Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 10:51 a.m. No.19876486   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6490

>>19876482

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>>18932620 #generalflynn #tuckercarlson #4thePURE

>>18932626 8:32 PM · May 9, 2023

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>>18932694 .

 

Demand to know why Flynn 4thePure was removed?

By whom?

With what authority?

 

Anon votes FLYNN 4thePure back in Globals!

Can Anon get a Second! A Third!?

 

 

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!

TOP LEVEL ANON ALERT!!!

Why was the Flynn (American fucking Hero!) 4thePURE removed? Fucking traitors!

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!

 

 

 

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Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 10:53 a.m. No.19876497   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6499 >>6503

The Alex Jones Show (03/24/23) FULL SHOW

Former Head of Defense Intelligence Agency General Michael Flynn Joins Alex Jones to Lay Out CRITICAL Information Concerning Future of Humanity & How to Stop WW3

https://rumble.com/v2eotim-the-alex-jones-show-032423-full-show.html

https://rumble.com/embed/v2c3dya/?pub=4

Join Alex as he spends the first 30+ minutes of the show degrading President Trump, Appealing to his own Authority right before bringing on Patriot General Flynn who did not defend Trump from Alex's previous tirade.

 

Flynn at timestamps:

 

49:00 Alex Promotes Flynn' book

50:00 Alex speaking "but also, in a "loyal" way, I'm not attacking Trump but when he, but when the, he says "Let's Protest" and doesn't say "Peaceful", All I said was "You might want to say "PEACEFUL" because they might have provocateurs and say that you meant violent"

50:24 "and he says "Well who needs to be, whose talking about peace? The democrats are violent." Well just because they are violent doesn't mean we are. Then He (Trump) says "Death and Destruction if I am arrested."."

50:50 "Ugh he was peaceful on January 6 and so were we, we tried to stop it. I'm, I'm, I'm concerned about this and who is advising him and so, if you can, also give us your expert take on that………"

50:54 Flynn Loves Alex's "Alex Jones for President" T shirt. Laughs then goes into a "will the real Alex Jones please stand up" lyrical musing.

51:00 Flynn spends a lot of time in a round about way to say that yes, Trump and his advisors were wrong and need to be more careful.

1:15:00 "I could be the worst nightmare to a guy like Trump but I am not, this is not about Trump, this is about this country."

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 10:54 a.m. No.19876503   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19876497

SHUT IT DOWN!

General Flynn says Q is a major psyop being run by Traitor Faggots

 

https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1714872285482405924

UltraMJTruth@MJTruthUltra

A lot of people sent me this heated exchange between General Flynn & Dave from X22 and asked for my opinion.

I don’t see anyone else talking about this, so I will.

First, General Flynn is 100% correct:

• Our military abides by the US Constitution

• Our military acts on the…

Oct 17

 

General Mike Flynn@GenFlynn

Here’s my take on Q…

I believe it is a major psyop and from what I can tell, it or they or whatever or whoever is “running this op” has done a major disservice.

What I see are a bunch of people sitting and waiting for something to happen instead of doing what I have been calling for now for quite some time (LOCAL ACTION).

The nonsense about trump is still the president and the military is coming to the rescue is just that…nonsense.

I wasn’t belittling Dave (he’s a big boy), I was being brutally honest (like it or not or believe it or not).

Rome is burning Nero and the bucket brigade is getting low on water.

And like it or not (I don’t), we have a person in the WH that is there following a constitutional process…note I didn’t say fair election (which I don’t believe occurred).

Lastly, I so respect your smart statement and most definitely appreciate your support as well as Dave’s (I’m a big fan of X22).

I also appreciate the support by many of the digital soldiers who did and do support me.

Thank you will never be enough. However, I want us to face reality for what it is and it is staring us in the face currently and it is ugly.

But never ever give up and trust me, there will always be silver linings, we just have to find them and exploit them as soon and for as long as possible.

God bless

@MJTruthUltra

🦅🙏🏼🇺🇸

1:13 AM · Oct 19, 2023

https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1714872285482405924

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 10:56 a.m. No.19876506   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19876499

ANONS MOST RECENT Q

 

Q DROP #4799

Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 09/30/2020 23:52:42 ID: 376386 4799

8kun/qresearch: 10864489

Anonymous 09/30/2020 23:43:23 ID:39774c

8kun/qresearch: 10864305

 

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Rebuffed by Vatican, Pompeo Assails China and Aligns With Pope’s Critics

Pope Francis declined to see Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is demanding a harder Vatican line on China. The Holy See said meeting just before a U.S. election would be inappropriate.

By Jason Horowitz and Lara Jakes

Sept. 30, 2020, 7:26 p.m. ET

 

ROME — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo recently published a sharp letter excoriating the Vatican’s plans to renew an agreement with the Chinese government on Church operations in China. He promoted the article in a tweet, concluding, “The Vatican endangers its moral authority, should it renew the deal.”

 

An indignant Vatican took the article more as a calculated affront than a diplomatic gesture. The friction broke into the open on Wednesday as Mr. Pompeo arrived in Rome and met with prelates and others who are hostile to Pope Francis, while the Vatican denied him a meeting with the pontiff and rebuffed his efforts to derail the deal with China.

 

“Pompeo asked to meet” the pope, who turned him down because Francis had “clearly said that he does not receive political figures ahead of the elections,” Cardinal Pietro Parolin, who, as secretary of state, is the Vatican’s second-ranking official, told reporters.

 

But to some observers on both sides of the tensions between the Roman Catholic Church and the Trump administration, Mr. Pompeo’s visit is as much about the coming presidential election as about China policy. Mr. Pompeo dismissed that suggestion as absurd, but intended or not, his trip signals that President Trump is on the side of those conservative American Catholics who worry about the church’s direction under Francis and think he is soft on China.

 

Francis and Mr. Trump, who have exchanged sharp words in the past, present starkly different visions on issues ranging from the environment to immigration to the threat of populism. In appealing to the Vatican’s support for religious freedom as a reason to drop its China agreement, Mr. Pompeo seemed to seek common ground, but in a way that upset the pope’s chief allies and delighted his chief critics.

 

Cardinal Parolin said Mr. Pompeo’s article had caused “surprise” at the Vatican, because this visit to Rome by the secretary and the meetings with high officials at the Holy See had already been in the works and would have been a “more opportune” forum for airing grievances. He added that Mr. Pompeo’s choice to publish in First Things, a conservative Christian magazine that has called Francis a failure as Pope, also mattered.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/world/europe/pompeo-pope-francis-china.html

 

>>10864305

When does a Church become a playground?

When does a Church become a business?

When does a Church become political?

When does a Church become corrupt?

When does a Church become willfully blind?

When does a Church become controlled?

Q

 

==OH WAIT! The re up of the "Secret Vatican China Accord" was breaking right when POTUS started yelling "CHINA CHINA CHINA FLU WUHAN FLU CHINA CHINA CHINA!".==

 

For 2 weeks anon tried to get this into notes.

POTUS just screaming Wuhan China!

No BAKER would note it.

None… Except maybe Gerb! Love you Punk! No Homo!

 

Understand?

 

and right when anon is whooping the piss out of a fucking blatant Neo Nazi allowed not only to bake but BV HERE!

Q drops down and Q's Anon…

 

OSS was fucking livid…

It was GloriousAF and still is.

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 10:58 a.m. No.19876512   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Imagine Karens desperation…

Karen thinks that controlling notes or even all of Qresearch will maybe stop what is coming!

kek!

 

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'''Timeline - 2018 to 2021 - the first 3 years of Q research from 4chan 8kun'''

Former Board Owner Fast Jack is a Neo Nazi

Former Board Volunteer and Baker OSS is a Neo Nazi

Former Baker and OSS acolyte Animefagbaker is a Neo Nazi

OSS and Animefag were open about their Nazi tendencies yet one had to lurk into admin boards to find Fast Jack expressing his Nazi hatred of The Jewish Race via muh joo "kike, fucking kikes, all kikes should die" etc etc.

Neither Jim nor Codemonkey ever expressed having any Problems or Concerns with this Fact. In fact, Laughter was the common response.

Notable: most of the time Annie nom'med most of this anons shit so Annie may have been a friendly plant. It's hard to tell so guess we will find out in the end.

