>>16650877

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“The falcon warrior or "birdman" is a common motif in Mississippian culture. This burial clearly had powerful iconographic significance. In addition, a cache of sophisticated, finely worked arrowheads in a variety of different styles and materials was found near the grave of this important man. Separated into four types, each from a different geographical region, the arrowheads demonstrated Cahokia's extensive trade links in North America.

Archeologists recovered more than 250 other skeletons from Mound 72. Scholars believe almost 62% of these were sacrificial victims, based on signs of ritual execution, method of burial, and other factors. The skeletons include:

• Four young males, missing their hands and skulls

• A mass grave of more than 50 women around 21 years old, with the bodies arranged in two layers separated by matting

• A mass burial containing 40 men and women who appear to have been violently killed, some of these may have been buried alive: "From the vertical position of some of the fingers, which appear to have been digging in the sand, it is apparent that not all of the victims were dead when they were interred – that some had been trying to pull themselves out of the mass of bodies.”

The relationship of these burials to the central burial is unclear. They were unlikely to have all deposited at the same time. Wood in several parts of the mound has been radiocarbon-dated to between 950 and 1000 CE.

Excavations have indicated that Mound 72 was not constructed as a single mound, but rather as a series of smaller mounds. These mounds were reshaped and covered over to give Mound 72 its final ridge-top shape.”

>> When and mostly WHY were these people killed this way? Human sacrifice seemed to have taken place here, but as said, this was not done from the get go, but done at a later period and the mound was reshaped from the original one. See how you can identify burials with remains of human sacrifice in them? Now compare what we have here with what we have in Phoenicia: oops! We haven’t found a single grave like this one is Phoenicia. Then please compare what we have here with the graveyard of Carthage. Once again: oops! The cases are very different. See what I mean anons?

What I think happened is that at some point in time, after the founding of this site by the ThunderBirds, probably MANY generations later, the Evil Clan infiltrated instead of invading, and slowly took over and they replaced the cult of the Light by (((their))) disgusting cult. There is no way the ThunderBirds would accept humans to be sacrificed this way, NO WAY! This is not just my belief, but this is also supported by what was said about the Mound. The last 2 sentence are extremely important because they are proof indicating that this was added later on = by younger generation or by someone else which practiced human sacrifice and it was not part of the original site built by the ThunderBirds.

When I think about it, I’m not that surprised to find out this was added later on by (((them))) taking over this site, because (((they))) did the same thing to all the sites initially built by the Light Clans/warriors. And now I understand even more why the Bloodlines were interested in this site: it’s not just because this site was built by the Light, but because (((their))) ancient clan members desecrated this site and practiced human sacrifice here. It’s even making more sense now why this Mound was given the number of 72 by modern day archaeologists.

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>>16650948

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“Copper workshop

Excavations near Mound 34 from 2002 to 2010 revealed a copper workshop. This unique find was originally discovered in the 1950s by archaeologist Gregory Perino, but its exact location was lost for 60 years. It is the only known copper workshop to be found at a Mississippian culture site. The area contains the remains of three tree stumps thought to have been used to hold anvil stones. Analysis of copper found during excavations showed that it had been annealed, a technique involving repeatedly heating and cooling the metal as it is worked, as blacksmiths do with iron.

Artisans produced religious items, such as long-nosed god maskettes, ceremonial earrings with a symbolic shape, thought to have been used in fictive kinship rituals. Many of the stylistically related Mississippian copper plates, such as the Wulfing cache from southeastern Missouri, some of the Etowah plates from Georgia, and many of the Spiro plates from Oklahoma, are associated with the Greater Braden style and are thought to have been made in Cahokia in the 13th century.”

>> It’s amazing how the location of the workshop “was lost” or forgotten for 60 years then miraculously found back. Doesn’t this give (((them))) time to excavate the spot incognito and allows (((them))) to gather the information and artifacts (((they))) want without drawing the public’s attention? This way, (((they))) keep the information and the artifacts all to (((themselves))) without anyone asking questions.

“Cahokia Woodhenge

The Cahokia Woodhenge was a series of large timber circles located roughly 850 m (2,790 ft) to the west of Monks Mound. They are thought to have been constructed between 900 and 1100 CE, with each one being larger and having 12 more posts than its predecessor. The site was discovered during salvage archaeology undertaken by Dr. Warren Wittry in the early 1960s interstate highway construction boom. Although the majority of the site contained village house features, a number of unusually shaped, large post holes were also discovered. When the holes were plotted out, they formed several arcs of equally spaced holes. Detailed analytical work supported the hypothesis that the placement of these posts was by design, and Wittry hypothesized that the arcs could be whole circles. He began referring to the circles as "woodhenges", comparing the structures to England's well-known circles at Woodhenge and Stonehenge.

Additional excavations in the 1960s–1980s used predictions based on verified posthole locations and spacing to locate other postholes and confirm the existence of five separate timber circles in the general vicinity. The circles are now designated Woodhenges I through V in Roman numerals. In 1985, a reconstruction of Woodhenge III was built with the posts being placed into the original excavated post positions. The circle, which has 48 posts in the circle and a 49th central post, has been used to investigate archaeoastronomy at Cahokia. The Illinois Historic Preservation Division that oversees the Cahokia site hosts public sunrise observations at the vernal and autumnal equinoxes and the winter and summer solstices. Out of respect for Native American beliefs, these events do not feature ceremonies or rituals of any kind.”

>> Got this feeling it’s not just the Woodhenges that are connected to astronomy, but the entire layout of the site. Also, did anyone checked if these circular Woodhenges might match a medicine wheel? Just a thought there, I’m no expert, so I’m simply thinking out loud.

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>>16650964

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“Related mounds

Until the 19th century, a series of similar mounds was documented as existing in what is now the city of St. Louis, some 8 mi (13 km) to the west of Cahokia. Most of these mounds were leveled during the development of St. Louis, and much of their material was reused in construction projects.

The lone survivor of these mounds is Sugarloaf Mound. Located on the west bank of the Mississippi, it marked the initial border between St. Louis and the once autonomous city of Carondelet.

One of the largest Mississippian sites is Kincaid Mounds State Historic Site, located in Massac and Polk counties in southern Illinois. It is 140 mi (230 km) southeast of Cahokia, located in the floodplain of the Ohio River. With a total of 19 mounds at the complex, it is considered the fifth-largest Mississippian site in terms of the number of monuments. It is believed to have been a chiefdom, as an elite burial mound was among those found. The site is designated as a National Historic Landmark.”

>> Ever wondered why the mounds in St Louis were “leveled”?

“Cahokia Museum and Interpretive Center

The Cahokia Museum and Interpretive Center, which receives up to a million visitors a year, was designed by AAIC Inc. The building, which opened in 1989, received the Thomas H. Madigan Award, the St. Louis Construction News & Reviews Readers Choice Award, the Merit Award from the Metal Construction Association, and the Outstanding Achievement Award from the Brick Manufacturer Association.

