Pearl Harbor

So the japs were after the carriers, but didn't know they weren't there?

"Commercial Pacific Cable Company was founded in 1901, and ceased operations in October 1951. It provided the first direct telegraph route from America to the Philippines, China, and Japan."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Pacific_Cable_Company

Well that's interesting, isn't it. If the japs wanted to know if the carriers were at PH, they literally could have just rung up and asked any of the 20,000 Japs living on Ohau

The cable is on this National Geographic map, from 1921

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Seas_Mandate#/media/File:Sovereignty_and_Mandate_Boundary_Lines_in_1921_of_the_Islands_of_the_Pacific.jpg

Pearl Harbor

So it was a "surprise attack", was it?

Did you know, the national guard was having a training exercise that day?

https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article/1389940/guard-troops-were-training-when-japanese-struck-pearl-harbor/

Did you also know, that the Japs landed 80,000 troops in the biggest seaborn invasion at midnight 7/8 December.

The invasion of Thailand, but what is interesting, is that this is 2-3 hours BEFORE the attack on Pearl Harbor (don't forget the date line).

Unaware that a secret fleet was on its way to Hawaii, the Americans did know—from the volume of radio traffic, from observers in the Far East—that many other Imperial warships were moving toward the Philippines and the rest of Southeast Asia. On November 27, the day after the strike fleet moved out of Hitokappu Bay, a message from Harold Stark, the chief of naval operations in Washington, flashed to all U.S. Navy outposts in the Pacific:

This dispatch is to be considered a war warning X Negotiations with Japan looking toward the stabilization of conditions in the Pacific have ceased and an aggressive move by Japan is expected within the next few days X The number and equipment of Japanese troops and the organization of naval task forces indicates an amphibious expedition against either the Philippines Thai or Kra Peninsula or possibly Borneo X Execute an appropriate defensive deployment preparatory to carrying out the tasks assigned in WPL46.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-almost-everyone-failed-prepare-pearl-harbor-1-180961144/

Surprise?

So you are going to tell me, that the US forces on the Philippines didn't notify anyone when the Jap invasion of Thailand started?

When they KNEW there was a Japanese Fleet just offshore?

Pearl Harbor

It was an attack to destroy the US fleet?

Have a look at the picrel

Can anyone explain why they didn't bomb the oil stores?

Or the machine shops?

"Naturally the Japanese, even with the large number of planes at their disposal, could not attack all targets which were of major importance. For instance, no attack was made on the extensive facilities

of the Navy Yard except in the case of two drydocks which held several ships. No real damage was suffered by the large array of shops and work facilities for repairing ships, which proved of such tremendous value to the nation from December 7 onward. Likewise, the tremendous oil stowage adjacent to Pearl Harbor was not attacked at all, and it was wondered why the Japanese failed to drop at least a few bombs which might have started a conflagration that would have proved disastrous, especially to the mobility of the undamaged vessels of the Fleet in the days to follow December 7."

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1946/december/rejuvenation-pearl-harbor

Pearl Harbor

So the Japs attacked from the north….So how come Vestal was hit by two 16in shells, oops I mean bombs, from the south west?

And how come the two "bombs" that hit her had exactly the same direction and trajectory?

As if the "bombs" came from a naval salvo?

http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/AR4/PearlHarborDamageReport.html

>>24312867

Mitsubishi A6M3 Zero

Designed by North American Aviation

Export variant 6

Made by Mitsubishi

Model/ mark 3

>>24312933

So you did know, that the US built the Japanese airfleet?

"He was the first to foster the myth that the Zero had been developed from American technology when he wrote, “North American Aviation Company people might be able to give the design.”

"One early memo helped perpetuate the myth that the Zero and its engine were copies of American technology: “Airplane: Good copy of Vultee made in 1936 for export,” in reference to the Vultee Vanguard then used in China. The engine was “a good copy of Pratt & Whitney 1535, with the reduction gear and about 650 horsepower.”