Notable: Little shill bitches just love to pretend that their muh joo shilling is why SPAM now… kek

 

FYI:

Neo Nazi's tend to be Catholic and/or Christian. Hitler was a confirmed Catholic yet this fact is hidden in History.

Neo Nazi's see themselves as "Defenders of the Faith" so any appeals to Logic and Reason versus Dogma are seen as personal attacks.

Neo Nazi's are not here to help or otherwise promote Q or Anons. They see Q as simply a vehicle where they will inject their ideology, grift and attempt to steer the flow of information.

Neo Nazi's wish to appear very PRO CHILDREN, ANTI ABORTION & PRO RELIGION yet many have been found to be quite the opposite and simply hiding behind Religion in order to spread their Hate, Evil.

Neo Nazi's are fond of Catholicism because Catholicism, like Christianity, has Racism built in. See: Good Friday Prayer for the Faithless Jews.

Neo Nazi's are attracted to POTUS because they believe POTUS is a racist, albeit secretly, and will thus promote policies which they agree with.

Neo Nazi's strive to get into command and control positions CCP as they believe that their influence can alter the outcome of the Plan!

Neo Nazi's have a powerful foothold in former Axis Power Japan.

Neo Nazi's from /pol/ make up the bulk of the Neo Nazis on Kun.

Neo Nazi's, like Law Enforcement, like to use the symbolism of St. Michael.

Neo Nazi's are funded by Soros. Soros, of course, takes orders from the "Eye of Providence" drop #133.

 

MORE FYI:

MUH JOO bots ran on 50-75 posts per bread.

MUH JOO shill team 6 ran the Kitchen most of the time.

MUH JOO bakers loved P = Payseur, Inthematrixxx MG SHOW > Karli Bonne > Steve Bannon > Alex Jones > Jack Posobiec > Flynn et al.

MUH JOO bakers would let anything ANTI POPE FRANCIS in notes but they would fight fiercly to keep out any true criticism of the Vatican/Roman Catholic Church. Francis must be the Fall Guy.

MUH JOO bakers had to be pinned down in order for them to note the Vatican atrocities that were being exposed daily.

Q had to step in and Q these hard articles as these "Bakers" would flatly refuse. Split the bread, delete notes et al. they did everything in their power to stop the flow of Information.

Q Drop #4799 is one of these Drops. Read it. Anon was fighting with OSS late one night when Q Q'ed anon. MJ Fakers refused to note Pompeo's trip to the Vatican. Q saw it. Q knows…

Right when POTUS was blaming "CHINA WUHAN" daily for the Virus, these clowns were trying to hide and obscure the Fact that the Vatican had and was renewing a Condordat with China.

 

What does MUH JOO mean?

A MUH JOO shill is someone who believes or pretends to believe that the Jewish race and/or religion is responsible for most if not all atrocities ever committed.

A MUH JOO shill believes Hitler was a pretty cool dude.

A MUH JOO shill believes Palestine is the good guy in the Israel - Palestine conflict.

A MUH JOO shill does not like to consider radical islam Iran as the potential main agitator in the Israel - Palestine conflict.

A MUH JOO shill desires to believe that no matter all the power in Europe that the Bauer Rothschild family (Knights of Malta) subdued Europe via Banking. No really.

A MUH JOO shill believes that it was easy to see that it was the JOO this whole time and that does not bother them at all… that is was "easy to see".

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 10:58 a.m. No.19876516   🗄️.is 🔗kun

POTUS recently stated that he has learned a lot fromBad Past Advisors

The following information is this Anon's current opinion based upon the Personal History of these individuals and what the Drops seems to indicate.

 

RetruthsJack Posobiec

Posobiec appears to have been Flipped yet his History will not be forgotten.

There are multiple Q posts specifically about the "at that time, apparent" Traitor Jack Posobiec…

 

RetruthsSteve Bannon

Sloppy Begs Bad Steve Bannon cried like a dog when POTUS fired him < POTUS own words.

Steve Bannon says that "Alex Jones is the greatest political thinker of this century".

There are Multiple Q posts concerning the Traitor Alex Jones.

Steve Bannon was pardoned by POTUS after stealing money from Patriots via a "Build the Wall" fundraiser.

Bannon appears to have been Flipped yet his History will not be forgotten.

 

RetruthsGeneral Flynn

Alex Jones and Flynn spent an entire show putting POTUS down for his actions on Jan 06. "RECKLESS".

Flynn ended the show with "I could be the worst nightmare to a guy like Trump".

Alex Jones has stated several times that POTUS must be one of the most evil people on the planet for allowing the Vax and pushing Warp Speed.

Flynn called for One Religion in the United States which is without a doubt, division by Religion.

There are multiple Q posts warning Anons specifically about Alex Jones and Associates.

 

Retruths/retweetsTaylor MarshallandArchbishop Vigano

Both Vigano and Taylor Marshall turned on POTUS over POTUS' LGBTQ party at Mar a Lago. December 22 2022.

Vigano, Taylor Marshall and George Neumayr simultaneously attacked POTUS over his stance on LGBTQ which they knew about years ago.

Taylor Marshall went so far as to suggest Romans Chapter 1 says that anyone who condones the LGBTQ lifestyle is Worthy of Death.

Taylor went on to suggest that a Catholic Monarchy in the United States is the only way to solve the U.S. political problems.

 

RetruthsKarli Bonneof '''Inthematrixxx P = Payseur and Midnight Rider fame'''.

There are multiple Q posts concerning P and [P] and none of them seem to suggest anything other than the Pope/Papacy/Pontifex.

There are multiple Q posts concerning and condemning those who Profit off of this movement.

There are multiple Q posts warning Anons to be "Careful who you follow."

There are multiple Q posts warning Anons specifically about Alex Jones and Associates.

 

Yet==Jeffy Pederson Karli Bonne > INTHEMATRIXXX > The MG Show==claim to fame was the story told by the Alex Jones Associate Fritz Springmeier aka Viktor Schoof > P = Payseur.

Also of note is the FACT that David Icke, another long time friend and Associate of Alex Jones, also mentions the Payseur tale.

Search the drops for the name Payseur and it becomes quite obvious that Q acknowledged the Question yet never followed up on it again and Q has never said Payseur… no more clues, hints nothing…

Oddly enough, in a drop concerning the Guardians of the Pope, Q named the Owl Image "Guardian_P". Isn't that an amazing coincidence?

 

Of special note is the FACT that it took Alex Jones 13-14 years to finally "investigate" the Vatican and when he did, he went to Italy to join a Guide.

This guide told Alex about some of the lesser Vatican crimes to which Alex was always "shocked" and "surprised" concerning as if Alex knew nearly nothing about the Vatican previously.

Maybe Alex Jones does "work" for more than Mossad? as per the drops.

One thing Anons may learn is that many of these "pro maga" and "pro Q" people, really do not seem to like the drops.

 

But wait! There is so much more!

 

Other notable Luminaries on "Our Side" include:

Tucker Carlson - Good friends with Hunter Biden who wrote Tucker's son Buckley a letter trying to help Buckley gain admission into the Catholic Jesuit Georgetown University.

Rush Limbaugh - Neo Con (Rino) piece of shit is what Rush was. Rush backed the Neocon Bush Regime 100%.

Roger Stone - Pffffffft!

Sebastion Gorka - There are Drops concerning Sebastion and his Wife. "Q is garbage!".

Ted Cruz - Just stop it!

Fox News in general because POTUS twatted and retruthed Fox much more than any other MSM - Do you think Rupert Murdoch is Jewish and thats the end of the story? Papal Knight? Hires 90%+ "Catholics"?

Steven Miller - bwahahahahahahahahaah!

Dinesh - muahahahahahahahahahahahah!

 

POTUS MOST KEK ENDORSEMENTS

Ron Desanctimonious

Lindsey Graham

Mitch McConnell

 

Update:

Dan Scavino recently posted "P" in the context of "President".

Maybe Dan should read Drop #1413, 1950 and 1951?

Let an Anon know if you need those drops decoded!

kek

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 10:59 a.m. No.19876521   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19876319

PLEASE UPDATE DOUGH, PATRIOT!

