Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 6:36 p.m. No.18317007   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7017 >>7116 >>7174 >>7209 >>7344 >>7517 >>7649

FBI Retracts Report Labeling Trad Catholics Thought Terrorists

Evita Duffy-Alfonso1 of 2FEB. 09, 2023

 

A leaked FBI report revealed that the Bureau’s Richmond, Virginia Division is investigating the threat of “white supremacy” among Catholics who prefer Latin Mass. Since the leak made headlines, FBI headquarters rescinded the report, claiming it does not “open an investigation based solely on First Amendment protected activity.”

 

This seems to contradict the document itself, which says its findings are based in part on “liaison reporting.” According to the document’s whistleblower and former Special Agent Kyle Seraphin, liaisons “are overt contacts with trusted members of a community or an industry.” That suggests the FBI already has been investigating Americans based on “First Amendment protected activity.”

 

The January 23, 2023 document claims “Radical-Traditionalist Catholics” (RTCs) are “typically characterized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council” (which allowed for Mass to be said in people’s spoken language) and their “adherence to anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ and white supremacist ideology.” According to the FBI, the threat comes from RTCs increasingly fraternizing with “Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists” (RMVE).

 

To further surveil “Radical-Traditionalist Catholics,” the document says the Bureau may potentially mitigate this “threat” with “tripwire and source development,” which means further infiltration into Catholic communities using various kinds of informants. The report also implies the FBI will begin monitoring social media posts for what it claims is “Radical-Traditionalist Catholics” ideology.

 

Terrible Sourcing

 

The FBI sources grounding the field office’s recommendation to increase federal surveillance of conservative Christians include two Salon articles, the infamous “rosary extremism” Atlantic article, and a report from the Southern Poverty Law Center — all left-wing sources, three of which were op-eds.

 

Nowhere in the document does the FBI explain how traditional Catholics pose a “violent” threat. The document offers only two pieces of evidence of an “overlap” between “Racially and Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists” and “Radical-Traditionalist Catholics.” One is that both groups are “[hostile] toward abortion rights advocates.”

 

For the second, the FBI cites an alleged collaboration between Nick Fuentes’ “American First/groyper Movement” and Church Militant, a Catholic media organization that has been hyper-critical of the Catholic Church’s handling of sex abuse cases and woke ideology infecting American bishops.

 

The evidence sources provide for the “overlap” between Radical-Traditional Catholics and “Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists” include Fuentes’ supporters and Church Militant activists attending the same pro-life demonstration and Michelle Malkin speaking at Church Militant rally.

 

One of the Salon articles even has a quote from Church Militant founder Michael Voris explicitly stating there’s no association between Church Militant and America First: “Church Militant doesn’t align itself with any specific group in a formal way — including groups that are expressly Catholic,” Voris said at the time.

 

“Church Militant might partner with anyone in a particular effort to achieve a limited and shared goal,” Voris added. “In this particular case (Roe), yes. [Church Militant] will link arms with almost anyone who decries the horror of babies being hacked to death in their mothers’ wombs. Isn’t ‘linking arms’ the very thing Antifa and BLM and the Democrats do?”

 

The Federalist asked Voris if there have been any associations between Fuentes or America First and Church Militant. Voris responded: “Zero. Never has been.” …

 

https://thefederalist.com/2023/02/09/fbi-retracts-memo-labeling-traditional-catholics-violent-white-supremacists-pushing-infiltration-of-christian-communities/

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 6:39 p.m. No.18317017   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7174 >>7277 >>7344 >>7517 >>7649

>>18317007

The FBI Doesn’t Get Catholicism (or patriotism) 2 of 2

 

The document identifies “Radical-Traditionalist Catholics” as “typically characterized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council,” and names several Catholic groups in schism, meaning in a formal break from the Catholic Church. However, Church Militant, the FBI’s only named organization allegedly flirting with racist extremists, ardently defends the validity of Vatican II and the vernacular Mass. A video posted to its YouTube channel just this week calls on viewers to avoid falling into schism at all costs.

