Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 2:38 a.m. No.19255817   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5829

>>19255807

except the society and world that has been created forcing parents because of the elities and social justice to both have to work to afford their kids because most people are not able to get high paying jobs, so they need someone to take care of the children enter the public brainwashing centers which are promoted as places of learning but are nothing more than conformity centers, and adults being too busy and too stresed because of how society is totally broken send their kids to school, and I am talking about those who are even aware there is a problem and how they are still stuck most people are still blindfullly ignorant of the problems of the educational system and just how broken it really is.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 2:42 a.m. No.19255825   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5828

>>19255823

they also plan your breaks and yell at you when you need to go take a piss and have to ask their permission. Teachers especially in public schools are some of the biggest fucking jokes and are protected by communist unions.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 2:49 a.m. No.19255841   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5849 >>5893

>>19255828

remember a few years back those fucking teachers who were scaring the little kids around halloween.

 

>>19255829

figuring it out like that only works if you have the financial freedom to do so. Its not about buying a house you can't afford not totally most people can't even buy a home so that is a bullshit reasoning. The problem is that you can not support a family unless you have a damn good job as a man on one income. Then you have the additional problem of the women them selves who have to be willing to stay home and not be some empowered cunt. Homeschooling is not an option for everyone, its not as easy and as cookie cutter as you lay out.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 2:53 a.m. No.19255855   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5860

>>19255849

well the money system is the crux of the problem that all these other things spring out of. This forces couples even conservative ones to make sacrifices and that includes having to spend their children to school and there is also the assumption that every child has two parents, what about those that are dealing with single mom issues, how does the mom watch over them then?

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 3:06 a.m. No.19255890   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5900

>>19255881

yes, and you are still a faggot cuck.

there are legit reasons to get divorced

the problem is the ease of which it is done allows people to swap and change up and promote hypergamy, but your bitching about it tells me you chose poorly and married a whore and now you bitch on internet forums as I stated previously like a faggot cuck.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 3:19 a.m. No.19255906   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5914

>>19255900

You are not wrong but you are also skipping the initial problem of the schools and indoctrination camps. Both genders and hell at this point i will even include the made up ones are people who have been manipulated and lied to and fucked over in every aspect of their lives, down to even the most basic things the level of control that these systems have is incredible. So while the female problem does exist, it creates whores, and cheating, since more women cheat than men, and again you are right and I agree that marriage is a rough bag especially with how the legal system slants towards the woman, but none of this solves the issue of indoctrination camps, although if you could solve the female problem and cure the hypergamy and the grass is always greener outlook in females you might have a chance. Feminism is cancer to quote a famous fag. But again to solve the child crisis maybe you need to solve the female crisis I dunno Im fucking stoned and the sun is not even out.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 3:28 a.m. No.19255911   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5917 >>6142

>>19255907

play devils advocate here, it all goes back to the states ok fine, what happens to the country as a whole if a few states start to really fail their children to the point they test low, can not read etc. Should there be some sort of federal standards for testing and personally I am not sure if I agree or disagree with this yet. But should they have some control over what is being taught nationally so that in theory no single state falls behind another as a result of one state having better resources or some other variable. Maybe race does come into this as an unspoken taboo also because society can not force those who are not intellectually capable of learning more. Just spit ballin. Solutions will have to be some new form of compromise between the states and the federal government,

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 3:37 a.m. No.19255923   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5928

>>19255917

don't get me wrong the current federal system is fucked I am thinking it act more as what it should be as a representative of all the states to discuss what should happen for the whole, oversight is needed sometimes, its just some people and cultures do not place the same values on things than others and then people are forced to leave their homes because of politics that have been imposed on them. It should not be about top down control, but if you dont balance that system especially in a place as large as the United States, you will have areas of extreme weakness that would be vectors to exploit which IS exactly what was done, so when states fail as they have they create weakness for the Union, there has to be some based federal standards of something and not just state standards otherwise what is the point of the union if all decisions just go back to the states?