ROGER!

o7

5:5

 

 

International Q Research Threads

>>19487470 ——–——– Australia #32

>>19601701 ——–——– Canada #47

>>16694358 ——–——– France #7

>>18551332 ——–——– Germany #105

>>19529888 ——–——– Japan #18

>>16694250 ——–——– Nederland #10

>>17784579 ——–——– QAJF #1

>>17352350 ——–——– Scotland #8

>>19636057 ——–——– South Africa #12

>>18158921 ——–——– UK #50

 

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ANON GLOBALS

Every Idea is a Rough Draft until blood is being shed over it… Some Anon

Q research proudly presentsThe Global Notables Project Version 1.0

A collection of Q team, POTUS and Anon's greatest hits, best digs, hardest hitting decodes and other crazy coincidences from 2017 to 2023.

 

Top 10 List"Decodes and Drops"

1: The "Eye of Providence" decode. Q drop #133.

2: The "Satan does not exist" drop. Q drop #133.

3: The "Alien" drops. Q drop #376, 2222, 2225 and 4966.

4: The "OWL/Y Head" decode. Q drop #192, 135, 136, 137 and 138.

5: The "Purge" drops. Godfather III Sig. Q drop #87 , 88, 95 and 3565.

6: The "Our Father, Who financed 9-11?" decode. Q drop #154, 306, 307 and 308.

7: The "Saviors" drop list from the "Nothing" drops. Q drop #111, 114 and 2442.

8: The "Nothing is going to stop what is coming" drops. Q drop #111, 114, 2442, 4845, 4874, 4944 and 4950.

9: The '''"Nazi C_A > Vatican" Crazy Coincidences Collection. Q drop #851, 936, 938, 944, 1941, 1954 and 4654'''.

10: The "Free Thought = The Great Awakening" drops. Q drop #1926, 2171, 3038, 3613, 3721, 3858, 3905, 3906, 4491, 4535, 4553, 4602 and the "Precipice" at 4408.

 

Top 10 List"Friend or Foe?"

1: Alex Jones

2: General Flynn

3: Steve Bannon

4: Roger Stone

5: REDACTED FOR YOUR PROTECTION

6: Tucker Carlson

7: Elon Musk

8: Roman Catholic Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano and minion Taylor Marshall

9: Jack Posobiec

10: [you] unless you repent

Disclaimer: Being on the above list does not mean that this player is a [Foe].

Being on the above list means that these players have made moves on the stage which make them appear and seem like Foes at least in the eyes of some Anons and/or Q per the drops.

If a player on the above list is actually a ]Friend[ attempting to appear as a [Foe], or is an actual [Foe], it is in the Interest of the Plan to highlight their actions either way.

Only Concernfags are concerned about Friendly Fire from Anons. Just like the MSM was terribly concerned about Patriots having "crazy theories" concerning 9-11.

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:03 a.m. No.19876534   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6543

>>19876466

Anon's next piece is called "Ode to Elon".

 

Feb 11, 2018 3:37:17 PM EST 725

Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: ec346b No. 339775

Feb 11, 2018 3:25:02 PM EST

Anonymous ID: ba6ded No. 339583

 

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NK is a CIA Blacksite

OP:MKBRD is a CIA Media control

 

Who in the media right now is GLORIFYING NK to spite the Trump Admin?

 

Time to take the offensive. Lets start taking names of all journalists that propagate NK. Lets not let them hide behind their banners anymore.

 

Let's play HUNT THE SPOOK

>>339583

Ask yourself, why is NK participating in the O-games this year?

Ask yourself, why is the 'sister' w/ Pence?

Ask yourself, if controlled, how might you protect yourself and look for a way out?

Ask yourself, what is a distraction?

Ask yourself, why did Korea come together as a country v N&S?

Ask yourself, what occurred in Asia (ref pics) just prior to the O-games?

Ask yourself, what does FREED mean?

Ask yourself, do we want a WAR?

Ask yourself, who is trying to start a WAR?

Ask yourself, if a missile was launched by rogue actors, what would be the purpose?

Ask yourself, what would/should immediately start a WAR?

Ask yourself, would the PUBLIC understand the following statement: "Rogue actors (Clowns/US former heads of State) initiated a missile launch in order to 'force' the US into a WAR/conflict againstX?"

Be the autists we know you are.

Those who cannot understand that we cannot simply start arresting w/o first ensuring the safety & well-being of the population, shifting the narrative, removing those in DC through resignation to ensure success, defeating ISIS/MS13 to prevent fail-safes, freezing assets to remove network-to-network abilities, kill off COC to prevent top-down comms/org, etc etc. should not be participating in discussions.

Q

 

 

Dec 23, 2017 1:53:22 AM EST 442

Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 78f9ff No. 154583

Dec 23, 2017 1:46:21 AM EST

Anonymous ID: 50e089 No. 154493

Dec 23, 2017 1:44:16 AM EST

Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 78f9ff No. 154468

>>154372

What rocket fired today?

[i]

Message sent.

Q

 

2017-12-23 00_46_02-Elon Musk on Twitter_ _Nuclear alien UFO from North Korea https___t.co_GUIHpKkkp.png

 

>>154468

>>154493

Message back.

UFO put out to detract from drops.

Q

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:23 a.m. No.19876610   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Nuns Raped Girls With Crucifixes as Female Pedophilia Was Covered Up by the ChurchUNFORGIVEABLE Oct. 05, 2021

A horrifying report on the extent of clerical sex abuse in France has sent shock waves through the Catholic Church. But will it change anything?

ROME — “Marie” was placed in a French Catholic boarding school for “young girls from good families” when she was in the fifth grade.

She remembers a nun who would come to her class every day to choose a student to help her with Mass. But the nun wasn’t looking for someone to help her. She was looking for a victim.

 

“I was 11 and looked 9. She would choose me once every two or three times,” she recalls. “She would take me to her office, lock the door, and then draw the curtains.

After which she would put me on her knees to make me read the gospel according to Saint Paul or another saint, while she squeezed me with one hand to her chest and pulled down my panties with the other hand.

We were of course in pleated skirts and not in pants. It terrified me and paralyzed.”

 

“Marie” couldn’t talk to her devout Catholic parents about the abuse until a friend convinced her to do so. The result, she says, was catastrophic. “You are really a pervert, a vicious liar.

How dare you say such things?” her parents told her. In fact, her parents had told the nuns that she was being sent to boarding school because she needed to be tamed.

“I was truly [a gift] for this nun… because she knew full well that she did not risk anything.”

 

The abuse lasted the whole year. At the age of 35, “Marie” told her mother again about the abuse. “My mother blissfully told me that it was impossible for a nun to whom she entrusted her daughter to abuse a girl,” she says.

“Female pedophilia exists and unfortunately the media never talk about it.”

 

“Marie” was certainly not alone. Dozens of other victims of priests, nuns, and Catholic school personnel in France form the basis of a 2,500-page report released Tuesday by a special commission led by Jean-Marc Sauvé.

While 80 percent of the victims were young boys between the ages of 10 and 13, many young girls were abused as well, and not only by priests. Nuns used crucifixes to rape little girls or forced boys to have sex with them, too.

 

The commission spent nearly three years combing through complaints and press reports and interviewing victims going back to the 1950s.

Of the 3,000 abusers identified by the commission, two-thirds are priests.

They found that priests and nuns alone abused around 216,000 children, but that the number climbs to 330,000 when they counted abuse at the hands of non-clergy who worked in Catholic schools and other institutions.

The report only covers minors; the authors, who include scholars, psychologists, and law enforcement officials, say there could be many young men and women over the age of 18 who were also victims.

 

Their summary is damning, determining that the Catholic Church in France showed “a deep, cruel indifference toward victims.”

Only 22 of the thousands of cases of criminal pedophilia qualify under French law for legal action.

More than 40 cases that are past the statutes of limitations have been forwarded to the French Catholic Church in hopes that the perpetrators will be punished. On average, each perpetrator abused 70 children. The president of the French Conference of Bishops, Eric de Moulins-Beaufort, said the church is “appalled” by the report. “I wish on that day to ask for pardon, pardon to each of you,” he told the victims. Pope Francis also expressed “sorrow” over the findings, saying he will pray for those affected. “His first thoughts are with the victims, with great sadness for their wounds,” Francis said in a statement through his press office, adding that he hoped the French church would now “undertake a way of redemption.”

