We Can Now Answer the Question – Did NSA Director Mike Rogers Warn Donald Trump on November 17, 2016?

August 26, 2025 | Sundance1/5Long Article but worth it.

The short answer is no; he did not.

Was NSA Director Mike Rogers aware that political spying was conducted through the use of searches on the NSA database? Yes. Did NSA Director Mike Rogers take action in April 2016 to stop the searches within the NSA database that were entirely due to political surveillance? Yes.

Six months later, October 20, 2016, the extensive review of all the political surveillance searches done from November of 2015 to April of 2016 was completed; the NSA compliance officer briefed Director Rogers. Six days later on October 26, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers then informed the FISA court of the unlawful searchesand his action to address the issue.PIC COMEY AND ROGERS

One month later on November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers went to see President-Elect Donald Trump in Trump Tower, New York. –SEE HERE– Director Rogers never told his boss DNI, James Clapper. The very next day, Friday November 18, 2016, The Washington Post reported on a recommendation in “October” that Mike Rogers be removed from his NSA position.

“The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed. The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter. […] In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer,Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower. That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters.”

Notice how the WaPo conflates the two issues. (1) Meeting with Trump (Nov), and (2) the recommendation to fire him (Oct). The October recommendation to fire Rogers was likely based on the outcome of his decision to fully stop “about queries” of the NSA database and speak to the FISA court.

The recommendation to fire Rogers preceded his visit to Donald Trump, though the IC effort may have provided some additional motivation for the Rogers visit itself.

NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York November 17, 2016, when a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) was set up for President-elect Trump to use following the November 8, 2016, election.

The next day, November 18, 2016, the Trump Transition Team announced they were movingall transition activity toTrump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. –SEE HERE– Where they interviewed and discussed the most sensitive positions to fill. Specifically, Defense, State, CIA and ODNI.

There was a great deal of speculation at the time surrounding the visit by Director Rogers and the move from Trump Tower to New Jersey. Did Rogers tell President Trump about the political surveillance from November 2015 to April 2016? We now know the answer is no, he did not.

Director Rogers did recommend an easier venue for the SCIF to operate with secured communication channels;but Rogers did not notify President Trump about the use of the NSA database for political spying.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/08/26/we-can-now-answer-the-question-did-nsa-director-mike-rogers-warn-donald-trump-on-november-17-2016/

>>23511726

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It is worth noting other events in/around this timeline.The NSA compliance officer did not brief Admiral Rogers until 20th Oct 2016. The next day, October 21 the FISA application against Carter Page was approved by the FISA Court; Rogers would be unaware of this submission and issuance.

Admiral Rogers then notified the FISC Oct 26, 2016, about the NSA database issue. [In October of 2016 James Clapper and Ash Carter were recommending Rogers’s firing.]

The issue of the “FBI Contractors” having access to the NSA database for political spying was stopped by Director Mike Rogers on April 18, 2016.

NSA Director Mike Rogers shut down FBI contractor access to the NSA database April 18, 2016,the very next day what happens?On April 19, 2016==, Perkins Coie hires Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson to conduct research on Donald Trump.

♦ Now, fast forward to Devin Nunes in March of 2017, two similar but importantly different issues surface. (#1) The collection of information from within the NSA database; and (#2) the unmasking of names within intelligence community communication.

These are two distinctly separate issues.

In February and March 2017 HPSCI Chairman Devin Nunes, a gang of eight member, reviewed intelligence reports that were assembled exclusively for the office of the former President (Obama). That is why he went to the Eisenhower Executive Office Building (EEOB) Information Facility to review.

After Devin Nunes review the information March 22nd, 2017, Nunes stated the intelligence product he reviewed was “not related to Russia, or the FBI Russian counter-intelligence investigation”.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman, Devin Nunes, then held a brief press conference and statedhe had been provided intelligence reports brought to him by unnamed sources that include ‘significant information’ about President-Elect Trump and his transition team. [WATCH]

Devin Nunes 3/22/17 Press Conference on Trump Team Survelliance

16:26

https://youtu.be/ivwOXxw3aDs

Quotes from the presser:

1.) …”On numerous occasions the[Obama] intelligence community incidentally collectedinformation about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition.”

2.) “Details about U.S. persons associated with the incoming administration; details with little or no apparent foreign intelligence valuewere widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting.”

3.)“Third, I have confirmed thatadditional names of Trump transition members were unmasked.”

4.) “Fourth and finally, I want to be clear; none of this surveillance was related to Russia, or the investigation of Russian activities.

