[2007 Joe Biden] So I think what you have to do is you have to have a significant increase in the security at the border, including limited elements where you actually have a fence, not a fence, 3000 miles like these folks are talking about. But you've got to, there are certain places people can go over and under a fence, but you can't take 100 kg of cocaine over and under a fence.
And what you do when you have limited places where fences are in populated areas, you force these drug dealers and others around making it easier to apprehend because there's fewer places to come through.So I think the combination of virtual fencing, some fencing, additional,additional border patrol is important. But the second piece is you got.