Designations

Cahokia Mounds was first protected by the state of Illinois in 1923 when its legislature authorized purchase of a state park. Later designation as a state historic site offered additional protection, but the site came under significant threat from the federal highway building program in the 1950s. The highway program reduced the site's integrity; however, it increased funding for emergency archeological investigations. These investigations became intensive, and today continue. They have resulted in the present understanding of the national and international significance of the site. The site was designated a National Historic Landmark on July 19, 1964, and listed on the National Register of Historic Places on October 15, 1966.

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>> This is it for the Cahokia mounds, but I have one last comment to make about the global picture:

There is no doubt the Mississippi River played a very important role; as I’ve said before the Mississippi river played a double role of being a chronological spine and a trade spine. I’m not an expert, so I’m thinking out loud again: is there a High mountain, more than 4000 m high, in the vicinity or the path of this river? From the starting point, to the finishing point = it must all be checked out? After checking that: what about the North? Is it connected to Canada, to the Great Lakes?

What I’m trying to say is: this is how you should be thinking each time you find a similar site to Cahokia mounds? And just like I did with Kilimanjaro/Nile and the 3 mountains in Mexico with Teotihuacan, you might be able to retrace the survivors’ path and maybe find an Ark.

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>>16650991

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There is one additional very interesting point to mention about the Cahokia site. In Wisconsin, there is a lake called Rock Lake. There are “claims” there is a stone pyramid at the bottom of this specific lake. So let’s see what this is about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Lake_(Wisconsin)

“Rock Lake is a lake in Southeast Wisconsin, United States.

Geography

Rock Lake is in south central Wisconsin, at Lake Mills, Wisconsin in Jefferson County, Wisconsin approximately 20 miles (32 km) east of Madison. Rock Lake is a 1365 acre lake with a maximum depth of 60 feet (18.3 m).

The lake shape resembles a slight figure eight with several distinct areas. South of the figure eight portion of the lake lies Bean Lake State natural area which is a protected marsh. Part of the south western part of the figure eight is usually covered in tall aquatic vegetation that reach out of the water. In the north western portion of the figure eight there is a sand bar which often has boats anchored and is swimming accessible.

The Glacial Drumlin State Trail runs across an old rail road bridge across the southern portion of the lake. The trail separates the lake from the marsh area to the south of the lake.

Pyramid Claims

Rock Lake is perhaps most famous for its underwater rock piles frequently claimed to be pyramids built by the Mississippian culture at a time when water levels were much lower.

Mounds shaped like pyramids exist three miles (5 km) east of Rock Lake in Aztalan State Park on the Crawfish River in the town of Aztalan, Wisconsin. The park has National Landmark Status. The mounds are thought to have been built by the Mississippian culture and it is speculated that the site at Aztalan was a northern outpost of Cahokia, a much larger city in present-day Illinois not far from St. Louis, Missouri.

The waters of Rock Lake have been referred to as "Tyranena", (Tie-ra-nee-na). That name has persisted in the area and is used by businesses, road names, and a park that is on the lake.

[…]”

>> The Wikipedia page is always “dry” about interesting subjects, isn’t it anons? Well, we have good info here about the location and general shape of the lake. But they do have a good point when saying this might be a settlement or a post of whomever built the Cahokia site. This shouldn’t come as surprise for anons because the Mississippi River acted like a chronological and trade Spine. We have the same situation with the Euphrates and the Nile Rivers where we see many City-States built along the banks of both rivers. Of course the possible existence of a pyramid underwater are “claims” according the Main Stream History or the “official” narrative because (((they))) don’t want us = the public, to go looking into it all and make connection with the Cahokia site and the ThunderBirds. It’s the History that (((they))) don’t want us to know about and want to keep it hidden from us.

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>>16651018

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Let’s take a look at this: https://www.milwaukeemag.com/unsolved-mystery-ancient-underwater-pyramids-rock-lake/

“Unsolved Mystery: Are There Ancient Underwater Pyramids in Rock Lake?

Were these structures man-made?

BY MATT HRODEY

Rock Lake, at some 1,300 acres in western Jefferson County, is only about half the size of Pewaukee Lake. Its water is murky, a screen of silt and algae stirred up by the weather. Lake Mills, the town on its eastern shore, has had several businesses with the word “pyramid” in their names: Pyramid City Driving School, Pyramid Silo Services and the Pyramid Motel.

But you won’t see any pyramids above ground. You have to look under the water.

The Lake Mills Chamber of Commerce has promoted a legend that large stone structures lie beneath Rock Lake, dating back hundreds of years. The chamber claims Native Americans built pyramids in a valley, hoping to end a drought, and the gods responded by filling the valley with water.

The modern history of that legend began in the early 20th century, when a variety of divers and local fishermen reported seeing structures in the lake that looked man-made. Most famously, Wisconsin diving pioneer Max Nohl dived into the lake in 1937 and came across a stone structure that “looked like an upside down ice cream cone.”

That’s according to the Rock Lake Research Society, a group of divers, pilots and scientists that launched several expeditions between the late 1990s and early 2000s, resulting in a series of tantalizing photos but no conclusive evidence.

The society and other investigators have enjoyed little to no support from mainstream scientists. Former state archaeologist Bob Birmingham told the Wisconsin State Journal in 2015 that the tales were “a bunch of baloney.” The structures are just rock piles left by glaciers, Birmingham and others say.

In recent years, believers have used sophisticated sonar systems to produce maps of such large shapes as an 18-foot tall, tent-shaped stone pyramid with a 60-foot by 100-foot base. Whether any of the objects are man-made, they still don’t know.”

>> See how this article is written in a way to “mock” and ridicule whomever doesn’t fall in the narrative pushed forward by the paid experts? Whenever there is something that (((they))) don’t want us = the public, to ask questions about, to look into, (((they))) bring out the supposed experts and this is the result of their “expertise”.

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>>16651034

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More: https://www.ancientpages.com/2018/08/22/remarkable-man-made-underwater-structures-could-rewrite-history-of-wisconsin/

“Remarkable Man-Made Underwater Structures Could Rewrite History Of Wisconsin

August 22, 2018

Ellen Lloyd - AncientPages.com - All across the world there are many underwater structures that still remain unexplored. Beneath the waters of our oceans and lakes lie sunken buildings, roads, entire cities, pyramids, and artifacts belonging to long-lost and forgotten civilizations.

Why have these submerged ruins not been properly investigated?

There are remarkable, artificial underwater structures beneath the waters of Rock Lake, Wisconsin but unfortunately for many years, these prehistoric ruins have been ignored by researchers.”

>> Good observation by saying these specific ruins have been “ignored”; I will add this was done on purpose.

“Although the lake is at least 10,000 years-old, no scientist wanted to seriously consider the possibility that 3,500 years-old ruins could actually exist at the bottom of the lake. Yet, something is definitely resting there.”

