The first step to hypnosis is to ply suggestions on a target in terminology (wording/phrasing is a heavy subset). The media are pretty sloppy at it, once you know what to look for.

The following is highly explosive, liberal hitpeice on Trump:

"First, don’t use logic or rationality to try to understand or counter Trump’s statements and behaviors."

"Holding onto the opposites of realism and optimism is the best antidote"

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/27/inside-the-mind-of-donald-trump-219074

What's the opposite of realism?

What's the opposite of optimism?

Why would they want the Donald Trump attackers to stop using logic or reason?

What are they truly concerned about happening here?

Remember, it basically says: don't use logic to understand Trump's tweets.

Why would they say that?

If Trump's tweets are illogical, irrational, wrong or false, why must logic be 'switched off'?

What's the psychological ploy here?

You already know the answer why.

Why so obvious?

Why in such plain sight?

Desperation, like Q says?

What happens to liberals if you show them this section?

Do they agree with you, or do they try to defend it?

What's the definition of a cult?

How do you break a cult?

Has a cult been recently dismantled?

There's substantially more overlap than you realise.

>>2332725

>What shall we discuss today?

There's many topics that could be covered, all of them equally as fascinating, but not necessarily all of them immediately pertinent to your current situation. Continuing with media, because to break their stranglehold is at the forefront of winning this battle.

Consider who it is the media are trying to convince, and why?

Nothing they say would stand up in a court of law. They're not trying to convince law enforcement. They are not trying to convince a panel of peer reviewists. They are not even trying to convince any company of any proposal.

Who are they trying to convince?

Would you say that, the media would not waste their time trying to convince people, if they were truly powerless?

Why is it, every dictatorship, hinges on the very definition of propaganda?

Why is propaganda even needed in a dictatorship? If Hitler has SS, and he can make people disappear, why even bother writing newspapers for the public to consume?

Who are dictators admitting have the real power? 'Bread and circuses'. 'Dog and pony show'.

Why is it the media aren't going: Donald Trump, here are the reasons why you are wrong blah blah but going:

'Here's why Donald Trump is stupid' (who are they addressing/trying to convince?)

What purpose does convincing you serve? Find the reason, find the power. The trigger words are important here.

Also, to dogtail back to this thread.

Who are the shills trying to convince?

If you're not even in 'positions of power', why even bother?

Do shills/media share the same purpose? The same audience? Even… the same influencing company?

What happens when shills come up against a well-armed opponent who knows how to argue facts, information, concretely, soundly, without provocation?

Do they continue the engagement, or just 'disappear'?

Why disappear? Why not just continue?

What are they worried about happening to their reputations?

Who are they trying to convince in a 'debate'? Me?

Or the audience?

And do they convince via facts or attempts to discredit?

Same approach to Trump/Q etc? Even to you? Others?

Did the CIA use discreditation tactics? Propaganda move? Black/grey/white propaganda? Why even waste time going toe-to-toe with people on a board if theories are baseless?

Once you see the media and the shills speak with the same voice, it will become easier and easier to discern whose voice it actually is.

(The shills in this thread were legally ignorant, does that sound familiar? Who else is legally ignorant? Since when does 'intent' factor into Espionage? Why would anyone bother given intent is hard to prove. Why would an FBI agent make such a massive mistake? Who else is breaking the law? 'I'm an illegal immigrant Bill de Blasio'?)

Who is Bill trying to convince? What he said is a confession, and makes him legally liable. No police. Why say it if he knows it's illegal?

There's many layers to this. I drop hints in various places.

>>2332969

>Surrealim, dream(deep?) , irrationalty

Q said:

"Dream to reality."

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1945895.html#1946203

"Jason Bourne (Deep Dream)."

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/150208420/#150212477

Remember what I wrote earlier? CIA advising movies, more real than fantasy?

"Dewey is scheduled to attend the convention for a public debate on privacy rights with Aaron Kalloor, CEO of social media giant Deep Dream."

