31 Questions and Answers About the IRS - Old 1996 Early Internet Research Site on the Origin of the IRS?

>>18130159 PB

>Congress does not have to form a bill to abolish the IRS, because Congress did not create the IRS in the first place. There is NO Congressional Charter for the creation of the IRS.

>All they have to do is turn off the money that flows into the IRS.

>>18130580

>This seems on point. It is true the IRS has no creation statute. They are basically the thugs of the fed to go shake people down.

Could Anons (maybe Lawfag anons with the ability to look up old cases?) entertain an old site about the historical formation of the IRS done by what can only be described as original internet researcher anons?

And before you go, is there a way to archive this ancient site off line in total? It is literally so old it is built for a 287 machine.

A lot of research was done on the origin of the IRS back when this anon was celebrating the 800th web site to come on line with other first time web page makers? The woman who created EBAY was still selling stuff out of her garage. There was a group of lawyers, and other researchers participating in this question, at the time.

The internet was in it's infancy.

Seems the first lawyers to get on line wanted to know where the hell the IRS came from.

The page below, is the history they were able to come up with back then, as many of us watched what they were saying with some fascination.

(In a town of 800 web sites, everyone knew everyone seems like)

Anon has always wanted to post it, but, I fear it will be torn down if I do, and I can not tell if the legal work is sound. But if it is….

Then….

Apparently every state has a contract with the IRS to collect taxes for the state? State legislators seem unaware that the IRS has a contract with their state to collect federal taxes in their state?

(Pic related 2-3-4) are the beginning pages of a sample of one of these state contracts for Oklahoma, inserted into a Congressional Hearing in the 70's. The origin of the IRS is a closely held secret, it seams.

Any such contract work like this would have to be done in a bidding process I think.

The contract is needed perhaps because it would otherwise be unconstitutional for a private entity to collect taxes in the 50 states, without a contract to bypass the Constitution?

According to the research:

The IRS was a private entity domiciled in Puerto Rico. Originally it was used as a tax office for taxing the territories, (constitutional) but, Unconstitutional as applied to the states?

The big change came during WWII when the off shore entity was used to collect the "voluntary war tax"?

The original name of it was the Bureau of Internal Revenue? And if this research is correct, it explains why Congress never created a law to create an IRS as applied to the states. At most they were acting as the governing body of the territories when they created the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

Anyway, here is the site.

Get it down. Archive. Check out the cases. Repost for any lawyers and legislators who would like to know where the hell this thing came from.

I Converted the page to pdf and put a link to the site here too. But I don't know if the conversion will work. The sample state contract with the IRS is also on the site but I cant relocate at the moment. It is buried in a hearing at supremelaw.org

31 Questions and Answers about the IRS

http://supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm

>>18134933

Sorry, could not get pics related to load. Files too large. Will try again here.

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Ok, pics related seem to be loading 2 at a time, and legible.

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Most interesting, that states must make contracts with the IRS in order for the thugs to collect taxes.

The history of the creation of the IRS that these old anon lawfags and the like came up with is equally fascinating.

>>18134933

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>At footnote 23 in the case of Chrysler Corp. v. Brown, 441 U.S. 281 (1979), the U.S. Supreme Court admitted that no organic Act for the IRS could be found, after they searched for such an Act all the way back to the Civil War, which ended in the year 1865 A.D. The Guarantee Clause in the U.S. Constitution guarantees the Rule of Law to all Americans (we are to be governed by Law and not by arbitrary bureaucrats). See Article IV, Section 4. Since there was no organic Act creating it, IRS is not a lawful organization.

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1. If not an organization within the U.S. Department of the Treasury, then what exactly is the IRS?

Answer: The IRS appears to be a collection agency working for foreign banks and operating out of Puerto Rico under color of the Federal Alcohol Administration (“FAA”). But the FAA was promptly declared unconstitutional inside the 50 States by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of U.S. v. Constantine, 296 U.S. 287 (1935), because Prohibition had already been repealed.

In 1998, the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit identified a second “Secretary of the Treasury” as a man by the name of Manual Díaz-Saldaña. See the definitions of “Secretary” and “Secretary or his delegate” at 27 CFR 26.11 (formerly 27 CFR 250.11), and the published decision in Used Tire International, Inc. v. Manual Díaz-Saldaña, court docket number 97‑2348, September 11, 1998. Both definitions mention Puerto Rico.

When all the evidence is examined objectively, IRS appears to be a money laundry, extortion racket, and conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering activity, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1951 and 1961 et seq. (“RICO”). Think of Puerto RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act); in other words, it is an organized crime syndicate operating under false and fraudulent pretenses. See also the Sherman Act and the Lanham Act.

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By what legal authority, if any, has the IRS established offices inside the 50 States of the Union?

Answer: After much diligent research, several investigators have concluded that there is no known Act of Congress, nor any Executive Order, giving IRS lawful jurisdiction to operate within any of the 50 States of the Union.

Their presence within the 50 States appears to stem from certain Agreements on Coordination of Tax Administration (“ACTA”), which officials in those States have consummated with the Commissioner of Internal Revenue. A template for ACTA agreements can be found at the IRS Internet website and in the Supreme Law Library on the Internet.