>> I think the dates should be re-evaluated/revised, most probably to older.

“Over the years, due to climate changes, it was occasionally possible to catch a brief glimpse of the lake's bottom. The first known discovery occurred in the early 1900s when Claude and Lee Wilson announced that their oar struck the apex of a pyramid about six feet below the lake's surface.

Several attempts were made to locate the unknown structure, but they all failed. Newspapers ignored the discovery and the Milwaukee Herald even referred to it as mass hysteria.”

>> The good old MSM doing a great job once more to cover up the truth. The existence of these underwater structures, if made public = known by the general public, would blow a huge hole into the carefully woven historical narrative (((they))) been spoon feeding us for so long. It would have raised too many questions (((they))) don’t want to answer and it would have attracted too many eyes (((they))) don’t want. So to hush things up, as usual, (((they))) activated (((their))) media assets; which by the way, buys (((them))) also time, to quietly and discreetly search and explore whatever is down at the bottom of the lake. We’ve seen (((them))) do this same exact thing many times already in other sites worldwide, in this thread – it’s a déjà vu.

“About 35 years later, a couple of divers detected other underwater structures beneath the surface of Rock Lake. Charles E. Brown, director of the Wisconsin Historical Museum, and Earnst F. Bean, a geology professor became interested in this discovery.”

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>>16651043

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“The divers were asked to investigate the underwater ruins, but their results could not offer anything that would shed more light on the mysterious submerged structures.

People who participated in the investigation of Rock Lake were ridiculed.

It was said they were chasing a fantasy and the entire project was a waste of tax money.

One who did not give up his search was Alex Max Gene Nohl, an engineer and diver from Massachusetts.

In 1937, while diving he successfully located a triangular-shaped structure. It was a pyramid! His discovery was confirmed some years later when two pilots reported observing a huge triangular-shaped object beneath the surface of Rock Lake.”

>> See how the experts and the media treat such cases = they go after the messenger, not the message. I’ve talked about this many times before and this is how (((they))) twist things around and push (((their))) narrative forward. And did you notice how murky the water is? This is the same type of situation the divers face when trying to find the sunken palace of Cleopatra; I’ve already mentioned it before.

“The public was now eager to learn more about this fascinating discovery, but there was one problem. No archaeologist showed any interest or willingness to investigate Wisconsin's underwater pyramid.”

>> I volunteer, for free, but I need a team, mostly divers. Anons, if Potus and the Alliance are going to bring out the true History of mankind, then you can count on them to bring up this to light. I know for now theirs hands are full and they have loads to tackle, mostly more dangerous issues to face off with. This can wait, but as I just said, you can count on them to bring the truth about this issue out, one day, in the near future; maybe a couple of years down the road when things might have calmed down a bit with the economy and politics.

“Scientists were confronted with what could be the most significant and controversial North American archaeological discovery of the twentieth century and yet no, archaeologist was interested in the subject!”

>> Underwater archaeology is the new frontier for us. This type of site needs big funds because it’s underwater and it needs special treatment/ equipment’s. It’s better if this is done under State/Potus’ supervision (= big scale and not local small scale). This is a great cultural and historical treasure of the States and the Native Americans alike. Great care should be given to such a site, with the establishment of a local museum to host the possible artifacts which might be excavated. I guess it all depends what is there, under the water.

“For many years, scientists chose not to write or discuss the Rock Lake pyramid. Finally, in 1962, "The Wisconsin Archaeologist" printed an article conveying the opinion of the academic world. Readers were informed that it was highly unlikely a man-made pyramid could actually be found at the bottom of Rock Lake. Experts estimated the lake to be at least 10,000 years-old and that fact alone clearly spoke against the underwater pyramid.”

>> This is why I’ve said the dates should be revised. What are the odds these “scientists” kept quiet on purpose?

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>>16651069

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“It was obvious archaeologists rejected the theory because this kind of this discovery would force scientists to rewrite the history of Wisconsin.”

>> LoL! I think it goes deeper than just the history of Wisconsin = it’s about the History of mankind and the ThunderBirds = the story of Atlantis.

“About five years later, diver Jack Kennedy found the underwater pyramid and brought to the surface several stone artifacts. In his excitement, he, unfortunately, forgot to mark the location of the pyramid and was unable to find it again. Lon Merrick, diver director at the Milwaukee Museum quickly used this opportunity to trivialize the Rock Lake case. He claimed that the so-called underwater pyramid was nothing else than large pieces of ice.”

>> Whom does Lon Merrick work for? Really work for?

“In 1970, "Skin Divers", a professional magazine dedicated to diving published a more objective article, giving the underwater pyramid some credibility. The Skin Divers informed its readers it was difficult to believe in the existence of the Rock Lake's underwater pyramid, mainly because of the structure's age.

If this structure was truly man-made, then it must be very old. Who could have built it? Logically it should not exist, but history is hardly ever logical. It would seem that the underwater pyramid posed a real challenge to all logically thinking American historians.”

>> It is truly much older than what it is admitted. It was built by the Flood survivors and the ThunderBirds. There is a reason why the Bloodlines are so secretive and interested in St Louis, the Cahokia mounds, the Piasa monster and the copper plates. This is one heck of a big “cover up” (((they))) did there.

“About 13 years later, Robert Boyd, a diving instructor arranged a somewhat larger underwater expedition together with his friend, Robert Bass. They were able to confirm the existence of stone structures resting at the bottom of the lake.”

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>>16651079

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“In 1987, Frank Joseph, an American author became interested in the underwater pyramid. Together with other scientists, he completed a side-scan sonar study of the lake floor. The scientists managed to observe a number of unusual-shaped structures along a submerged beach. Side-scan sonar reading clearly indicated several artificial structures beneath the surface of Rock Lake.

According to Frank Joseph, beneath the waters of Rock Lake lie at least ten structures! Two of them have been mapped and photographed by skin divers and sonar. One of these structures which has been named the Limnatis Pyramid has a base width of 60 feet, a length of about 100 feet, and a height of 18 feet. It is a truncated pyramid.

After ending a series of descents, Frank Joseph was able to confirm the existence of Rock Lake's man-made underwater structure.

"We definitely found two structures about in the middle of the lake in 55 feet of water. I would have been satisfied with only one, but finding two is terrific," Joseph said.

"I'd say the first one is about eight feet high, 12 to 15 feet wide, and more than 100 feet long. The second is 10 to 20 feet south of the first and about the same width, with a steeper slant to the sides, and is shorter in length. They look to be the same height and exactly north and south on a compass alignment," Joseph's diving companion, John Shulak who has been exploring Rock Lake for several years added.

One is exactly like 'the loaf-of-bread pyramid' Kennedy described," said Shulak, referring to a 1970 account in Skin Diver magazine of a 1967 scuba dive by John Kennedy, a botanist from Lombard, Ill. "The area of rocks looks like a tent-shaped pyramid, collapsed."