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 3:47 a.m. No.19255933   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5939 >>6036

>>19255928

these are the very types of debates that happened at the time of the constitution you stupid nigger. This was the point of the federalist and anti federalist papers. There are legitimate reasons to have oversight of the states, other wise there is no point for the union. SO how about before you mouth off again, you fucking contemplate killing yourself you fucking ignorant fuck stain.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 3:53 a.m. No.19255940   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5946

>>19255935

you are correct, and it was a war of northern aggression, and a total psy op on the population and also it allowed the expansion of the federal government, and the further continuation of the military industrial complex. The one problem with the constitution is that there is vague language there the problem then falls to the often times corrupt supreme court to make decisions that are often not in favor of the people. So it is these interpretations and then they cite long standing often times as well for their rulings. So if the Federal government controls national security, at what point does the individual states becoming weak become a national security problem, at what point can the federal government just seize state power claiming jurisdiction. Its not as clear cut as some extreme constitutionalists may like people to think.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 3:55 a.m. No.19255945   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5950

>>19255939

how about you pull that dick out of your mouth, never said I was against anything you straw manning nigger. helicopter rides will be free for your family then you stupid cunt.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 3:59 a.m. No.19255949   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5953 >>5954 >>6038

>>19255946

Then why have a union, how about you fucking back off. I don't want to give power to meglomaniacs I want to figure out how does the state not just benefit from being its own thing why have the union. Why not just be the country of new York. If the states are left to their own devices you are assuming they would be any better off and what if they become totally corrupt what then how does that get fixed, dont tell me voting. There has to be some level of oversight other wise what is the point of having a federal government for other than perhaps military defense but that idea can get expanded also.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 4:07 a.m. No.19255958   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6031

>>19255950

who me, I just want to understand this states rights thing at least in terms of education, that allows a state to have different standards than the national and if that creates a national problem, trying to figure out the balance of how does a state and especially when there are 50 plus some territories govern when you have all the power going back to the states, if its just to settle interstate disputes fine, but we need to understand what those limits are going to be and how that can be misused

 

>>19255953

Than apologies for the attitude, I really just want to understand because it seems that there are problems with an over reliance on either system the state or the federal, but but seem to be needed especially in a nation as large as the USA, It was just me wanting to know who sets the standards for kids taking tests in school as a hypothetical, the state or the federal government, should there be universal standards, should states have the right to refuse standards, 13 states is easy 50 and then with the population its not feasible using just the old system either..its just not

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 4:18 a.m. No.19255976   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5993

>>19255970

oh did not realize that using swear words needed to be pointed out. Some anons just prefer to not be stifled with limited lexicons of linear language we prefer pontificating provocative patterns of profound profanity.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 4:27 a.m. No.19255999   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6106 >>6174

>>19255982

an anon with an idea, nice, I think i like the idea, so even the state it self would not have control over kids? Do you think a county level model would work for big places like chicago? How do you transition larger places also like chicago over to a localized level when so much is based upon federal and state funds it gets just to do the poor job it is doing.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 4:53 a.m. No.19256072   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6099

>>19256031

and you are not wrong in your hypothetical either because that is what is being taught, and I also am well aware the first sign of a dictator is those saying no we can do it better, but there is a major problem with how education is even viewed, so kids do not get to explore their natural talents and explore things like you suggested, all the systems need repair and restructuring if not out right demolishing. Its just at what level will each of these things need to be done. There are so many things broken and I just want to figure out what the hell can be done to fix it after all this shit goes down.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 5:13 a.m. No.19256128   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6201

>>19256106

I am intrigued, trying to think quickly if there are things that should also be thought of, the biggest obstacle is not the positions themselves per se its the ability to fire people from said positions this goes for teachers as well as federal bureaucrats. No doubt overpaid and the fact its impossible to fire them creates huge problems. One question I think that might come up is how do the county level model deal with certifications for teaching? I think putting the money also back in the communities hands will do better. I think will also extend to the re imagining of what higher education looks like if it is even needed after this. Part of me says the college model has to be torn down totally because its not about a piece of paper that creates wage slaves. But I like that you have a basis of a plan that can be at least talked about and molded.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 5:21 a.m. No.19256164   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19256142

again no debate with what you are saying but that creates additional problems down the road by not having it in some form. Just depends on what is created not what we have seen.

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 5:40 a.m. No.19256239   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19256201

I think the standards you propose would also allow more people with different knowledge basis help instruct programs especially when it cmes to trades and skills, it should not be what letters you got on a piece of paper and from what place and that should not get you more or less money. The indoctrination was the same no matter what level you paid to recieve it at. Well part of the oversight that I am imagining would allow these people to get fired to have that public visage. Maybe all politicians have to live in a cbs reality house. Beaurocrats are the worst and most of what they do can already be replaced with AI. Its just being able to fire all these people goes a long way and getting rid of unions but also some of the state mandated work for hire laws need to be restructured also because you should have some workplace protections from employers who are corrupt

Anonymous ID: f0f165 July 28, 2023, 5:41 a.m. No.19256248   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6268 >>6271

>>19256220

I don't think I am all knowing it is why I am asking questions. Why does your god get preference over other peoples beliefs? That seems like a totalitarian way to run things. Thinking you are chosen seems also like an ego fluff.