reminds me of the Station Night Club fire.
I was in providence that evening and going home saw so many ambulances going in the other direction I wondered what might have happened . . .
of course I only heard about this one after the fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoanut_Grove_fire
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The Cocoanut Grove fire was a nightclub fire which took place in Boston, Massachusetts, on November 28, 1942, and resulted in the deaths of 492 people. It is the deadliest nightclub fire in history and the third-deadliest single-building fire in the United States (after the September 11 attacks and Iroquois Theatre fire). The Cocoanut Grove was one of Boston's most popular nightspots, attracting many celebrity visitors. It was owned by Barnet "Barney" Welansky, who was closely connected to the Mafia and to Mayor Maurice J. Tobin. Fire regulations had been flouted; some exit doors had been locked to prevent unauthorized entry, and the elaborate palm tree décor contained flammable materials. The air conditioning system was filled with a flammable gas because of the wartime shortage of nonflammable Freon.
During the first Thanksgiving weekend since the U.S. had entered World War II, the Grove was filled to more than twice its legal capacity. The initial source of ignition is not known for sure, but the fire was accelerated by methyl chloride venting from the air conditioning unit. Flames and smoke spread rapidly through all areas of the club, and people were unable to escape quickly because of the locked exit doors. Blame was directed at Welansky for violation of standards; he served nearly four years in jail before being released just weeks before his death.
Local hospitals were especially well-prepared to treat the casualties, having been rehearsing emergency drills in response to possible wartime attacks on the East Coast. The crisis demonstrated the value of the recently-installed blood banks, and stimulated important advances in the treatment of burn victims. Following the fire, many new laws were enacted for public establishments, including the banning of flammable decorations, a provision that emergency exits must be kept unlocked (from the inside), and that revolving doors cannot be the only exit.
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I also remember a very sad fire in Worcester, MA where some homeless people weren't in the building but the firemen thought that they were . . .
Worcester Cold Storage and Warehouse Co. fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_Cold_Storage_and_Warehouse_Co._fire
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Reports that homeless people were possibly inside the engulfed warehouse caused fire-rescue personnel to search the six-story building. The searchers' task was made extremely difficult by the large size of the building's interior, the layout, which was a maze of corridors and meat lockers, many with identical flush-handle doors, and the highly flammable composition of its insulation.[4] Nearly a century old, the interior walls had been progressively covered with various forms of insulating materials, including cork impregnated with tar, polystyrene foam, and polyurethane foam, to a thickness of 18 inches. Once ignited, the large amount of fuel, fed initially by the large volume of air in the building, became virtually inextinguishable.
The six-story building's exterior walls were constructed of approximately 18 inches of brick and mortar, with no windows above the second floor.[4] The lack of windows prevented firefighting personnel from making an accurate assessment of the fire. Breaching the lower-floor doors, combined with venting the building by smashing an elevator-shaft roof skylight, effectively turned the building into a huge chimney. With the fire accelerating out of control, rescue teams facing near-zero visibility became lost and air cylinders depleted. After repeated radio calls for help, along with activation of audible location alarms, six firefighters perished in the blaze.[2] It took eight days to find and recover the remains of the six men.
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pretty sure one of them was retarded, they both might have been.
from Google AI:
Thinking
Searching
The individuals believed to be in the building were
Thomas S. Levesque, then 37, and Julie Ann Barnes, then 19. They were a homeless couple who had been squatting on the second floor of the abandoned warehouse for several months.
Background and Characteristics
Both individuals were described as having significant vulnerabilities and led what investigators called "dysfunctional lives":
Mental Impairments: Legal and medical reports described both as having significant mental and intellectual disabilities. Acquaintances referred to them as "childlike" and "slow".
It was hard, I heard back then, because once it was determined that there wasn't anything anyone could do . . . many of the other fire fighters had to be restrained from going into the building to look for their comrades.
"The term holocaust, derived from a Greek word meaning 'burnt offering',[2] was an ordinary English word for centuries also meaning 'destruction or sacrifice by fire' or, figuratively, 'massacre'. "
it used to mean also the fires in front of ancient temples where creatures were sacrificed.
