Anonymous ID: 555632 Sept. 5, 2025, 7:47 a.m. No.23551201   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>23550914

GM America.

Persian conquered by the Arabs and took away their traditional language.

Arabs conquered Persia

The adoption of the Arabic script for Persian was a direct result of the Arab conquest,

After the Arab conquest, the Arabic script gradually replaced Pahlavi for writing Persian (now called New Persian or Farsi).

(So they are coming after English for sure.

We need to avoid "Future proves Past" in this case. and move to

"The suffering that is to come, can and should be avoided"}

Great Persian mystic poet, stanzas written with Arabic script. Ja lal al din Rumi

Arab influence created cult of homosexuality ? Kinda like what happened in the Roman Church?

Very devotional and important, yet love for God mixed with love for teacher?

The Christians also fell into certain Roman practices ? (churches as brothels, dead babies buried on their grounds - did all that stop in the Middle Ages?)

There's a strain among Arab culture which demeans woman, or puts them in very second place? The men can hold hands, while woman are hidden and abused (by modern standards)

I knew a woman who married an Arab and she told me about it, Paki? Anyway, she wasn't allowed out of the house and her husband would parade around holding hand and in the arms of his man friends. Could that be a cult of homosexuality?

Women kept strictly for cleaning and baby making?

Poem 62 (from Mystical Poems of Rumi, translated by A.J. Arberry)

:Fair ones, fair ones, a fair one has gone mad;

His bowl has fallen from the roof, he has gone to the madhouse.

He circled about the pool like a moth, then set his wing aflame,

Suddenly like a dry reed he became a spark in our pool.

Learned man, weep up your tears against this, do not listen to this incantation,

For he has become a legend through our charm.

The ears do not escape from this ring which has melted minds of their reason;

Having laid his head on the millstone, he vanished like a grain into the measure.

Regarded it not as a sport, regard it not as a sport; here choose

A falling away life; heads in plenty through love of his curls

Have become turned upside down like a comb.

Be not puffed up by your reason; many a well-trimmed master

Who was a pillar of the world has become lame,

Lamenting than the Moaning Pillar.

I, who have cut away from life, rose-like have become a bud,

Hence have become such that my reason has become a stranger to my soul.

Those drops of individual reason have become vanquished

In the Sea of Reason; the atoms of these fragmentary souls

Have become annihilated in the Beloved.

I will keep silent, I will perform the command and hide

This candle—a candle in whose light the sun and the moon are moths.

 

I believe the Arabs?, his students, and the society in general, directly killed Jalal al din Rumi's teacher, Shams; and that's what inspired his poetry; a form of mourning.

I pretty much believe that Rumi was "in love" with his teacher Shams.

It was a scandal, Maybe why they killed Shams of Tabriz? Also unorthodox religious beliefs?

Amazing poetry regardless.