 

Survivor Francois Devaux, who founded the victims' group La Parole Liberee, attended the presentation of the report. “You are a disgrace to our humanity,” he said, addressing the church as a whole.

“In this hell, there have been abominable mass crimes… but there has been even worse: betrayal of trust, betrayal of morale, betrayal of children.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nuns-raped-girls-with-crucifixes-as-female-pedophilia-was-covered-up-by-the-church

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:24 a.m. No.19876613   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6656

German Nuns Sold Orphaned Children to Sexual PredatorsSICK SISTERS Feb. 02, 2021

A report German authorities tried to silence shows how Catholic nuns peddled orphaned boys to predatory priests and perverts for decades.

ROME — A jarring report outlining decades of rampant child sex abuse at the hands of greedy nuns and perverted priests paints a troubling picture of systematic abuse in the German church.

 

The report is the byproduct of a lawsuit alleging that orphaned boys living in the boarding houses of the Order of the Sisters of the Divine Redeemer were sold or loaned for weeks at a time to predatory priests and businessmen in a sick rape trade.

The men involved in the lawsuit say as boys they were denied being adopted out or sent to foster families because selling them for rape lined the sisters’ coffers for their “convent of horrors.” Some of the boys were then groomed to be sex slaves to perverts, the report claims.

 

The alleged abuse went on for years, with one of the males claiming the nuns even frequently visited their college dorms after they had left the convent.

He said the nuns often drugged him and delivered him to predators’ apartments. The Order of Sisters of the Divine Redeemer did not answer multiple requests for comment about the allegations.

 

A second lawsuit, first reported by Deutsche Welle last year, comes after a separate case against the German church led by 63-year-old Karl Haucke who demanded the Archdiocese of Cologne carry out a full investigation into clerical sex crimes, which it concluded in January 2021.

But the details of that investigative report were so horrific that Archbishop Reiner Maria Woelki refused to make it public, demanding that any journalists who see it sign confidentiality agreements.

Eight German journalists walked out of a press conference in January after being denied access to the church’s investigation unless they agreed not to publish its contents.

 

Haucke says he was abused at least once a week between the ages of 11 and 14, often by more than one priest. “We had no words to describe what was being done to us.

Nor did we know what it meant. And it did not stop at physical pain. We had a clear sense of humiliation and being used,” he told Deutsche Welle when the report was due to be released.

He called the stifling of the report's release in January “scandalous” and said that denying the journalists the right to publish the report was “like being abused all over again.”

 

Several lawyers with access to the 560-page report on the nuns have shared segments with news outlets, including The Daily Beast.

The report names various German businessmen and complicit clergy who “rented” the young boys from the nuns who ran a convent in Speyer, Germany between the 1960s and 1970s.

Among the worst instances of abuse were gang bangs and orgies the young boys were forced to participate in before being returned to the convent where the nuns would then punish them for wrinkling their clothing or being covered in semen.

“Bishop Karl-Heinz Wiesmann, who now leads the archdiocese, said that the abuse report was ‘so gory’ it would be too shocking to make public.”

 

Haucke, who led a victims' group until he resigned over the censoring of the report, says Woelki told them in October 2020 that the report was not “legally watertight” and contained “inadmissible prejudices” against the Catholic church that were fed by scandals going on elsewhere.

“The survivors were used again,” he said, referring to their cooperation in the report only to have it kept private. “People who have already been damaged in their lives by clergymen are being damaged again to protect the institution.”

 

The lawsuits also spawned a survey within religious orders that found that 1,412 people who lived in or frequented convents, parishes, and monasteries were abused as children, teenagers, and wards by at least 654 monks, nuns, and other members of the orders.

Around 80 percent of the victims surveyed were male and 20 percent female. The survey also found that 80 percent of the abusers are now dead, and 37 had left the priesthood or religious order.

 

The Archdiocese of Cologne told The Daily Beast in a statement that the reason the report was not published was that it failed to fully explain the methodology of the research, but Bishop Karl-Heinz Wiesmann, who now leads the archdiocese, said that the abuse report was“so gory”it would be too shocking to make public.

Wiesemann told the Catholic News Agency KNA that after reading it he had to take a month's sabbatical to recover. “I too have limited energy for the burdens I have to carry,” he said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/german-nuns-sold-orphaned-children-to-sexual-predators-says-report

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:24 a.m. No.19876614   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Nuns used crucifixes to rape girls during decades of abuse carried out by clergy in France's Catholic Church that saw attacks on 330,000 children covered up 'by a veil of silence', damning report finds5 October 2021 PI

Pope Francis expressed to the victims his 'great sorrow, for their wounds'

An estimated 330,000 children were victims of sex abuse in France since 1950

Scale of the number of attacks was covered up for decades by a 'veil of silence'

Report was released Tuesday after after two-and-a-half-years of investigations

 

Nuns used crucifixes to rape girls during decades of abuse carried out by clergy in France's Catholic Church that saw attacks on 330,000 children covered up 'by a veil of silence', a damning report has found.

The 2,500-page landmark report was released Tuesday after more than two years of investigations by an independent commission, in France's first major reckoning with the devastating phenomenon.

 

A victim named 'Marie' testified that she was abused as an 11-year-old and that when she complained about the abuse to her parents they refused to believe a nun could do such a thing. The abuse continued for another year.

'I was truly [a gift] for this nun… because she knew full well that she did not risk anything,' Marie said.

 

Eighty per cent of victims were young boys between the ages of 10 and 13, however many girls also suffered abuse, not only by priests but also by nuns.

Pope Francis today expressed to the victims his 'great sorrow, for their wounds', adding that he was grateful for the courage they had shown in denouncing what they had been through.

 

The investigation found that an estimated 330,000 children were victims of sex abuse within France's Catholic Church between 1950 to 2020, with an estimated 216,000 people abused by priests and other clerics.

'We can see how systemic it was … with an estimated number of 216,000 victims,' Savignac told Reuters, adding that the Church could not have ignored something of that magnitude.

'It's an earthquake, a hurricane, a tsunami … when you see these numbers, it's so damning that no one can stay in denial, whether the Catholic Church or society as a whole,' he added.

 

At least 330,000 children were sexually abused in France's Catholic Church over the last 70 years, a damning report has found. Pictured: The head of France's Catholic bishops conference, Eric de Moulins-Beaufort

A statement from the Vatican said: 'First of all [the Pope's] thoughts go to the victims, with great sorrow, for their wounds.'

 

The commission that compiled the report urged compensation for victims and strong action from the church, denouncing 'faults' and 'silence'.

The president of the commission that issued the report, Jean-Marc Sauvé, said the estimate, based on scientific research, includes abuses committed by priests and others clerics as well as by non-religious people involved in the church.

The report says an estimated 3,000 'criminal paedophiles' - two-thirds of them priests - have preyed on hundreds of thousands of mainly young boys who were at Catholic schools and other institutions.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10059827/Major-report-expose-sex-abuse-Frances-Catholic-Church.html

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:25 a.m. No.19876620   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Nuns used crucifixes to rape girls during decades of abuse carried out by clergy in France's Catholic Church that saw attacks on 330,000 children covered up 'by a veil of silence', damning report finds5 October 2021 PII

Some 86 per cent of victims were male children - many of whom did not report the abuse they suffered for decades.

Sauvé said the overall figure of victims includes an estimated 216,000 people abused by priests and other clerics.

 

The independent inquiry covered alleged sex abuse of minors by French Catholic priests, deacons and other clergy since 1950, and found the abuse was a 'massive phenomenon' that was covered up for decades by a 'veil of silence.'

The 2,500-page landmark report was released Tuesday after more than two years of investigations by an independent commission. Pictured: Commission president Jean-Marc Sauve (left), hands copies of the report to Catholic Bishop Eric de Moulins-Beaufort (right)

The 2,500-page document comes as the Catholic Church in France, like in other countries, seeks to face up to shameful secrets that were long covered up and follows widespread outrage over a string of paedophilia claims and prosecutions against Church officials worldwide.

