>>16656874

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Same type of rumors are circulating amongst some anons about a giant being chained = imprisoned under the Vatican somewhere in the catacombs. We already know that the King of kings and the Evil One died when the Cataclysm was triggered, and we have 5 Sebetti rulers walking the Earth after the Cataclysm. We have located 4 out of the 5 Sebetti’s whereabouts already in this thread; and I have figured out where the last one is. So if this theory of a giant being imprisoned under the Vatican is true, which Sebetti ruler is it?

I don’t think it’s Viracocha. The possible locations of where Viracocha’s remains are: Area 51, or even Denver airport, both located in the US. Another possible location in the US for Viracocha’s remains is the Hoover damn. The Sebetti rulers release a great amount of Spiritual power, so to mask this big power of Viracocha, (((they))) used the damn. It’s a possibility, a theory, if you want. This idea of using Hoover damn to hide Viracocha’s Spiritual power was in the movie called Transformers where (((they))) projected the idea by hiding Megatron under the damn – see picture I’ve attached with this page. It’s possible.

As I’ve mentioned before, another possible location of where (((they))) are keeping the remains of Viracocha along with the Sebetti warriors is Antarctica. I don’t think the remains were kept in one place for a long time though. It’s highly possible that the remains were moved from lab to lab for a variety of reasons along the last 200 years, almost. Regardless of the exact location, I don’t think the remains of Viracocha are under the Vatican if the theory of having giants imprisoned there is true/correct.

This leaves us with 4 other Sebetti rulers: 2 males and 2 females. We know the Bloodlines hold the Vatican dearly to (((their))) hearts. But why the location of the Vatican was picked and not Alexandria, or Constantinople, or Antioch, or Ephesus, or Paris etc.? We can say that the reason is that Vatican was in Rome and Rome was the capital of the Roman Empire; so it’s like the Catholic Church was born there and the Vatican kinda inherited the place organically. Well, I think this is a shallow type of thinking, because when it comes to the Bloodlines nothing is simple and nothing is transparent. And we shouldn’t forget that the Roman Empire was run from the shadow by (((them))). (((They))) were the true rulers of the Empire = the shadow government. A lot of my colleges compare rightfully the Roman Empire’s structure to that of the United States and find incredible similarities in the way both are ruled and the composition of society and the economy. The fate of both was supposed to be destruction by financial ways and by crumbling under the many waves of migrants. It succeeded for the Roman Empire, but it didn’t for the States, because someone SAW through it and put a stop to it all.

As I just said, when you look at the Vatican, you cannot help by notice its value to the Bloodlines. It’s a place which has an importance to (((them))) to a point that (((they))) made it one of the three pillars of (((their))) international order = the Vatican is the religious capital/center of the Bloodlines. As a bonus, there is an Obelisk there as well.

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>>16657029

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When you walk in the Vatican, mostly in the Vatican Museum, you have this feeling like it’s a Museum dedicated to the Horned Serpent history, but mostly to the Evil Couple. Sure, not all the artifacts and exhibits are those “evil” things or represent the Horned Serpent Clan; some are of the Light which the Horned Serpents take as being (((their))) legitimate, rightful belonging. Or it may represent/project something to the Horned Serpents, like the statue of Perseus holding the decapitated head of Medusa. Medusa was a Horned Serpent female warrior and Perseus defeated her; so here it’s mostly a projection of a specific battle from a distant past. And I’m sure this is not the only artifact of its kind. I’m sure there are artifacts projecting the Light side as well, or are indicating some Atlantean technology made by the Light clan survivors. So not all is bad in there, but the majority is. Don’t forget (((they))) are collectors. We gotta clean the place up as well.

Oh yes, we really do need to clean the place up. I see a lot of artifacts in that place which are pointing to the Horned Serpent in general, as I just mentioned, but specifically the artifacts are projecting the Evil Couple. Let me give you a few examples of what I’m talking about here:

Let’s talk about Michelangelo’s work a bit. I’ve already mentioned the statue of David’s possibility being the statue of the Evil One = having his facial features (picture in page 2 090). When we take a look at the other sculptures done by Michelangelo which are highly praised by the Vatican and are considered (((their))) “prime” art pieces, we start to find something is off about these statues. Like what? Well, like the Pieta statue. La Pieta supposedly represents the Virgin Mary weeping and grieving the death of her son = Christ, while holding his body after it was taken down from the Cross. It’s a very sad scene. But what is “strange” about La Pieta is the AGE of the Virgin Mary.

It is said that the Virgin Mary was 15/16 years old when she gave birth to Christ and we know that Christ died when he was 33 years old. So 33+16 = that makes the age of the Virgin Mary something between 48/49 years old when Christ died. Now take a very close look at the face of the Virgin Mary in La Pieta, does this look like the face of a woman close to 50 years of age? It looks like she is in her 20s, not knocking on the door of 50 years old. This “face” has caused a lot of controversy and disputes along the years, just like the statue of David has done. We old men think the face of the Virgin Mary was substituted with that of the Evil Lady and this is not the Virgin Mary weeping Christ we see in La Pieta, but actually the Evil Lady weeping the Evil One’s death. Remember how Ishtar shrieked when the explosion happened? And remember what I explained to you back then? This is not the first attempt by the Bloodlines to substitute the image/ iconography of Neith, at first, and then of the Virgin Mary, with the iconography and symbolism of the Evil Lady.

(((They))) have been trying to do it with the Virgin Mary subtly now for some time, but till now, it’s not working. We’ve already seen how (((they))) are trying to switch/substitute the authentic iconography of the Virgin Mary crushing the head of the serpent (page 2 033) by the iconography of the Evil Lady with a crescent (page 2 035), under the excuse, the pretense to merge between Christian and Islamic symbols. In both religions, the Virgin Mary doesn’t need symbols. She is herself, crushing the Evil One’s head. She doesn’t need any symbol of any sort. So this is how (((they))) are trying to slowly, subtly, substitute the iconography of the Virgin Mary by that of the Evil Lady. And when we look at La Pieta, it seems (((they))) have been trying to do that for centuries now.

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>>16657034

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David and La Pieta are not the only “strange” statues by Michelangelo. His most famous statue of Moses is highly controversial as well. This has also made a lot of people outraged, just like the 2 previous statues did. The reason for all the trouble is the HORNS on the head of Moses. This generated a lot of outrage for a long long time and combined with the other statues and art work from Michelangelo, a lot of people have started to question if he was not a Satanist; which we believe he was.

And ironically, he was depicting things right, in a correct manner. People will ask me: why did he depict Moses with horns? The answer is rather simple = it’s because Moses was a warrior of the Horned Serpent Clan. Here, the reader of this thread, have a visual of what I was telling you about the fairy tale of Moses (starting page 2 100). When the outrage grew too much with time, the horns on the statue of Moses at the Vatican were said to be some sort of misunderstanding from the part of the people, and what Moses has on his head is some sort of headband, or these are his hair locks, etc…. Just any type of excuse to diverge the narrative of these being horns on top of Moses’s head.

But you see anons, Michelangelo was NOT the ONLY MiddleAge/Renaissance artist whom depicted Moses with horns ^_^ It’s many artists whom did that as you can see in the picture I’m putting with this page. These works of art (if you can call them that anymore) are physical, tangible proof that the Bloodlines controlled the Vatican since then and in the same time (((they))) knew since then that Moses was a warrior from the Horned Serpent Clan.

And when we look at WHEN the statues and other artifacts of the Evil Lady = Atargatis = Artemis of Ephesus were shipped to the Vatican; it also indicates since when (((they))) controlled the Vatican and also since when (((they))) knew that Atargatis is (((their))) mommy = the Mother of Demons. It’s very clear, when you take a look at the artifacts, projecting the history of the Horned Serpent Clan and the Evil Couple, were shipped to the Vatican, you will realize how long the Vatican has been under (((their))) control because, after all, (((they))) are collectors and the Vatican is just another museum (((they))) own.

So when we take an overall look at just the artifacts and art in the Vatican, you will start to realize that it’s a special place for the Horned Serpent Clan, as if it was a place where (((they))) gathered (((their))) memory = (((their))) history. It’s like a place of homage to the Evil Couple, where (((they))) pay tribute to them. Which made us wonder why this specific city and not any other? That is until we came to this board and spend some time lurking. As mentioned before, some anons were talking about a giant being imprisoned under the Vatican. So that got us thinking overdrive. We started to wonder if this is true or not, and if it’s true, then which Sebetti ruler it is that (((they))) have down there.

When I put these 2 ideas/theories together, I realized that the chances are high = it’s highly possible, that the Sebetti ruler supposedly imprisoned under the Vatican could be the Evil Lady. And all of the Vatican was constructed as a HUGE SHRINE for her, all around her, as a huge burial place for her. All the human sacrifices that take place there, are for her. But….is it truly her remains down there? We know (((they))) have been confusing her with Neith, so is it truly her down there? Or is it Neith’s remains, mistaken to be hers by (((them)))?

And another question is bugging me: where did (((they))) find the remains of this female Sebetti? If it was the Evil Lady, was she found in Mesopotamia? In the Taurus Mountain Chain? In Asia Minor? Or in Ephesus itself? If it was the remains of Neith, but mistaken to be the remains of the Evil Lady, then…where did (((they))) find her remains? In Ancient Egypt? Under the Sphinx, maybe in that mysterious room? Was it in the Valley of the kings?

What I’m talking about here is theoretical of course…. Too much “maybes” and “ifs”. I also really doubt we will ever be told the truth about it all since such “secrets” are considered of the highest classifications ever = the Sebetti rulers are probably the biggest secret (((they))) hid from us.

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>>16657068

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A lot of anons reading this thread might think that I’ve gone all senile and finally lost it. Well, what if I’m on the right track? Has anyone ever checked the name of the place = Vatican? Where does it come from? Let’s take a look at this: https://www.ancientpages.com/2020/06/06/name-vatican-etruscan-goddess-vatika-underworld-connection/

“The Name Vatican And Etruscan Goddess Vatika Of The Underworld – What Is The Connection?

June 6, 2020

Ellen Lloyd - AncientPages.com - The Vatican is a symbol of Christianity. We are today so used to the name that we hardly think about how the Vatican got its name. The truth is that the name Vatican is neither Latin nor Greek and it cannot be traced to the Bible either.

The word we associate with the Church is closely linked to the Etruscan goddess Vatika. As you are about to find out, the name "Vatican" predates Christianity and is shrouded in mystery.

Inside The Vatican City State

The Vatican City State was founded on February 11, 1929. Located in Rome, Italy, it is the world’s smallest independent country by both population and area. The city has a population of around 840 and an area of approximately 108 acres (44 hectares).

The Vatican is a symbol of the Roman Catholic faith and its power and influence on religious people cannot be denied and the Holy See’s authority extends over Catholics throughout the world.

The Vatican Palace, north of St. Peter’s Basilica is the residence of the Pope within the city walls. The Vatican is famous for its beautiful buildings such as the Sistine Chapel, St. Peter's Square and St. Peter's Basilica. The Vatican Museums are filled with masterpieces of painting, sculpture, and other works of art collected by the popes through the centuries. The Vatican Apostolic Library is located inside the Vatican Palace.

The Vatican Library was founded in 1451 AD and holds over 80,000 manuscripts, prints, drawings, plates, and incunabula (books printed prior to 1500 AD) written throughout history by people of different faiths from across the world.

To make ancient material available to the public, some years ago, the Vatican Apostolic Library started digitizing its valuable ancient religious manuscripts and putting them online via its website. In 2014, the Vatican Library had 4,000 ancient manuscripts available online for free.

The Vatican's secret archives are not as secret as many think. In 1881, Pope Leo XIII allowed scholars to visit the private archives for the first time and in modern times it’s possible to get access to the documents, but outsiders must know what they are looking for because with 52 miles of shelves in the archives, the librarians prohibit browsing.”

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>>16657071

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“The Etruscan Goddess Vatika Of The Underworld

The name Vatican is a true mystery. It has nothing to do with the Bible, Greek language, or Latin. Like many other Christian traditions and customs, the name we associate with the Church has a pagan origin.

More than twenty-eight centuries ago, and before the legendary founding of Rome by Romulus and Remus, there were people called the Etruscans.

>> Although it is not admitted nor accepted by the Main Stream History, we know after the collapse of the Hittite Empire, the Hittites migrated in many waves into Europe. Some went to Greece where they merged with the locals, others went to Italy and formed the Etruscans with locals and others became the Franks and the German tribes.

“About 3000 years ago, the Etruscans settled in a region of Central Italy was known as Etruria and they ruled the region of the Mediterranean before the rise of Rome.”

>> Not a single mention of the Phoenician colonies and their trade relationship with the Etruscans.

“We are still trying to master the difficult language of the Etruscans, but over the years we have learned a lot about their beliefs and daily lives. In fact, most of the knowledge we possess about Roman civilization comes from the Etruscans.

The Etruscans did not bury their dead inside the walls of their cities. Instead, they built a large cemetery on a hillside slope outside of their ancient city in the area that later became the city of Rome.”

>> First of all, the Etruscans were not the only ones whom used to bury their dead extra muros = as in outside of the city walls. Secondly, in the previous digs, I’ve already noticed and I made comments about the fact that the Bloodlines choose a ground where a lot of people died or are buried there to build something of (((theirs))) on it. It’s like (((they))) pick a place where there is a lot of spiritual energy concentrated there. It’s an observation from my part.

“Sadly, most of Etruscan literature and mythology have been lost, but we know that the guardian of this necropolis was the Etruscan goddess Vatika (sometimes spelled Vatica). She was the goddess of the Underworld and it was her duty to keep a watching eye on those who had passed away.

The Etruscans believed in an afterlife but our knowledge about it is derived mainly from images and artifacts discovered inside their tombs. It seems that the Etruscan’s beliefs about the afterlife were similar to those of ancient Egyptians. Treatment of the deceased's remains was important for survival and a successful journey to the next life.”

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>>16657080

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“Vanth, an Etruscan death daemon and servant of Charun (Greek Cheiron), lord of the Underworld was often depicted on urns that held the ashes of cremated bodies. Vanth was usually depicted with wings and had bearded snakes entwined around her arms.”

>> Can anons guess whom these 2 are? ^_~

“According to Etruscan mythology, Vanth was present from the moment of death until entry into the Underworld.

Where Does The Name Vatican Come From?

Vatika had several other related meanings in ancient Etruscan. The name was not only associated with the goddess of the Underworld. Vatika was also a bitter, not well-tasting grape used by a peasant to produce cheap wine. The grape as well as a weed with the same name grew on the slope. When people ate it, they experienced hallucinations, and the word passed on into Latin as a synonym for “prophetic vision”. The Latin word 'vaticinor' means "foretell, prophesy" from 'vatis' - "poet, teacher, oracle".”

>> I would like to ask anons to be careful about the prophecy ability mentioned here. This is drug or hallucinogenic induced fantasy. This is waaayyy different from the true Seers/Oracles. The Seers don’t need to take any type of drug or hallucinogenic in order to get a vision or get in contact with the Light. They do not go into trances, but they simply wait for the messages to be given to them. We know about this not just because of the young man, but also because of the Saints; like the ones we’ve seen in this thread before. The Seers, either get the message while they are awake or when they sleep = in dreams. Saint Paisios is a good example, as well as Saint Charbel. Please go back and re-read how Saint Charbel communicated to many people, you will understand that the Seers of the Light do not need any drugs to communicate with the Spiritual world. It’s the Dark side that needs it because when you turn Dark = Evil, you lose your Spiritual power; so if you had the power to See and you turned Dark, you will lose that ability. This is why (((they))) use drugs, hallucinogenic stuff and trances to get in touch with the spiritual world. “Naturally born” Seers don’t need that. This has lead even some people = simple humans with no inborn ability, to use drugs, alcohol and others, in order to get in touch with the spiritual world = either the dark side or the light side. The True Seers = the ones from the Lamassu Clan, with the GENES = the genetic code which activates their Oracle powers, do NOT need anything to get in touch with the Spiritual world. It’s people whom don’t have the genes = the ability whom uses these things.