Careful planning and ideal conditions are credited with the success of the expedition and the documentation.

"Visibility was the best ever, maybe because there was little runoff into the lake during last year's dry summer. I could see at least 10 to 15 feet," Shulak said. Frank Joseph theorizes that the lake, in much earlier, drier times, could have been a "city of the dead."

The key to understanding such sites is the geographic location connected to the river. It’s more than clear this site along with the one of the Cahokia mounds civilization, are not just connected but also are most probably built by Flood survivors or their direct descendants (= first generation). From what little information there is about these sites, they don’t seem to have megalithic blocks in them, for now anyway, until a new discovery is made. The construction technique of the structures should be highly significant and I won’t be surprised one bit to see the clamps and other masonry work we’ve seen the survivors of the Flood use in other parts of the world. I’m also in the mindset this site is connected to the ThunderBirds, as in we will most probably find traces and even possibly artifacts connected/in relation with them.

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>>16651094

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The reaction of the Bloodlines, the supposed experts and the media about the whole of the sites along the Mississippi river is highly notable and it’s indicating (((they))) don’t want us looking into this and discovering what’s in there. I won’t be surprised at all to find out there are other sites along the river, still undiscovered.

The real question is where did the survivors come from? By that, I mean where is the Ark carrying them located? The Appalachian mountain chain’s height is too low. We should be looking for a point which is 4000 m + above sea level, from which the River can be easily accessible by foot, for the survivors to reach.

This leaves me with the Rocky mountain range. Please take a look at this Wikipedia page listing the peaks and their height: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountain_peaks_of_the_Rocky_Mountains

There are 3 possible candidate states where the Ark could be located:

1 – The highest possibility is the state of Colorado where we have a multitude of peaks all taller than 4000 m. Because of the high number of peak s, it’s going to be hard to locate the Ark just by visually searching for it. Finding/locating ancient human settlement/sites or even petroglyphs in the area can be a hint/clue there is an Ark in the vicinity, but this needs verification and the information should be handled with care, with no rush. From Colorado heights, the survivors could have navigated down the Arkansas river all the way to the Mississippi river (possibility). Of course anons shouldn’t forget that the water level must have been different from what it is now, because the flood waters SLOWLY receded = it took time for it to be what it is now = it happened gradually. I don’t know if there are human traces or sites on the path of the Arkansas river leading towards the Mississippi river since I’m unfamiliar with the Native American history. Maybe someone reading is knowledgeable and can help out by indicating sites with petroglyphs or other “clues” along the path of the river which might be helpful.

2 – The second possibility is the state of Wyoming, where we have a few peaks that fit with the altitude (like BigHorn mountains = Cloud peak; and Wind River Range – Gannett peak). We even have “human traces” like the Medicine Wheel. If I understand the geography well, there are rivers flowing from Wyoming state towards the state of Montana and from there on, you take the Missouri river to reach the Mississippi river. Bighorn is a possible candidate.

3 – The last possibility is the state of Montana with the Missouri river flowing to reach the Mississippi river. There are a few peaks in the state of Montana which could fit for the place the Ark landed in.

If there is an anon acknowledgeable reading and can help out identify the route/ path the survivors took it could help to trace it all back to the peak where the Ark might be.

It can be done by someone whom knows the terrain well and someone whom knows about the human “traces” left behind (petroglyphs for example) along this path. Since I’m unfamiliar with it, I cannot do it alone; my knowledge is limited to what I can find on the net and I know that’s very narrow. It’s different and much better if it’s done with the help of a local.

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I want to take a look at the Aztalan site as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztalan_State_Park

“Aztalan State Park is a Wisconsin state park in the Town of Aztalan, Jefferson County. Established in 1952, it was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1964 and added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1966. The park covers 172 acres (70 ha) along the Crawfish River.”

>> Look at the numbers anons.

“Aztalan is the site of an ancient Mississippian culture settlement that flourished during the 10th to 13th centuries. The indigenous people constructed massive earthwork mounds for religious and political purposes. They were part of a widespread culture with important settlements throughout the Mississippi River valley and its tributaries. Their trading network extended from the Great Lakes to the Gulf Coast, and into the Southeast of the present-day United States.

Pre-history (900-1300)

Aztalan was first settled around 900 CE by a Native American culture known as the Middle Mississippian Tradition. The chief center of a Middle Mississippian settlement is at Cahokia, in present-day Illinois, a city that at its peak had 20,000–30,000 people. This was not surpassed by Europeans in North America until after 1800. These settlements are characterized by the construction of earthwork mounds, stockades, and houses, by decorated Mississippian culture pottery, and agricultural practices. There are also elements of the Woodland culture found there.

The residents of Aztalan had long-distance trading relationships with other settlements, linked by their use of the rivers for transportation. For example, items found at the settlement include copper from Michigan's Upper Peninsula, shells from the coast of the Gulf of Mexico, and stone such as Mill Creek chert from other areas of the Midwest.

Sometime between 1200 and 1300 CE, the Aztalan settlement was abandoned. Archeologists and historians surmise they may have outgrown environmental resources, or encountered more warfare from other cultures, but do not know for sure. The Little Ice Age occurred soon after 1300 and may have contributed to farming difficulties, putting too much stress on the local chiefdoms.”

>> There are many possibilities why this site was abandoned; just like it’s the case with the Cahokia site. What is notable is that both sites seem to have abandoned around the same time. So this opens the possibility of them being abandoned because of the same thing = same cause.

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>>16651126

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“Life in Aztalan

Most of the residents lived in circular or rectangular houses which they built between the river and the eastern secondary wall. The placement of the structures suggests that the layout was planned. The dwellings were built around a central ceremonial plaza likely used for rituals and public gatherings, as has been found at similar locations. Posts for the house frames were placed either in individual holes, or in a trench dug slightly narrower than the posts. The walls were completed with wattle and daub, a plaster mixture of grass and clay. The roof was covered with bark or thatch. The doorway usually faced south to keep out the winter's north winds. Inside, a single family slept on pole-frame beds, covered with tamarack boughs, deer skins, and furs. Sometimes a fire was kept in the middle of the house and a hole in the roof let out the smoke. Storage pits dug in the earthen floor of the house held foods such as corn, nuts, and seeds in woven bags. Perishable foods such as meat were most likely stored outside prior to cooking. Refuse pits for garbage and community storage pits were located outside.”

>> If the layout was thought of, then there might be a correlation with astronomy.

“The site was well chosen to provide a variety of food sources, and other resources. The staple of the diet was cultivated corn (maize), and other plants were also gathered as food, such as acorns, hickory nuts, and berries. Tobacco was grown at this time for sacred rituals, as tobacco seeds have been found at this site. The main source of meat was deer, especially in the winter. The people also caught and ate beaver, elk, fox, muskrats, and raccoons. They hunted birds and turtles, collected mussels, and caught fish in the Crawfish River directly next to the site. To help with fishing, the people set up rock barriers called fish weirs at key points, one of which is visible when the river is low. They caught catfish, bass, suckers, buffalo fish, pike, drum fish, and gar. They disposed of the thousands of shells from consumed mussels in middens. These have layers of shells several feet thick.