"Dewey intends to use Deep Dream for real-time mass surveillance alongside the latest incarnation of the CIA's targeted assassination 'Beta' program, known as "Iron Hand"."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bourne_(film)

"layed by Riz Ahmed in the film, Kalloor appears to be the Bourne universe equivalent to Zuckerberg, Facebook's famous founder."

https://www.bustle.com/articles/175006-is-aaron-kalloor-based-on-mark-zuckerberg-in-jason-bourne-the-tech-giant-seems-very-familiar

ALPHAS, ('Beta' program).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphas

It's obvious when you know what to look for.

Jason Bourne, dream to reality:

https://diply.com/what-the-facts/article/details-about-jason-bourne-program

>Nihilism, et al

Pessimism. What emotional states evoke pessimism?

Would you say a person seeks therapy if they're extremely d__?

Why does the Politico article refer to regular beatings in a camp?

What conditioning techniques were used in Manchurian Candidate?

Where did they get captured? (North Korea? Then moved to China?)

You will need to read the book (the original).

Local library is likely to have a copy.

It will contain many references to actual scientific studies.

>>2333057

This shill shows you how disgusting they get, when desperate.

Designed to traumatise, provoke a reaction, dehumanise.

Over the target.

People like this will go first.

>>2333002

A good choice of word, but the opposite of realism (implied) is fantasy. Opposite of optism is pessimism. Why would the rallying cry of Trump's opponents be (to their own) 'go to your safe space and get depressed'?

Prelude to conditioning? 'Don't question our orders'?

Contrast to here: WWG1WGA. A unifying rallying cry of hope.

Someone said 'we already knew they don't use reasoning', but if that was the case, why ask people to switch it off?

Concerned people will see the truth and defect?

Have some already done so?

Looks like they're trying to stem losses by saying 'don't read this, don't look here'.

>>2333211

All good points.

Their aim is to not only distract, but to convince you to accept their views as verboten. They know no-one on the Qanon board will believe their own garbage about Qanon, so who are they trying to convince?

Why did communist China ban books?

It's a battle to control the narrative, your views, your opinions.

If you're opposed to Trump you'll attack Trump. You'll donate to their causes. You will cover up and deflect their crimes.

But if you think, you'll approach independently, dispassionately, you'll argue well constructed arguments for or against a point, and you'll start to expose.

The key here is, how many of the people of America, right now, are in agreement with each other?

Doesn't matter how many the dems 'car pool' into out-of-state voting manipulation. Because all they're doing is duplicating votes. Do they really have 50%?

What if the majority of Americans were tired of the incessant garbage produced by the media, and the only ones arguing against were just the paid shills?

The only problem was, they all just didn't realise, and think they're isolated, or the only ones? Or just couldn't prove their suspicions?

Are you ready for the influx of 'migrants' from facebook?

When facebook collapses, where will they all go?

"Bobby Kennedy assassin brainwashed by 'girl in polka dot dress' "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8483148/Bobby-Kennedy-assassin-brainwashed-by-girl-in-polka-dot-dress.html

"Derren Brown - The Experiments: The Assassin (Full)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA

Recommend viewing video through a Tor browser.

Any similarities?

>>2333502

>For example, to try to convince a populace that a certain action, (oh, let's pick for example), a coup, was necessary, was widely popular, when it was not.

Or even to aid and abet in an ongoing crime.

The CIA have moved on from the messy period of murders. They work a hierarchy: simple discouragement, threats, discredits, frame-ups, accusations, 'guilt by association', legal actions (EG civil tort, criminal case), attempting to drive insane, commit to a mental institution.

They don't touch murder except as a last resort - when nothing else works. Even then, coups, assassinations are cliche, they go for 'accidental' murders first (EG Michael Hastings car crash - consequently, does Vault7 contain any references to CIA hacking car controls?), then onto murders that can be discredited (EG placing a petrol generator in the house so it looks like owner 'accidentally' poisoned themselves with CO2), before finally trying to outright kill - first through hired thug, then through an assassin if the security is too high.

>What country was not quite finished with its Revolutionary War while another country was building a naval base at Sevastapol on the Crimean Peninsula in 1783?

America(n revolutionary war).

Puts things into context, historically.

>>2333626

>May I confess I am old-school, no computer, phonefag. I refuse apps, never on Twtr of Fbk? Never been to Reddit either.

If Android, Orfox is the Tor equal. Although you should be able to view the video fine if in America without Tor, the recommendation is there in-case anyone encounters any, ahem, 'issues'.