not even the same. In one case we have a very small frog in a tiny car.
and in the next you have very large lodge-boys in full sized cars.
obviously I know that they aren't in full sized cars.
but they are still very large lodge-boys.
I call them boys because joining a lodge kind of removes the growth towards being a man.
that's why that stuff exists: to trap capible boys into a 'we are rulers in our own playground' mentality.
and to thus basically geld them from being effective except as hench goons, sad to say.
and if they are very clever and figure it out they get seduced into the next 'level' where the same play is made.
all of this is just my observation. I give no guarantees as to my accuracy.