The people living here gathered food and resources for tools and building. Other materials were obtained through trade. Trees nearby provided wood for posts for house walls and stockades, bows and arrow shafts, and firewood. Smaller tree branches and grass were used for bedding and roofs. Shells were used to make jewelry, beads, spoons, and digging tools. The people dug river clay to use in fashioning fired pottery. Traded items, used for ornamental or ceremonial purposes, were an attribute of status because of their rarity.

Physical features

The most obvious features of Aztalan are its pyramid-shaped, flat-topped platform mounds and the stockades, believed to have served both ceremonial and defensive functions.

Mounds

Three platform mounds remain on the site. The largest is the one in the southwest corner of the stockade; one almost as large is located in the northwest corner. The smallest of the three is along the east side of the settlement, near the Crawfish River (labeled "West Branch of Rock River" on the plates). The hill in the southeast corner is a natural gravel knoll, not built by the inhabitants.”

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>>16651132

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“The largest mound was built in three stages, with a set of steps leading to the top, where a structure was built over the entire flat top. The mound was covered with a clay cap, probably to enhance its appearance. Corn was stored in pits inside the structure. Scholars have several theories about why the corn was kept there, and the overall purpose of the structure. It may have been the storage facility for the entire village, or storage for food just for the top village officials; it may have been used for ceremonies and rituals; or it could have been a house for the village officials. This topmost structure was rebuilt each time a larger stage of the mound was built on top of the old.”

>> It’s highly possible that each stage was built by a generation; not all built in one go.

“The northwestern mound, used for formal burial, was also built in three stages. A special structure, approximately 4 metres (13 ft) by 2 metres (6.6 ft), with its long axis towards the northeast–southwest, was built on the west side of the mound. Its doorway was in its southwest corner, and the structure was covered with a mixture of clay, willow branches, and grass. The floor was covered with a mat of what may have been cattails. The bodies of ten people were placed side by side on this, with their heads toward the doorway. The bones of another person were bundled together with cord and placed near them. Once this construction was complete, and the bodies were inside, the building was burned.

The eastern mound had a large open-walled structure, about 12 metres (39 ft) by 27 metres (89 ft), built on top of it, with firepits lined with white sand inside. The function of this mound and structure remain unclear.

Additionally, to the northwest of the stockaded area, a row of round mounds extends northward. When archaeologists excavated in these mounds during the 1920s, they did not find the burial sites they had expected. Instead, each mound had a large post set in a pit in its center, surrounded by gravel and soil, with the pit capped with clay and gravel to hold the post steady. These mounds have been termed "marker mounds" because they may have been used to mark the site for travelers, but this is not certain. They may also have been used for announcements, message relays, or for calculations of astronomical phenomena, as has been found at other Mississippian sites, such as Cahokia.

Stockade

The settlement was surrounded on the north, west, and south sides by a palisade, a wall of logs set vertically into the ground. Narrow holes were dug into the ground, then the posts were lifted into position and set into the holes. The stockade was finished by people weaving flexible willow branches through the posts, and plastering the whole with a mixture of clay and grass to fill in the gaps, a technique similar to wattle and daub.

At some point, a smaller stockade was built within the outer one to delimit the dwelling areas. Archeologists have not been able to determine whether both stockades existed simultaneously, for a layered defense, or one was built after the other fell into disuse.

In 1850, Increase A. Lapham, an author, scientist, and naturalist, surveyed the site on behalf of the Smithsonian Institution, which was surveying ancient mounds. He described the outer stockade as being "631 feet (192 m) long at the north end, 1,149 feet (350 m) long on the west side and 700 feet (210 m) on the south side; making a total length of wall of 2,750 feet (840 m). The ridge or wall is about 22 feet (6.7 m), and from 1 foot (0.30 m) to 5 feet (1.5 m)) in height". It had at least 33 square bastions at regular intervals along its length, similar in form and placement to some European fortifications, in order to allow defensive warriors to cover that area by shooting arrows. In addition, others were built along the secondary walls. Rather than having a gate to protect the entrance, the builders constructed the entrance so that it was camouflaged from direct view and blended in with the wall on either side.”

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>>16651138

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“During the time Aztalan was inhabited, two sets of outer stockades were built. The posts of the first one eventually rotted, and the second one burned and was never rebuilt. It is not clear whether the purpose of the stockade was to keep out invaders, or if the occupants built it for another reason.”

>> The reasons can be the same as the one I talked about in the Cahokia site. The composition/style of the site is the same as the one in Cahokia, which makes the possibility high they were both built by the same people = same clan/tribe.

“Modern discovery (1835-1919)

A young man named Timothy Johnson discovered the ruins of the ancient settlement in December 1835. In January 1836, N. F. Hyer conducted the first rough survey of the site, and published his discovery in the Milwaukie Advertiser of January 1837.

According to Lapham:

The name Aztalan was given to this place by Mr. Hyer, because, according to Humboldt, the Aztecs, or ancient inhabitants of Mexico, had a tradition that their ancestors came from a country at the north, which they called Aztalan; and the possibility that these may have been remains of their occupancy, suggested the idea of restoring the name. It is made up of two Mexican words, atl, water, and an, near; and the country was probably so named from its proximity to large bodies of water. Hence the natural inference that the country about these great lakes was the ancient residence of the Aztecs.”

>> So someone made an assumption this site might be the place of origins of the Aztecs and name it like that: Aztalan; without any tangible, physical proof supporting this.

“Hyer wrote, "We are determined to preserve these ruins from being ruined." However, in 1838, President Martin Van Buren refused a request by Massachusetts statesman Edward Everett to withdraw the site from public sale, and it was sold for $22. In the following years, the surface was plowed, the mounds were leveled for easier farming, pottery shards and "Aztalan brick" were hauled away by the wagonload to fill in potholes in township roads, and souvenir hunters took numerous artifacts.

In 1850, Lapham urged the preservation of the stockade. At the time, the stockade was still standing, though not in the condition it had once been.”

>> What a shame. If we dig into this, I’m sure you are going to find out this is done on purpose and the Bloodlines are behind it. (((They))) wanted and orchestrated the destruction of this site. This is big proof this site was a ThunderBird’s site. Why? = because (((they))) made sure it’s destroyed and looted.

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>>16651149

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“State park foundation and reconstruction (1919-present)

In 1919, archeological excavations began at Aztalan under the direction of Dr. S. A. Barrett. In 1920, the Landmarks Committee of the State Historical Society of Wisconsin, under Publius V. Lawson, started a new effort to save what remained of Aztalan, supported by the Friends of Our Native Landscape and the Wisconsin Archeological Society. They made their first purchase of some of the land in 1921, three acres (12,000 m2) west of the stockade and containing eight conical mounds, and presented it to the Wisconsin Archeological Society.