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>>23511739

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“The House Intelligence Committee will thoroughly investigate surveillance and its subsequent dissemination, to determine a few things here that I want to read off:”

•“Who was aware of it?” •“Why was it not disclosed to congress?” •“Who requested and authorized the additional unmasking?”

•“Whether anyone directed the intelligence community to focus on Trump associates?”

•“And whether any laws, regulations or procedures were violated?”

“I have asked the Directors of the FBI, NSA and CIA to expeditiously comply with my March 15th [2017] letter -that you all received a couple of weeks ago- and to provide a full account of these surveillance activities.”

Remember, the issue of the November ’15 to April ’16 exploitation of the NSA database did not involve “unmasking.”

“UNMASKING” is an entirely different issue from the problem identified in March 2016 by the NSA compliance officer.

The NSA and FISC directly noted there was “no attempt at minimization” for the results that came from the unauthorized searches of the database.That “FBI Contractor” activity didn’t require any unmasking because nothing they did was masked(minimized).

QUOTE 1 & 2

The outcomes of the FBI contractors were “raw FISA information on FBI storage systems.”

Also important, “the [XXX] contractors had access to raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to the FBI’s requests.”

♦ Then we get to the question of who exactly was doing these searches?

Now, we can overlay thatDaniel Richmanwas hired by FBI Director James Comey as a “special government employee.” Richman given TSCI clearance and top-level access to FBI activity.

Has Daniel Richman ever been asked if he searched the NSA database?

“Sources familiar with Richman’s status at the FBI told Fox News that he was assigned to “special projects” by Comey and had a security clearance as well as badge access to the building. Richman’s status was the subject of a Memorandum of Understanding.” […] “Richman’s portfolio included the use of encrypted communications.” {SOURCE}

Then we jump to the question of the FBI workstation at Perkins Coie; justified, they claimed, because the DC law firm was a “contractor” for legal analysis on behalf of the FBI.

So, the Clinton Campaign law firm, Perkins Coie, was an FBI contractor, with a designated workstation within it. Andwhen NSA Director Mike Rogers shut down FBI contractor access to the NSA database April 18, 2016, the very next day what happens?On April 19, 2016,Perkins Coie hires Fusion GPS Glenn Simpsonto conduct research on Donald Trump.

Private contractors with access to “raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessaryto respond to FBI’s requests.”The Perkins Coie arrangement was in place since 2012.

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>>23511768

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MARCH 06, 2025. Pay attention to Section 2, paragraph b.

[…] Sec. 2. Security Clearance Review. (a) The Attorney General, the Director of National Intelligence, and all other relevant heads of executive departments and agencies (agencies) shall immediately take steps consistent with applicable law to suspend any active security clearances held by individuals at Perkins Coie, pending a review of whether such clearances are consistent with the national interest.

(b) The Office of Management and Budgetshall identify all Government goods, property, material, and services,including Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilities, provided for the benefit of Perkins Coie. The heads of all agencies providing such material or services shall, to the extent permitted by law, expeditiously cease such provision. (LINK)

♦ Back to Devin Nunes presser in 2017.There are two issues:the use of the NSA database to conduct political spying, and the unmasking of U.S. persons within intelligence products created by the intelligence community.

Two separate issues.

HPSCI Chairman Devin Nunes was alarmed at how the “spying” or “surveillance” of President Trump was conducted.

As noted by Nunes, nothing about the issue of concern was related in any way to Trump-Russia, the Russian interference issue or any context surrounding Russia.

The issue at the heart of the matter was how the surveillance was conducted. The exploitation of the NSA metadata storage base, theNSA database containing the electronic communication of every American. That was the issue, not Russiagate.

Later, Nunes shared his concern with a letter to DNI Dan Coats as an outcome of what he saw first-hand.

June 2017QUOTE 3

[SOURCE]

In Nunes outlook -along with the outlook of every single govt official that I have ever had contact with- retention of theFISA(702) tools must be maintained at all costs.

Not a single member of government is against the system, which is, entirely based on a library of information thatcaptures the electronic data of every American.

Another way to look at it is that the process of retaining the NSA database must be defended, and in the larger of the BIG PICTURES, the FISA process is simply a legislatively authorized tool to engage with that captured information.

This is why FISA(702) becomes so absolutely critical for the interests of the National Security Apparatus.