 

The FBI’s fabricated association between traditional Catholics and white supremacy is even more bizarre given Catholic Church demographics. The word Catholic is derived from Greek and means “universal.” The Catholic Church is extremely multiracial, with North Americans and Europeans making up a minority of the global Catholic population. In the United States, Hispanics account for 40 percent of the Catholic population.

 

Voris told The Federalist the FBI should stick to “drug cartels and human trafficking” because its “theological analysis” is “off base.” He explained that the idea that Catholicism could coexist with white supremacy is ludicrous, given that Christianity teaches “every single person was made in the image and likeness of God and therefore has an inherent spark of the divine life and dignity within them, so you can’t hate anyone.”

 

A Pretext To Persecute Political Enemies

 

“The government right now is the one that our founders feared,” said Voris. Indeed, the FBI report justifies surveilling private citizens’ social media and infiltrating their religious communities without providing any legitimate or serious evidence for how they pose a “violent” threat. The only crimes the FBI field office could identify were thought crimes.

 

The Richmond bureau mentions surveilling Catholics’ response to “immigration, affirmative action, and LGBTQ protections,” things that under the First Amendment, Catholics are allowed to protest and reject.

 

Traditional Catholics are not white supremacists. Even if they were, racist viewpoints are protected under the First Amendment. The “groypers,” or the “Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremist” group that the FBI is so focused on, also have a right under the Constitution to think and say whatever they want—so long as they aren’t violent. The entire report is an affront to constitutional rights and yet another reminder that the FBI is becoming nothing more than the intimidation and enforcement arm of the extremist Democratic Party.

 

The FBI wants Americans to believe this was an honest mistake. In reality, it’s extremely on-brand with the corruption and political targeting that’s become commonplace in the bureau. As far as we know there have been no major FBI investigations into Black Lives Matter and Antifa, two groups that torched American cities in summer 2020 and caused at least 18 deaths and more than $1 billion dollars in property damage.

 

There have also been only a handful of arrests and sparse investigation related to the nearly 100 attacks on pro-life organizations and churches at the hands of pro-abortion domestic terrorists in 2022. Meanwhile, peaceful pro-life activists have had their homes raided by federal agents and face lawfare, fines, and prison time.

 

The FBI launched the Russia collusion hoax against President Donald Trump by lying to a secret court about the credibility of Christopher Steele, the author of the debunked Russian disinformation dossier. The agency interfered in the 2020 election by preemptively branding the Hunter Biden laptop story as Russian disinformation for Facebook (and likely other platforms) to censor. For years, the FBI also secretly pressured Americans into signing forms that relinquish their constitutional right to own, purchase, or even use firearms, and they even launched investigations into “terrorist” parents who express concerns at local school board meetings.

 

The FBI report that demonizes devout Catholics is not based on any “threat pictures,” as the analyst says, but on raw politics. This time, the target was traditional Catholics, but you can be sure they won’t stop with Catholics.

 

(So if one loves the Latin Mass as my grandmother, and all prior generationsof her family along with my mother and my family, we are now terrorists? I have to agree with the whistleblowers, its time for change in American Government)

 

https://thefederalist.com/2023/02/09/fbi-retracts-memo-labeling-traditional-catholics-violent-white-supremacists-pushing-infiltration-of-christian-communities/

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 6:52 p.m. No.18317089   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7107 >>7109 >>7114 >>7150 >>7154 >>7159 >>7245 >>7460 >>7497

I have to say Tulsi Gabbard’s speech today at the hearing was meaningful, accurate and pointed out the severe danger our country is in with the attempt to eliminate free speech!

 

Have anons thought that she could be an honorable VP?I know all the history and stories, I’m just considering her military service as a real sacrifice for our country.

 

I know there will be many perspectives on this question and I’m open to hearing them in friendly debate, if possible.