Work for preservation continued. In 1936, the state's archeological and historical societies petitioned the federal government for funds to reconstruct the stockade, without success, although during the Great Depression the US funded archeological work and preservation at numerous ancient sites around the country. In 1941, the newly founded Lake Mills-Aztalan Historical Society began an energetic campaign to preserve the stockade area.

In 1945, the Wisconsin State Assembly passed a bill directing the State Planning Board to study the possibility of establishing a state park at Aztalan. In 1947, the Wisconsin State Legislature passed a resolution requesting the State Conservation Commission to purchase Aztalan. 120 acres (490,000 m2) were purchased to this end in 1948, and the Wisconsin Archeological Society and the Lake Mills-Aztalan Historical Society donated their holdings. Aztalan opened to the public in 1952 as Aztalan State Park.

Aztalan was designated a registered National Historic Landmark in 1964 and added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1966. In 1968, the state reconstructed portions of the stockade wall by placing new posts in the original holes. A section of this was also covered with the wattle and daub, but this has since worn away or been removed.”

>> I don’t know what the laws are in the States concerning archaeology. First of all, this site should be named correctly because the wrong name will lead to wrong research. Give it its original name back. Respect the origins. The American people and the government, either local, state level or federal should do their outmost best to preserve these sites, mostly the ThunderBird related sites. You have no idea how important the places connected with the ThunderBirds are. There is a possibility the Bloodlines have the “information” about this site and if there were any “notable” artifacts recovered, (((they))) might have them as well since we know (((they))) are collectors. Let’s hope everything wasn’t truly destroyed, but (((their))) greed lead (((them)))) to keep some of the artifacts in secret.

This site is connected to Cahokia mounds, St Louis, Rock Lake. I’m sure we will find other sites as well if you look for them all along the river. All of these places are connected because they were built by ONE group of people which seem to be a ThunderBird tribe. Sure, some of the sites might have been taken over in later generation by the evil clan, but this doesn’t belittle the importance of the sites built by the ThunderBirds. The discovery of the other sites, studying them and finding what links them together, will change and re-write the entire history of the States. There is also a possibility we might retrace the Ark which landed in the States, if we can rewind the itinerary of the survivors – that is if the Bloodlines didn’t find it first.

If anyone reading is interested about this specific digging tunnel or has knowledge and wants to help/share, please do.I’m going to stop here about this for now.

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>>16651154

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Since I’m not familiar with the myths, legends, stories of the Native Americans, I read general mythology encyclopedias to get acquainted with it all. There are MANY myths from the Many tribes/cultures/Nations of the Native Americans and sometimes each myth has a multitude of variants or should I say versions to it. It’s not easy to regroup them and it takes time to figure out which is the core story behind the many versions. I won’t go there since it’s too much time consuming and it’s way out of my reach = not my domain of expertise. Instead, I’m going to RANDOMLY put some of the myths which caught my attention. As I just said, there is no specific order, or preference to the myths I’m going to show you.

The first myth/deity that caught my attention was Tsohanoai: www.windows2universe.org/mythology/tsohanoai_sun.html

“For the Navajo Indians of North America, Tsohanoai is the Sun god. Everyday, he crosses the sky, carrying the Sun on his back. At night, the Sun rests by hanging on a peg in his house.

Tsohanoai's two children Nayenezgani (Killer of Enemies) and Tobadzistsini (Child of Water) were separated from their father and lived with their mother in the far West. Once they were older, they tried to find their father, hoping he could help them fight the evil spirits tormenting mankind. They met Spider Woman, who gave them two feathers to keep them safe on their journey. Finally, they found Tsohanoai's house, and he gave them magic arrows to fight off the evil monsters, Anaye.”

>> Since it’s short, I gathered many sources to get bits of information from here and there. So, I’m going to put the texts first and then give my take.

www.godchecker.com/navajo-mythology/TSOHANOAI/

“TSOHANOAI

God who carries the sun on his back

He crosses the sky every day lugging the sun on his back. When he gets home, he hangs it on a peg where it remains until it’s time for the next morning’s commute.

He was the absent father of twin War Gods Nayenezgani and Tobadzistsini, to whom he eventually gave magic arrows to defeat the demons.”

https://ehillerman.unm.edu/node/1421#sthash.DDEgVEbs.dpbs

“Bearer of the Sun

In Navajo mythology there is a difference between the sun in the sky and the Bearer of the Sun, also known as Tsohanoai in navajo. The Bearer of the Sun is the holy being who carries the sun across the sky every day. He is symbolically represented as a blue disk with mouth eyes, and, occassionally, horns. Sometimes, however, he is represented in sand paintings as a person. He has an acknowledged wife, Changing Woman (Estsanatlehi), but much like Zeus in Greek mythology, Bearer of the Sun has relations with many other women, and as a result has many illegitimate children. The illegitimate children are only acknowledged as his own when they have completed a difficult task. In one such instance, Changing Woman’s children, the Hero Twins, are challenged to complete a series of tasks when they confront Bearer of the Sun at his house.”

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>>16651158

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>>There is precious information here; which I’m going to view from the view point of Sebetti rulers. The details match despite the names being different. This is why I’m using this method. I would like to remind the readers that this is what the later generation transmitted; as in there might be gaps and of course there is mutation and misunderstandings. But as I just said, the details match.

Tsohanoai is the King of kings, the Great Sun. He seemed to be living somewhere up in the sky; reminding me of the same thing being said about Ra from Ancient Egypt. It’s very clear that He is not the solar ball of fire. Here, in the third source, they have clearly distinguished Him from the ball of fire sun. He is called the Sun because He SHINES = emits light; not just any Light but Spiritual Light. So when it is said that He is the Bearer of the Sun, it means He carries the Spiritual Holy Light within Him.

In the third source I’ve put, they also mentioned that he is sometimes represented with horns. The question is: which horns are they talking about? I’m asking this because we have 3 different horned clans, so trying to find out which kind of horns he was represented with changes greatly the interpretation. Here, it’s vague, I’m unable to determine which it is.

The Changing Woman mentioned also in the third source is certainly Neith. But it’s incorrect that the Great King was a cheater and a womanizer. This is a mutation in the story. Do you remember how I keep on telling that the lesser sun was confused by later generation as the Great Sun in the Middle East? Well, here you go, you have it here as well. Here again, the younger generations are unable to distinguish between the Greater Sun and the lesser sun. How I am so sure there is a confusing and misunderstanding from the younger generation?