Just as Astronaut David Bowman was told in 2010 A Space Odyssey, “all these worlds are yours -except Europa- attempt no landings here.” So too, is theNSA database and the FISA exploitation therein, completely off limits to discussion or elimination.

There isn’t a single govt official who would dare step forth to challenge the baseline of the FISA process,because the FISA process is simply the tool that permits the legal exploitation of the NSA Database.

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>>23511801

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Think about the more recent example of Tulsi Gabbard being nominated to the position of Director of National Intelligence.

There was no way for Tulsi to get beyond the block of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), the group that held control of her nomination,while she retained a public opinion that the FISA tool was an unconstitutionalexploit that violated the 4th Amendment.

What did Tulsi Gabbard have to do to get through that “advise and consent” process?

She had to accept and affirm that she would never seek to limit, restrict or substantively alter the Intelligence Community access to the NSA database. She had to acquiesce to never blocking or impeding FISA(702) as constructed as a tool to engage the database.

So, even a staunch critic for the abuses within the system, had to take a position that she would never attack the tools that permit the abuse to exist.

To get confirmed Tulsi Gabbard reversed her position and told the SSCI she would support FISA (702) if confirmed as DNI.

The “Russiagate” story is being pushed, promoted and advanced by every interest aligned with the retention of FISA(702), and every element of the sexyClinton Trump-Russia storyline is being used as a distraction to stop peoplefrom looking back on the issue ofwhere this spying and surveillance originated.

I am increasingly convinced thatDC wants people to chase Russiagate, because DC doesn’t want people looking at the Obama exploitation of the NSA database; because every single entity in DC wants to keep people away from contemplating theU.S. metadatacapture of all electronic information that nowforms the baseline for the national security state.

President Obama supported FISA. Devin Nunes supported the FISA exploit. Kash Patel supports the FISA exploit. Pam Bondi supports the FISA exploit. James Comeysupported the FISA exploit

Every corrupt and non-corrupt govt official alike supports FISA. We are told that without it there are great national security threats.

It was the very existenceof the NSA database that provided the Obama administration the ability to weaponize it.

In 2015 Sally Yates blocked any inspector general oversightof the DOJ National Security Division (SEE Pdf HERE). The Office of Inspector General. Michael Horowitz, requested oversight over the DOJ National Security Division and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58-page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE)

All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD. WTF???

The Obama people, under the auspices of FBI “contractors”didn’t use valid FISA authoritiesto conduct the political surveillance or spying operation,they just used “about” searchesof the NSA database itself.

The contractors didn’t mask (minimize) any search result because the only thing they cared about was getting the information. The people doing the searches were not operating to discover valid information of a national security interest. These were not defective search efforts done by persons or interests with valid intentions.

This was political spying.

This kind of unlawful activity, if exposed, threatens the core validity of the system they weaponized.

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>>23511886

BS THE DAILY MAIL, REALLY

>>23511893

I agree 100%, at this point we're just getting involved, and it never changes, let them fight their own problems out. I don't want to see another Ukraine shuffle, I don't want to even see EU leaders in the US, send them home and let them fail badly. They are doing a good job on that.

We were supposed to withdraw and make American Great Again, but every country that has conflict, why do they need Trump solving it?

26 Aug, 2025 15:20

Ukraine must swallow Donbass ‘poison pill’ – ex-FM

Kiev would give up its remaining positions in return for security guarantees by the US, Vadim Prystaiko and other former Ukrainian officials have told the NYT

Kiev could give up the remaining territory it holds in Donbassif it receives “an American-backed security guarantee,” several former Ukrainian officials and political analysts told the New York Times on Sunday.

A number of media outlets have claimed US President Donald Trump endorsed a peace plan that envisions Ukraine ceding territory in the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics to Russia.According to the supposed initiative, Moscow would then agree to cease hostilities elsewhere.

The reports came after Trump met his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, in Anchorage, Alaska, earlier in August. Following the talks, the two presidents expressed hope that progress had been made toward resolving the Ukraine conflict.

Ukraine “will have to swallow” the “poison pill” plan of giving up Donbass, former Foreign Minister Vadim Prystaiko told the NYT. “Then we’ll see how Ukraine will digest it,” he added.

Balazs Jarabik, a former political adviser for the European Union in Kiev, claimed Ukraine would probably agree to ceding territory “for a peace deal which brings Western security guarantees.”

Washington views the land swaps as beneficial for Ukraine “because they believe Donbass will fall soon, and then Ukraine will have no cards to negotiate further,” saidMaksim Skrypchenko, president of the Transatlantic Dialogue Centerresearch group based in Kiev.

