the US and Patriots because a massacre did not happen. Anon believes that White Hats were aware of events which were planned for that day and they were able to prevent something really terrible from happening. Thank You White Hats.

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