 

(The first response will probably be the picture of her hands in the all seeing eye symbol)

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 7:29 p.m. No.18317245   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7265

>>18317089

All excellent responses and some ot this is exactly what I was thinking. There might be too much baggage or debts she owes and can be manipulated easily. She may be playing a game to gain the trust of gullible conservatives.

 

She seems sincere, but at this point, trust is lacking with everyone. Heck Pence who I didn’t like in no time, when he was repeating his fake humility and honor to the President, and then he really betrayed the country and our President.

 

What ever happens to them as a test from God, being put in a higher office, they rarely ever pass the test. It’s hard to determine who would be loyal to our country and the Office. Many doubt Mike Flynn. I don’t know if I doubt his loyalty, no offense but I doubt his intelligence. He’s certainly not dumb because he has been in the highest offices in the military and government but I still cannot understand how he trusted those two FBI agents that came to the WH that set him up for close to four years of absolute hell.

 

I just can’t understand how his spidy senses didn’t kick in, and why he didn’t kick them out at that very moment. Even Ezra said he tried to stop him from meeting with them, but it was too late.

 

So with all that said, whatever the tests of honor and humility God puts them through, by placing them in powerful positions, very few are successful.

 

With all that said, she will have to literally disavow her upbringing and prove her only goal is to Make America Great Again! A hard challenge for sure.

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 7:59 p.m. No.18317349   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18317159

Trusting someone to meet with a country leader may be an easier job than working in the WH and Trump daily. Unless the media are made to heel, his second term will not be easier. Hopefully these committees will right things in the enemy agencies and break the back of the lying media* once and for all!

 

Whatever the case is, I did like her speech, she was very clear of the dangers our country has been in for much longer than Trump’s term.

 

God needs to help Trump to choose the right person. From what I’ve heard Pence was forced on Trump by Ryan. And Ryan is back to destroy Trump. He’s definitely a weak faggot but has billions of dollars backing him, to destroy Trump. It’s not the money that is the problem its all the fucking set ups they will create. Citizens could get “the war against Trump fatigue”!

I doubt that will happen although it is tiring, but giving up is the death of our nation, andNONE OF US AS AMERICANS will allow that!

 

God Almighty,

 

Please by your Almighty Grace, Power and Love, send the perfect, hand picked by you, Vice President candidate to President Trump. He cannot go it alone this time. The person needs to have absolute loyalty to the constitution, the country, the people and the Office of the President, and our leader Donald J. Trump. We ask this and submit this prayer according to thy will. Let it be done in your name YAHWEH and Jesus’s name.

Amen

 

Yahweh, name for the God of the Israelites, representing the biblical pronunciation of “YHWH,” the Hebrew name revealed to Moses in the book of Exodus. The name YHWH, consisting of the sequence of consonants Yod, Heh, Waw, and Heh, is known as the tetragrammaton.

 

(*I wondered why Trump didn’t reverse the change to the Smith Mundt Act when Obama enacted allowing them to propagandize the country. I finally realized that the people had to see it for themselves, to know they have been lied to for at least 70 years in our country. He had to expose it,so he can reveal it as his first act as President again, is rescinding forever the propagandacommitted against our country. If they never saw it, they wouldn’t have believed it.)

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 8:12 p.m. No.18317392   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7404 >>7407 >>7453 >>7458

>>18317265

So was the game theory to make Mike Flynn the sacrificial lamb, so Trump could be free to work without interference? It seems opposite of game theory when his only protection according to Flynn, “if I wasn’t take out, I can guarantee the Mueller investigation would never have happened”?

 

I can see some benefits to this game theory but he was left with a bunch of weakling traitors when he was gone. Even Sara Huckabee has seemingly betrayed him because she wouldn’t mention his name. McEnany is not much better. The only ones still loyal to him are a number of people that were forced out.

 

I know Trump with the divine assistance of God, will male sure he has all of the loyal and indomitable support that he needs the second time around, No More Cry Babies or Weaklings!