 

Véronique Margron, President of the Conference of Religious People of France and a nun, spoke of 'crimes against humanity'.

'Can we deal with this disaster?' asked Sister Margron, who said sexual abuse in the Church amounted to 'crimes against humanity'.

She added: 'How do we overcome this? I do not know. We have not even finished reviewing everything.

 

The commission issued 45 recommendations about how to prevent abuse. These included training priests and other clerics, revising Canon Law - the legal code the Vatican uses to govern the church - and fostering policies to recognize and compensate victims, Sauvé said.

The report comes after a scandal surrounding now-defrocked priest Bernard Preynat rocked the French Catholic Church. Last year, Preynat was convicted of sexually abusing minors and given a five-year prison sentence. He acknowledged abusing more than 75 boys for decades.

The church must not only acknowledge events but also compensate victims, Devaux said. 'It is indispensable that the church redresses the harm caused by all these crimes, and (financial) compensation is the first step.'

The Preynat case led to the resignation last year of the former archbishop of Lyon, Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, who has been accused of failing to report the abuses to civil authorities when he learned about them in the 2010s. France´s highest court ruled earlier this year that Barbarin did not cover up the case.

 

French archbishops, in a message to parishioners read during Sunday Mass across the country, said the publication of the report is 'a test of truth and a tough and serious moment.'

'We will receive and study these conclusions to adapt our actions,' the message said. 'The fight against pedophilia concerns all of us … Our support and our prayers will keep going toward all the people who have been abused within the church.'

 

Pope Francis issued in May 2019 a groundbreaking new church law requiring all Catholic priests and nuns around the world to report clergy sexual abuse and cover-ups by their superiors to church authorities.

In June, Francis swiftly rejected an offer from Cardinal Reinhard Marx, one of Germany's most prominent clerics and a close papal adviser, to resign as archbishop of Munich and Freising over the church´s mishandling of abuse cases.

But he said a process of reform was necessary and every bishop must take responsibility for the 'catastrophe' of the crisis.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10059827/Major-report-expose-sex-abuse-Frances-Catholic-Church.html

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:26 a.m. No.19876624   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Nuns pimped out boys to priests and politicians who would rape the children as other men watched at German children's home, it emerges as victim wins compensation battle22 December 2020

The victim, now 63, was just five when he joined the children's home in Speyer

He said he was raped around 1,000 times before leaving the home in 1972. Darmstaft Social Welfare Court awarded the man with compensation over abuse

 

Catholic nuns running a children's home in Germany pimped out boys to priests, politicians and businessmen who would rape the children at sex parties, according to a victim who has won a compensation battle.

Darmstaft Social Welfare Court awarded the man, now 63, compensation after he detailed how nuns dragged him to be abused by priests and powerful men at parties, starting at age five. They paid the women for doing so.

 

The victim, who remains anonymous, said he was raped around 1,000 times during his time at the home in the 1960s and 70s, alongside other boys.

The court ruled on the case in May but the latest abuse scandal for the Catholic church only came to light this month after a senior clergyman spoke publicly.

The Bishop of Speyer, Karl-Heinz Wiesemann publicly named former official of the diocese Rudolf Motzenbäcker, who died in 1998, as being allegedly involved in the abuse. The bishop said three further victims have since come forward.

 

The abuse victim was just five when he joined the home run by the Order of the Sisters of the Divine Saviour in the German city of Speyer in March 1963.

 

The victim said he was 'literally dragged' by the nuns to Motzenbäcker's apartment to be sexually abused, reports Der Spiegel. They would beat him when he resisted.

The man, who was an alter boy at the Speyer Cathedral, said he was assigned the priest as a confessor.

 

The victim said visitors to the children's home would abuse him at 'sex parties'.

It was here that he said the nuns would pass youngsters aged between seven and 14 to clergymen, local politicians and businessmen.

'The nuns were pimps,' he said. If they disobeyed they would be beaten with sticks or have their heads smashed against the wall.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9078857/Nuns-pimped-boys-German-childrens-home-priests-politicians-rape-them.html

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:26 a.m. No.19876626   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6633

Pope Francis expresses 'shame' at news French Catholic Church covered up sex abuse of over 300,000 childrenOctober 07, 2021

 

POPE FRANCIS spoke of his "sadness" for hundreds of thousands of victims of child sex abuse carried out by clergy in France's Catholic Church.

The pontiff expressed personal shame at the sheer scale of the attacks, which are thought to have been carried out on around 330,000 children between 1950 and 2020.

A damning 2,500-page report, which was released on Tuesday, found that nuns used crucifixes to rape young girls during decades of abuse which was covered up by a 'veil of silence'.

 

" I wish to express to the victims my sadness and pain for the trauma they have suffered," Francis said during his weekly audience at the Vatican on Wednesday.

"And also, my shame, our shame, my shame, for the inability of the Church for too long to put them at the centre of its concerns.

"I pray and we all pray together - to you Lord the glory, to us the same. This is the time for shame."

 

The report found that the 'vast majority' of victims were pre-pubescent boys from a variety of social backgrounds. In total, an estimated 216,000 boys were sexually abused over the 70 year stretch.

80% of the victims were boys aged between 10 and 13. Their abusers were mainly priests, monks and deacons.

 

A victim named 'Marie' testified that she was abused by a nun as an 11-year-old, and that when she complained to her parents, they refused to believed that a nun would be capable of such behaviour. As such, the abuse continued for another year.

"I was 11, and looked 9. She would choose me once every two or three times," recalls Marie.

"She would take me to her office, lock the door, and then draw the curtains. After which she would put me on her knees to make me read the gospel according to Saint Paul or another saint, while she squeezed me with one hand to her chest and pulled down my panties with the other hand.

"It terrified me. [I was] paralysed."

"I was truly [a gift] for this nun… because she knew full well that she didn't risk anything."

 

Two years of investigative work went in to the report, which has uncovered a devastatingly shameful core of the French Catholic Church, and the findings have prompted ripples of outrage throughout the world.

https://www.irishpost.com/news/pope-francis-expresses-shame-at-news-french-catholic-church-covered-up-sex-abuse-of-over-300000-children-221410

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:27 a.m. No.19876629   🗄️.is 🔗kun

SHOCKING REPORT Nuns used crucifixes to rape girls during decades of abuse by French clergy, with 330,000 victims covered upOct 5 2021

Victims of abuse within France's Catholic Church welcomed a new report which estimated that hundreds of thousands of kids were sexually abused over the past 70 years.

The figure includes abuses committed by some 3,000 priests and an unknown number of other people involved in the church.

The report found that nuns used crucifixes to rape girls or force boys to have sex with them.

The wrongdoing was covered up by Catholic authorities covered up over decades, according to the president of the commission that issued the report, Jean-Marc Sauvé.

 

Victims welcomed the report as long overdue and the head of the French bishops' conference asked for their forgiveness.

The report said the tally of 330,000 victims includes an estimated 216,000 people abused by priests and other clerics, and the rest by church figures such as scout leaders or camp counselors.

The estimates are based on a broader research by France's National Institute of Health and Medical Research into sexual abuse of children in the country.

The study's authors estimate 80 per cent of the church's victims were boys.

The independent commission urged the church to take strong action. It also called on the Catholic Church to help compensate the victims, notably in cases that are too old to prosecute via French courts.

"We consider the church has a debt towards victims," Sauvé said.

 

Pope Francis expressed his "great sorrow" to the victims "for their wounds" today.

 

Two of those victims, Martine, 73, and Mireille, 71, were sexually assaulted by a priest when they were teenage girls in high school.

"It brings on such terrible thoughts," Martine said. "For me, personally, I had to wait for my parents to die because otherwise she said it was not possible to speak out."

"I think that each victim experienced it as if they were the only one (victim), and thats part of this phenomenon involving control and secrecy," Mireille said.

"We are in a condition of submission… in a mental captivity. So, we follow this person who suddenly takes power over us… We are caught in a spider web."

 

The commission worked for two-and-a-half years, listening to victims and witnesses and studying church, court, police and news archives starting from the 1950s.

Sauvé said: "Sometimes church officials did not denounce (the sex abuses) and even exposed children to risks by putting them in contact with predators."