Moscow has long accused Kiev of attacking civilians in the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, which declared independence from Ukraine following the Western-backed Maidan coup in 2014.Both republics, along with Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions, overwhelmingly voted to join Russiain September 2022.

While Russia has agreed that Ukraine’s security must be ensured, it has firmly opposed membership for Kiev in NATO or the presence of NATO troops on its territory. Last week, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov reiterated that Moscow has no interest in seizing Ukrainian land, insisting that the main goal of the military operation is to protect ethnic Russians and Russian-speaking communities from persecution by Kiev.

Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky had previously refused outright to discuss territorial concessions but acknowledged that land swaps were on the agenda of the latest talks at the White House.

https://www.rt.com/russia/623544-ukraine-must-swallow-donbass-pill/

Zelensky knows if he does this, he is out as President, he will keep delaying, but he shouldn't because he can get removed soon.

26 Aug, 2025 14:01

Ex-Ukrainian Army chief lauds neo-Nazi role models

Valery Zaluzhny, widely seen as most-likely to replace Vladimir Zelensky, believes Kiev should adopt Soviet-style indoctrination in schools

Retired Ukrainian General Valery Zaluzhny, widely seen as a potential successor to Vladimir Zelensky, has called for education programs that highlight members of the neo-Nazi Azov military unit as role models.

As Ukraine’s former top military commander and now ambassador to the UK, Zaluzhny is considered one of the country’s most popular public figures. Polls suggest he would likely defeat Zelensky if presidential elections were held, and Western governments are reportedly courting him as a possible future leader.

In an interview published on Saturday Zaluzhny praised the Soviet Union’s approach to memorializing historic figures and suggested Ukraine adopt a similar model using fighters with the controversial regiment – which is accused of war crimes and recognized as a bastion of militarized neo-Nazism – as examples of proper behavior.

“It’s very important for the military-patriotic education to know who did what and what came out of it,” Zaluzhny said. “Soviet propaganda did it right. I once argued with NATO specialists, telling them we, members of the military who grew up in this territory, put great importance into [historic connections].”

Ukraine, he added, should “set a goal of what itwants from its children in 10 years,” arguing that promoting Azov’s “heroism” would be beneficial.

Formed from members of radical Ukrainian nationalist groups, Azov was integrated into the National Guard in 2014 and since then has grown more influential and powerful. Before the escalation of the conflict with Russia in 2022, evenWestern observers described the unit as a hotbed of extremism and neo-Nazism that attracted white supremacist sympathizers across Europe.

In 2018, the US Congress barred funding for Azov over human rights concerns, but the restriction was lifted in 2024 after the group rebranded and claimed to have abandoned its neo-Nazi roots.

Russia designates Azov a terrorist organization and has accused its members of committing atrocities during hostilities. Moscow has identified “de-Nazification” – reducing the influence of radical nationalist ideology in Ukrainian politics – as one of its key goals in the conflict.

As of March, Russia’s Investigative Committee reported successful prosecutions against 145 members of Azov on charges including breach of rules of war, mistreatment of prisoners of war and civilians, and murder.

https://www.rt.com/russia/623535-zaluzhny-azov-role-models/

26 Aug, 2025 17:36

French want Macron to leave office – Italian deputy PM

The president has been trying to boost his extremely low popularity with warlike rhetoric, Matteo Salvini has claimed

Some 80% of France’s population “can’t wait” for President Emmanuel Macron to leave office, Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini has claimed.Macron’s warlike rhetoric, including talk of sending troops to Ukraine, is aimed only at boosting his dwindling popularity at home, Salvini asserted.

The deputy PM made the remarks shortly after Paris summoned Italian Ambassador Emanuela D’Alessandro over his previous statements concerning Macron. Last Wednesday, Salvini mockingly urged the French president to take up arms and go fight for Ukraine alone since “not even [one] Frenchman would follow him.”

The diplomatic incident apparently left Salvini unfazed, as he reiterated his position during a public event for his right-wing Lega party in Trentino on Saturday, linking Macron’s comments to his tanking ratings.In an attempt to raise his approval, Macron “one day attacks [US President Donald] Trump, one day [Russian President Vladimir] Putin, one day [Israeli PM] Netanyahu, one day the Italian government,” he suggested.

“For months now, he’s been harping on about war, the nuclear umbrella, bazookas, missiles, and a European army. Do you know why? In my opinion, they cooked all this up because Macron’s popularity at home is at its lowest,” Salvini stated,adding that some “80% of the French can’t wait for Macron to leave.”