Because I am certain about the personality of the King of kings and what He stands for; in other words anons, He is from the Light and the Light doesn’t do such things. Do you understand me? The Light doesn’t have such dirty or malicious thoughts. And the One whom has the strongest Light also has the strongest MORAL CODE of conduct ever. Just take a look at the Saints, mostly Saint Charbel. The ones with strong Light have a very strict moral code, they don’t waver nor do they get tempted. It’s in the same logic that our Heavenly Father and the Light would never ask for the sacrifice of children, even if it’s as a test. This is not what the Light is. The ones with the Light don’t have such feelings nor such thoughts; mostly not such dirty thoughts. The Great King doesn’t need to TEST you because He is in you, He can read your heart and your thoughts just like professor Xavier from X-men does. So He already knows, but He also gives you the freedom to choose between right and wrong. He doesn’t take your free will and He doesn’t force you down.

This is the way of the Evil One: to have all kinds of dirty thoughts, including having a harem which will end up in his orgies. This also includes forcing himself on you and stripping your choices away from you.

When you understand this core subject, then you will quickly be able to distinguish whom is whom and pinpoint where mutation occurred.

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>>16651162

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Then, comes even more interesting details. Tsohanoai had 2 children, twins.

The first is called Nayenezgani; as in Killer of Enemies. This fits perfectly with the Evil One. I see him like some type of a warrior like Sebetti ruler whom used to have the mission to protect humans, but he turned on them. We’ve talked about this before. So saying that he is the Killer of Enemies; that is so true, remember how Seth helped Ra defeat Apep at first, before he turned evil.

The second is called Tobadzistsini; as in Child of Water. This first perfectly with the Evil Lady. We have seen it before that she is somehow connected to water; I’ve been suspecting it before, but I’ve been unable to pinpoint it and fully understand how it’s all connected yet. And when you think about it deep, water fits good as her elements since her twin had the element of fire = in other words, they had opposite complementary elements. The Evil’s One had the element of fire while the Evil Lady’s element was water. This might explain why she is represented as a Fish; but I’m more convinced by the mutation of her clothing/corset because we found the mutation stages to it and how it changed from the bird like wings draping her to the corset worn by Atargatis in Ephesus.

The “twins” didn’t live with their father. We’ve also already seen this before and how the King of kings lived ABOVE and FAR AWAY from others.

Next, it’s said that the twins went looking for their father. This is not to be taken word to word; as in they didn’t lose their father. We already know there was a high council of the Sebetti ruler which had meetings and we already know from the many myths of Inanna that she had an audience or should I say met Anu when she requested it. Because of this, it doesn’t mean the twins lost their father and couldn’t see him. Here, it’s got another meaning. I’m leaning to think that here, it means that they got “illegally” or should I say sneaked into the house of the Great King = sneak into his place of residence to try to find him. Which brings me to that night where there was a reception of some sort and everyone was invited, at some point, the Evil One sneaked in, in full armor, and killed the King of kings.

They meet Spider Woman = as in Neith, whom gives them feathers. I guess this is to say that they flew to the house of Tsohanoai. This can be interpreted as in: they stole the flying machinery to go to the Royal Palace. See the Spider is the symbol of the Oracle aspect of Neith. Since Neith was the head of the Lamassu Clan = winged bull, it means they had feathers as in they could fly. I always believed that the Lamassu Clan warriors were some type of pilots of flying machinery. So if I combine all of these elements together, it sounds like the Evil Couple took (either in a good way as in borrowed; or in a bad way as in theft) some flying machinery from the Lamassu clan to reach the Royal Palace where the King of kings resided. There is also the possibility that they might have sneaked inside one of the flying machines and hid in it till it reached the Palace; like one of the scenes we see out of Hollywood.

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>>16651166

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The last detail fits despite it having a mutation: it’s about the King of kings giving them arrows. Arrows were the weapon of the Antelope Clan/ also used by the Wolf Clan as seen and explained in the Bronze Plaque of the Hells (starting page 960). And we also know from Greek mythology that the “twins” = Apollo and Artemis were archers. So this detail fits. What doesn’t work well is that Anu GAVE them these weapons. I’m not sure how I should interpret this since I believe this is where the mutation occurred. It could mean they stole something from the house of the King of kings, like a powerful weapon – an idea which we also saw before in this thread. But in the same time, we also know that it was the King of kings which assigned to each Sebetti ruler a kingdom = a territory to rule. So does this mean the King of kings also gave them the heraldic animal symbols, the armors and the weapons each Sebetti Clan used? It’s very possible, isn’t it? Once again, it’s not very clear here what I really means.

It’s amazing how, when you know the core story, you can find it projected, mirrored in various myths and legends from all over the globe. And it actually fits, despite the mutations and the misunderstandings of the younger generations.

That’s it for the myth of Tsohanoai.

Let’s take a look next to Awonawilona: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awonawilona

“In the myths of the Pueblo Zuni people of New Mexico, Awonawilona is known as the "Supreme life-giving power" and the creator of all with a name translating to "All Container".The deity's gender is not specified in myth and referred to as either he or she. In the beginning, Awonawilona created and became all configurations of water in the world; as a result fog, clouds, large bodies of water, and air were formed. In other versions, fog and steam were already existent before Awonawilona. The new combination of light, clouds, and air allowed for vegetation and made Awonawilona the "essence" of life as s/he created the universe. The universe was made up of 9 layers: the first layer was the earth and the other 8 were homes for various animals, birds, and trees.

Eventually Awonawilona chose to embody the sun and created the deity the Sun-father, which lead to the formation of several other gods such as Awitelin Tsita (The Four-Fold Containing Mother Earth), and Apoyan Tachu (All Covering Father-sky), from green scum formed over the waters. As the myth unfolds, the deities created by Awonawilona leads to the creation of humans and all living creatures.”

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>>16651167

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“Like all mythologies, there are many different versions of the Zuni creation story. In one version, the creature Poshaiyankya escapes from the four-fold womb of Awitelin Tsita and convinces the Sun father, Awonawilona, to send the Ahayuta, the twin gods of war, to bring the rest of womb dwellers into the light. Other versions of the myth say that Awonawilona sent the twin gods of war to bring forth people that would give him offerings and prayers.”

>> As I’ve said before, I’m not an expert in Native American myths and legends. I’m going to say how I see this from the Sebetti perspective.

Awonawilona is our Heavenly Father. It is kinda true that everything created is from water in the Universe. So He created Father Sun whom is none other than the King of kings and the other Sebetti rulers. The twin gods of war are none other than the Evil Couple. Sure the details may vary from one version to another, but I think those whom will research this will find the core = main points easy.

When taking a look at Awonawilona, I also found this nice short list: https://zunireligion.weebly.com/godsreligious-figures.html

“Awonawilona. The Zuni name for the Creator. Awonawilona is a divine spirit who does not take the shape of a human, he is considered to embody both genders, and is not personified in Zuni folklore.”

>> He fits perfectly well with our Heavenly Father.

“Poshaiyankya. The first man, who first brought the Zuni people onto the earth.