 

The president of the Conference of Bishops of France, Eric de Moulins-Beaufort, said French bishops are appalled at the conclusions of the report.

"I wish on that day to ask for pardon, pardon to each of you," he told the victims.

"No one expected such a high number (of victims) to come out of the survey and that is properly frightening and out of proportion with the perception that we've had on the ground."

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3798829/nuns-crucifixes-rape-girls-france-catholic-church/

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:27 a.m. No.19876632   🗄️.is 🔗kun

French Catholic church expresses ‘shame’ after report finds 330,000 children were abused5 Oct 2021

Church asks for forgiveness as it accepts findings of ‘appalling’ abuse by clergy and lay members over 70 years

The French Catholic church has expressed “shame” and pleaded for forgiveness, after a devastating report found that at least 330,000 children were victims of sexual abuse by clergy and lay members of church institutions over the past 70 years.

 

The publication of the landmark report on Thursday, France’s first major reckoning with what the Catholic church accepted was “appalling” abuse, has shaken the country with its horrific findings of a “massive phenomenon” of sexual abusers of children operating for decades within the church and its associated institutions.

 

The two-and-a-half-year independent inquiry found that staggering numbers of children were subjected to sexual violence by priests and clergy while the crimes were covered up in a “systemic way” by a deliberate “veil of silence” in the church.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/05/french-catholic-priests-abused-children-report

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:28 a.m. No.19876634   🗄️.is 🔗kun

New Report Finds 330,000 Children Abused in French Catholic Church Over 70 Years

The final report said that “most of the victims were pre-adolescent boys from all social backgrounds.”

Presenting the report, Jean-Marc Sauvé, president of CIASE, said: “While, in absolute and relative terms, these acts of violence were in decline up until the early 1990s, they have since stopped decreasing.”

 

“The Catholic Church is the place where the prevalence of sexual violence is at its highest, other than in family and friend circles.”

 

“Faced with this scourge, for a very long time the Catholic Church’s immediate reaction was to protect itself as an institution and it has shown complete, even cruel, indifference to those having suffered abuse.”

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/new-report-finds-330-000-children-abused-in-french-catholic-church-over-70-years

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:29 a.m. No.19876640   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6653

German nuns were paid to 'drag' children to be sexually abused by predatory Catholic priests, court documents allegeDec 29, 2020

German nuns aided in the abuse of children by priests in the 1960s and 1970s, according to recently released court documents.

A victim testified that he was abused more than 1,000 times by clergy after nuns dragged him to the home of predators, Deutsche Welle reported.

The victim alleged some of the nuns received money for acting like "pimps," Der Spiegel reported.

 

German nuns in the city of Speyer received money for luring children to predatory priests who sexually abused them, local media reported from recently released court documents.

One victim, Karl Haucke, filed a court case seeking compensation from the Catholic church and alleging more than 1,000 instances of abuse over the 10 years he lived at a now-shuttered children's home, Deutsche Welle reported.

The case was decided in May, but the documents were only recently released. Haucke was awarded $18,000 for his suffering, the outlet reported.

The Bishop of Speyer has identified the primary abuser as a vicar named Rudolf Motzenbäcker, who is now dead.

The abuse is alleged to have happened in the 1960s and 1970s.

Haucke said he was "literally dragged" by nuns to Motzenbäcker's home where he was abused, Der Spiegel reported.

If he resisted, Haucke alleged, he would be beaten.

Haucke also testified that influential visitors to the children's home would abuse him and other children as young as 7 at "sex parties."

https://www.insider.com/german-nuns-dragged-children-catholic-priest-abuse-court-case-alleges-2020-12

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:30 a.m. No.19876645   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Nuns used crucifixes to rape girls

nuns used crucifixes to rape young girls during decades of abuse which was covered up by a 'veil of silence'

https://thestreetjournal.org/nuns-used-crucifixes-to-rape-girls-during-decades-of-abuse-in-catholic-church-new-report-reveals/

 

 

More than 330,000 children were sex abuse victims in Catholic Church in France05 October 2021

Pope Francis expressed his ‘sorrow’ at the investigation’s findings and praised the courage of the victims for speaking up

An estimated 330,000 children have been victims of sexual abuse within the French Catholic Church over the past 70 years, a report has found.

 

Jean-Marc Sauve, head of the commission that led the investigation into child sexual abuse, said on Tuesday that the Church had showed complete and sometimes cruel indifference to the victims.

 

Responding to the findings, Pope Francis said “his thoughts go to the victims, with great sorrow, for their wounds”. In a statement the Vatican said that the Pope had “learned with sorrow” about the contents of the investigation and hoped that “the Church of France, in the awareness of this terrible reality … may embark on … redemption”.

 

The report, which is the first major examination of the abuse perpetuated within the Church, included abuses committed by priests and other clerics as well as by non-religious people involved in the church

https://www.independent.co.uk/world/sexual-abuse-children-victims-church-france-b1932475.html

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:31 a.m. No.19876648   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6674

Abused nuns reveal stories of rape, forced abortionsJun 11, 2019

Another scandal is engulfing the Catholic Church.

At a time when the Vatican has taken its most concrete steps to address a long ordeal with sex abuse and coverups, a growing chorus of nuns is speaking out about the suffering they have endured at the hands of the priesthood, including rape, forced abortion, emotional abuse and labor exploitation.

Special correspondent Christopher Livesay reports.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/abused-nuns-reveal-stories-of-rape-forced-abortions

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:32 a.m. No.19876654   🗄️.is 🔗kun

ONE NATION 50 YEARS > 300,000 BABIES > SILENCE

NOT FRANCIS, NOR BENEDICT…

NOT POPULAR

NOT FINANCED

NOT FILMED

NOT RELEASED

ZERO CONVICTIONS

 

The only person convicted for the theft and sale of approx. 300,000 babies in Spain over 50 years was one of the victims. Convicted of Slandering a Nun.

 

 

The ‘stolen babies’ trial in Spain finally shines a light on a scandal that cannot be forgotten

Published: July 13, 2018 8.18am EDT

 

It is June 6 1969 and Spain is living through the final years of Franco’s dictatorship. At a clinic in Madrid, a woman gives birth to a baby girl she will never see again.

Little is known about what happened to that mother – but almost 50 years later, her daughter Inés Madrigal has just given evidence in a shocking trial.

 

In the dock was Dr Eduardo Vela, an 85-year-old former gynaecologist accused of stealing Inés from her biological mother.

Vela is alleged to have given the baby as a “gift” to a couple, the Madrigals, who were unable to have their own children. He denies the charges.

 

Despite the cinematic plot, this is not an isolated case. A network of baby trafficking is believed to have involved a vast network of doctors, nurses, nuns and priests.

Although there is no official figure, the SOS Stolen Babies association estimates that as many as 300,000 babies were taken from their parents in Spain between 1939 and the 1990s.

 

Now 49, Inés Madrigal works for the association and is the first “stolen baby” to successfully take an alleged perpetrator of one of these crimes to court.

https://theconversation.com/the-stolen-babies-trial-in-spain-finally-shines-a-light-on-a-scandal-that-cannot-be-forgotten-99860

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:32 a.m. No.19876657   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Spain to Begin the First Ever Franco-Era 'Stolen Babies' Trial

By Casey Quackenbush June 26, 2018 3:48 AM EDT

 

An 85-year-old doctor will appear in a Madrid court Tuesday, the first person to stand trial over an alleged practice that saw thousands of babies stolen under Spain’s military dictatorship during the mid-twentieth century.

Known as the lost children of the Franco-era, as many as 300,000 babies are estimated to have been abducted from their mothers under General Francisco Franco, who ruled Spain from 1939-75, and in the decades after.

The theft of newborns began in the 1930’s after the Spanish Civil War as an ideological practice, stripping left-wing parents or Franco-opponents of their children as a way of ridding Marxist influence from society.

But in the 1950’s, the practice expanded to poor or illegitimate families who were seen as economically or morally deficient, Agence France-Presse reports.

 

New mothers were often told their babies had died and the hospital had taken care of the burials. These babies were allegedly sold for adoption and involved a wide network of doctors, nurses, nuns and priests, according to AFP.

The system carried on after Franco’s death in 1975 until 1987, when a new law was implemented regulating adoption.