“Biblical sources have various explanations for the origin of the name Vatican. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, the origin of the name Vaticanus is uncertain; some claim that the name comes from a vanished Etruscan town called Vaticum.

However, according to a Vatican curator, the Vatican Hill takes its name from the Latin word Vaticanus, a vaticiniis ferendis, in allusion to the oracles, or Vaticinia, which were anciently delivered here.

So, we can conclude by saying that the origin of the name Vatican is unclear, but most researchers think the name was borrowed from the Etruscan language.”

>> What do you say anons? Does the Vatican take its name from the Etruscan goddess of the Underworld Vatika or not? Please take a look at the second picture I’m attaching with this page = it’s a comparison of the spark between the horns (1) and the design of the Vatican (3). We have 3 Sebetti clans with a horned heraldic animal, but if we connect this with the name of the goddess of the Underworld Vatica and the “Art” inside the place, then this specific design of the spark between the horns is that of the Evil Lady. And the Obelisk is placed just in the middle to transmit that Spiritual energy. Remember what I said about the Obelisk when we took a look at them?

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>>16657103

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Let’s do some more reading about the Etruscan goddess Vatika: https://allinnet.info/antiquities/from-the-etruscan-goddess-vatika-to-the-vatican/

“From the Etruscan Goddess Vatika to the Vatican

By Vigen Avetisyan / February 9, 2022

Etruscan Goddess Vatika. Vatika or Vaticanus is the archaic Etruscan name of the Goddess associated with birth and the underworld.

This name, also called Vaticanus or Vaginatus, later came to mean the Latin, Vagina, that is, the female reproductive organ. The Vatican, which has its own lands in Italy, takes its name from this Goddess.”

>> This article is surely different big time from the previous one isn’t it? The previous one was written in a careful way = with political correctness. This one is blunt and says it as it is.

“This was a Necropolis, that is, a cemetery. They named it after the Goddess Vatika, who was also associated with the underworld.

Constantine, the first Catholic emperor, had a temple built on this hill, known as the Vatican Hill. A few centuries later, the papal palace was built.

This is how Vatika, a pagan goddess of Etruscan origin, gives her name “Vatican”. Statue of the Etruscan Goddess of the underworld, Vatika, who guards the city of the dead or necropolis, where the Vatican stands today.

The symbol in the middle of her forehead is the Vagina, which is also the symbol of her own name, and represents fertility.”

>> I disagree with the interpretation meaning fertility. This is the Evil Lady we have here anons. Just by reading the text it’s more than clear Vatika is an aspect of the Evil Lady seen through the eyes of the Etruscans. Everything mentioned in this paragraph is a characteristic of the Evil Lady, including the vagina which doesn’t represent here fertility but actually represent the sacred prostitution. I don’t need to explain things in detail here because anons already know well the Evil Lady by now and they see her characteristic in Vatika.

The picture I’ve attached with this page came with this article. I’m smiling from ear to ear anons. This Etruscan relief of the goddess Vatika is proof of everything I’ve been telling you about the Evil Lady = she is the leader of the Antelope Clan. Look carefully at the shape of the horns = Antelope; the ears are there to confirm it as well. Some like to call it the goat, some like to call it the gazelle. I like to stick to the oldest name of it found in pre-dynastic Ancient Egypt artifacts (the palettes, etc.) = the Antelope.

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>>16657117

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A bit more reading about the goddess Vatika: https://aveo-scire.com/?p=85

“March 29, 2021

Sea People IV: Vatika

This Holy Week, as Pope Francis guides all Roman Catholics in the celebration of the Passion and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ from the Vatican, we may ask ourselves …where does the word ‘vatican’ comes from?…

Roman scholar and historian Marcus Terentius Varro (116–27 BC) suggested that the Vatican Hill in Rome was so called after deus Vagitanus, the Roman deity responsible for endowing infants with the capacity for speech. But, linguists argue, the word ‘vatican’ is neither biblical, nor grounded in either ancient Greek or Latin. As a matter of fact, ethnolinguists today assert that the word ‘vatican’ does not have an Indo-European origin.

Saint Augustine (354-430) was among the first to suggest that it may have derived from the language spoken by the Etruscans. To be clear, the Etruscans used the word vatica/vatika to refer to the bitter-tasting grape used to produce cheap wine or vinegar, a type of grape, that grew abundantly on the slope of that hill across the Tiber River, which to this day is called Colle Vaticano, Vatican Hill. This poisonous grape of sorts was reported to give hallucinations to those who ate it straight off the vines. The term vatica/vatika may then have been used to designate as well hallucinations or prophetic visions. It follows, some argue, that the word ‘vatica’ may have evolved as the etymological root of the Latin word vaticinor, which means to utter as a prophet, to pronounce prophesy, to speak widely as if hallucinating. With time in fact, the act of making predictions was described by the Romans as vaticiniis ferendis. It is possible and even probable that vaticinia, the Latin word for predictions, may therefore be the root origin of the name of today’s Vatican.”

>> Usually, the oldest is the correct one; as in our case the Etruscans used the word first, then this is the authentic, true origin of the word, which was most probably re-used by the Romans whom mutated the true meaning of the word and understood things as they see them, not as they truly were in the time of the Etruscans.

“The area leveled between the Mons Vaticanus, Vatican Hill, and the Tiber River, was called the Campus Vaticanus, the Vatican Field. That area was used by Emperors Caligula (12-41, reigned: 37-41) and Nero (37-68, reigned: 54-68) for chariot exercises, and was variably called Circus Neri, the Circus of Nero, Circus Vaticanus, the Circus Vatican, or simply the Vaticanum, an area, it was said, where an Etruscan necropolis Had been erected earlier.

Indeed, the Etruscans did not bury their dead inside the walls of their cities. Rather, they erected necropolis outside the city gates, and often adorned with altars to honor their goddess of dead and of Ade, their underworld, whom they called Vatica/Vatika.”

>> As I’ve said before, it was not just the Etruscans whom buried their dead extra muros but many civilizations/cultures. The reason behind it was rather simple = avoid diseases and their spread. Some of my colleges also like to add a pinch of spices to the explanation by saying that the ancient people were superstitious on top of the previous reason.

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>>16657123

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“On the southern border of Rasenna, on a hill not far from where decades later Romulus and Remus would establish the foundations of the City of Rome, on the right side of the Tiber, the Etruscans, the descendants of the Sea People, – it is said by some, although disputed by others – had erected such a necropolis dedicated to Vatica/Vatika. The early Romans would then have named that hill Vatican after the Etruscan goddess.

The name of goddess Vatica/Vatika may have derived – some scholars argue, though others dispute – from a mythological deity of the Sea People, which was honored by the Etruscans. They, it is said, feared the wrath of a demon servant (or consort) of Xaru(n)/Charu(n)/Karu(n), the guardian of the gates of hell, whom they named Vanth. Vanth was commonly represented by the Etruscans on urns that held the ashes of cremated bodies as a winged deity dressed in a short tunic with straps crossed at chest height, leaving her breasts uncovered. Her hair was typically represented as a nest of snakes held together by a diadem and entwined around her arms. She was believed to escort the spirit of the deceased from the instant of death to when the spirit reached the gates of Ade, the underworld. Then, the spirit was handed over by Vanth to Xaru(n)/Charu(n)/Karu(n), who acted as the guide through the gate of Ade, delivering the spirit to Aita/Eita, the Etruscan god of Ade.

The connection between Vanth, Vatica/Vatika and the word ‘vatican’ seems more tenuous than the name vatica/vatika for the type of sour grapes growing on the slopes of a hill that Romans eventually called Mons Vaticanus. Nonetheless, both hypothetical etymologies seem to relate the Sea People.”

>> Anyone notice how close the words are to the ones in Greek Mythology? Ade = Hades and Charun = Charon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon

“In Greek mythology, Charon or Kharon (/ˈkɛərɒn, -ən/; Ancient Greek: Χάρων) is a psychopomp, the ferryman of Hades who carries souls of the newly deceased who had received the rites of burial, across the river Acheron (or in some later accounts, across the river Styx) that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead. A coin to pay Charon for passage, usually an obolus or danake, was sometimes placed in or on the mouth of a dead person. Some authors say that those who could not pay the fee, or those whose bodies were left unburied, had to wander the shores for one hundred years, until they were allowed to cross the river.[3] In the catabasis mytheme, heroes – such as Aeneas, Dionysus, Heracles, Hermes, Odysseus, Orpheus, Pirithous, Psyche, Theseus and Sisyphus – journey to the underworld and return, still alive, conveyed by the boat of Charon. Not to be mistaken with Chiron a Centaur who taught some of those heroes, and has a similar name.

[…]”

It’s not just the names that are incredibly similar, but they also have the same meaning/function; as in Ade represents the Underworld and Hades in Greek myths was the ruler of the underworld; and Charun had the duty to accompany the dead souls to the Underworld, just like Charon did. It doesn’t stop here anons, read carefully the description given about Vanth: it’s very close to how Medusa from the Greek myths is described to be.

What do the Etruscans and the Greek have in common? = the Hittite migration. This is where the “influence” to both civilizations came from and it’s the reason why they have names and myths = cultural stuff in common.

Lastly: when you look closely at the description given about Vatika, Vanth and Charun it’s very clear that the first 2 ladies are aspects of the Evil Lady while the Charun is the Evil One.

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>>16657135

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Since we are at it, let’s take a look at Etruscan goddess Vanth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanth

“Vanth is a chthonic figure in Etruscan mythology shown in a variety of forms of funerary art, such as in tomb paintings and on sarcophagi.”

>> It’s because she is related to death and the Underworld.

“Vanth is a female demon in the Etruscan underworld that is often accompanied either by additional Vanth figures or by another underworld demon, Charun (later referred to as Charu). Both Vanth and Charun are only seen in iconography beginning c. 400 BC, in the middle period of Etruscan art, although some earlier inscriptions mention her name.”

>> She is a demon as well as Charun. They are sometimes represented together as a duo; but we should say more like a couple. Sometimes she is represented with OTHER demons = those are the Horned Serpent warriors. We don’t see her in the earliest Etruscan art because the migrating waves were not many yet and the cultural influence the migrants brought with them only appeared/was strong enough in the middle period of the Etruscan art.

“Vanth has no direct counterpart in Greek mythology, and is very frequently, but not always, seen winged. Although Vanth has no real Greek counterpart, she has been compared to the Greek Furies, the Erinyes, especially in older publications. This is an unlikely association since she is almost always shown in Etruscan iconography to be a benevolent guide, not an avenging spirit, which the Furies often represent. Her other attributes include the possession of a torch, key, or scroll, and she is shown often to be bare-chested with cross-straps across her breast, adorned with fur boots, a rolled short chiton, and sometimes with unattached sleeves. In fact, her dress has been attributed by Scheffer as specifically the dress of a huntress.”

>> I see a lot of details belonging to the Evil Lady and some of the Evil One in Vanth. I understand where she got her wings from and why she holds a torch and why her breasts are uncovered….so should the reader as I’ve explained it all when I talked about the Evil Lady.

We cannot say she doesn’t have a counterpart in Greek mythology because this is another aspect of the Evil Lady, mutated into the Etruscan myths. We do have here similarities with Persephone, with Artemis and with Medusa…but when you look at those 3 Greek mythological figures, they are all different aspects of ONE person = the Evil Lady. The younger generation thought each and every single one is a different deity, not realizing it’s one, but seen from different aspects. I’ve explained this many times about Neith and the other Sebetti rulers too.

See how mutation occurred as the cult of the Evil Lady and the Evil One jumped/bounced from one culture/civilization to another and from one generation to another?

“Vanth is involved in a variety of different types of scenes in Etruscan art; the most common types associate her presence with occasions of slaughter and murder, including scenes from the Trojan cycle. Occasionally she is shown rising up out of the ground in such contexts, as seen on an ash urn from Chiusi. Sometimes she is even shown as a solitary figure decorating the sides of ash urns. Other scenes in which Vanth is present involve the meeting and escort of the dead, in the role of psychopompos, who are either walking or being transported on horseback, wagon, or chariot.”

>> She is associated to murder and slaughter because she is the Evil Lady: apart her being a pedovore, she was a co-conspirator in the coup, unleashed the cataclysm which killed millions and she spearheaded the war against the warriors of the Light after the Cataclysm. So of course she and the Horned Serpent warriors (along with the Evil One of course) are always associated with death, murder, slaughter etc. – loads of macabre things.

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>>16657146

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“In general, Vanth is associated with death and the journey of the deceased to the Underworld, but in a variety of different ways; she is present in scenes of the moment of death as well in scenes where the deceased is already fully dead and journeying to the Underworld. She is depicted as a benevolent psychopompian figure, in contrast to the menacing Charun, her sometime companion.

“The materials that Vanth is identified as carrying, which include a torch, key, scroll, or sword, also relate to her role as a guide in the Underworld. The torch can be used to light the way for travellers to the Underworld, although some scholars interpret it as a status symbol or as an indication of office, and the key unlocks its doorway. Additionally, the scroll may reveal more about Vanth, as one instance actually displays her name inside, vanθ. Vanth has been interpreted as a goddess of fate, and using this association, the scroll may contain the destiny of the deceased. However, in total, Vanth is depicted as a young, vibrant female chthonic figure, sometimes in the company of other Vanths, and sometimes with Charun; she is a figure who assists with the journey of the deceased to the underworld.”

>> The interpretation of the objects Vanth carries is a modern day one.

“Etruscan chthonic figures

Other Etruscan chthonic (or underworld) figures include Charun, Calu, Phersipnai, Turms, Aita, and Culsu.”

>> When we look at different artifacts where Vanth is represented (on any type of material) it’s clear we are a seeing a mutated form of the Evil Lady, an aspect of her. We know the wings are stolen, not originally hers. The serpents on her hands are the electricity, while those on her head are either the Serpent Clan helmet or the electric beam which forms between the horns of the Antelope Clan, just like what we saw with Hathor = all horned Clans have it. The torch is mostly that of the Evil One in my opinion which she was associated with, so with the mutation happening, it might be a characteristic which mutated and was “transferred association” to her. I don’t know what the keys she is holding mean, it could be the “access” to the Beam of Light with swirling electricity around it or maybe the Stargate. It is worthy to note that on the Flag of the Vatican, there is a set of 2 keys; supposedly the keys of St Peter.

As if it’s not enough to see all of those details on ancient artifacts pointing us to the Evil Lady, there is even modern day merchandise online about Vanth and Vatika as well. I’m going to attach the pictures with this page and let anons make their minds about them. What do you think? How did modern day designers pick those details for 2 Etruscan deities which are aspects of the same Evil Lady? I don’t think this is as simple as a marketing strategy or artistic expression.

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>>16657163

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Since we took a look at Vanth, we gotta look at her partner Charun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charun

“In Etruscan mythology, Charun (also spelled Charu, or Karun) acted as one of the psychopompoi of the underworld (not to be confused with the god of the underworld, known to the Etruscans as Aita). He is often portrayed with Vanth, a winged figure also associated with the underworld.

Origins

His name was imported from Greek Charon,[1] although it is uncertain whether Etruscans had a native name for a god of the underworld before this. As suggested by alternations in the Etruscan language such as θu "one" changing to θunśna "first", lev "lion" (from Greek leōn) and Apulu (from Greek Apóllōn), words ending in -n after u were disappearing from the language which is why we see his name spelled Xarun and later Xaru.”

>> It’s correct. And Charon and Apollo are 2 different aspects of the Evil One. The common root between the Etruscan and Greek mythologies is the Hittite migrant waves.

“Appearance

The Etruscan Charun was fundamentally different from his Greek counterpart. Guarding the entry to the underworld he is depicted with a hammer (his religious symbol) and is shown with pointed ears, snakes around his arms, and a blueish coloration symbolizing the decay of death. In some images he has enormous wings. He is also depicted as a large creature with snake-like hair, a vulture's hooked nose, large tusks like a boar, heavy brow ridges, large lips, fiery eyes, pointed ears a black beard, enormous wings, discolored (pale cream, bluish or greyish) skin, and snakes around his arm.”