“The propeller is almost identical with our Hamilton-Standard 3E50-297 series,” noted the prop section. “The blades are made of aluminum alloy, and seem to be a perfect copy of ours. The internal parts of the propeller have regular part numbers as listed in our 03-A parts catalogue. The propeller is of about 1937 vintage, as the improvements noted were being used at that time.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/veterans/military-history/2024/12/07/how-recovering-a-japanese-zero-at-pearl-harbor-added-to-its-mystery/

>>24312917

Does it seem strange, that all the shells, oops i mean bombs, have the same trajectory as a naval broadside?

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/w/war-damage-reports/summary-of-war-damage-17-oct-1941-to-7-dec-1942.html

>>24313012

It looks planted, due to the fact its fuel tanks were empty, and it didn't catch fire.

The 3 carriers all had US Marine land attack aircraft aboard., one had the Vultee Vangauard P36? squadron which was supposed to be sent to Sweden, but was "consficated", for some reason.

Pearl Harbor Attack, 7 December 1941

Carrier Locations

On 7 December 1941, the three Pacific Fleet aircraft carriers were USS Enterprise (CV-6), USS Lexington (CV-2), and USS Saratoga(CV-3).

Enterprise: On 28 November 1941, Admiral Husband E. Kimmel sent TF-8, consisting of Enterprise, the heavy cruisers Northampton(CA-26), Chester (CA-27), and Salt Lake City (CA-24) and nine destroyers under Vice Admiral William F. Halsey, Jr., to ferry 12 Grumman F4F-3 Wildcats of Marine Fighting Squadron (VMF) 211 to Wake Island. Upon completion of the mission on 4 December, TF-8 set course to return to Pearl Harbor. Dawn on 7 December 1941 found TF-8 about 215 miles west of Oahu.

Lexington: On 5 December 1941, TF-12, formed around Lexington, under the command of Rear Admiral John H. Newton, sailed from Pearl to ferry 18 Vought SB2U-3 Vindicators of Marine Scout Bombing Squadron 231 to Midway Island. Dawn on 7 December 1941 found Lexington, heavy cruisers Chicago (CA-29), Portland (CA-33), and Astoria (CA-34), and five destroyers about 500 miles southeast of Midway. The outbreak of hostilities resulted in cancellation of the mission and VMSB-231 was retained on board [they would ultimately fly to Midway from Hickam Field on 21 December].

Saratoga: The Saratoga, having recently completed an overhaul at the Puget Sound Navy Yard, Bremerton, Washington, reached NAS San Diego [North Island] late in the forenoon watch on 7 December. She was to embark her air group, as well as Marine Fighting Squadron (VMF) 221 and a cargo of miscellaneous airplanes to ferry to Pearl Harbor.

Yorktown (CV-5), Ranger (CV-4) and Wasp (CV-7), along with the aircraft escort vessel Long Island (AVG-1), were in the Atlantic Fleet; Hornet (CV-8), commissioned in late October 1941, had yet to carry out her shakedown. Yorktown would be the first Atlantic Fleet carrier to be transferred to the Pacific, sailing on 16 December 1941.

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/c/carrier-locations.html

>>24313039

After the attack, the Marine pilots had no way of landing on a ship, so they diverted to French Frigate atoll, AKA Tern Island

>>24313012

Another fun fact, is that the pilot who crashed his Zero at Pearl harbor had a map, this one.

Oddly enough, it's in English. Apparently jap pilots don't read of write Japanese that well.

>>24313103

They were supposedly dropped from Vals at 10.000 feet, weird, because the cloud cover was 4000ft., which you can see from the picrel.

you will never understand world politics, until you understand the role opium plays….

Do you really want to know why FDR bombed Pearl Harbor?

The British East India Company took control of Bengal and Bihar, the opium-growing districts of India, and their ships dominate the opium trade out of Calcutta to China.