 

Dr. Eduardo Vela, who will appear in a Madrid court Tuesday, has been charged with falsifying official documents, illegal adoption, unlawful detention and certifying a non-existent birth, AFP reports.

The former gynecologist is accused of having taken Ines Madrigal, now aged 49, from her biological mother at birth, and given to another woman who was falsely certified as her birth mother.

According to DNA tests, Madrigal is not related to her late parents. Before her adopted mother died in 2016, Madrigal told a judge that she had been given by Vela as “a gift,” the BBC reports.

 

Campaigners say at least 2,000 other similar cases have been filed with Spanish prosecutors but until now, none have gone to trial, AFP reports.

https://time.com/5321938/spain-stolen-babies-franco-trial/

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:33 a.m. No.19876661   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6954

Trial to expose Spain’s 300,000 stolen children begins

85-year-old doctor first person to be charged over Franco-era baby scandal 26 Jun 2018

 

An 85-year-old gynaecologist is to become the first person in Spain to stand trial in connection with the alleged theft and sale of hundreds of thousands of children during and after the Franco regime.

Dr Eduardo Vela arrives in court today charged with the abduction and illegal adoption of a new born girl in 1969, in what is being seen as a test case that could trigger wider investigations into the scandal.

 

Victims’ groups claim as many as 300,000 babies were stolen and sold under the dictatorship of General Francisco Franco between the end of the Spanish Civil War in 1939 and the years after his death in 1975.

Many were taken from Republican families and given to those loyal to the regime.

 

Franco remains a contentious figure in Spain, and the role of the Catholic Church in supporting the regime and facilitating the sale of children has led some to suggest many would prefer to bury the past.

In 2008, investigating Judge Baltasar Garzón estimated that 30,000 children had been stolen from families considered politically suspect by the Franco regime after the civil war.

But the BBC says “little was known about the private trafficking of babies that continued in the 1960s until two men went public with their story in 2011”

 

One of these, Antonio Barroso, who had been sold by a priest in Zaragoza as a child and founded the association Anadir (National Association for Irregular Adoption Victims),

calculates that 15% of adoptions in Spain between 1965 and 1990 were the result of babies being taken without consent from their biological parents.

It led to more than 1,000 Spanish families launching a campaign seeking lost children, siblings or birth parents.

 

In 2011, when news of the scandal first broke, El Pais revealed how Spain’s stolen children network operated, implicating priests, nuns, doctors and government officials.

The paper said the decades-long trade in babies involving hospital staff and Roman Catholic Church-run children's homes was active “not only in Spain, but had an international dimension to it”.

Childless couples in the US, as well as Central and South America, would also come to Spain to circumvent adoption procedures.

 

Last year, the then-Popular Party-led government signed an agreement with the left-wing Podemos to invest €100,000 in a digital platform to investigate DNA data related to Spain’s stolen baby scandal.

But as the landmark trial finally begins, victims of Spain’s massive stolen baby scandal “are asking why it has taken so long for justice to shine some light into this dark chapter of the country’s history” the Daily Telegraph reports.

https://www.theweek.co.uk/94549/trial-to-expose-spain-s-300000-stolen-children-begins

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:33 a.m. No.19876664   🗄️.is 🔗kun

A tangled web: stealing newborns in twentieth-century Spain

Howard Fischer Uppsala, Sweden

 

“We were Europe’s baby supermarket and babies were stolen for sixty years.”1

— Inés Madrigal

 

Twentieth-century Spain was a politically unstable, highly divided nation. In 1931, King Alfonso XIII abdicated after the results of elections were interpreted as a plebiscite on abolishing the monarchy.2

What followed was “one weak government after another.”3

In 1936, with a socialist coalition governing Spain, “army leaders, backed by some of the country’s wealthiest families, decided they…had enough of democracy, and more than enough of socialism.”4

Army general Francisco Franco (1892–1975) was chosen to lead the revolt.

 

The resulting civil war (1936–1939) was a manifestation of the divisions in Spain. The legal, socialist government (the “Republicans”) was supported by party-line communists, Trotskyites, anarchists, socialists,

and some low-level Catholic clergy. The rebels (the “Nationalists”) consisted of the Spanish army, large landowners, and the Catholic church hierarchy. The Republicans got support from international volunteers, Mexico,

and the Soviet Union. The Nationalists were supported by ground and air forces of Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.

 

Half a million people died in the war. Of these, 20% (100,000) were killed in battle. The remaining 400,000 died in air raids or from executions or disease.5 The Republicans (called “Reds” by their enemies)

confiscated church property and killed about 10,000 bishops, priests, nuns, and monks.6 The Nationalists (“Fascists”) imprisoned and often murdered anyone who did not demonstrate Nationalist sympathies.

Providing food to a Republican fighter could result in a long prison term.

 

After the Nationalist victory in 1939, the ruling party found other ways of punishing opponents and preventing children from “inheriting” anti-government ideas from their parents.

Pregnant woman who were Republican sympathizers, socialists, atheists, or unmarried, were considered “degenerate.” They could not be good mothers, and their newborns needed to be adopted into “better” families.7

 

Some women were heavily sedated at the time of delivery and then told that their (liveborn) baby had been born dead. Other women saw and heard their newborns, who were then taken “to see the doctor,”

and were later told that their baby died of a congenital anomaly.

Some women delivered twins but were told that they gave birth to a singleton, and that they must have been confused.

 

Parents were forbidden to see their “dead” child. The San Ramón Maternity Hospital kept a frozen newborn cadaver to show parents who insisted on seeing their child. One mother, decades later,

recalled how her “newly dead” infant was ice-cold. The parents were not permitted to be at the infant’s burial. Some of these infants’ coffins, exhumed decades later, contained stones or adult remains.8

This happened in maternity hospitals across Spain. The participants in this conspiracy were doctors, nuns, midwives, and priests. It has been estimated that as many as 300,000 babies were stolen from their parents.9

These babies were then sold to prospective adoptive parents. This criminal activity, which started in 1939, may have continued until the 1980s,10 1990,11 or 1999.12

The adoptive parents were told that the baby had been left at an orphanage without any information (sin datos) about their origins.

One gynecologist admitted destroying any records before the child was sold to the adoptive parents. He was tried in 2018 and was found guilty of kidnapping and falsifying birth records.

The statute of limitations on his crimes had expired, and he received no penalty.13

 

The Spanish public has been aware of this national scandal since 2012, when several men, “adopted” as babies, learned the truth behind their adoptions.

Spanish law limits access to birth records until the patient (the woman who delivered) has been dead for at least twenty-five years.14

 

The story of stolen babies is not unique to Spain. Nazi Germany kidnapped 200,000 Aryan-looking Polish children to be adopted by German parents.15

Illegal removals and adoptions have taken place in China, Ethiopia, Chad, India, Guatemala,16 Australia,17 Canada,18 Norway, Sweden, Finland,19 and the US.20

https://hekint.org/2022/04/25/a-tangled-web-stealing-newborns-in-twentieth-century-spain/

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:34 a.m. No.19876665   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6676 >>6693

The Catholic Church Stole 300,000 Babies And Sold Them To The Highest Bidder

The Catholic Church is no stranger to scandal. They’ve attempted to systematically wipe out entire religions, and covered numerous sex crimes committed within their church,

but one of the most unforgivable things the Catholic Church has ever done has been to take part in Spanish baby trafficking.

Throughout the 20th century the Spanish arm of the Catholic Church would steal newborn babies from their mothers and sell them to the highest bidder. As far as church scandals go this is pretty high up there.

Not only is this behavior absolutely abhorrent, it’s also in direct opposition to their faith. This Spanish child kidnapping rite, like so many Catholic Church crimes,

proves that the people who rise to the highest places of power within organized religion care less about humanity are more about grabbing as much money and dominance as they possible can.

Keep reading to discover the truth behind the truly insane rumor that the Catholic Church sells stolen babies.

 

The Accused Didn't Face Charges Until 2018

Even though victims Juan Luis Moreno and Antonio Barroso brought the issue to light in 2011, it wasn't until August 2018 that alleged perpetrators faced charges.