The word was usurbed in the 1950s to craft the 6 million narrative, which was, at first, a 12 million narrative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
Arkancide was a term I remember some would use to describe the curious deaths associated with that crowd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
"Final assault and the burning of the Mount Carmel Center
Newly appointed US Attorney General Janet Reno approved recommendations by the FBI Hostage Rescue Team to mount an assault, after being told that conditions were deteriorating and that children were being abused inside the compound.[69] Reno made the FBI's case to Clinton. Recalling the April 19, 1985, The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSA) siege in Arkansas (which was ended without loss of life by a blockade without a deadline), Clinton suggested similar tactics against the Branch Davidians. Reno countered that the FBI Hostage Rescue Team was tired of waiting; that the standoff was costing a million dollars per week; that the Branch Davidians could hold out longer than the CSA; and that the chances of child sexual abuse and mass suicide were imminent. Clinton later recounted: "Finally, I told her that if she thought it was the right thing to do, she could go ahead."[81] Over the next months, Reno's reason for approving the final CS gas attack varied from her initial claim that the FBI Hostage Rescue Team had told her that Koresh was sexually abusing children and beating babies (the FBI Hostage Rescue Team later denied evidence of child abuse during the standoff[82]) to her claim that Linda Thompson's "Unorganized Militia of the United States" was on the way to Waco "either to help Koresh or to attack him."[83]
The assault took place on April 19, 1993. Because the Branch Davidians were heavily armed, the FBI Hostage Rescue Team's arms included .50 caliber (12.7 mm) rifles and armored Combat Engineering Vehicles (CEV). The CEVs used explosives to punch holes in the walls of buildings of the compound so they could pump in CS gas (tear gas) and try to force the Branch Davidians out without harming them. The stated plan called for increasing amounts of gas to be pumped in over two days to increase pressure.[43] Officially, no armed assault was to be made. Regarding the initial plan to tear gas the building, the spokesperson of the FBI Carl Stern claimed that input was taken from psychologists, psychiatrists, behavioral specialists, as well as, “scientific, medical stuff”.[84] Loudspeakers were to be used to tell the Branch Davidians that there would be no armed assault and to ask them not to fire on the vehicles. According to the FBI, the Hostage Rescue Team agents had been permitted to return any incoming fire, but no shots were fired by federal agents on April 19. When several Branch Davidians opened fire, the FBI Hostage Rescue Team's response was to increase the amount of gas being used.[43] An anonymous official claimed that the reason for the FBI's increased aggression was bureau audio listening equipment inside the compound; this claim was neither corroborated or denied by FBI Director William Sessions."
also from the Waco Seige wikipedia article:
"At around noon, three fires broke out almost simultaneously in different parts of the building and spread quickly; footage of them was broadcast live by television crews. The government maintains the fires were deliberately started by the Branch Davidians.[43][88] Some Branch Davidian survivors and other experts hold that the fires were accidentally or deliberately started by the assault, possibly by the pyrotechnic rounds used by the FBI.[89][90]
Nine people left the building during the fire.[43][88] The remaining Branch Davidians, including the children, were either buried alive by rubble, suffocated, or shot. Many were killed by smoke or carbon monoxide inhalation and other causes as fire engulfed the building.[88] According to the FBI, Steve Schneider—Koresh's top aide—shot and killed Koresh and then himself.[91] In all, 76 people died."
76 PEOPLE DIEDfrom this botched Clintonista effort
Your point is well taken.
the other one I remember was called 'Ruby Ridge'
I also recall when the Barry crew was in charge that they wanted to do the same kind of thing to some folks on a Mesa who had grandfathered cattle grazing right. The Bundy Ranch.
Seems as though the BLM (burarou of Land Management) wanted the land for a turtle refuge for turtles that aren't even endangered and because it was 'high up so when global warming hit it will still be above the sea (delusional)
In that case the hired guns told the Federales they weren't going to do it and the government had to stand down.
I am not sure of the exact reasons why the raid didn't happen at the Bundy Ranch, but at the time I was following it and remembered that it was said that the hired guns told the Gov to F-off.
I had found a PDF from BLM that explained their plans for the land, and had posted it in some places. Very soon after that the standoff ended. I think it was on Slash-dot that the discussions about it were being had which I contributed to at the time.o
the slander shill posts his constant slander
why are . . . paying taxes . . .
because jail sucks?
Isn't that the answer, anon? Jail sucks or fines suck so we pay the taxes because it's the path of least resistance and least harm to ourselves?
you could try to optimize your income to avoid as many taxes as possible but then you'll find you won't have much money to spend.