>>18388707

Never heard of the (pb) tag?

>belief is all you have

We've been over this.

I agree - to an extend. But as I also said, we must accept the reality for what it is presented as, at least to a large extend, to not detach completely. This is necessary belief and what I among other things referred to when I said belief served a psychological purpose.

Belief in anything - along with what I described above is by it's nature irrational because you base it on something unverifiable.

If you know it isn't belief.

I agree that you can't truly "know" anything - but that is where the belief in the "realness" of reality is required.

So sure - believe is all we have - but if that is your argument you must take it to its logical conclusion to where reality is just as much a belief and then having this conversation is redundant.

>>18388960

>I've often thought "If they don't think they exist, why are they arguing with me?"

A better phrasing would be: "Why am I arguing with myself?"

>The universe is reasonable, that's why we can figure things out.

Even this statement is based in belief which again makes it irrational.

Some beliefs are shared, to the point where they are accepted as fact with no basis - such as reality existing around us or in some societies God exists.

Nothing you've said refuted my point - or I am simply to dimwitted to understand what you're trying to convey.

>>18389032

>Einstein actually refuted you, but you missed it.l

> but you missed it

No he did not. He just asserted common knowledge - in a way most people, including myself, would agree with.

But I could also rephrase it from the perspective of our discussion to: "

>Our mind is reasonable, that's why we can figure things out.

>>18389050

>Are you claiming to be irrational,

No, I am claiming belief to be. And then you all want to drag it to the existential level where nothing is real and everything is belief.

And as I stated from the start - there is no way to argue against that, so since you want it there i keep my answers in that perspective.

I started by saying that, to stay sane some beliefs has to be accepted as fact - like the "realness" of reality for example.

That doesn't make it less irrational, but it provides context for all subsequent beliefs and "knowledge".

As I stated earlier too, if that is the argument that everything is belief this conversation is redundant.

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