Inés Madrigal, born in 1969 at San Ramon clinic in Madrid, claims a doctor kidnapped her and gave her away without her biological mother's permission. On August 14, 2018, her accused kidnapper,

obstetrician Eduardo Vela, stood trial and denied the allegations, telling a three-judge panel that he "never gave a girl to anybody." In 2012, Madrigal's adoptive mother (who passed in 2016) told CNN Vela gave her the baby.

The judges charged Vela with the illegal detention of a minor and forging a public document. Prosecutors are pushing for an 11-year jail sentence. Vela still denies "stealing" Madrigal and is pursuing a full acquittal.

Over 2,000 people filed stolen children suits with prosecutors.

 

It All Began In Post-War Spain

Following the Spanish Civil War (1936-39) General Francisco Franco became the head of the rebel Nationalist government and commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

Under his rule Spain became a hermit nation similar to that of modern day North Korea. Anyone who fought against the Nationalists during the war or who held opposing viewpoints were punished -

this includes anyone who wanted to have a child. These people were known as "undesirables" and Franco believed that anyone with an opposing viewpoint or who lived beneath a specific wage line wasn't fit to raise a child.

The task of taking babies away from single mothers and families who didn't fit into Franco's idea of ideal citizens was given to a network of Catholic priests and nuns who did their jobs efficiently and without asking any questions.

https://www.ranker.com/list/catholic-church-trafficked-stollen-babies-spain/jacob-shelton

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:35 a.m. No.19876666   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Spain To Begin The First Ever Franco-Era 'Stolen Babies' Trial | TIME

85-year-old, Dr. Eduardo Vela, will be the first to stand trial in Spain’s Franco-Era ‘Stolen Babies’ scandal.

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:35 a.m. No.19876669   🗄️.is 🔗kun

How the 'stolen babies' trial in Spain is scandal that won't be forgottenPart I

As many as 300,000 babies were taken from their families for political gain

Federico Lpez-Terra Thursday 19 July 2018 13:41

 

It is 6 June 1969 and Spain is living through the final years of Franco’s dictatorship. At a clinic in Madrid, a woman gives birth to a baby girl she will never see again.

Little is known about what happened to the mother – but almost 50 years later, her daughter Inés Madrigal has just given evidence in a shocking trial.

 

In the dock was Dr Eduardo Vela, an 85-year-old former gynaecologist accused of stealing Inés from her biological mother.

Vela is alleged to have given the baby as a “gift” to a couple, the Madrigals, who were unable to have their own children. He denies the charges.

 

Despite the cinematic plot, this is not an isolated case. A network of baby trafficking is believed to have involved a vast network of doctors, nurses, nuns and priests.

Although there is no official figure, the SOS Stolen Babies association estimates that as many as 300,000 babies were taken from their parents in Spain between 1939 and the 1990s.

 

Now 49, Inés Madrigal works for the association and is the first “stolen baby” to successfully take an alleged perpetrator of one of these crimes to court.

The roots of these crimes date back from the origins of Francoism when Spanish fascists were trying to prove eugenic theories of dissidents’ mental inferiority.

It was a thesis defended by the military psychiatrist Antonio Vallejo-Nágera – aka “the Spanish Mengele” – who led Franco’s office of psychological research.

He argued that political beliefs promoted in left-wing families could “intoxicate” children and “damage the mental health of future generations”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/stolen-babies-scandal-in-spain-crime-madrid-hospital-a8449286.html

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:36 a.m. No.19876672   🗄️.is 🔗kun

How the 'stolen babies' trial in Spain is scandal that won't be forgottenPart II

As many as 300,000 babies were taken from their families for political gain

Federico Lpez-Terra Thursday 19 July 2018 13:41

Vallejo-Nágera also believed that women had an “atrophied intelligence” and their sole life purpose was to procreate.

This ideological context helps explain the profile of the “adopters” of the stolen babies – affluent married women raised in a Catholic country who were unable to have children of their own.

Social pressure was extreme (male sterility wasn’t even considered back then) and having children equated to fulfilling their role in a devoutly Christian society.

 

Yet what started as an ideologically driven plan to purge Spain of an inferior race (the Marxists) turned into a lucrative business. Newborn children were taken away from their mothers without consent.

They were told the child was born dead or had died soon after.

 

Most of the time, children would be registered as the biological child of the adopting family, who would pay large sums of money for them.

(Some adopting families were also deceived and believed they were legally adopting children in need of a home.)

 

These acts represent one of the darkest chapters of Franco’s dictatorship. But its ideological roots share similarities with cases in Latin America in the 1970s and 1980s,

when children of dissidents (prisoners, murdered or “disappeared” people), were given to supporters of the regimes in Argentina, Chile and Uruguay.

 

But, as with many other originally Francoist crimes, in Spain the illicit network outlived the authoritarian regime. After Franco’s death in 1975,

many perpetrators are believed to have continued their practices during Spanish democracy in the 1980s and 1990s.

 

Among the many problems victims face, the lack of institutional support in Spain is probably one of the most serious.

Evidence of the extent of the network is still unclear, and the Spanish Catholic church has so far denied access to its files.

 

Earlier suspicions over the scandal were previously never taken forward and police dropped the cases given the repercussions and the people involved: politicians, lawyers, doctors – a sinister network of crime.

But despite recent public promises very little has been done to support the cause.

 

Something as simple as a DNA database to help clarify heritage is still overdue in Spain. The lack of documentary evidence and the statute of limitations has resulted in most of the cases being shelved.

 

So far, the only person convicted in relation to these cases is Ascensión López – herself one of the alleged “stolen babies” – who was prosecuted for slandering a nun.

A court ruled she had wrongly accused the nun of taking her from her biological mother and handing her to ageing adoptive parents in 1962.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/stolen-babies-scandal-in-spain-crime-madrid-hospital-a8449286.html

Anonymous ID: 9103aa Nov. 7, 2023, 11:37 a.m. No.19876675   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Lost children of Francoism

 

The lost children of Francoism (Spanish: niños perdidos del franquismo, niños robados por el franquismo; Catalan: nens perduts del franquisme, nens furtats pel franquisme;

Galician: nenos do franquismo, pícaros roubados polo Franquismo) were the children abducted from Republican parents, who were either in jail or had been assassinated by Nationalist troops,

during the Spanish Civil War and Francoist Spain.[1] The kidnapped children were sometimes also victims of child trafficking and illegal adoption.[2] The numbers of stolen children are highly speculative;

these figures may include children who became orphaned as a result of the Civil War (1936-1939) and, therefore, do not fall under the same category as children taken away from their parents by the regime after the war for political or social reasons.

Children who were stolen or adopted by families during or immediately after the war may have been victims of either side in the conflict. The issue has been highly ideologized in recent years as the political environment in Spain has become highly polarized.

 

Hispanic eugenics

Hispanic eugenics was pioneered by doctors like Antonio Vallejo Nájera and Gregorio Marañón. Antes que te cases was published by Nájera in 1946, with one part saying,

"Racial decadence is the result of many things but the most important is conjugal unhappiness in the most prosperous and happy of homes. … Eugenic precepts may avoid morbid offspring. …

It is impossible a robust race without a sound preparation of youth for marriage, through Catholic Morality. This little work is a minuscule contribution to the exaltation of the Fatherland."[3]

Marañón's 1921 Maternidad y feminismo, republished as a second edition in 1951, said, "The difference between the sexes is insurmountable.

Such difference emerges from the anatomical surface of each man and woman, and it goes to the deepest, darkest roots of life, to the home of the cells."[3]

Victims' groups have stated that the baby kidnappings developed into a business that continued into the 1980s.[20]

 

In January 2011, the families of 261 babies who disappeared in hospitals over a duration of fifty years put forward their case to the attorney general in Madrid.[20]

This started when two brothers were told by their foster father that he had bought them from a priest; the pair then went to the media and the story spread, making others come forward.[21]

Evidence consisted of nurses and people who admitted illegally adopting babies, with hospital staff, nuns and priests being suspected of being part of an organised network.[20]

People underwent DNA tests in the hope of reuniting their families but there were few matches. Many graves of dead infants were dug up for DNA-testing but some contained no remains while others contained those of an adult.[21]

According to lawyers involved in some cases, the number of abducted children is estimated to be up to 300,000.[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_children_of_Francoism