>> When things are represented oversized in art this means exaggeration in order to emphasize. Here, they are highlighting the “scary” and “demonic” aspect of the Evil One by giving these traits to Charun.

“Function

Larissa Bonfante and Judith Swaddling have this to say about Charun: "Many scenes feature the two purely Etruscan underworld demons, Vanth and Charu, whose job is not to punish the dead but rather to escort them to their final destination." However, there are at least two examples, on the sarcophagus of Laris Pulenas as well as a red figure stamnos from Orbetello, that do illustrate Charun in a menacing fashion. Each depicts Charun threatening a male figure with his hammer.”

>> Charun is an aspect of the Evil One, so in this aspect what is highlighted is him taking people to the Underworld, not the slaughter/murder aspect of him.

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>>16657179

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“The grotesque nature of the depiction of Charun appears to have been at least partly apotropaic in nature. Apotropaic art was the practice of the neighboring Greeks at this time, as represented by the exaggerated eyes painted on drinking vessels in the 6th century BC to ward away spirits while drinking or the monstrous depiction of Medusa whose image was said to turn men to stone. Through these images of the grotesque, violence and blood-letting, the Etruscans may have believed that they helped to fend off evil spirits from the tomb as well as sanctify the tomb perhaps in place of the actual ritual sacrifice of an animal usually performed in funerary rites.

Nancy de Grummond offers a different view. The relief on the sarcophagus of Laris Pulenas at Tarquinia, shows two Charuns swinging their hammers at a person's head, though the head (probably that of Pulenas, the nobleman whose sarcophagus it is) no longer survives in the relief due to an accident of preservation. Years later, in the Colosseum, a Charun-like figure called Dispater would hit the loser with a hammer to make sure he was dead, perhaps in reflection of Charun. The hammer might also be used to protect the dead; it is sometimes swung at serpents attacking the deceased (as shown on the Orvieto amphora). Most often it is simply held, or the handle planted on the ground and the mallet head leaned upon (above). De Grummond notes that the ferry of Charon appears only once in surviving Etruscan art, and that some Etruscan demons are equipped with oars, but they typically use them as weapons rather than in their maritime function.”

>> This explanation is a possibility. Another one is that the oars are echoes from a distant past = symbolizing the Ark the Horned Serpent Clan survivors boarded during the Cataclysm.

“Modern views

Many authors tend to take a more sensationalist view of Charun, speaking of him as a "death-demon". Such authors may be inspired by Christian views of Hell and moral punishment. For the Etruscans, as with the Greeks, Hades was merely a morally neutral place of the dead. Neither the "good" nor the "bad" could escape the clutches of death and both were assembled there together.”

>> Chuckles. This is sweet talking to please the sheep.

“Ron Terpening, a professor of Italian literature at the University of Arizona, cites Franz de Ruyt, who claims Charun is similar to Chaldean demons or the Hindu divinities Shiva and Kali. He is presumed to be the servant of Mantus and Mania, and, like Charon, is comparable to the Greeks' Thanatos, the Erinyes, and the Keres. The author, like de Grummond, feels that some later Renaissance paintings of Greek Charon may show the continuity of pre-Christian Etruscan beliefs. Later on when the deity had evolved into the Greek Charon, or Caronte in Italian, Terpening notes that Charun's hammer or mallet is sometimes replaced with an oar, although it does not fit with his duties.”

>> Well, it’s much simpler than this = all of these are aspects of the Evil One; and of the Evil Lady. Same deity, but different aspects of them whom the younger generations thought they were several persons/deities, and not a single one.

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>>16657186

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“According to Jeff Rovin, Charun guided souls on horseback to the underworld and "brings horses to the newly-dead", but this is idle speculation. He also claims that Charun appears to love violence and participates in warfare adding that Charun enjoys natural disasters as well. An Etruscan krater from François Tomb (above) depicts Charun with Ajax or Achilles (left, cropped out) slaughtering Trojan prisoners. This urn is currently held in Cabinet des Médailles 920, Bibliothéque Nationale, Paris. Rovin says that some accounts depict him with a sword, and that he "slices" souls with it. At least one image shows him guiding a soul on horseback, equipped with both a hammer and a sword, though he is simply carrying it on his person.

The Charon of Vergil in the Aeneid is particularly cruel; according to W.F. Jackson Knight, "Vergil's Charon is not only the Greek ferryman of Aristophanes [in The Frogs], but more than half his Etruscan self, Charun, the Etruscan torturing death-devil, no ferryman at all."

>> That’s because Charun in the Etruscan myths is none other than the Evil One, but we only see one aspect, one angle of him here. So seeing him sometimes being violent and slaughter people is also another aspect of the Evil One. It shouldn’t surprise anyone reading this thread. And just look where this urn was put = Cabinet des Médailles 920, B.N. Paris. ^_^

“Assistants

Charun is believed to have worked with many assistants in the Underworld, although they could be independent deities in their own right. Most of their names are lost to us, but at least one, Tuchulcha, is identified in the Tomb of Orcus II, and has hair and wings like a Gorgon. Tuchulcha, whose gender is debated among scholars, appears in a depiction of the story of Theseus (known to the Etruscans as "These") visiting the underworld. These and his friend Peirithous are playing a board game, attended by Tuchulcha.

There are four Charuns shown in a fresco in the Tomb of the Charuns, and each appear to have sub-names. These are Charun Chunchules, the heavily blistered Charun Huths, Charun Lufe, and the fourth has crumbled away to illegibility. On Laris Pulena's sarcophagus, there are also two Charuns and two Vanths on either side of the figure in the center who is presumably Laris Pulena himself. De Grummond does not cite these figures as assistants, but believes Charun may be a type of creature rather than a singular demon.

Many of Charun's other presumed assistants appear in the Tomb of the Blue Demons, which is also the home of the only Etruscan rendering of the aforementioned ferry of Charon.

Pop culture

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>> The “assistants” are none other than the Horned Serpent warriors = they all wear similar armors, so they look alike; apart the multimorphs.

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>>16657207

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Well, if we combine all the information we’ve gathered from the Etruscan deities: Vatika, Vanth and Charun, with the symbolism and the art in the Vatican itself; along with what Qteam made us be aware about the Vatican….and the rumors of a giant being imprisoned in the catacombs…. If we combine all of this information….We come to the conclusion that the giant supposedly down there, is none other than the remains of the Evil Lady. I’m saying this IF it turned out to be true that there is a giant imprisoned down there = the giant is not alive, but it’s most probably the remains of the Evil Lady. So all the human sacrifices done there, it was for her, if there really is a giant down there, because we know she is the only one of the Evil Couple whom has survived the Cataclysm while he perished. And the Obelisk is there to transmit Spiritual energy.

Some of the readers might be wondering if I have figured out what have happened to the remains of the Crown Prince of Atlantis, the remains of Neith and the remains of the last male Sebetti.

It’s early to talk about the last male Sebetti, so I will leave this part to when I reach his geographic location.

It’s possible, but not certain, that (((they))) might have found the remains of Neith in Ancient Egypt (one of the possible location where she is buried) and confused her with the Evil Lady, as I’ve said before. But I’m not that convinced by it and I’m not sure of it. Same situation with the Crown Prince of Atlantis, but here again, I’m not convinced nor am I sure (((they))) got (((their))) hands on his remains. See, each time I start thinking about this matter, I keep on remembering that Christ and the Virgin Mary ascended to Heaven in their human forms = with their physical bodies. And if Christ is the reincarnation of the King of kings or the Crown Prince….the same for the Virgin Mary being the reincarnation of Neith… then, what happened? I don’t know anons, I don’t know…. My thoughts are going in all directions when I think of this. And I’m not going to find the answer easily since such “delicate” matters are kept secret under the highest classification possible.

So these locations I’ve mentioned before are possibilities of where the remains of the Sebetti rulers might have been transferred to by the Bloodlines; and I think I should include London and Washington D.C. to the possible locations as well. I said that the remains of the Sebetti rulers might have been transferred, because it’s obvious with Viracocha’s case he was not found there.

As for the Evil Lady’s remains…when you read about Vatika and Vanth, you get this feeling the remains weren’t originally there, but you get this feeling that at some point in time, it’s possible, the remains were transferred to the Vatican and everything was built around those remains. When the transfer happened? I have no idea, with the current data I’ve got. Where were the remains originally located? Well, Asia Minor and Mesopotamia are possible regions where her remains might have been found, and then transferred to Rome afterwards. Of course I’m not certain of this, it’s just theoretical all of it. I can be certain when I see it with my own eyes in the catacombs of the Vatican = Saint Thomas to the end.

As I’ve told anons before, the skeletons of giants found in the territory of the States are, partially, those of the Sebetti rulers and the warriors of different clans. I’ve said partially, because I think not all were Sebetti warrior surviving the Cataclysm were buried alongside Viracocha. This is just a part of them, but there is another part.

The Sebetti rulers and the Sebetti warriors (both good and bad) lived an extremely long life compared to that of a human. We know they were of both genders. And we know from the sigil records = seals and the heraldic symbols, of many ancient kings from many civilizations/cultures claim “deities” as their ancestors; as in these ancient kings are direct descendants of the many Sebetti warriors…a claim which is also made nowadays by the Merovingian Bloodline which claim (((they))) are direct descendants of the Evil Couple. There are also artifacts, like the relief of Nergal, which suggest that the Evil Lady might have taken him for a lover after the Cataclysm and death of the Evil One. Same thing is echoed in some myths and texts from all over the world.

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>>16657219

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If I combine all of these elements, it’s indicating that the Sebetti warriors and the Sebetti rulers had descendants = children. When you think about whom they might have mated with to have children, we have 2 possible options:

1 – They mated with other Sebetti warriors, which was possible since there were warriors from both genders. The children from this possibility would have been born and considered as first generation descendants of pure Sebetti warriors blood (A). In the case of the Sebetti ruler mating with a Sebetti warrior, then the children would be a hybrid of mixed blood (B).

The (A) children, would have their parents physical features, including their height, fingers, toes, teeth, skull shape, even hair color. since they are pure bloods.

The (B) children, would have been a mixture: some would look like one of the parents, while some would be a mixture of both = we will have a genetic mixture between Sebetti ruler genes and Sebetti warrior genes. This is when we should see some “changes” like possibly children taller than the height of the Sebetti warrior, but also shorter than the height of the Sebetti ruler = a height in between that of the parents. Same thing is applied for the other physical features, from the numbers of fingers/toes, to the teeth, to the shape of the skull.

Anons will ask me: how I can be sure that the Sebetti warriors were shorter in height than the Sebetti rulers? = that one is easy to guess anons, I’m not just relying on what the young man saw. I’m also relying on physical evidence, like the steps and the door ways we saw in the Incas fortress, like the doorways in the Phoenician megalithic sites, like the statues of Mount Nemrut etc.

2 – They mated with humans, normal humans. Here again, we have subgroups of descendants:

The (C) children would be the result of the mating between a human and a Sebetti warrior. The height of such children should be somewhere in between that of a human and a Sebetti warrior; and I’m also taking into consideration all the genetic cocktail variation and possibilities. It’s a wild mix.

The (D) children would be the result of the mating between a human and a Sebetti ruler which might have produced a wide range of heights of their offspring.

When you consider all of these possibilities, you will realize that not all giants unearthed in the States are Sebetti warriors whom survived the Cataclysm, but some are their direct descendants from first generation, second and third generation descendants. This is why we have this huge variety in the heights and physical features we see on this chart and we read about in the giant skeleton articles. And this is why I am saying that the readers whom think the giant skeletons are the Sebetti warriors are partially right: it’s them and their direct descendants for 2 or 3 generations down.

This mater is highly complex and needs long, serious and deep studying. Things are not simple and shallow. We are talking about many generations here and the various heights we saw are indicating of the possibilities I’ve mentioned just above when it comes to the offspring of the Sebetti warriors.

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>>16657224

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That was one big chunk of the issue at hand here, but there is another big chunk I’ve also found, somehow connected to all of this, but I still don’t understand how it all fits in together: the issue is the elongated skulls and the size of humans.

I’ve already mentioned to anons that what triggered/started the cataclysm was a huge explosion that took place. We have many hints from all over the word about that explosion and we’ve already talked about it in this long thread. We don’t have much details, so far, about the explosion itself and with what we’ve got, it’s indicating that some sort of device/machinery, which emitted some type of energy, exploded. The explosion was the start of the Cataclysm which almost destroyed the entire earth and killed everyone living there.

A lot of readers of this thread think it’s just some rain and the flood occurred. You are wrong. The Cataclysm was a long and terrifying series of disasters which struck earth and killed everyone, as a direct consequence of the explosion of that energy emitting device. If you want to have an idea of what I’m talking about please take a look at this clip from the movie called 2012. Focus on how everything is being destroyed around the characters in the movie. How the earth is behaving and how everything is collapsing. And notice how the ones to survive were the ones whom were air born = flew away, exactly like what we read about the ThunderBirds. See how the earth is opening up, splitting and how it’s flipping? Notice the TSUNAMI and the volcanoes (there is a sign on the scene of the volcanic eruption with Big Horn written on it – do you think this is a coincidence?) Where do you think Hollywood got the idea for this movie from? How did Hollywood know this and that disaster would happen this way? What are the odds this movie is reflecting the Cataclysm I keep on talking about in this thread? If you can watch all of the movie, slowly, noticing all the details, it would be very helpful for the reader to have a visual of what really happened back then. This movie is accurate in its depiction of the disasters.

What I was calling the Flood was actually a MEGA tsunami, just as depicted in this movie. It was a HUGE tsunami which managed to reach high mountain tops. This is why we saw at the beginning of this long dig = thread, 4 sea shells all around the Ark on Mt Ararat. We also found sea shells and life in the vicinity of Tiwanaku when we were looking at the Andean Region. This also explains how coastal areas were submerged; also explains why we have sea shells on the Lebanese mountain range. Why I took a look at the fossils all around the Med Sea (starting page 217)? = to try to bring the attention of the reader to many issues. This is how the mountains of Big Horns area were flipped like a pancake and how the Red Sea split open.

Now that anons understand the SCALE of the Cataclysm, let’s talk what happened after the Cataclysm was over. Apart the water level receding and the Ice Age occurring (which I talked about both of them before), something else was also taking place = radiation from the explosion.

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>>16657227

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RADIATION

Why did I think of radiation? It’s because of Darwin and the Evolution theory. It’s more than clear now to the reader of this thread that the Evolution theory is nothing but B.S. and Darwin is a big fake and a liar. The Arks on many high mountains are there to prove him wrong. We were created by our Heavenly Father. We didn’t evolve from some apes to become the Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

But this brought a knot in this big puzzle: what about the Neanderthals? What about the other human “species”? Please take a look at the pictures I’ve attached with this page to understand what I’m pointing to. If Darwin was a fake, and his theory pure BS, then how can we explain the existence of the skeletons of the other human “species”, like the one of the Neanderthal for example?

I was stuck here for a very long time, years, I couldn’t figure it out, until I got “help” in 2 unexpected ways:

1 – The incident of Fukushima with everything that happened from the tsunami, to the nuclear plant, to the leak with the radiation and of course all of the pictures of mutated plants and animals. That pushed the imagery of “living things” changing forms and growing limbs. I’ve already mentioned nuclear radiation before in this thread and its effect and consequences on the human body exposed to it on page 1 419.

2 – This one was even more unexpected as it came from the movie Aquaman (starting page 1 409). In the video I’ve attached with page 1 412, Vulko from the movie tells Arthur = Aquaman about the explosion that destroyed Atlantis and he talks about radiation. This radiation had a positive and a negative effect on the Atlanteans. It changed them physically, ALL of them, some positively as it enabled them to breath underwater; some negatively, as it changed their physical appearance. Some “supposedly” evolved according to Vulko’s tale = turning into fish men. While others regressed, still according to Vulko’s tale, and became closer to monsters/animals form like, than humans form, like the Trench etc. These Atlantean became violent and seem to have only their basic instincts left in them.