 

WWG1WGA

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 8:39 p.m. No.18317470   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18317263

So torresays article was somewhat right but questioned the conclusion

 

Future proves past

 

Anon’s statement that “Wray is a sleeper” seems like confirmation will be coming soon

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 8:46 p.m. No.18317491   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18317169

notableGrassley was excellent today and he with Johnson literally revealed all the traitors in the agencies, Congress and Gov.

 

God Bless these two men and their staff, they will be recognized as true heros in the near future

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 8:56 p.m. No.18317519   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7546

>>18317404

He does, you know when he looks up to heaven when he mentions God, I think he’s very attuned to God’s presence! Those four years must have awakened his strength, wisdom and might God gave him . People say his faith only got stronger. Mine too as a matter of fact.

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 8:58 p.m. No.18317527   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18317453

True that anon…they cannot understand why Trump is still fighting even with everything they’ve done and are still doing, mostly because they don’t believe in God.

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 9:03 p.m. No.18317542   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18317442

It would be very satisfying to know one day who the 17 were and where they went if still here on the planet. The one person that needs to be prosecuted now is Whiny Paul Ryan. All those guys had one chance to leave and never be seen again but little pussy Paul couldn’t stay away.

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 9:10 p.m. No.18317563   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18317229

Excellent and verynotableGaetz is very happy with McCarthy honoring his commitments, he’s anxious to get the 14,000 hours out for Jan 6, and he thinks the FIB undercover agents animated the violence that day.

 

When Gaetz gives McCarthy an “A” on his leadership thats very significant

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 9:20 p.m. No.18317610   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7667

>>18317209

 

>I said, watch what you say or they'll becalling you a radical

Liberal, oh fanatical, criminal

Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're acceptable

Respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable

Oh, take it take it yeah

 

This is why I love anons and love this board

 

No homo here, but so comfy to be with such bright anons that can connect anything.

 

Wasn’t that song from the early 80’s?

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 9:29 p.m. No.18317646   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7653

>>18317116

Thx for posting this, I hadn’t seen it. My family was brought up Catholic, most if them have rejected all faith now because they went left. My sister even told me to stop talking about the soul, she preferred to use psycholofical terms. I said No! Because the soul is your psyche.

 

Honestly they are quite boring people. I still love them but liking is getting harder to do.

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 9:35 p.m. No.18317672   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18317035

You mean he was outraged again and lashed out. Those Ukrainians expect everything for free. Time to cut the GD leaches off forever. Zelensky better get out now before he can’t. He’s making his allies into enemies quickly

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 9:42 p.m. No.18317697   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7701

10 Feb, 2023 04:47

Republicans push to end Ukraine aid

The lawmakers argued continued US military aid to Ukraine is “inadvertently contributing to civilian casualties”

 

Republicans in Congress have introduced a resolution seeking to halt US aid to Ukraine, citing the massive cost to taxpayers, the risk of escalation with Moscow and the toll on America’s own arsenal after some $30 billion in arms transfers.

 

Led by Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, 11 Republicans put forward the “Ukraine Fatigue Resolution” on Thursday, which states that Washington “must end its military and financial aid to Ukraine” while urging “all combatants to reach a peace agreement.”

 

“President Joe Biden must have forgotten his prediction from March 2022, suggesting that arming Ukraine with military equipment will escalate the conflict to ‘World War III,’” Gaetz said in a press release announcing the resolution. “We must suspend all foreign aid for the war in Ukraine and demand that all combatants in this conflict reach a peace agreement immediately.”

 

Arguing that the United States is in a period of “managed decline,” Gaetz said the problems will only get worse if the government continues to “hemorrhage taxpayer dollars” in a foreign conflict.