However, those ACTA agreements are demonstrably fraudulent, for example, by expressly defining “IRS” as a lawful bureau within the U.S. Department of the Treasury. (See Answer to Question 1 above.) Moreover, those ACTA agreements also appear to violate State laws requiring competitive bidding before such a service contract can be awarded by a State government to any subcontractor. There is no evidence to indicate that ACTA agreements were reached after competitive bidding processes; on the contrary, the IRS is adamant about maintaining a monopoly syndicate.

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>Their presence within the 50 States appears to stem from certain Agreements on Coordination of Tax Administration (“ACTA”), which officials in those States have consummated with the Commissioner of Internal Revenue.

See all the above pics related for a sample of Oklahoma Contract with IRS called an ACTA agreement here?

Wonder what would happen if state legislators understood THE STATES have the right to collect the FEDERAL TAXES, and the STATES can tell the FEDS what must be done to get the money? Maybe the purse strings belong to the states too? Not just Congress?

>>18135203

>LAWFAG HERE

>this is another SLIDE

Doubt it "law fag".

The history of the IRS, its Domicile, and whether it is functioning legally in the 50 states is NEVER a slide.

Obviously, the question is, WHAT LAW WRITTEN BY CONGRESS, created the IRS?

EPA created by the SUPERFUND LAW to deal with severely contaminated chemical dump sites. They take it upon themselves without Congressional authority or intent to write REGULATIONS (interpretations) of the law, but NOT LAW.

Only Congress writes law.

So the question is always:

What Specific Congressional LAW created the IRS?

And is the IRS acting legally under said law that no one can seem to find?

>>18135284

Show me the law, even the vote tally from Congress, and the date it happened, if you can.

>>18135225

And This?

>The administration and enforcement of the following provisions of this title shall be performed by or under the supervision of the Attorney General; and the term “Secretary” or “Secretary of the Treasury” shall, when applied to those provisions, mean the Attorney General; and the term “internal revenue officer” shall, when applied to those provisions, mean any officer of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives so designated by the Attorney General:

The question ALSO needs to be raised whether and where the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Fire Arms came from?

Tell ya where…

Prohibition.

When that Constitutional amendment was repealed, so was the ATF. The thugs just refused to go away, so, as far as I am concerned, they are operating as illegally as the IRS.

>>18135312

Thats right, 10 amendment.

Thugs in the IRS and ATF want to pretend it does not exist.

Without the enumerated power to say diddly about alcohol, guns, tobacco, drugs, even certain green plants, truth is, the feds have zero rights. ZERO rights. At least they passed a damn amendment to the constitution to be legal about what they were doing back then.

Now, they just assume authority they do not have.

So.

To the "lawfag" who thinks the question of where and how the IRS got authority to exist at all….?

You are as bad as the docs who give out COVID shots without doing research.

And may I remind you that American Citizens have EVERY RIGHT to abolish the IRS, no matter WHERE it came from or how legal it might be?

Yeah.

Bottom line there bud.

>>18135325

When you dig into the site at my original post, the Supreme Court decisions flat out say that private wages are not INCOME under the "code" since there is no law.

Privately made wages are not profits.

There is a time for money exchange that rides on the Supply / Demand chart. The court defined income and wages as a corporate matter. Wages is the case where you work for a temp service and THEY collect WAGES, some of which they keep, and some ends up in your paycheck.

They have taken years to confuse the law.

But the bottom line is this:

If you read the 31 questions and Answers about the IRS post I put up, and you look at the contract "ACTA" agreement between Oklahoma, and the IRS, LOGIC will have you asking why that contract is necessary?

My conclusion is that the IRS can not act unconstitutionally in a state without permission.

The states have contracts that give the IRS PERMISSION to collect.

We need to locate the ACTA contracts in all 50 states. Boy. Talk about shining a light on some off shore money laundering thugs.

>>18135387

I do not know how good the research was at the time but it is a hell of a site. Oddly enough, right in the middle of that research, a lot of strange emails came through about shooting out the tires on a large plane before it took off with a plane load of trafficked children too. So, the trafficking is tied to the money laundering in many ways I have always suspected.

Never forget. NO MATTER WHAT arguments they may have in the future, on the IRS, it is our RIGHT as citizens to abolish it. They have ZERO to say about it. Remember that going foreword. And read Ben Franklins Diary about how colonial script worked in the colonies.

The barter system on paper called colonial script was anchored …not to gold, but to the gross national product, as an automatic feature.

Did not matter how fast the nation grew, or how many kids the families had. The currency grew with GNP, no inflation, no deflation possible.

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If you read the 31 questions and Answers about the IRS post I put up, and you look at the contract "ACTA" agreement between Oklahoma, and the IRS, LOGIC will have you asking why that contract is necessary?

My conclusion is that the IRS can not act unconstitutionally in a state without permission.

The states have contracts that give the IRS PERMISSION to collect.

We need to locate the ACTA contracts in all 50 states. Boy. Talk about shining a light on some off shore money laundering thugs.

>>18134933

>and the term “internal revenue officer” shall, when applied to those provisions, mean any officer of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives so designated by the Attorney General:

>The question ALSO needs to be raised whether and where the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Fire Arms came from?

>Tell ya where…

>Prohibition.

>When that Constitutional amendment was repealed, so was the ATF. The thugs just refused to go away, so, as far as I am concerned, they are operating as illegally as the IRS.