Which reminded me of Darwin’s evolution theory….but….what if it was in reverse? What if it was not EVOLUTION but DEVOLUTION that happened to the survivors of the Cataclysm? We already know (((they))) twist things around a 180 degrees, right? When it comes to understanding and uncovering the truth with (((them))) we gotta understand things the other way around (((they))) tell us it is: as in what is up is down, what is right is left, what is black is white. So if I apply this to what Darwin said…then it’s not Evolution theory, it’s Devolution theory. This explains the Neanderthal and the other human “species” we have.

When you think about it, it makes sense. When the survivors came out from the Arks, they were subjected to radiation for a long period of time, while the Ice Age was taking place. How long did it last? I have no idea: it could be a few hundred years or it could be hundred thousands of years.

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>>16657237

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We know there were 7 clans scattered all over the world because of the Cataclysm; so each part of the world suffered from the radiation differently and each survivor’s body = genes, reacted to the radiation differently. Some of us regressed and became the Neanderthals and the other human “species”. Is it possible?

I think it is very highly possible, mostly if we take a look at the animals and the changes it occurred with them. What do I mean here? Well, take a look at the pictures I’m attaching with this page; and please go online and keep on looking for pictures with the same idea = the changes in animals from “prehistoric” times till now. The radiation affected not just humans, but all types of living beings on earth, from humans, to animals, to plants. Suddenly, a lot of things are starting to make sense to me.

Do you remember the Sivatherium from page 61? It’s the ancestor of the giraffe and somehow it mutated from that form into becoming how we know it is now; as in a mutation occurred. What can cause that mutation? = radiation. Do you remember the Serpopard from page 119? It clearly co-existed with humans just like the Sivatherium did. So happened to it? Did it mutated and turn into the lion/panther/tiger? If so, what cause the mutation? = radiation. Again. Take a look at the different animal species I’ve put for anons in the pictures attached with this page. This can be applied to all species, animals and plants alike. Keep those thought in mind and let connect them with the previous point when talking about the devolution of humans….then….let’s connect all of this ( = devolution of humans and the mutation of animals) to the next point = humans co-existing with dinosaurs.

We have seen many artifacts and evidence in this thread already all pointing to the co-existence of humans and dinosaurs at the same time (chronologically); from the Dogon artifact (page 215) all the way to the tracks at the bottom of the Paluxy river in Texas (starting page 2 402) = which is in sharp opposition from the narrative peddled forward by the Main Stream History.

The Main Stream History told us for a long time now that an asteroid impact is what most probably killed the dinosaurs and what was left of them = survived the impact, mutated and changed = evolved… What if it wasn’t an asteroid impact but something similar? What if what wiped out the dinosaurs was the explosion which triggered the Cataclysm? What if this is what wiped out not just all the dinosaurs but also all the humans from all the clans from the surface of the earth? And whatever and whomever had survived the Cataclysm had somehow boarded the Arks? How that happened? Well, for humans, they boarded it in a panicked way of course. But what about the animals = the dinos? I’m still working on that one despite me having some small pieces, I still haven’t figured out all of it. But one thing for sure = some animals survived the Cataclysm, just like how humans survived it.

And with them surviving the Cataclysm, the animals spread all over the world after coming out of the Arks, just like humans did. And just like the humans, the animals were also subjugated to the radiation and lived in the Ice Age. This affected their appearance as well; and the best example is how the mammoth transformed/mutated into the current day elephant. They are similar, but not identical, not exactly the same.

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>>16657242

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And all of this brings me to the proportions/scale between humans and dinosaurs. We saw many times in this thread with various artifacts, that humans not just co-existed with dinosaurs but they were also were proportioned to each other in size. I just mentioned the Dogon artifact from page 215; and there is another good example of the artifact found in the vicinity of Tiwanaku from page 496. Now add to this the previous points I was talking about and the giant skeleton’s differences in height we’ve just seen a few pages ago.

If I combine all of this, there is a big chance that humans were actually bigger in size and that we shrunk because of the radiation; exactly like what had happened with the mammoth and the elephant. So you see dear readers why I say that if you think the giant skeletons are the remains of Sebetti warriors is partially right/correct? It’s because that some are, while others might be those of our human ancestors whom might have shrunk in later generations due to radiation. We mustn’t also forget that some of the giant skeletons might be of the direct descendants of the Sebetti warriors whom survived the Cataclysm as well. Things aren’t as easy and clear as it initially appeared to be when it comes to the giants.

And this same idea should be applied about the elongated skulls? Where they the result of the radiation as well? Or were our skulls initially elongated then they mutated and changed to their current form right now? I honestly don’t know. I have no way to find out which was our initial form and to what we mutated into. Oh by the way: this also includes what some call as the “alien skulls” as well = it’s got that form because of the radiation. I bet this is also one of the highest classified secrets there is out there. I honestly think we shrunk anons. I honestly think humans were bigger in size. One thing is for sure, the Bloodlines sure like the elongated shape of the skull.

These genes are still in us, they show up from time to time; all you have to do is take a look at Robert Wadlow’s pictures I’m attaching with this page to understand what I mean here. What I haven’t been able to figure out is how exactly tall where humans. See when the young man meets his guardian, well…that guardian of his is of the same height as Wadlow is in these pictures. And when the young man stands next to him, it’s the exact same thing of what you see with Wadlow along with the people next to him in those pictures. So…. How tall were humans? And where did this “height” gene come from? Were humans originally that tall? Or is this the result of the possible mating with some of the Sebetti warriors which I talked about in previous pages?

I have 2 big chunks about this issue of the giant skeletons, but I don’t know how they fit together. And I’m stuck in the same place when it comes to the shape of the skulls? Were our skulls elongated and then it mutated into the current one from the radiation? Or is it the other way around? I would also like to bring attention to the shoe size of Wadlow by the way. It confirms what I have been telling you about the depth of the steps in the Inca fortress and the size of the doors in the megalithic size.

So yes anons, I’ve still got some work to do in this section. This is not over for me and I’m still working on it. Radiation and “hybrids” genetically can explain why we look different from the “giants”. Maybe both reasons combined together changed us a lot from how we initially were and we kinda drifted away from how we originally looked like. I don’t think there were giants as tall as a mountain or a building like what some claim in the Alternative History.

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>>16657262

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We had 7 Sebetti rulers and they were the biggest in size among all living beings. The biggest one is size was the King of kings which was murdered. Are the statues of Mount Nemrut reflecting the true size and appearance of the Sebetti rulers?

When we look at the giant statues of Mount Nemrut, it’s obvious, mostly with the female ruler, that the Sebettis were represented looking like the mutated form of the human being. They do not have elongated skulls: we can see it mostly with the female Sebetti ruler. Their facial and physical features are like us as well, including the number of fingers and toes.

They got it right that the Sebetti rulers were giants = huge in size and that the King of kings was the biggest in size. But, did they get the height right? Is it accurate to how tall the Sebetti rulers really were? It’s possible, but not certain. It’s hard to verify this with the current information we’ve got. But maybe, we can have information about their true height if we land on the remains of a Sebetti ruler. That is IF…. When I think like that, I’m told that I’m daydreaming, and I am most probably, because this type of information is for sure top secret.

Maybe the statues on Mount Nemrut got the height of the Sebetti rulers correct, but they didn’t get the facial features (mostly) as well as other physical details correct about them. This is making me believe that the ones whom built Mount Nemrut never saw directly the Sebetti rulers but heard of tales about them. This is very understandable and logical, mostly when we read in the texts we’ve already seen in this thread that the King of kings lived “above” and never descended to earth, he never got out of His palace. While we know the rest of the Sebetti rulers were fearsome and it was forbidden to even know and say their names….much less, seeing their faces. Not just anyone could simply walk in and say hello to a Sebetti ruler. So now, I don’t think the Sebetti rulers look like how they are represented on Mount Nemrut.

Which brings me to Viracocha and the mask he used to wear. When he was in the Andean Region, it was reported that he used to constantly wear a mask. But seems like he didn’t wear one when he finally reached the Northern American region. So why did he use to wear a mask when he was in the Andean Region?

1 - It could be because his face was injured or disfigured so it needed time to heal; leaving scars. He did survive a Cataclysm after all; or he might have been wounded on the face while battling the Horned Serpent Clan warriors.

2 – He is wearing that mask because it was forbidden to see his face, but then, I don’t understand why the mask was taken off by the time he reached Northern America.

3 – Something must have had happened to his face….or maybe it’s the other way around = something must have happened to OUR faces as humans = as in we mutated and our facial features changed to be different than that of the Sebetti ruler. So he was wearing a mask in order NOT to frighten the humans, whom looked different than he was. Don’t forget that the Sebetti rulers have the most Spiritual Power within them, so they react differently to radiation.

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>>16657278

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Maybe anons reading this are not that convinced with the radiation theory and that we = humans, mutated. Please take a good look at the infant human skull pictures I’ve attached wit this page. This is how our skulls look like when we are born, but we don’t see the double row of teeth. It’s soooo similar to the description given about the giant skeleton with a double row of teeth. But with humans, we lose one set of teeth which is replaced by the second set. What if this was a consequence of the radiation and we were not supposed to lose our first set of teeth? This opens the possibility of the radiation “theory” I’ve presented to anons to be correct, doesn’t it? Well, I will let you think about it and decide for yourselves. But for me, this is another link between us and the giant skeletons.

I guess now anons have a good idea how intertwined the subjects of radiation, giants, elongated skull, alien like skeletons and the Sebettis are. There is much much more digging to be done on this intertwined matter. A lot of exploring needs to be done in order to fully understand what really happened and why we = humans, look different from our original form and clan members. The chances are extremely high that we are the mutants; we are the ones whom changed because of the radiation and that our original form was very different. It’s not them whom look weird, it’s us whom look weird. It’s the other way around.

I also know for sure that the Bloodlines got (((their))) nasty little hands on the DNA of the Sebetti warriors from all clans. Why am I sure? I will say it again: it’s because of the Nazi super soldier idea. Where do you think these lunatics got the idea of creating the super soldier and the superior race from? = From the Sebetti warriors. The warriors are taller, stronger, faster, more agile, smarter and even handsomer than what a normal human is. Not to mention they have more Spiritual Power, which means they are more powerful in that way as well.

My biggest fear is if (((they))) got (((their))) nasty little dirty hands on Sebetti rulers DNA. If (((they))) got (((their))) hands on the DNA of any Sebetti ruler then you can bet (((they)))’ve been “playing” with that DNA and trying to recreate a deity like human = (((they))) might be trying to create a god; mostly if (((they))) got (((their))) hands of the DNA of the Evil Lady. IF (((they))) got (((their))) hands on her DNA, did (((they))) try to clone her? Did (((they))) try to inject her DNA and blend it with human DNA to create a new god? Just thinking about this gives me chills down my spine because it means bringing back to life one of the 2 Devils.

Is this what the Apocalypse was about? Is this what (((they))) were trying to do with the 16 years plan? Did (((they))) manage to clone the Evil Lady and (((they))) were planning to open the portal to bring back her Spirit? My thoughts are going in all directions about this one and each time I think about it, I end up with cold chills and a headache. Let’s just hope and pray the old man that I am has one big imagination and nothing of the sort happened; as in (((they))) didn’t get (((their))) hands on Sebetti ruler DNA.

This is where I’m going to stop for now about the giant skeletons. I will be retouching the issue each time I get additional information as I move forward in this thread. This is a work in progress since there are loads of digging tunnels to explore and work on which are still untouched. For now, please think about the stuff that I’ve said, even if it’s not too convincing for some, even if it’s a bit on the crazy, unbelievable side.

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>>16657299

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The next subject I want to add is a pyramid found supposedly in Kodiak Island, Alaska. Please take a look at the video I’ve attached with this page, before proceeding with the reading.

In the video, it is said this is a pyramid which emits a huge amount of energy and there are mining elevator shafts which take people down underground, inside the pyramid. They are correct in this video when they say that there is more than one pyramid in the world and they have been found to be giving off energy. And yes, they are correct in this video when they say the existence of these pyramids is being shushed in order to re-write human history. They go on to say that this technology comes from a pre-flood civilization which had a technology far superior than the one we have now. Tesla is mentioned, which is correct. Then they list in the video other places where pyramids were found around the world. Then towards the end, they mention that Antarctica, where there seem to be pyramids, was covered in a tropical fauna and was closer to India. In other words, if this is true, then Antarctica shifted = slid and ended up where it is right now.

A lot of the information mentioned in this video is good and correct. Of course this is not an alien pyramid. It’s the electrical grid of an ancient civilization which was wiped out by a bunch of crazy evil people whom triggered a huge Cataclysm. So it should be no surprise to the reader of this thread to bump into more pyramids in their research, since this was an electrical GRID. So don’t be surprised to find out there are other pyramids, not just in Nothern American territory, but all over the world.

We shouldn’t be surprised one bit to find out there is some type of secret facility under and around this pyramid. If the Bloodlines have found this pyramid and it was in a rather good shape after it was hit by the effects of the Cataclysm, then (((they))) might have spent loads of resources of all sorts and decades, maybe even a couple of centuries, trying to make this pyramid work; as in turning on the system which emits energy. From what was said in the video, it sounds like (((they))) succeeded in doing so.

I think in due time Potus Trump and the Alliance will reveal most of what needs to be known about the pyramids. It’s going to take some time, maybe a few years since their hands are full for now, but it will come gradually since this is connected to free and clean energy which will help mankind worldwide. So I guess they will drip the information about it all to help people’s lives get better and in the same time in order not to shock the normal folks which are still in lala land.

I’m going to attach an annex page with a picture of the pyramid in Kodiak Island, Alaska, as an annex page to this one since I cannot attach it with this page because of the video.I will stop here about the pyramid in Alaska. This should do. It’s good just to get attention to it.

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>>16657303

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Picture of the pyramid in Kodiak Island, Alaska.

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>>16657308

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The next subject I want to talk about briefly, to bring attention to it, are the petroglyphs in Northern America, mostly the States. I’m going to take as quickly as possible a look at some of the known sites and put sample pictures for the readers. The rest, you can look up for it online.

https://www.gohawaii.com/content/hawaiian-petroglyphs#:~:text=Petroglyphs%2C%20or%20kii%20pohaku%2C%20are,who%20lived%20here%20long%20ago.

“Petroglyphs, or kii pohaku, are lava rock carvings etched into stone centuries ago by Native Hawaiians. Although the true meanings of the petroglyphs are unknown, it is generally thought these carvings are records of births and other significant events in the lives of the people who lived here long ago. See the carvings of human forms, canoes, turtles and others in the many captivating petroglyphs fields throughout the island of Hawaii.

Within Hawaii Volcanoes National Park at the coastal end of Chain of Craters Road you’ll discover the sacred Puuloa Petroglyphs, one of the largest petroglyph fields in Hawaii. You can see more than 23,000 images carved into the lava rock here, most before western contact in Hawaii. This 1.4 mile hike (round trip) is rated moderate. Be prepared for hot, dry, wet and windy weather conditions. Please stay on the boardwalk.

In the Kaloko-Honokohau National Historical Park located three miles north of Historic Kailua Village (Kailua-Kona) you can find many mysterious petroglyphs scattered throughout the 1160-acre park. This historic National Park is also the site of Hawaiian fishponds, kahua (house site platforms), a holua (stone slide) and heiau (temples).

Along the Kohala Coast, Puako Petroglyph Archaeological Preserve near Holoholokai Park at Mauna Lani Resort, features hundreds of petroglyphs. On the grounds of the Waikoloa Resort, Anaehoomalu Petroglyph Field is another great place to view well-preserved Hawaiian petroglyphs. Many of the petroglyph fields in this area reside on the Ala Kahakai Trail, also known as the King’s Trail, a 175-mile trail corridor full of historic sites including sacred heiau, Hawaiian fishponds and settlement ruins. For Waikoloa/Anaehoomalu petroglyphs, Kings' Shops offers free tours on Thursdays and Fridays at 9:30 a.m.”

>> This article is given us a good idea of the location of the petroglyphs in Hawaii = where to find them, how many of them there is and a general idea about the designs.