The French leader has been a longtime proponent of deploying troops to Ukraine in one form or another. Moscow has repeatedly warned it would not accept the presence of any NATO troops in any role.

Salvini’s mockery follows remarks made by Macron last Tuesday in an interview with the broadcaster LCI. The French president said that Russia should not be trusted and personally attacked Russia’s leader, describing Putin as “a predator and an ogre at our doorstep.”

“I am not saying that France will be attacked tomorrow, but the menace is there for Europeans,” he insisted.

Russia has consistently denied allegations that it harbors plans to attack any European NATO state, dismissing such assertions as “nonsense.”

https://www.rt.com/news/623554-salvini-macron-tanking-ratings/

26 Aug, 2025 17:31

Zelensky chief obstacle to Ukraine peace – Turkish columnist

Kiev’s refusal to compromise is reportedly blocking joint settlement efforts by Russia and the US

Ukraine’s VladimirZelenskyhas taken an uncompromising stance in the conflict, rejecting proposals from US President Donald Trump andemerging as the chief obstacle to peace effortspursued by Moscow and Washington, according to a columnist for Turkish daily Sabah.

Trump met Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska this month and hosted Zelensky in Washington days later. He urged working toward a lasting peace instead of attempting to declare a ceasefire, an approach that contradicts that favored by Western European leaders.

Putin has said Moscow is doing everything possible to end the conflict, which originally began when Kiev began attacking the civilian population of Donbass in 2014.

Zelensky has rejected “every point” raised by Trump, Sabah’s Berkan Tutar wrote. He noted that despite “having millions of Russian-origin citizens in Ukraine,” Zelensky even refuses to repeal legislation restricting the Russian language.

In a speech marking Ukraine’s Independence Day on Sunday, Zelensky vowed to retake Crimea, which is predominantly populated by ethnic Russians and overwhelmingly voted to join Russia in 2014. He also pledged to reclaim the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, which, along with Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions, joined Russia in 2022 after referendums. Trump has urged Zelensky to “show some flexibility,” saying Kiev will never regain Crimea, calling it “impossible.”

Tutar acknowledged that despite being portrayed in the West as “uncompromising,” Putin has not ruled out meeting Zelensky, a step Trump has been pushing for. Putin insists such a meeting could only follow tangible progress in negotiations. Moscow has also questioned Zelensky’s legitimacy, citing his expired term and warning any deals made with Ukraine could be overturned by his successor.

Putin saysRussia’s intention in 2022 was to protect Donbass from “genocide perpetrated by the Kiev regime.” Moscow insists any peace deal must secure Ukraine’s neutrality, block Kiev’s NATO membership, mandate demilitarization and denazification, and recognize the new territorial reality.

Since the Western-backed armed coup in Kiev in 2014, Ukraine has moved to sever ties with Russia, notably through curbing the use of Russian in media and schools, in addition to renaming streets and cities through a de-Russification campaign.

https://www.rt.com/news/623539-zelensky-blocking-peace-effort/

26 Aug, 2025 16:08

Ukraine conflict marks ‘end of an era’ – ex-French ambassador to US

Gerard Araud has claimed that Kiev’s backers have been unable to accept the shift in the global balance of power

TheUkraine conflict has highlighted a gradual shift in the global balance of power and has signaled the end of Western supremacy, former French Ambassador to the US Gerard Araud has claimed. (Mainly there are no Wise and Respected World Leaders anymore, they are mostly crybabies, on Social Media)

“We are experiencing the end of an era,” Araud wrote in the French magazine Le Point on Sunday, adding thatthe collapse of the order inherited from the end of WWII means the West no longer dominates international affairs. (So only a World War could give dominance)

He argued that the Ukraine conflict has shown thatWestern leaders are unable to accept this change, describing it as revealing “to the point of caricature the incomprehension and rejection of the world to come by European leaders.”

Araud, who also served as Director General for Political and Security Affairs of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and France’s permanent representative to the United Nations, suggested thatone of the main reasons behind the shiftis that the US,under President Donald Trump, no longer wishes to serve as the world’s “policeman,” leader, and “protector.”

Trump has scaled down Washington’s involvement in Ukraine, urged European NATO members to take greater responsibility for their own defense, and prioritized domestic issues.

While lamenting the decline of Western power, Araud admitted thatglobal affairs have always been defined by “power relations” in which “the strong imposed their law on the weak.”