Then, around the 1820's, they found a new way of making money from the opium, Morphine, and this was the basis of the pharmaceutical industry.

The two big players, E. Merck & Company of Darmstadt, Germany, begins commercial manufacturing of morphine, and Jardine-Matheson & Company of London, who now owned the "bengal conssesesion", the right to buy all the west Indian opium production.

(Sassoon bought the rights to the Shar Valley Opium, Afghanistan, and made another fourtune)

Then, in 1895, The Bayer Company of Elberfeld, Germany, finds that diluting morphine with acetyls produces a drug without the common morphine side effects. Bayer begins production of diacetylmorphine and coins the name "heroin."

Now they didn't need to ship opium to china, and Jardine-Matheson had a complete monopoly on the Bengal opium.

At the same time, however, opium production ramped up in Laos and Burma, and because of the British monopoly, they had to find a new way to ship the product to China.

So they took it overland, from Burma to Hanoi, in what was then, French Indochina. This was of course, the first leg, of what came to be known as the "Ho Chi Minh trail".

Now the French took over the opium trade, it was a short hop from Hanoi to Hongkong, and profits soared.

Seeing the growing trade with China, around 1820?, two Massachusetts families, the Delanos and the Perkins' were drawn into the China trade along with John Jacob Astor, selling furs and ginseng, that they sourced from Daniel Boone.

Eventually the furs ran out, the ginseng was inferior and they had to find another product to sell to china, and that was Turkish opium. By 1818, Americans were, by some estimates, smuggling as much as a third of all the opium consumed in China

As word of the huge profits spread, the leading families with names like Astor, Cabot, Peabody, Brown, Archer, Hathaway, Webster, Delano, Coolidge, Forbes, Russell, Perkins, Bryant, otherwise known as Boston Brahmins, all joined in the opium trade to China.

In 1857, Warren Delano Jr. lost much of his wealth in a financial panic, so, like many other American speculators before him, he returned to the opium trade and quickly rebuilt his fortune. It was at his palatial estate, Algonac, in New York, that Franklin D. Roosevelt's parents were married.

This was during the Civil War, and Delano saw the need for opium as a pain killer for the wounded troops. In the American Civil War, the Union Army used 175,000 lb (80,000 kg) of opium tincture and powder and about 500,000 opium pills. Most likely the South used the same. (it may also transpire the war was constructed to provide a solid soruce of revenue; the families that profited were the same ones in the Senate)

This is how the US military became involved in the drug trafficking business; why use ports and pesky customs duties, when you can use US military bases, instead? Why use your own ships, the famous "Clipper Ships", and crews, when you can just use military ships to move the opium, completely unnoticed? From this point on, the US military will be wholly complicit in the drug trafficking business.

As we saw earlier, the French were also making huge profits from the opium trade, and the aristocrats that fled France to avoid the guillotine moved to Boston; one of those families was the Bouvier Family, Jackie Kennedys family. The French not only smuggled the opium from Hanoi to China, they also set up a huge business shipping opium to the USA, some legal, to Johnson and Johnson, some not so legal.

This trade in opium, became known as "the French Connection", and for about 100 years the Boston families made enormous fortunes.

As time progressed, long range flight became possible, and a US company called PanAm, set up the "clipper class" to China, flying boats from San Francisco, to Honolulu, Midway, Wake, Guam, Philippines to Indochina and China. Now it only took a couple of weeks to get the opium to the US, and profits boomed.

Then, in 1940, the Japanese occupied French Indochina, and cut the supply of opium from Burma to Hanoi, and FDR suddenly became concerned with Japanese atrocities committed in China. The Japanese, having seen the devestation opium addiction had caused, and thinking it was Brittish opium, burned it all.

The Japanese, being noble, and thinking they were allies to the US, informed the US of their impending invasion of British territories in the east, and, in what can only be described as the most audacious act of treachery ever seen, the US decided to use this as the basis of the false flag attack on Pearl Harbor.

FDR wanted his opium back….