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>>16657318

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The next petroglyph is rather interesting. It’s known as the Kachina Bridge petroglyph, in Utah: www.dinosaursandman.com/kachina-bridge-dinosaur.html

“The Kachina Bridge Dinosaur

Natural Bridges National Monument in southeast Utah is found at the junction of White Canyon and Armstrong Canyon, part of the Colorado River drainage. It contains the second largest natural bridge in the world, Sipapu, which is 268 feet long and 220 feet high. The Kachina Bridge is 210 feet high and 62 feet long, a real sight to see.

Upon a ledge inside the Kachina Bridge is a petroglyph which depicts a large dinosaur. Jan Cameron did an extensive rock art rubbing of the dinosaur image. She was commissioned by the Canadian government to do rock art rubbings on fossils because it picks up details that the human eye cannot otherwise see. Her scientific analysis shows that it is a dinosaur.

The image was made using a hammer stone and a deer antler tint. They would peck hundreds of holes to get the proper texture and create the images seen still today on these rock formations. This technique has been proven by using deer antler tints, USB portable microscopes (30x-90x), rock art rubbings, and multiple gauge tools.

I’m committed to the return of common sense. If you want to sprinkle academic goofy dust on it, you can make it into anything. But the peck marks, the outline, rock art rubbing, photographs all say it's a dinosaur. Some paleontologists suffer from paranoia because the dinosaur is a paleontologist's passport to paranoia, it is a pedestal smashing blow to evolution.

Polly Schfassma considered to be the world's foremost authority on rock art in the Southwest documented this in 1991. She drew the above image. She suffered from recording the obvious, which is unmistakable and cannot be denied: it's a dinosaur.

Some of compared it to Camasaurus. The Camasaurus had a striking toothy grin. The Indians incorporated a natural crevice in the rock that looks like teeth to give the dinosaur a toothy grin. Note the eye placement and chisel mark around the head. The top of the forehead is sloped just like the Camosaurus's head. Evolutionists believe this is a one of a kind mud glob rock formation with dimples like a golfball all over it which gives the illusion of a dinosaur.”

>> Well, if we listen to the Main Stream History this petroglyph ain’t a dinosaur but a smudge. The Main Stream History will never admit this is a petroglyph of a dinosaur. And like what we’ve seen with other artifacts projecting the similar idea of dinosaurs co-existed with humans, this is supposedly debunked by the Main Stream History and this petroglyph is considered as a fake or a hoax. The behavior is the same when it comes to the idea of dinosaurs co-existed with humans, regardless what and where the artifacts/evidence were found. This petroglyph should be added to the file of evidence of dinos and humans co-existing.

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>>16657323

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Last set of petroglyphs I want to take a quick look at in the States are the petroglyphs of Sky Rock, in California: https://www.oceanlight.com/log/sky-rock-petroglyphs-volcanic-tablelands-bishop-california.html#:~:text=Hidden%20atop%20an%20enormous%20boulder,little%20is%20known%20about%20them.

“SKY ROCK PETROGLYPHS, VOLCANIC TABLELANDS, BISHOP, CALIFORNIA

Sierra Nevada

For some years I’ve wanted to see the Sky Rock Petroglyphs, a secluded and unusual set of petroglyphs located in the Volcanic Tablelands near Bishop, California. The Sky Rock Petroglyphs sit atop of an enormous volcanic block. The petroglyphs — dozens of them in many shapes and forms — face the sky, thus lending Sky Rock its name. My understanding is that Sky Rock’s orientation toward the heavens is unusual, but also curious is that this set of petroglyphs sits alone, isolated some 5+ miles from the rich Chalfant, Chidalgo and Red Rock petroglyph collections. Chipped into the rock, through the darker “desert varnish” that typically covers the exterior of such rocks, the Sky Rock Petroglyphs expose the lighter-colored rock underneath. The history of Sky Rock is not clear to me, although I have seen a number of published suggestions that the Sky Rock Petroglyphs were perhaps created by ancestors of what are today known as the Owens Valley Paiute (or Shoshone-Paiute) people.”

>> Take a look at the mountains close to the petroglyphs anons. I have a big smile on my face. What are the odds there is an Ark in the vicinity? Also, we have a nice short list here with other sites where there are petroglyphs in the States for anons whom are interested in this type of research.

“Sky Rock petroglyphs near Bishop, California, sunrise light just touching clouds and the Sierra Nevada. Hidden atop an enormous boulder in the Volcanic Tablelands lies Sky Rock, a set of petroglyphs that face the sky. These superb examples of native American petroglyph artwork are thought to be Paiute in origin, but little is known about them.”

>> Nice picture and nice comments in this article. But I don’t agree these petroglyphs are ALL left by the Native Americans. Maybe some were, but others were much much older than anyone can think of.

“Sky Rock is a special place, indeed. It was fascinating to see it firsthand and consider the artist who, probably many hundreds of years ago, composed the intricate petroglyph forms. While looking at it we realized very few, if any, of the shapes were recognizable. In the way that other famous artists in history have done, Sky Rock’s talented creator produced a work that captivates and intrigues and will outlive him for centuries – a distinction that most artists (and photographers) hope to achieve.”

>> This is not art work; the petroglyphs are records, historical records.

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>>16657327

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I’m sure there are still plenty of sites, already known and unknown (still to be discovered) in the States with loads of petroglyphs in them. These petroglyphs are physical proof there are Arks (in plural) which landed in Northern America; we simple have to find them. A way of doing so is to follow the rivers and high peaks. Another is to follow the petroglyphs.

The petroglyphs in the States should be carefully catalogued and studied on 3 levels:

1 – Local.

2 – State.

3 – National.

It’s important to cross state borders and bring together the data. Sometimes stopping the study at the state frontier level is a hindrance to the study. Those state lines are put by modern day people, not by the ancient ones. So sometimes a part of the petroglyphs are in one state and the other is in another state = crossing the border. Some petroglyphs might be related to astronomy and have links to other sites in other states while matching constellations. It’s very possible.

Another possibility is that these petroglyphs might be somehow linked to the petroforms and/or to geoglyphs; that is if there are any left in the States. From what I read and saw online, seems like there might have been some geoglyphs in the States but apparently most have been bulldozed during modern times.

Also, just by hunch, I say there are still undiscovered sites with petroglyphs in the States out there. Let’s call it an old archaeologist’s intuition.

This is it for the subjects not mentioned in the Out-of-Place artifacts which I wanted to add. Maybe I’ve missed some. If anons know of something peculiar or remarkable which escaped my attention in Northern America, please share it with us in this thread.

I’ve said this is it for the subjects which caught my attention….the subjects above ground that is; because there are subjects that caught my attention which are Under Water. And this is what we are going to take a look next. What I’m going to do next is take a look at what’s underwater in the Atlantic Ocean first, then when finished, take a look at what’s underwater in the Pacific Ocean. I’m a greenhorn in this matter, so I’m not good at all when it comes with the imageries, but I can still read between the lines of the articles. When it comes to the images I’ve got, I hope some readers will help and explain things or share their knowledge if they are acquainted with the subject. I think taking a look at these, even if I’m still a greenhorn is not a bad idea. I mean, it won’t hurt to try.

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>>16657329

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When it comes to the Atlantic Ocean, I started with taking a look at the underwater area around Africa. I found some odd shapes like squares and rectangles, but the image was terribly blurry for most of them.

Two places stood out, but I’m unable to make any sense of them. I hope the readers can help by commenting or giving their opinions about then since I don’t know if these are natural formation, old structures or modern day structures. If those are modern day structures, then it raises loads of questions what they could be and what is their purpose in such deep waters.

Maybe it’s a simple rock formation at the bottom of the ocean, maybe it’s not. I don’t know. I will let you make up your mind about this. I’m simply curious.

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>>16657337

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I have no idea what these could be. They look like some sort of pipes, but then again, I might be totally wrong. Seems like they are modern day structure though, not ancient.

Any suggestions anyone?

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>>16657344

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I have also found online an interesting theory about Atlantis being found underwater at the north-west of Ireland. I tried to look at the maps myself but found nothing.

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/atlantis-found-new-findings-suggest-lost-city-is-just-off-irelands-west-coast/#:~:text=Historical%20research%20suggests%20the%20Lost,Frisland%27%20in%20the%20North%20Atlantic

“Historical research suggests the Lost City of Atlantis has been under our noses all along….just off the West Coast of Ireland.

A number of maps studied over a one hundred year time frame from 1550 all show an island referred to as ‘Frisland’ in the North Atlantic.

On maps after this period the island appears to vanish, suggesting it was the mythical kingdom of Atlantis.

Ancient history writer and geologist, Matt Sibson, told the Daily Star Online, “It was shown in so many maps in the 16th and 17th century and then it disappeared – it can’t be a mistake.

“It is located northwest of Ireland and there are a number of smaller islands around it.

“And it can still be seen on modern mapping tools under the sea, close to the Faroe Islands.

“It ticks a lot of boxes in terms of location, the fact that it is sunk and was above sea-level at one time.”

Plato’s writings

Plato wrote the story of Atlantis around 360 BC. He described it as a Utopia populated with half-god/half-human civilians.

He referred to the Kingdom as existing a further 9,000 years before him, lush with exotic wildlife and precious metals like gold and silver.

The view from a geologist

But Plato’s story is the only solid evidence to suggest Atlantis was ever real with many historians believing it a mythical land created from the author’s imagination.”

>> This is not accurate. It's been postulated that the Library of Alexandria had records of Atlantis, but alas, all the records were burned, supposedly that is. It’s been a while that I’m really doubting the library burned.

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“The Debate Continues

Others argue the Lost City is now under water while the exact location continues to be debated.

The Mediterranean is one suggested spot while some claim it lies under the frozen waters of Antarctica.

Speaking to National Geographic, Charles Orser, Curator of History at the New York State Museum in Albany, said, “Pick a spot on the map, and someone has said that Atlantis was there.

“Every place you can imagine.”

In a similar study to Sibson, Swedish researcher, Dr Ulf Erlingsson, made an even more radical claim.

After visiting Ireland to study the megalithic tombs of Newgrange in Co. Meath, he suggested that Ireland itself was, in fact, the Kingdom of Atlantis Plato talked about.

He believed the tombs were directly linked to the ancient temples of Poseidon, God of sea, earthquakes, storms and horses.

While the Hill of Tara in Co. Meath, where the legendary high kings of Ireland reportedly gathered, reflects the capital city of the lost continent.

Speaking from the Emerald Isle in 2004, Erlingsson said, “Atlantis has a central plain fringed by mountains which is exactly what I saw at Newgrange today.

“And Plato said that 10 kings met in the Atlantis capital every five years, which would equate with Tara’s historical connection with the high kings.”

But more recent findings suggest the Lost City is not Ireland itself but located off the West Coast.

The name ‘Atlantis’ supports the claim it lies beneath the Atlantic Ocean while aerial pictures show images of a silhouette resembling a small continent under the water.

The actual existence of ‘Atlantis’ has yet to be scientifically proven and remains a source for debate, wonder and romantic ponder.

And where better to place it for now than off the West Coast of our own beautiful land?”

>> We used to be like a lot of people and researchers out there, thinking Atlantis was somewhere under the water. But now we changed, we believe it’s NOT underwater. What is certain is that there are a lot of ancient underwater “cities” or structures which were submerged after the cataclysm = the water level has changed from what it was in the past. So I think what is talked about here, in this article, is not the city of Atlantis itself, but like structures from the ancient Civilization of Atlantis. It’s possible, but it needs verification and we must find the structures = not just theoretical.

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>>16657348

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There seem to be some “sunken” pyramids in the Atlantic Ocean, located near the island of Cuba. So let’s take a look what this is about: https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-americas/what-happened-sunken-city-cuba-001883

“UPDATED 22 JULY, 2014 - 13:56 APRILHOLLOWAY

What Happened to the Sunken City of Cuba?

Just over a decade ago, a team of explorers were working on an exploration and survey mission off the western coast of Cuba when their sonar equipment picked up a perplexing series of stone structures lying some 650 metres below the surface. The structures appeared completely analogous against the barren ‘desert’ of the ocean floor and seemed to show symmetrically organized stones reminiscent of an urban development. A media flurry soon ensued with news sites sporting headlines such as ‘Atlantis Discovered in Cuba’ and ‘Lost City of the Caribbean Found’. However, the finding also attracted the attention of the government, national museum, and national geographic, who all made promises to investigate the strange sonar images. Now, ten years on, the story has disappeared into obscurity. What ever happened to the sunken ‘ruins’ of Cuba? Were they ever fully investigated? And why has the media fallen silent on this unusual discovery?”

>> Is anyone reading truly surprised by how the Main Stream Media and the “experts” all behaved when this discovery was made public?

“The discovery was first made in 2001 when Pauline Zalitzki, a marine engineer, and her husband Paul Weinzweig, owners of a Canadian company called Advanced Digital Communications (ADC), were working on a survey mission in conjunction with the Cuban government off the tip of the Guanahacabibes Peninsula in the Pinar del Río Province of Cuba. ADC was one of four firms working in a joint venture with President Fidel Castro's government to explore Cuban waters, which hold hundreds of treasure-laden ships from the Spanish colonial era. The team was using advanced sonar equipment to scan a 2 square kilometre area of the sea floor when they noticed a series of symmetrical and geometric stone structures resembling an urban complex.”

>> Ever wondered why the Cuban island and the Castro regime were “isolated” for so long? What was really going on there? Is it as simple as fighting a communist regime? Or was there something else that we shouldn’t be aware of?

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>>16657353

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“Upon studying the sonar images, Zalitzki observed what appeared to be unusual formations of smooth blocks, crests, and geometric shapes. Some of the blocks looked like they were built in pyramid shapes, others were circular.

In July 2001, they returned to the site with geologist Manuel Iturralde, senior researcher of Cuba's Natural History Museum, this time equipped with a Remotely Operated Vehicle to examine and film the structures. The images revealed large blocks of stone resembling hewn granite, measuring about 8 feet by 10 feet. Some blocks appeared deliberately stacked atop one another, others appeared isolated from the rest. Zalitzki said that the images appeared to reflect the ruins of a submerged city but was reluctant to draw any conclusions without further evidence.

“These are extremely peculiar structures, and they have captured our imagination,” said Iturralde, who has studied countless underwater formations. “But if I had to explain this geologically, I would have a hard time.”

Estimating that it would have taken 50,000 years for such structures to have sunken to the depth at which they were said to be found, Iturralde added "50,000 years ago there wasn't the architectural capacity in any of the cultures we know of to build complex buildings." A specialist in underwater archaeology at Florida State University added "It would be cool if they were right, but it would be real advanced for anything we would see in the New World for that time frame. The structures are out of time and out of place."

>> That is if we don’t know about the Cataclysm and we don’t know about an ancient and lost civilization, then yeah, if you follow the Main Stream History narrative, these structures near Cuba would be out of time and out of place.

“In the media storm that followed the announcement of the discovery, news sites were quick to draw parallels with the fabled lost city of Atlantis. However, Zelitsky and Weinzweig were unwilling to make such comparisons. The story is myth, said Zelitsky. "What we have found is more likely remnants of a local culture," once located on a 100-mile "land bridge" that joined Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula with Cuba. Iturralde added that there are local legends of the Maya and native Yucatecos that tell of an island inhabited by their ancestors that vanished beneath the waves. Nevertheless, Iturralde does not discount the possibility that the rock formations are merely the result of the wonders of Mother Nature. “Nature is able to create some really unimaginable structures,” he said.”

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>>16657356

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“Despite hundreds of media outlets reporting on sunken cities, advanced civilizations, the lost city of Atlantis, and submerged ruins, there are others who are not so willing to accept this point of view. Keith Fitzpatrick-Matthews from the debunking website Bad Archaeology, claimed that the depth of the alleged remains are the biggest problem for the sunken city proponents. During the Pleistocene, which was characterised by a series of ice ages, sea levels dropped significantly, but the maximum drop was around 100 metres.

“At no point during the Ice Age would it have been above sea level unless, of course, the land on which they stand has sunk. This is the claim made for Atlantis: according to Plato’s account, it was destroyed “by violent earthquakes and floods”. However, if we take Plato at his word – as we must if we assume Atlantis to have been an historical place – the violence of its sinking makes it improbable that an entire city could have survived plunging more than 600 m into an abyss,” writes Fitzpatrick-Matthews.”