Ahaiyuta and Matsailema. (Morning Light and Evening Star, also called the Ahayuta Brothers.) Twin heroes sent by Awonawilona to help Poshaiyankya and the first humans.”

>> The twins are obviously the Serpent and Antelope Sebetti rulers = the twins, before they turned evil.

“Yanauluha. Yanauluha is the culture hero of the Zuni tribe. Unlike culture heroes in some tribes, Yanauluha is not a trickster figure but rather a dignified hero who teaches the Zunis the arts of medicine and agriculture.”

>> Sounds like someone from the Wolf Clan.

“Uhepono. The chief of the Zuni underworld, a fearsome giant with fur and huge round eyes.”

>> This one is tricky. We don’t have much about him, apart those few detail. He could be a warrior from any of the clans.

“Awitelin Tsita. Mother Earth.

Apoyan Tachu. Father Sky.”

>> It’s obvious here, it’s the King of kings and the Queen of queens.

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>>16651169

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“Kolowisi. The horned water serpent of Zuni legend. He is a generally a nice spirit, not a monster.”

>> Could be the Serpent Sebetti ruler before he turned evil. Or the ones whom perpetuated these legends were members of the Horned Serpent Clan speaking of the Evil One in a good way.

“Atahsaia. A terrible man-eating ogre.”

Suuke. These are Zuni monsters said to live in caves and carry off children in their baskets.

>> It’s obvious these 2 are from the Horned Serpent Clan = the pedovores.

“Kachinas. These are supernatural Pueblo nature spirits, the Zuni have elaborate kachina ceremonies where male dancers wear sacred costumes and become living spirits of certain kachinas.

Pautiwa. This is the most important of the Pueblo kachina spirits, a sun deity who is the ruler of all the other kachinas.

Ololowishkya. a fertility spirit associated with rain dances and corn ceremonies, usually appearing as a humpbacked man.”

>> The second one mentioned here is none other than the King of kings. I have no idea whom the last one could be. His association with corn and rain remind me of Viracocha and Bocchica, but I’m not sure if it’s him or not.

The Last thing that caught my attention from the Zuni mythology is Yanauluha: www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803125246188

“The great medicine-man of Zuni mythology. After the first men had emerged from the wombs of the earth mother, they realized how unusual their own appearance was. Having adapted to life underground, they were strange creatures, black and scaly, with short tails, owl's eyes, huge ears, and webbed feet. In the uncertainty of that day they turned to the wisdom of Yanauluha, who had brought a vessel of water from the primeval ocean, seeds of plants, and a staff which had power to give life. He taught the Pueblo Zuni the arts of civilization: agriculture, husbandry, and the regulation of social life. His potent medicine staff, painted in bright colours and decorated with feathers, shells, and stones, represents the foundation of Zuni religion; it is the emblem of the first chief priest.”

>> Loads of fascinating information here. From what is written here, it seems Yanaulula was someone from the Wolf Clan since he is mostly associated with medicine. But he could also be a member from the other Light Sebetti Clans. I see him mostly as a Wolf Sebetti Clan member.

Just read how humans used to look like and mostly how humans came out = emerged from the “wombs of the earth mother”. I don’t know what to say about this. It’s fascinating. Is this about the Arks whom fossilized and turned into cave like structures? Did early men hide in caves as it was the case with the Ayar brother from the Inca legends? Is this Hollow Earth mentioned here? My mind is going in all directions. For those interested in such subjects, this is a good place to start investigating and digging.

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Next I want to take to some Native American Nations/cultures; a bit about them and a bit about their myths, including some of their deities. Let’s take a look at the Iroquois: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois

“The Iroquois (/ˈɪrəkwɔɪ/ or /ˈɪrəkwɑː/) or Haudenosaunee (/ˌhoʊdinoʊˈʒoʊniː/; "People of the Longhouse") are an Iroquoian indigenous confederacy in northeast North America. They were known during the colonial years to the French as the Iroquois League, and later as the Iroquois Confederacy. The English called them the Five Nations, comprising the Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Seneca (listed geographically from east to west). After 1722, the Iroquoian-speaking Tuscarora people from the southeast were accepted into the confederacy, which became known as the Six Nations.

The founders of the Iroquois League are traditionally held to be Deganawidah the Great Peacemaker, Hiawatha, and Jigonsaseh the Mother of Nations. For nearly 200 years, the Iroquois were a powerful factor in North American colonial policy. At its peak around 1700, Iroquois power extended from what is today New York State, north into present-day Canada, west along the Great Lakes and south on both sides of the Allegheny mountains into present-day Virginia and Kentucky and into the Ohio Valley.

The St. Lawrence Iroquoians, Wyandot (Huron), Erie, and Susquehannock, all independent peoples known to the European colonists, also spoke Iroquoian languages. They are considered Iroquoian in a larger cultural sense, all being descended from the Proto-Iroquoian people and language. Historically, however, they were competitors and enemies of the Iroquois League nations. Cherokee is also an Iroquoian language.

In 2010, more than 45,000 enrolled Six Nations people lived in Canada, and over 81,000 in the United States.

Names

Iroquois, the most common name for the confederacy, is of somewhat obscure origin. Its first written appearance as "Irocois" is in Samuel de Champlain's account of his journey to Tadoussac in 1603. Other early French spellings include "Erocoise", "Hiroquois", "Hyroquoise", "Irecoies", "Iriquois", "Iroquaes", "Irroquois", and "Yroquois", pronounced at the time as [irokwe] or [irokwɛ]. Competing theories have been proposed for this term's origin, but none have gained widespread acceptance. By 1978 Ives Goddard wrote: "No such form is attested in any Indian language as a name for any Iroquoian group, and the ultimate origin and meaning of the name are unknown.

Jesuit priest and missionary Pierre François Xavier de Charlevoix wrote in 1744:

The name Iroquois is purely French, and is formed from the [Iroquoian-language] term Hiro or Hero, which means I have said—with which these Indians close all their addresses, as the Latins did of old with their dixi—and of Koué, which is a cry sometimes of sadness, when it is prolonged, and sometimes of joy, when it is pronounced shorter.”

>> The H letter at the beginning of a word is swallowed/omitted in French; so if their real name starts with it, it’s swallowed in French; like for example the word HUT in English is pronounced with the H, but in French, the H is omitted during the pronunciation and it becomes “UT”.

“In 1883, Horatio Hale wrote that Charlevoix's etymology was dubious, and that "no other nation or tribe of which we have any knowledge has ever borne a name composed in this whimsical fashion".Hale suggested instead that the term came from Huron, and was cognate with the Mohawk ierokwa- "they who smoke," or Cayuga iakwai- "a bear". In 1888, J.N.B. Hewitt expressed doubts that either of those words exist in the respective languages. He preferred the etymology from Montagnais irin "true, real" and ako "snake", plus the French -ois suffix. Later he revised this to Algonquin Iriⁿakhoiw as the origin.”

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