 

The resolution includes a list outlining the staggering American military largesse for Ukrainian forces since last year, stating that “munitions donated to Ukraine have severely depleted United States stockpiles, weakening United States readiness in the event of conflict.” It went on to cite a recent report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies which found that, at the current rate of production, it will take more than 12 years to replenish the US stock of Javelin missiles, underscoring the strain on American arsenals.

 

Moreover, the lawmakers argued military support to Kiev was “inadvertently contributing to civilian casualties” on all sides, echoing previous comments from Gaetz, who has said the weapons would only “prolong the killing.”

 

Long a vocal critic of US aid to Ukraine, Gaetz’s resolution was joined by 10 Republican co-sponsors, among them Reps. Thomas Massie, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, Anna Paulina Luna, Mary Miller, Barry Moore, Ralph Norman and Matt Rosendale.

 

Though a growing number of House Republicans are increasingly wary of the aid – among them House Speaker Kevin McCarthy– senior lawmakers in the Senate have been more supportive. In December, Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell declared that “providing assistance for Ukrainians to defeat the Russians is the number one priority for the United States right now,” claiming that view was broadly shared among the GOP.

 

Yes, Yes, Yes! Do it now

 

https://www.rt.com/news/571262-republicans-ukraine-aid-resolution/

Anonymous ID: 606be4 Feb. 9, 2023, 9:48 p.m. No.18317730   🗄️.is 🔗kun

10 Feb, 2023 02:09

US says it won’t consider sanctions relief for North Korea

Washington accused the DPRK of “provocation after provocation” while urging it to abandon its nuclear arsenal

 

The United States will not seek dialogue with North Korea or repeal heavy sanctions imposed on the country unless Pyongyang ceases alleged “provocations,” the State Department said, vowing to continue the penalties indefinitely.

 

Speaking to reporters on Thursday, State Department spokesman Ned Price was asked whether Washington should ease its sanctions on the DPRK and halt joint military drills with the South in order to “talk with North Korea.”

 

“We have an offer on the table to the DPRK for dialogue right now. This is an offer that the DPRK could have accepted over the course of nearly two years, and so far has chosen not to,” he said. “Instead, the DPRK has engaged in provocation after provocation, each one of which poses a threat to international peace and security in the region and potentially beyond.” (Only after Bidan stole the election when Trump and Kim had worked things out, what did you expect Ned, the Admin seems to want war around the world to cover up the crimes of the Bidan family)

 

Though Price did not elaborate on the offer made to North Korean officials, during the same press briefing he said the US continues to seek “the complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula,” echoing a goal set by several previous administrations.

 

“We would like to see the DPRK engage in dialogue. But until and unless that happens, our approach will remain the same,” he said, adding that the US would continue to “coordinate closely” with allied forces in the region.

 

Pyongyang has repeatedly denounced joint military exercises between the US, South Korea and at times Japan, saying they are effectively rehearsals for an attack on the North. Price, however, insisted the drills have involved “defensive maneuvers” only, arguing they are necessary to demonstrate that the security of allies “remains ironclad.”

 

The State Department spokesman also briefly touched on a large military parade held in the North Korean capital on Wednesday, calling the event a “propaganda exercise” after stating he would not comment. The parade saw an arsenal of military gear on display, including Pyongyang’s newly developed Hwasong-17 intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). According to Ankit Panda of the US-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the parade featured more ICBM launchers than ever before.

 

The parade underscored growing military tensions in the region after a highly contentious 2022, which saw a record number of North Korean weapons tests and a flurry of joint drills by the US, South Korea and Japan, including the largest aerial exercise ever held between Seoul and Washington.

 

The United States maintains several layers of heavy sanctions on Pyongyang, imposing another round of penalties last December when US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said the White House is “committed to using pressure and diplomacy to entice North Korea into giving up its nuclear arsenal.”Pyongyang has insisted its weapons are needed to repel a potential attack by the US and its partners, but says they are for defensive purposes only.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/571260-us-north-korea-sanctions/

 

(Ned seems to be a “horseface”, or maybe its the Mr. Ed connection.)