>> This is not the city of Atlantis, this is another city/structure sunk because of the Cataclysm, which included an Ice Age, land sinking, volcanic eruption, a flood and earth splitting earthquakes, etc.

“If we assume that he is right and that these stone structures do not reflect an ancient submerged city but are simply products of nature, then surely geologists and other scientists would be quick to jump on the finding and investigate what freakish event of nature caused such peculiar formations. Strangely, however, there have been no reported follow-up investigations and news outlets have gone deathly silent on the matter. What happened to all the promises from the government, national museum, National Geographic, and other scientists to carry out further surveys?

The quick dismissal of the story has led some to question whether there has been a suppression of information regarding the finding. However, Fitzpatrick-Matthews claims the story simply went cold and that in the end experts were not convinced that Zelitsky had really discovered a sunken city.”

>> The MSM and the Academic world gave this discovery the “cold shoulder” because they were ordered to. Both of them protect the narrative their (((masters))) want to peddle forward. If these images are true, authentic, then these are not rock formations but a sunken city which used to belong to the lost, ancient Civilization we call Atlantis. This is not the City of Atlantis itself, but it was part of that civilization. Remember what we have found out about Atlantis = it was an empire/kingdom with a territory which the land of Ancient Egypt was part of.

I think the idea is clear for anons that some structures possibly belonging to a lost, ancient civilization were found close to Cuba, but underwater. And the issue was totally ignored by the media and the “experts” = it’s to cover the truth and not expose the lies inside History. This is it for this subject. Just having a quick idea about it is enough for this thread because such structures (if they are real) are proof of not just the existence of an ancient lost civilization but also are evidence of the Cataclysm occurring. Such cities and structures are not underwater because of climate change. Something devating happened and the geology and geography of the earth totally changed. Such sites may hold trace of the Cataclysm = physical evidence of how devastating it was. Pompeii is a good example how devastation can leave traces on cities/villages.

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Next I’m going to take a look at something peculiar; it’s the Bermuda triangle and all the “myths” or should I say the “urban legends” about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_Triangle

“The Bermuda Triangle, also known as the Devil's Triangle, is a loosely defined region in the western part of the North Atlantic Ocean where a number of aircraft and ships are said to have disappeared under mysterious circumstances. The idea of the area as uniquely prone to disappearances arose in the mid-20th century, but most reputable sources dismiss the idea that there is any mystery.”

>> Where are Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie? We have a grand mystery on our hands here. When reading this, what caught your attention anons? =

1 - It’s called the Devil’s Triangle….why is that?

2 - Aircrafts and ships have mysteriously disappeared in that area, mostly during the middle of the 20th century. Why did those vessels disappeared like that?

“Origins

The earliest suggestion of unusual disappearances in the Bermuda area appeared in a September 17, 1950, article published in The Miami Herald (Associated Press) by Edward Van Winkle Jones. Two years later, Fate magazine published "Sea Mystery at Our Back Door", a short article by George Sand covering the loss of several planes and ships, including the loss of Flight 19, a group of five US Navy Grumman TBM Avenger torpedo bombers on a training mission. Sand's article was the first to lay out the now-familiar triangular area where the losses took place, as well as the first to suggest a supernatural element to the Flight 19 incident. Flight 19 alone would be covered again in the April 1962 issue of American Legion magazine. In it, author Allan W. Eckert wrote that the flight leader had been heard saying, "We are entering white water, nothing seems right. We don't know where we are, the water is green, no white." He also wrote that officials at the Navy board of inquiry stated that the planes "flew off to Mars."

In February 1964, Vincent Gaddis wrote an article called "The Deadly Bermuda Triangle" in the pulp magazine Argosy saying Flight 19 and other disappearances were part of a pattern of strange events in the region.The next year, Gaddis expanded this article into a book, Invisible Horizons.

Other writers elaborated on Gaddis' ideas: John Wallace Spencer (Limbo of the Lost, 1969, repr. 1973); Charles Berlitz (The Bermuda Triangle, 1974);[12] Richard Winer (The Devil's Triangle, 1974), and many others, all keeping to some of the same supernatural elements outlined by Eckert.”

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“Triangle area

The Gaddis Argosy article delineated the boundaries of the triangle, giving its vertices as Miami; San Juan, Puerto Rico; and Bermuda. Subsequent writers did not necessarily follow this definition. Some writers gave different boundaries and vertices to the triangle, with the total area varying from 1,300,000 to 3,900,000 km2 (500,000 to 1,510,000 sq mi). "Indeed, some writers even stretch it as far as the Irish coast." Consequently, the determination of which accidents occurred inside the triangle depends on which writer reported them.”

>> Where was Epstein’s island located again? I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

“Criticism of the concept

Larry Kusche

Larry Kusche, author of The Bermuda Triangle Mystery: Solved (1975), argued that many claims of Gaddis and subsequent writers were exaggerated, dubious or unverifiable. Kusche's research revealed a number of inaccuracies and inconsistencies between Berlitz's accounts and statements from eyewitnesses, participants, and others involved in the initial incidents. Kusche noted cases where pertinent information went unreported, such as the disappearance of round-the-world yachtsman Donald Crowhurst, which Berlitz had presented as a mystery, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Another example was the ore-carrier recounted by Berlitz as lost without trace three days out of an Atlantic port when it had been lost three days out of a port with the same name in the Pacific Ocean. Kusche also argued that a large percentage of the incidents that sparked allegations of the Triangle's mysterious influence actually occurred well outside it. Often his research was simple: he would review period newspapers of the dates of reported incidents and find reports on possibly relevant events like unusual weather, that were never mentioned in the disappearance stories.

Kusche concluded that:

• The number of ships and aircraft reported missing in the area was not significantly greater, proportionally speaking, than in any other part of the ocean.

• In an area frequented by tropical cyclones, the number of disappearances that did occur were, for the most part, neither disproportionate, unlikely, nor mysterious.

• Furthermore, Berlitz and other writers would often fail to mention such storms or even represent the disappearance as having happened in calm conditions when meteorological records clearly contradict this.

• The numbers themselves had been exaggerated by sloppy research. A boat's disappearance, for example, would be reported, but its eventual (if belated) return to port may not have been.

• Some disappearances had, in fact, never happened. One plane crash was said to have taken place in 1937, off Daytona Beach, Florida, in front of hundreds of witnesses; a check of the local papers revealed nothing.

• The legend of the Bermuda Triangle is a manufactured mystery, perpetuated by writers who either purposely or unknowingly made use of misconceptions, faulty reasoning, and sensationalism.

In a 2013 study, the World Wide Fund for Nature identified the world's 10 most dangerous waters for shipping, but the Bermuda Triangle was not among them.”

>> For those interested in this type of research and want to solve the mystery, you should start by checking out the background of Kusche and then if the disappearances truly happened as reported, or if he was right and most are exaggerated.

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“Further responses

When the UK Channel 4 television program The Bermuda Triangle (1992) was being produced by John Simmons of Geofilms for the Equinox series, the marine insurance market Lloyd's of London was asked if an unusually large number of ships had sunk in the Bermuda Triangle area. Lloyd's determined that large numbers of ships had not sunk there. Lloyd's does not charge higher rates for passing through this area. United States Coast Guard records confirm their conclusion. In fact, the number of supposed disappearances is relatively insignificant considering the number of ships and aircraft that pass through on a regular basis.”

>> This should be checked. If what is stated here is correct, then why the hype about Bermuda’s triangle and why create this story of mysterious disappearances?

“The Coast Guard is also officially skeptical of the Triangle, noting that they collect and publish, through their inquiries, much documentation contradicting many of the incidents written about by the Triangle authors. In one such incident involving the 1972 explosion and sinking of the tanker V. A. Fogg, the Coast Guard photographed the wreck and recovered several bodies, in contrast with one Triangle author's claim that all the bodies had vanished, with the exception of the captain, who was found sitting in his cabin at his desk, clutching a coffee cup. In addition, V. A. Fogg sank off the coast of Texas, nowhere near the commonly accepted boundaries of the Triangle.

The Nova/Horizon episode The Case of the Bermuda Triangle, aired on June 27, 1976, was highly critical, stating that "When we've gone back to the original sources or the people involved, the mystery evaporates. Science does not have to answer questions about the Triangle because those questions are not valid in the first place … Ships and planes behave in the Triangle the same way they behave everywhere else in the world."

Skeptical researchers, such as Ernest Taves and Barry Singer, have noted how mysteries and the paranormal are very popular and profitable. This has led to the production of vast amounts of material on topics such as the Bermuda Triangle. They were able to show that some of the pro-paranormal material is often misleading or inaccurate, but its producers continue to market it. Accordingly, they have claimed that the market is biased in favor of books, TV specials, and other media that support the Triangle mystery, and against well-researched material if it espouses a skeptical viewpoint.”

>> Whom controls and manages this “market” for mysteries and why? Once more I’m asking: Why the hype about the Bermuda triangle? Also why the MSM working hard to show there is nothing about the triangle but an overblown story? We’ve got some very “strange” behavior here, and it’s pointing in 2 very different, opposite directions.

“Benjamin Radford, an author and scientific paranormal investigator, noted in an interview on the Bermuda Triangle that it could be very difficult locating an aircraft lost at sea due to the vast search area, and although the disappearance might be mysterious, that did not make it paranormal or unexplainable. Radford further noted the importance of double-checking information as the mystery surrounding the Bermuda Triangle had been created by people who had neglected to do so.”

>> This is possible. But then you gotta ask yourself why these people (in plural) created such an “urban legend”? It’s coordinated on a rather grand scale, isn’t it, for a fake mystery? Whom has the capacity to orchestrate such a grand scale fake story? Whom benefits from it and what’s the real purpose behind it if this is fake? The Bermuda triangle’s story is fishy either you believe it’s real or not. The behavior on both sides is odd.

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“Hypothetical explanations attempts

Persons accepting the Bermuda Triangle as a real phenomenon have offered a number of explanatory approaches.

Paranormal explanations

Triangle writers have used a number of supernatural concepts to explain the events. One explanation pins the blame on leftover technology from the mythical lost continent of Atlantis. Sometimes connected to the Atlantis story is the submerged rock formation known as the Bimini Road off the island of Bimini in the Bahamas, which is in the Triangle by some definitions. Followers of the purported psychic Edgar Cayce take his prediction that evidence of Atlantis would be found in 1968, as referring to the discovery of the Bimini Road. Believers describe the formation as a road, wall, or other structure, but the Bimini Road is of natural origin.”

>> See how this is worded = to ridicule those whom research this. We’ve seen this before with other subjects which (((they))) don’t want us to look into.

“Some hypothesize that a parallel universe exists in the Bermuda Triangle region, causing a time/space warp that sucks the objects around it into a parallel universe. Others attribute the events to UFOs. Charles Berlitz, author of various books on anomalous phenomena, lists several theories attributing the losses in the Triangle to anomalous or unexplained forces.”

>> Are they suggesting there is a spacio-temporal distortion or a stargate in the triangle area?

“Natural explanations

Compass variations

Compass problems are one of the cited phrases in many Triangle incidents. While some have theorized that unusual local magnetic anomalies may exist in the area, such anomalies have not been found. Compasses have natural magnetic variations in relation to the magnetic poles, a fact which navigators have known for centuries. Magnetic (compass) north and geographic (true) north are exactly the same only for a small number of places – for example, as of 2000, in the United States, only those places on a line running from Wisconsin to the Gulf of Mexico. But the public may not be as informed, and think there is something mysterious about a compass "changing" across an area as large as the Triangle, which it naturally will.”

>> The important part here is that there is electro-magnetic interference or irregularity in the triangle zone. It is important to highlight and take notes of this.

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“Gulf Stream

The Gulf Stream is a major surface current, primarily driven by thermohaline circulation that originates in the Gulf of Mexico and then flows through the Straits of Florida into the North Atlantic. In essence, it is a river within an ocean, and, like a river, it can and does carry floating objects. It has a maximum surface velocity of about 2 m/s (6.6 ft/s). A small plane making a water landing or a boat having engine trouble can be carried away from its reported position by the current.”

>> Yeah, right! And I’m the tooth fairy.

“Human error

One of the most cited explanations in official inquiries as to the loss of any aircraft or vessel is human error. Human stubbornness may have caused businessman Harvey Conover to lose his sailing yacht, Revonoc, as he sailed into the teeth of a storm south of Florida on January 1, 1958.”

>> It would be human error if it happens a couple of times, 3 at most. But it’s not like that when it happened a large number of times for a very long time.

“Violent weather

Hurricanes are powerful storms that form in tropical waters and have historically cost thousands of lives and caused billions of dollars in damage. The sinking of Francisco de Bobadilla's Spanish fleet in 1502 was the first recorded instance of a destructive hurricane. These storms have in the past caused a number of incidents related to the Triangle. Many Atlantic hurricanes pass through the Triangle as they recurve off the Eastern Seaboard, and, before the advent of weather satellite, ships often had little to no warning of a hurricane's approach.

A powerful downdraft of cold air was suspected to be a cause in the sinking of Pride of Baltimore on May 14, 1986. The crew of the sunken vessel noted the wind suddenly shifted and increased velocity from 32 km/h (20 mph) to 97–145 km/h (60–90 mph). A National Hurricane Center satellite specialist, James Lushine, stated "during very unstable weather conditions the downburst of cold air from aloft can hit the surface like a bomb, exploding outward like a giant squall line of wind and water." A similar event occurred to Concordia in 2010, off the coast of Brazil. Scientists are currently investigating whether "hexagonal" clouds may be the source of these up-to-170 mph (270 km/h) "air bombs".

Methane hydrates

An explanation for some of the disappearances has focused on the presence of large fields of methane hydrates (a form of natural gas) on the continental shelves. Laboratory experiments carried out in Australia have proven that bubbles can, indeed, sink a scale model ship by decreasing the density of the water; any wreckage consequently rising to the surface would be rapidly dispersed by the Gulf Stream. It has been hypothesized that periodic methane eruptions (sometimes called "mud volcanoes") may produce regions of frothy water that are no longer capable of providing adequate buoyancy for ships. If this were the case, such an area forming around a ship could cause it to sink very rapidly and without warning.

Publications by the USGS describe large stores of undersea hydrates worldwide, including the Blake Ridge area, off the coast of the southeastern United States. However, according to the USGS, no large releases of gas hydrates are believed to have occurred in the Bermuda Triangle for the past 15,000 years.”

>> LoL! Nothing close to it happened for the past 15 000 years and yet, this is pushed forward as an explanation. (((They))) surely are going out of (((their))) way to provide ANY explanation to divert the attention from the Bermuda triangle.

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“Notable incidents

HMS Atalanta

The sail training ship HMS Atalanta (originally named HMS Juno) disappeared with her entire crew after setting sail from the Royal Naval Dockyard, Bermuda for Falmouth, England on 31 January 1880. It was presumed that she sank in a powerful storm which crossed her route a couple of weeks after she sailed, and that her crew being composed primarily of inexperienced trainees may have been a contributing factor. The search for evidence of her fate attracted worldwide attention at the time (connection is also often made to the 1878 loss of the training ship HMS Eurydice, which foundered after departing the Royal Naval Dockyard in Bermuda for Portsmouth on 6 March), and she was alleged decades later to have been a victim of the mysterious triangle, an allegation resoundingly refuted by the research of author David Francis Raine in 1997.”

>> So it’s not certain if HMS Atalanta disappeared in the zone of the Bermuda triangle.

“USS Cyclops

The incident resulting in the single largest loss of life in the history of the US Navy not related to combat occurred when the collier Cyclops, carrying a full load of manganese ore and with one engine out of action, went missing without a trace with a crew of 309 sometime after March 4, 1918, after departing the island of Barbados. Although there is no strong evidence for any single theory, many independent theories exist, some blaming storms, some capsizing, and some suggesting that wartime enemy activity was to blame for the loss. In addition, two of Cyclops's sister ships, Proteus and Nereus were subsequently lost in the North Atlantic during World War II. Both ships were transporting heavy loads of metallic ore similar to that which was loaded on Cyclops during her fatal voyage. In all three cases structural failure due to overloading with a much denser cargo than designed is considered the most likely cause of sinking.”