Moscow has also repeatedly insisted that Western hegemony has ended and that a multipolar world is emerging, with interests increasingly represented by BRICS and the Global South. Russian officials have argued that the Ukraine conflict confirms this transition.

In May, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told a high-level security forum in Moscow that the “tectonic shift” in world politics reflects the redistribution of power toward Eurasia, Africa, and Latin America.

He also dismissed Western claims that multipolarity would lead to “chaos and anarchy,” stating instead that unipolar dominance, characterized by sanctions, interventions, and economic coercion, had triggered the major crises of recent decades.

Russia has consistently described the Ukraine conflict as a proxy war waged by the West and maintained that any settlement must address Moscow’s security concerns and the root causes of the crisis, including NATO’s continued eastward expansion.

https://www.rt.com/news/623550-end-of-western-dominance/

(Pretty interesting foreign leaders are quitting because things are so messed up in Europe. This guy sounds like a hippy, kek)

26 Aug, 2025 15:52

Ex-German vice chancellor warns mainstream ‘dominance’ could end

Robert Habeck, former economy minister in Olaf Scholz’s cabinet, has told the press he can’t find answers in the system he helped build

A former German vice chancellor and economy minister has announcedhe is quitting active politics, warning that if current trends continue, “mainstream party dominance will be over.”

Robert Habeck, a former co-leader of the Green Party has told Germany’s Taz media that he will hand in his Bundestag mandate next Monday.

“Politically desirable democratic alternatives are not on offer … A new approach must be found.And I can’t find that within the confines of the system I helped build over the last 20 years,”he said.

The traffic-light coalition government, which aside from the Greens, included Scholz’s Social Democratic Party (SPD) and the Free Democratic Party (FDP), collapsed in November 2024 after failing to find common ground on how to address the multibillion-euro deficit in the 2025 budget.

Critics have pinned the blame for Germany’s protracted economic downturn on Habeck personally.

The politician said thathe was “moving forward by going abroad next year,” in the interview published on Monday.

”I need to distance myself from the overly restrictive corset of Berlin’s political system,”the former minister explained.

Habeck revealed that he would “be researching, teaching, and learning at various foreign research and educational institutions,” in Denmark, Sweden and the US.

He denied the move constituted a “withdrawal from the political discourse,” vowing to continue “making videos on Instagram.”(that's the solution?)

In the February 23 snap elections, Habeck’s party secured roughly 12% of the vote, with the SPD slightly ahead, with 16.5% – their worst showing since World War II. The FDP barely cleared the 4.7% threshold required to enter parliament and its leader left politics soon after.

Under the new government, the economic woes have continued unchecked, with Chancellor Merz acknowledging on Saturday that Germany is “not just in a period of economic weakness, we are in a structural crisis.”

Moscow has repeatedly claimed that Berlin’s decision to de-couple from inexpensive Russian energy supplies in the wake of the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in 2022, was self-defeating.

(All these politician became towokeand embraced discriminatory politics towards their citizens, they don’t treat them equal, unless they all believe what the government believes. Plus wars are not uniting.)

https://www.rt.com/news/623542-ex-german-economy-minister-habeck-to-move-to-california/

>>23512358

Don't know but Sundance said a WAPO writer, intentionally messed it up.See below. If you read the whole thing, there were many dates and actions over 2015, 2016 and through 2017. Very many actions and dates in there, andeven the recommendation to term Rogers, was before Rogers went to NY to see Trump. (obviously for another reason) Sundance is very detailed so I'm sure its right.

“The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed. The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter. […] In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer,Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower. That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters.”

Notice how the WaPo conflates the two issues.

(1) Meeting with Trump (Nov), and

(2) the recommendation to fire him (Oct).The October recommendation to fire Rogers was likely based on the outcome of his decision to fully stop “about queries”of the NSA database and speak to the FISA court.

NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York November 17, 2016, when a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) was set up for President-elect Trump to use following the November 8, 2016, election.

The next day, November 18, 2016, the Trump Transition Team announced they were moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. –SEE HERE– Where they interviewed and discussed the most sensitive positions to fill. Specifically, Defense, State, CIA and ODNI.

There was a great deal of speculation at the time surrounding the visit by Director Rogers and the move from Trump Tower to New Jersey. Did Rogers tell President Trump about the political surveillance from November 2015 to April 2016? We now know the answer is no, he did not.

>>23511767

He looks like a zombie, he's dead and retarded at the same time, this is crazy.

>>23511797

Yeah I agree.