Anonymous ID: 8de21b Aug. 13, 2024, 12:24 a.m. No.21403822   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3830 >>3864

I wish a real news site would fact check this nerdy Gainer Dale and publish it

Or maybe anons could do the work and so it could be spread

 

Maybe. We could do 1 or two a day.

Let anons post rebuttals and then summarize

 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/13/politics/fact-check-trump-musk-20-false-claims

Fact check: Trump made at least 20 false claims in his conversation with Elon Musk

By Daniel Dale, CNN

Published 12:57 AM EDT, Tue August 13, 2024

Anonymous ID: 8de21b Aug. 13, 2024, 12:28 a.m. No.21403830   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3839 >>3860

>>21403822

 

Didn’t the Biden adm change the way crime was calculated?

Elise Stefanik has spoken about this

Crime

 

Trump claimed, “Our crime rate’s going through the roof.”

 

Facts First:Trump’s claim is false. Both violent crime and property crime dropped significantly in 2023 and in the first quarter of 2024.

 

There are limitations to the FBI-published data from local law enforcement – the numbers are preliminary, not all communities submitted data and the submitted data usually has some errors – so these statistics may not precisely capture the size of the recent declines in crime. But other data sources make it clear crime has indeed declined to some extent.

 

The preliminary FBI data for 2023 showed a roughly 13% decline in murder and a roughly 6% decline in overall violent crime compared to 2022, bringing both murder and violent crime levels below where they were in Trump’s last calendar year in office in 2020. The preliminary FBI data for the first quarter of 2024 showed an even steeper drop from the same quarter in 2023 – a roughly 26% decline in murder and roughly 15% decline in overall violent crime.

 

Crime data expert Jeff Asher, co-founder of the firm AH Datalytics, said earlier this year that if the final 2023 figures show a decline in murder of at least 10% from 2022, this would be the fastest US decline “ever recorded.” And he noted that both the preliminary FBI-published data from the first quarter of 2024 and also “crime data collected from several independent sources point to an even larger decline in property and violent crime, including a substantially larger drop in murder, so far this year compared to 2023, though there is still time left in the year for those trends to change.”

 

After Trump claimed in June that “crime is so much up,” Anna Harvey, a political science professor and director of the Public Safety Lab at New York University, noted to CNN that the claim is contradicted both by the data from the FBI and from the Major Cities Chiefs Association, which represents 70 large US police forces. She said: “It would be more accurate to say that crime is so much down.

Anonymous ID: 8de21b Aug. 13, 2024, 12:36 a.m. No.21403860   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3888

>>21403830

https://www.governing.com/urban/why-its-confusing-to-know-whether-crimes-really-up-or-down

 

Why It’s Confusing to Know Whether Crime’s Really Up or Down

 

Is crime out of control? The homicide rate went down 12 percent last year. Still, there’s more than one kind of crime, more than one data set and more than one way to spin things.

Jan. 11, 2024 •

 

In Brief:

The great majority of Americans believe crime is increasing.

However, data collected by the Department of Justice shows that personal and property crimes have been trending down significantly for decades.

There are significant gaps in this data, however, and national trends don't capture how crime is experienced at the local level.

 

Almost two-thirds of Americans believe crime is a serious problem, a Gallup poll found last month, with 77 percent convinced that crime is increasing. Perhaps few of them would have suspected that the homicide rate had actually dropped 12 percent in 2023, after reaching the highest rates in two decades between 2020 and 2022.

 

Fewer homicides is cause for celebration, but what about the overall crime rate, including property crimes? It’s difficult to know. For one thing, the federal government itself maintains two different databases. It’s changed one of them, which makes apples-to-apples comparisons over time problematic.Three years ago, the FBI made changes to its reporting system that are still being implemented, and not all local law enforcement agencies are reporting reliably to the feds.

Anonymous ID: 8de21b Aug. 13, 2024, 12:39 a.m. No.21403864   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3865 >>4435 >>4674

>>21403822

 

Rebuttal needed on inflation

 

No2

 

Inflation

 

Trump said, “I think we have the worst inflation we’ve had in 100 years. They say it’s 48 years, I don’t believe it.”

 

Facts First: Trump framed this as an opinion, but it’s baseless nonetheless – wrong in two different ways. First, even when the inflation rate hit its Biden-era peak of 9.1% in June 2022, that 9.1% rate was the highest since 1981 – between 40 and 41 years prior, certainly not “100 years” and not even “48 years.” Second, inflation has declined sharply since the June 2022 peak, and the most recent available rate at the time he spoke, for July 2024, was 3.2% – a rate that, the Biden presidency aside, was exceeded as recently as 2011.