>> Yes, the metal load seems to have played a role here, but not the one cited. Manganese is paramagnetic, so it ALLOWS magnetic force lines through it but it cannot create a magnetic field. Manganese removes oxygen and sulfur when iron ore (an iron and oxygen compound) is converted into iron. It also is an essential alloy that helps convert iron into steel. Interesting information about Manganese, isn’t it anons?

“Carroll A. Deering

Carroll A. Deering, a five-masted schooner built in 1919, was found hard aground and abandoned at Diamond Shoals, near Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, on January 31, 1921. FBI investigation into the Deering scrutinized, then ruled out, multiple theories as to why and how the ship was abandoned, including piracy, domestic Communist sabotage and the involvement of rum-runners.”

>> Sounds like this has nothing to do with the Bermuda triangle from what is written here? Those whom are interested should check out these cases named here very carefully and study the path of the ships to verify if they had sailed through the Bermuda triangle or not.

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“Flight 19

Flight 19 was a training flight of five TBM Avenger torpedo bombers that disappeared on December 5, 1945, while over the Atlantic. The squadron's flight plan was scheduled to take them due east from Fort Lauderdale for 141 mi (227 km), north for 73 mi (117 km), and then back over a final 140-mile (230-kilometre) leg to complete the exercise. The flight never returned to base. The disappearance was attributed by Navy investigators to navigational error leading to the aircraft running out of fuel.

One of the search and rescue aircraft deployed to look for them, a PBM Mariner with a 13-man crew, also disappeared. A tanker off the coast of Florida reported seeing an explosion and observing a widespread oil slick when fruitlessly searching for survivors. The weather was becoming stormy by the end of the incident. According to contemporaneous sources the Mariner had a history of explosions due to vapour leaks when heavily loaded with fuel, as it might have been for a potentially long search-and-rescue operation.”

>> Sounds like it was attacked.

“Star Tiger and Star Ariel

G-AHNP Star Tiger disappeared on January 30, 1948, on a flight from the Azores to Bermuda; G-AGRE Star Ariel disappeared on January 17, 1949, on a flight from Bermuda to Kingston, Jamaica. Both were Avro Tudor IV passenger aircraft operated by British South American Airways. Both planes were operating at the very limits of their range and the slightest error or fault in the equipment could keep them from reaching the small island.

Douglas DC-3

On December 28, 1948, a Douglas DC-3 aircraft, number NC16002, disappeared while on a flight from San Juan, Puerto Rico, to Miami. No trace of the aircraft, or the 32 people on board, was ever found. A Civil Aeronautics Board investigation found there was insufficient information available on which to determine probable cause of the disappearance.

Connemara IV

A pleasure yacht was found adrift in the Atlantic south of Bermuda on September 26, 1955; it is usually stated in the stories (Berlitz, Winer) that the crew vanished while the yacht survived being at sea during three hurricanes. The 1955 Atlantic hurricane season shows Hurricane Ione passing nearby between 14 and 18 September, with Bermuda being affected by winds of almost gale force. In his second book on the Bermuda Triangle, Winer quoted from a letter he had received from Mr J.E. Challenor of Barbados:”

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“On the morning of September 22, Connemara IV was lying to a heavy mooring in the open roadstead of Carlisle Bay. Because of the approaching hurricane, the owner strengthened the mooring ropes and put out two additional anchors. There was little else he could do, as the exposed mooring was the only available anchorage. … In Carlisle Bay, the sea in the wake of Hurricane Janet was awe-inspiring and dangerous. The owner of Connemara IV observed that she had disappeared. An investigation revealed that she had dragged her moorings and gone to sea.

KC-135 Stratotankers

On August 28, 1963, a pair of US Air Force KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft collided and crashed into the Atlantic 300 miles west of Bermuda. Some writers say that while the two aircraft did collide there were two distinct crash sites, separated by over 160 miles (260 km) of water. However, Kusche's research showed that the unclassified version of the Air Force investigation report revealed that the debris field defining the second "crash site" was examined by a search and rescue ship, and found to be a mass of seaweed and driftwood tangled in an old buoy.”

Of course this was in Wikipedia, so let’s do some more reading to see get more information from other sources: w ww.marineinsight.com/maritime-history/5-famous-mysterious-stories-of-the-bermuda-triangle/

“Bermuda triangle, also known as the Devil’s Triangle, happens to be one of the most mysterious places on this planet. Located off the southeastern coast of the US in the Atlantic Ocean, between Bermuda, Florida and Puerto Rico, the region has become the Centre of unresolved mysteries.

Covering an area of 440,000 miles of sea, the Bermuda triangle is part of a busy shipping route, with several vessels heading to America, Europe and the Caribbean crossing through every day.

It is more due to the inexplicable outcomes that make it a highly studied yet enigmatic component of the earth’s surface.

Over the centuries, many ships and planes have been reported to have mysteriously disappeared in the region.

Also, this Devil’s Triangle has been blamed for the disappearance of thousands of people in the past decades.

The term “Bermuda Triangle” was first used by Vincent Gaddis in 1964 in his article published in Argosy magazine.”

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“The stories around the Bermuda triangle begin in Christopher Columbus’s time when he reportedly saw a flame of fire crashing into the sea in the triangle during his first voyage to the New World.

However, the mysterious behaviour of the region came to the public attention only in the 20th century when the Navy cargo ship, USS Cyclops, with more than 300 people on board, went missing in the Bermuda triangle. The latest incident in the region is the disappearance of a small twin-engine plane in May this year.”

>> I had previously thought that the Bermuda triangle “affects” only modern day type of machinery and vessels, but it seems I was wrong. If the “anomaly” dates back to the time of Columbus’ voyage, then it doesn’t affect modern day machinery, but more likely it affects navigation. I’m thinking more like disturbing the compass = old time and modern time.

“With four people on board, the plane suddenly disappeared from the radar when it was flying from Puerto Rico to Florida, and the debris from the missing plane was found later.”

>> Makes it sound like it was shot down by something.

“The recent incident that involved a ship was the sinking of a cargo vessel in the Bermuda Triangle during a deadly hurricane in October 2015.

As the accidents, often mysterious, continue to happen in the Bermuda Triangle region, many have offered a number of explanations for the mystery behind them.

“The role of paranormal activities and the presence of aliens have been strongly suggested by those who believe something odd is happening, while many with scientific views disputed this argument offering rational explanations to the phenomenon.

Among the few proposed scientific explanation, the more popular is the theory of electromagnetic interference that causes compass problems.”

>> I’m not an expert, but I know for sure it’s not aliens. Also, from reading about the Bermuda triangle from time to time, I have constructed this opinion about the disappearances being somehow related to some type of electromagnetic interference. It’s not like I have been keeping a track of this matter, but I have the blessing of remembering what I read about, over the years, and each time I read about the Bermuda triangle, I always get this image about something magnetic playing a part in all of this.

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“This theory claims that there is a very high pull of the earth’s natural magnet, which redirects the compass and other sophisticated equipment, and disallows them to take their intended route through the waters.”

>> I’m in the mindset there is something magnetic, like electro-magnetic in the area of the Bermuda triangle, but I don’t agree with the theory presented here as in the source of the high magnetic field is from the earth’s natural magnet.

“However, as no single theory could offer a concrete explanation, many still believe there is nothing strange with the region as most of the incidents were inaccurately reported or fictionalised versions of the accidents.”

>> This is possible, for some of the incidents, but not all of them.

“Notwithstanding that there is no proven theory for the exact reason behind the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle, the accidents continue to happen in the region every year.

And, the legends of the Bermuda Triangle consists of a number of the mysterious disappearance of vessels in the region; most of them remain least clueless still. Here is a list of the most noted stories of disappearance or the unresolved mysteries of ship accidents in the Devil’s Triangle.

Famous Bermuda Triangle Stories

1. Mary Celeste

Possibly one of the most mysterious stories of shipwrecks, this ship is a tale of its own. Despite being found adrift in some other location in the Atlantic Ocean, the connection to the Bermuda triangle had been somehow invoked to find an answer to the mystery of its fate.

Discovered on 4th December 1872 with everything right in the place except for the entire crew, the ship was found stranded on the sea days after starting its journey from New York to Genoa, Italy.

There were seven crew members and Captain Benjamin Briggs, his wife, and their two-year-old daughter aboard the vessel, loaded with raw alcohol.

But, days after, when a passing British ship called Dei Gratia found Mary Celeste under partial sail in the Atlantic, off the Azores Islands, the ship was unmanned with no crew abroad, and the lifeboat was also missing.”

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“It was also found that nine of the barrels in the cargo were empty, and there was a sword on the deck. No trace of the people abroad the vessel or the missing lifeboat has ever been found.

Studies of the ship clearly ruled out the possibility of a pirate attack since everything on this ship, including the barrels of alcohol it was transporting and the crew’s valuable belongings, were intact.

Theories surrounding the mystery of the Mary Celeste also included the chances of a criminal conspiracy, alien abduction, and even an attack by a giant squid.

The possibility of a natural disaster was also on the list. Many suggested the role of an undersea earthquake behind the accident, while few proposed an accidental foraying of the vessel into the Bermuda Triangle.

However, as much as these speculations seem reasonable, they clearly don’t fit. After all, why would a perfectly skilled crew on a good weather day, with their ship entirely uncompromised, abandon it and then never surface again?”

>> Well, this is a mystery worthy of Sherlock Holmes: the lifeboat is missing as well as every single human on board, which suggest they might have used that lifeboat. Nine barrels went missing but in the same time, the “valuable” belongings were untouched. Seems there are no traces of damage or blood on the deck. Looking at all of these elements, it seems like the people on board had to leave the ship quickly = in a rush (not taking their precious belongings) because of some sort of danger and they used the lifeboats to only get stranded at sea. The question is: what was that danger which forced them to flee in a hurry for their lives and abandon themselves at the mercy of the sea?

“2. Ellen Austin

It is an unnerving triangle mystery associated with the American white oak schooner Ellen Austin. In 1881, the 210 feet long Ellen Austin was going to New York from London when she stumbled upon a derelict near the Bermuda Triangle. Everything seemed fine with the unidentified schooner drifting just north of the Sargasso Sea, but the missing crew.”

“Captain Baker of the Ellen Austin asked to observe the derelict for two days to make sure it’s not a trap. After two days with no response from the ship, the captain entered the abandoned vessel with his crew to find the well-packed shipment and no sign of the crew.”

>> So once more, the shipment was not touched.

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“To tow it back with Ellen Austin, the captain placed a prize crew on the ship, set to sail together. However, after two days of sail on calm waters, a squall separated the path of the two ships, following which the derelict vanished.

Days after the storm, according to the stories, Captain Baker’s lookout could spot the vessel through his spyglass only to realise the vessel drifting far away aimlessly once again. Finally, after hours of effort, Ellen Austin could catch up with the vessel.

But, strangely, no one was on board. However, another version of the story suggests a second attempt by Baker to bring her back to land but ended with the same fate before Ellen Austin before abandoning the cursed vessel.

Other reports suggest that the derelict was once more spotted but this time had a separate crew than the prize crew placed on it by Ellen Austin.

The ship’s disappearance, reappearance, and the prize crew’s absence is an intriguing story. It is more like a secret of the Bermuda triangle, one that has seemingly no chances of being unravelled anytime soon.”

>> This is really odd.

“3. USS Cyclops

The disappearance of USS Cyclops, one of the Navy’s biggest fuel ships, marks the largest loss of life in the history of the US Navy in a single incident.

In March 1918, this massive ship set out to sail from Brazil to Baltimore through the Bermuda region carrying 10,800 tons of manganese ore with about 309 crew members on board. Setting off on a fairly good day, this ship’s first and only message indicated no sort of troubles.

However, the ship was never heard from again. An entire search of the area was put into action, but nothing was ever found. No remains of the ship or any crew members aboard have ever been found. The captain of the USS Cyclops never sent a distress signal, and no one aboard responded to radio calls from other vessels in the vicinity.

The naval investigators also failed to find a definite cause for its disappearance though there were a number of theories suggesting various reasons.

Due to its mysterious disappearance, Cyclops has become part of the list of more than 100 ships and planes to have vanished under strange circumstances in the Bermuda triangle.”

>> The cargo of the Cyclops was notable. Maybe it was targeted.

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“4. Carroll A. Deering

Carroll A. Deering, a five-masted commercial schooner, is one of the most written-about maritime mysteries of the 20th century due to the complete mystery around its abandonment.

On January 31, 1921, Carroll A. Deering was found hard aground on the treacherous rocks of Hatteras Diamond Shoals, North Carolina. There were speculations that the vessel was involved in rum-running.

However, when the investigation team from Barbados reached the vessel after days of effort in the rough sea, what they found was a deserted ship with all crew members missing along with the crew’s personal belongings, ships navigational equipment, logbooks, and life rafts, among others.”

>> So this time around, they took everything along with them. It’s like somebody took everything that might be useful and valuable along with the crew.

“Often knows as “Ghost Ship of the Outer Banks”, the disappearance of Carroll A. Deering along with few other vessels during the same time period in the Bermuda triangle area has been valuable information on the mysterious waters, but nothing could bring anyone any closer to solving this mystery.

Reports suggest that as many as nine vessels disappeared during this period from the same region- none of which was ever heard from again.

1. Witchcraft

On December 22, 1967, a cabin cruiser named witchcraft left Miami with her captain Dan Burack and his friend, Father Patrick Horgan.

The two gentlemen’s journey on the 23-foot luxury yacht was to enjoy the wonderful view of Miami’s Christmas lights. However, after reaching just one mile from offshore, the coast guard received a call from the captain stating that his ship had hit something, but there was no substantial damage.”

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>>16657436

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“Indicating help to be towed to the shore, the coast guard set off immediately reaching witchcraft in as many as 19 minutes alone but to nothing.

The area indicating the ship’s location was completely deserted, with no signs of any ship having been stranded or even present there previously.

What’s most intriguing about this story is that this particular cruiser was virtually unsinkable, not to mention numerous life-saving devices present aboard, including life jackets, lifeboats, flares, distress signal devices etc.

None of them was used, and the ship was gone. The coast guard officials searched hundreds of square miles of the ocean over the next few days but were unsuccessful. Nothing of this ship has been found until this day. The ship is gone and what remains is only the speculation that can be done now.

Over to you…”

Those are terribly intriguing stories, aren’t they? I noticed 2 notables about all of these disappearances:

1 – The state of the Ships: most of the ships were found mostly intact and almost untouched. Of course there are a few varieties here, like some ships were totally missing and others were emptied out of personal and valuable items, but in general, the ships remained rather intact. This indicates that no battle or fight took place, but in the same time, something sudden happened to them.

2 – Seems like the main target were the people on board of these ships. Sure, it varies from one case to another, but this is not related to theft of valuables which were on board. There is a possibility the lifeboats were purposely “taken away” in order to make the search party believe that the crew used them = this might be done on purpose to cover up the disappearance of the crew while they were still on board of the ships. If this possibility turns out to be true, then the real target would be the people on board on these ships.

This is it for the “official” narrative. Next, we are going to take a look what’s on the other side of this coin.

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>>16657442

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There are many theories, alternative theories, about the Bermuda triangle’s strange events. I’m going to put 2 of them which seem the most logical or most likely to me.

The first possibility is the presence of an “alien” ship sunken there: https://www.india.com/news/world/alien-spaceship-in-bermuda-triangle-says-discovery-channel-treasure-hunter-3214305/

““Alien Spaceship in Bermuda Triangle, Says Discovery Channel Treasure Hunter

New Delhi, Aug 9: Explorer Darrell Miklos has recently made a discovery of what he claims to be the first concrete evidence of extra-terrestrial visit known to humanity. The Bermuda triangle has once again hit the headlines as Darrel Miklos discovered unidentified-submerged-objects which are of the size of a football field in the Bermuda Triangle. The discovery “will shock the world”, claims explorer Miklos who found them while on his Discovery Channel’s treasure hunt show ‘Cooper’s Treasure’.

Using secret maps created by famed NASA astronaut Gordon Cooper, Miklos was on a mission to research the shipwrecks in the Caribbean when he and his team stumbled upon the “large obtrusion” near the Bahamas in the Bermuda Triangle. “It was a formation unlike anything I’ve ever seen related to shipwreck material, it was too big for that. It was also something that was completely different from anything that I’ve seen that was made by nature,” recalls Miklos.

Miklos refers the obtrusion to the horizontal cylinder structures emerging out of a sort of a dome. These structures were found to be capable of expanding up to 300 feet, which is equivalent to a length of a US football field.

Geophysicists on the team claimed that the corals that covered the entire structure were apparently more than 5000 years old. The strange part is that it is being deemed impossible by the experts for the corals to grow at all at a location with such extreme currents. The scientists on the team were baffled because the extreme currents at the location made it impossible for corals in any part of the world to form and grow naturally. They hinted at the possibility of an underlying structure to support the growth.”

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“The diameter of the entire site, when spread out, is 600 feet which are the length of two football fields. The site was one of the 99 others showing a magnetic anomaly in the Caribbean. NASA astronaut Gordon Cooper, who is Miklo’s friend put together the map of all the anomalies back in the 1960s.”

>> This is an interesting “possibility” we have here, mostly if it turns out it’s true there are dozens of similar structures = ships, in the triangle area.

The readers may wonder why I think this is possibly the reason behind what is going on in the Bermuda’s triangle area. Well, let’s see:

1 – We already know there are MANY Arks which landed all over on high peaks. These Arks were of many sizes and shapes. Do you think all the Arks managed to escape the Cataclysm and reach safety? Isn’t it possible that a few of them were hit and damaged during the Cataclysm? What landed on Mt Kilimanjaro looks like it skid on the side of the mountain as if it crash landed. With all the turmoil taking place, it’s very possible some type of “accident” might have had happened to some of the Arks which ended up crash landing and sinking into the ocean.

So for me, it’s very possible that what we have in the Bermuda triangle are multiple Atlantean ships = Arks, which encountered “bad luck” while trying to escape from the Cataclysm.

2 – The dating of the coral on these supposed ships should be revised to older. With the date given to us in this article, it only indicates that it dates back to the time when King Narmer unified Ancient Egypt. I think this is much much older.

3 - The Arks having engines in them = Atlantean technology. There is a possibility it was running on some sort of “clean” energy engine. If the Bloodlines found/got (((their))) nasty little hands on these ships and tried to put them to work, then it makes sense why the compass behaves oddly in the triangle area sometimes.

Then it’s possible this might have created some type of energy/magnetic field….and no one knows what was on board of these ships and/or what type of Arks they were: were they transport ships, or battleships etc. So it’s possible other types of technology might have been found on board of these Arks, including weapons or other types of sophisticated advanced machinery. If this was the case…I repeat: IF this was the case, what are the odds the Bloodlines were experimenting these high tech weapons and machinery on passing ships and planes? I think it’s highly possible some sort of advanced technology was being tested which somehow managed to disrupt or generate a powerful magnetic field. All of those disappearances might be collateral victims to (((their))) experiments with Atlantean tech.

Of course this is all theoretical; this is a possibility, under the condition what turns out to be down there are a group of sunken Arks = Atlantean ships.

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>>16657452

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The second possibility is about claims of finding crystal pyramids which generate trememdous amount of energy in the Bermuda triangle area. Let’s do some reading about this matter: https://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2022/05/bermuda-triangle-crystal-pyramids-in-the-bermuda-triangle-video-2557396.html

“Bermuda Triangle: Crystal Pyramids in the Bermuda Triangle (video)

Wednesday, May 4, 2022 16:24

With the use of sonar, oceanographer Dr. Meyer Verlag discovered giant glass pyramids at a depth of two-thousand meters. The use of other devices have allowed scientists to determine that these glass giants are both made of a crystal-like substance, and are nearly 3 times bigger than the pyramid of Cheops in Egypt.

Dr. Verlag believes that further investigation into the secrets in the the pyramids center could reveal more information regarding the cases of mysterious disappearances associated with the Bermuda Triangle.

In a press conference held in the Bahamas, the scientist presented a report with the exact coordinates of the pyramids, and made note that the technology at use is unknown to modern science.

A more detailed study may bring results that are difficult for us to imagine. Who knows what will be discovered about these underwater architectural anomalies – perhaps something of shocking significance.

Built on Land – Lost During Last Pole Shift?

There are several Western scholars who argue that the pyramid on the seabed may have been initially made on the mainland, after which a devastating earthquake struck and changed the landscape completely.”

>> Oh I totally agree with this part.

“Other scientists argue that a few hundred years ago the waters of the Bermuda Triangle area may have as one of the cornerstone activities of the people of Atlantis, and Pyramids on the sea floor may be a supply warehouse for them.”

>> My eyes are filled with tears from laughter.

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>>16657458

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“The Bermuda Triangle is a mythical section of the Atlantic Ocean roughly bounded by Miami, Bermuda and Puerto Rico where dozens of ships and airplanes have disappeared.

A more detailed study over time will give results that are difficult to imagine. Scientists have processed all of the data and concluded that the surface is perfectly smooth for it to look like glass or ice. The size of the pyramids are nearly three times the size of the pyramids of Cheops.”

>> I’m not surprised to hear that the surface of this underwater pyramid is smooth and looks like glass. The readers shouldn’t forget that the pyramids of Giza have lost their outer casing which should have been a smooth surface, acting like a mirror reflecting the light. We’ve already talked about this on pages 164 – 165, while taking a look at the pyramids in Giza. The pyramids in Giza were battered really hard by the elements and time, so they got damaged and lost their outer casing. Seems like it’s not the case with the underwater pyramid of the Bermuda triangle; that is, if it really exists there.

“This news was sensational, and was discussed at a conference in Florida and even reported to local Florida newspapers.. The journalists present in it, have a lot of pictures and high resolution computerized data, which show three-dimensional pyramids perfectly smooth, without being covered with a surface free of debris or algae or cracks Pyramid.

Discovery Challenges Current Archaelogical Theory

A gigantic structure, initially identified by a doctor in the 1960s, has recently been independently verified by diving teams from France and the U.S.

The discovery has rocked scientists around the world. Will they rush to investigate it? No, they’re more likely to studiously ignore it. If pressed, they’ll officially position themselves as highly skeptical—especially in light of the potential ramifications.

The pyramid could confirm some engineers’ contentions that pyramids were originally created as massive power sources, support the claim that the ancient city-state of Atlantis did exist, or even provide answers to the mysterious goings-on that have been recorded since the 19th Century in the region of the Atlantic dubbed the Bermuda Triangle.

First discovered in 1968

According to the history, the pyramid was accidentally discovered during 1968 by a doctor of naturopathy, Ray Brown of Mesa, Arizona.

Brown was in the Caribbean on vacation and making dives with friends in a region off the Bahamas known as “the Tongue of the Ocean.” The area acquired that name because a tongue-shaped portion of the seabed extends out from the island before sharply dropping off into much greater depths.”

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>>16657464

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“When relating his discovery, the doctor explained he became separated from his diving friends underwater. While attempting to rejoin them he came upon a massive structure rising from the ocean floor: a black, hulking object silhouetted against the lighter sun-filtered water. The object was shaped like a pyramid.

Because he was low on air, he didn’t spend much time investigating the pyramid, but did find a strange crystal sphere.

He brought it to the surface with him and later when the ancient crystal was studied researchers were astonished by its properties.”

>> This is an interesting new detail. So a spherical artifact was brought back to the surface which was made of crystal. Where is that sphere? Are there pictures of it? Whom is studying it? Any information about it published?

“Properties of Crystal Pyramids

Some theories of Atlantis propose the island city’s power pyramids were made of crystal, or their tops were capped with a crystalline substance.

Could such a thing actually generate, store, and distribute energy on demand? Yes.

Experimenters discovered decades ago that pyramids do tend to act in some ways like a natural electrical capacitor gathering and storing energy around them. The larger the pyramid, the greater the capacity of gathering and storing energy. A pyramid’s composition is important too. Having one made of crystal, or an apex made of crystal, could vastly increase its power.”

>> We’ve already talked about the pyramids generating electricity in this thread, but we didn’t see the idea of “storing” that energy in pyramids. If this turns out to be correct, then the pyramids don’t just emit electricity, but also work as a huge battery.

“Crystal has long been known to have energy applications and exhibits natural piezoelectrical properties.

In 2012, a strange conspiracy theory emerged, suggesting that a huge crystal pyramid lies 2,000 metres below the Bermuda Triangle.”

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>>16657469

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“Early radio used germanium crystals to capture the radiowaves and convert them into electrical signals that could be processed and broadcast through headphones into soundwaves duplicating the human voice, music, and other sounds.

Pyramid power, say investigators, is intrinsic to the pyramid shape. It’s an architecture that’s proven to function as an energy accumulator and amplifier of energetic force.

As if to prove the investigators’ assertions true, recently some of the worlds pyramids began discharging beams of raw energy into space.”

>> This is the first time I hear about it.

“The bottom line? Pyramids are intrinsically natural generators of power. Pyramids and the ‘Cavity Structural Effect’

Barry Carter calls attention to another property that pyramids exhibit called the “Cavity Structural Effect” (CSE) by its discoverer, Dr. Viktor S. Grebennikov. The scientist employed the CSE to construct a rudimentary anti-gravitic platform.

Viktor S. Grebennikov demonstrates anti-gravity platform

Carter explains that “Grebennikov also claimed that he could feel energies emitting from the apex of a pyramid: ‘You will soon pick up an active zone, a “clot”, where the Egyptians had their tombs. Another active zone (a “flame”) above the top of the pyramid is also well-perceived by the indicator if you drag its end over the top.

“The “clot” and the “flame” are well-felt by the finger inserted into the pyramid, or your palm moved above it after some practice. The pyramid effect, which generated many scary and mysterious stories over the centuries, is one of the CSE manifestations.’”

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“A Bermuda Triangle ‘Death Vortex’

Another deadly phenomenon pyramids may create: an energy vortex

Besides the time and spatial anomalies reported in the Triangle, some survivors of terrifing incidents there have reported huge, swirling vortices suddenly appearing and disappearing .”

>> This is a new detail we have of what is taking place in the zone of the triangle.

“Evidence exists that some missing ships may have gone missing because of this phenomenon.

Observations of some of the submerged pyramids reveals they sporadically generate intense vortices in the ocean water flowing around them. Those vortices may be caused by a discharge of internal energy.

If those submerged pyramids also discharge massive enegy through their apexes, that could account for the formation of deadly vortices on the surface of the sea that swallows up whole ships along with their doomed crews.”

>> It’s a possibility.

“Future expeditions to these mysterious pyramids may finally uncover the truth and reveal amazing ancient technology.

Unfortunately, deep sea archaeology is very expensive and not well-funded. Most dives are to ancient wrecks that promise riches to risk-taking treasure hunters.

And, of course, the world’s universities are not especially eager to explore the idea that very ancient ruins containing high technology may exist that challenges virtually all of the foundations of their pet theories.”

>> I agree. He forgot to say that the BIG money for such “excavations” is under (((their)))control; just like (((they))) control the media and academic world; so this issue won’t get any funds nor attention. It will be disregarded as a hoax or it will be “debunked”, supposedly.

This is it for this article.

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I found me one last possibility as to what may cause all of the disappearances in the Bermuda triangle: https://nypost.com/2016/10/21/the-mystery-of-the-bermuda-triangle-may-finally-be-solved/

“The mystery of the Bermuda Triangle may finally be solved

October 21, 2016

Strange clouds forming above the Bermuda Triangle could explain why dozens of ships and planes have mysteriously vanished in the notorious patch of sea.

The remarkable new theory suggests the clouds are linked to 170-mph “air bombs” — capable of bringing down planes and ships.

Now the riddle could finally be solved after meteorologists speaking to the Science Channel’s “What on Earth?” revealed their findings.

Using radar satellite imagery, they discovered bizarre “hexagonal”-shaped clouds between 20 and 50 miles wide forming over the dodgy patch of water.

Meteorologist Dr. Randy Cerveny said: “The satellite imagery is really bizarre … the hexagonal shapes of the cloud formations.

“These types of hexagonal shapes in the ocean are in essence air bombs. They’re formed by what is called microbursts and they’re blasts of air.”

The blasts of air are so powerful, they can reach 170 mph — a hurricane-like force easily capable of sinking ships and downing planes.

For centuries, the notorious Bermuda Triangle — located between Miami, Puerto Rico and the island of Bermuda — has been linked with a high number of unexplained disappearances of aircraft and ships in its waters.

The reasons behind the losses have baffled researchers for decades.”

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>>16657509

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>> I’m not convinced at all with this possibility because we know of those weather modification/control machines the Bloodlines had for some time now. Another point which didn’t convince me about this possibility is the state in which the ships were found = barely any damage or no damage at all. If there were crazy winds out there and/or a storm cause by these crazy air bombs, wouldn’t the ships, mostly in older times, be a mess, a total mess? Not to mention it would be terribly dangerous to go on a life boat in such terribly weather conditions; I mean isn’t it safer to be on a large boat when there are crazy winds out there instead of being in a small one? I’m not convinced at all with this possibility.

I’m more convinced there is an electro-magnetic occurrence in the Bermuda triangle zone. It doesn’t matter for me if there is a sunken Atlantean ship emitting that electro-magnetic energy or if it’s a huge crystal pyramid. Either one have the potential of emitting that energy and I believe this is what’s affecting the compass of all the vessels. But this doesn’t explain the disappearance of the people on board, while some of the vessels were found in an almost intact state.

As for the crystal pyramid, I don’t know why, but I keep on remember the Fortress of Solitude from Superman, comics. When you look at it, despite being made of irregular form, the Fortress of Superman has the general shape of a pyramid; a pyramid made of big pieces of crystals. So I’m wondering if this is not a Hollywood projection of the crystal pyramid supposedly at the bottom of the Bermuda triangle.

It doesn’t stop there in the movie; we also see the crystals playing other roles, like the scene where it acts like a communication device or it was used to record and store data and messages from Superman’s father, pretty much like how we use a portable memory stick nowadays. It was also used as a chamber (=made of crystals) when superman was stripped of his powers in the Fortress of Solitude. At last, there was one type of crystal which was different = harmful, to Superman, the green colored one also known as Kryptonite. It’s the only thing that can kill him, which is indicating 2 things:

1 – Not all crystals are good for humans, some are bad as in harmful.

2 – The Bloodlines knew of the properties of these crystals, as in some are good for humans and some are harmful to them.

It’s an interesting idea isn’t it anons? How much in the movie was based on reality and what was found = discovered by the Bloodlines about these crystals and the pyramids. It’s highly possible the crystal pyramid at the bottom of the Bermuda triangle, if it exists, it can STORE energy = since storing is one of the properties of these crystals….I guess it all depends on which type of crystal it is.

One last comment: Epstein’s island is not that far away from the Bermuda triangle. Why on earth would (((they))) choose that specific location to build (((their))) damned little temple and practice (((their))) sick and disgusting cult in such a place? It’s not just because it was a remote place, but could it be it’s because it was near = close to the Bermuda triangle? All of the people sacrificed there, what happened to their spiritual energy? What happened to their souls? Were (((they))) store or captured in crystals?

I want to point about information of the existence of a cave with crystals in it, deep underground on Epstein Island. An anon mentioned it, but it needs verification and tangible proof to support these words. Time will tell, if there is something like that deep inside the island or not.

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>>16659221

This is the old man,

Since the board is being attacked and the threads are being filled, I will wait until this wave calms down a bit

I will start with thread 9 and won'tt repost any of the pages from thread 8. So if you want to save the pages, it's up to you.

The Serpent know their days are numbered and the clock is ticking, not much left. They are beyond panicking, if there is such a thing. It's going to get harder and nastier as we approach the big day.

I will keep on working in the mean time and you dear readers, take care and do prepare, it's not going to be a walk in the park.

Have a nice day and God bless you al.