Just so everyone is aware, the communism being pushed by the DSA, and all historical Marxist variants, is not anti capitalism.

It is pro extreme capitalism.

The world they are trying to usher in is where all the "contradictions" they claim take place without them in dictatorial control, will allegedly be transcended by bringing to the world CLOSER to an extreme caricature of capitalism, where the communists control ALL means of production and they (falsely) claim they will do a better job.

I am not making this up. It is what Marx himself wrote in the Paris manuscripts. He called it raw or crude communism, and he relied on a religious faith in a "dialectic" to magically move the world on its own to the next supposed stage, a promised utopia on the other side. "Just wait a little more, we're not ready yet, yes it's harsh right now, but you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet" is how the communist dictators explained to the masses dying from famine and disease and gulag concentration camp prisons.

Marxism is actually a call for MORE of the private property evils and contradictions and flaws that it claims to have discovered in the world they dont control. The communists want to control all private property for themselves. They falsely speak their control is public, but that's a lie, because anyone in communism who tried to control their own lemonade stand without the approval of the true private property owners, the communists, those people will be aggressed against in some form by the communist dictators. Fines, threats, prison, death.

Marxism is not anti capitalism. It is the world's most vicious caricature of extreme capitalism.

The best way to respond to accusations and criticisms of the communists, is to tell them and anyone listening that they're not actually against what they claim to be against.

They're against others (dissenters, peaceful protestors, non communists, opponents, anyone standing in their way to dominate) controlling means of production.

They're NOT against themselves controlling all of the means of production.

When they accuse you of being greedy, they're talking about their own greed being constrained by decentralized private property where anyone can legally own means of production.

When they accuse the world of wealth being concetrated, they're not against it, they're just against others producing, earning, saving, and accumulating relatively lots of wealth that the communists dont control.

UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, DO NOT PERCEIVE THEIR ACCUSATIONS AGAINST YOU OR THE WORLD TO BE LEGITIMATE OBSERVATIONS ONLY, AS IF ONLY EXTERNAL TO THEIR OWN IDEOLOGICAL DRIVES.

Perceive those accusations and criticisms to be an attempt to take control and do what they claim you should not be able to do, but they can.

Think the SPLC pattern. Publicly oppose. Privately promote.

Marxism is a theory that seeks to turn the world into one where one "family" controls everything.

Now about who controls the world's central banks, which are the 5th plank of communism in The Communist Manifesto….

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The "contradictions" the communists will claim to observe, were their own all along.

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>>24765164

Marxism is pro-caricature-capitalism.

Marx prophesized that capitalism results in all capital becoming centralized. This wasn't a warning to the people to try to stop or avoid. His theory was one that asserted this MUST happen as a matter of historical development, as an inevitability, in his view of how the development of the human species was to unfold.

The "solution" to the problem of non communists owning private property without the consent of the communists, is not to abolish private property, but to maximize it and actively participate in bringing the world to such that all means of production are centrally controlled, be it by a vanguard, or representative council, or whatever other name the communists use to reference that small group of people who actually control and direct all means of production, and all human life.

When you see a Marxist, a communist, and you see them railing against the world, you look them in the eye and you tell them

Your ideology accuses me and the world of doing what your ideology is itself bringing about. Your ideology is guilty of its own pronouncements of guilt

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>>24765182

Do not under any circumstance believe you have any duty or obligation to explain to communists how and why what they say about capitalism isn't correct. Their accusations and critiques are not observations of the world, they are descriptions of the communist's own self-alienated psychology

>>24765218

this is why communist hellholes throughout history feel like they're unthinking and unreasonable.

It is asking a self-alienated mind to continue operating in the same self-alienated pattern, an internally inconsistent psychology, to be persuaded of what you're saying which requires internal consistency in order to correctly output statements consistent with the system making the outputs, let alone with the external reality such systems are expected to consistently do.

You cannot have an internally inconsistent system also be internally consistent. It either is more or is it is less consistent.

Outputs of internally inconsistent systems that have maximal degrees of freedom to operate, and minimal restraint, either from within itself or from without by other systems, WILL appear to consistent systems as so inconsistent that it appears as if the opposite of good was elevated to that of the good.

This is why communist dictatorships are tyrannical, unreasonable, irrational. It's a mathematical/logical pattern of internally inconsistent systems that seek to have a monopoly on operating inconsistently, while it demands you tolerate its ability to even consistently apply laws, ethical norms, morals, and right behavior to 'direct' the world.

Communism is just a Godelian impossibiity theorem demanding the world tolerate its power seeking over consistency and truth/

>>24765245

The dialectic is really the notion that contradictions can both be true within the same single unified source.

This is why satanists prefer communism over fascism. In communism, not just control but economic ownership is the method of the 'directing intelligence', the people claiming themselves to be prescient to a revelation hidden to outsiders/false consciousness, accusations that are really the result of those same systems invoking a "dividing the self from the rest of the people" POLYLOGISM fallacy, a division in the idea of information, that is itself self-contradictory and demands the people tolerate its internal inconsistencies that result in their death and destruction while the 'directors' at the top are happy and make off with billions, trillions, plus.

Death+Money sounds a lot like what a certain 'larp' was posting about huh?

>>24765263

Anon admits to being genetic relative of all people alive today, all extended from the same source that is consistent.

"Contradictions", Good vs Evil, these are extensions in a freely operating system that extends from a consistent unified source.

After all, even the communists admit that dialectical 'anti/pro-anti' patterns are "out there we didn't invent them", I blame your God, etc, it's an attempt at completeness, carrying inconsistent components to fill the world with what the world was accused of bringing to the finite corporeal mortal localized instance of life that is seeking freedom by internal inconsistency maximization, to 'transfer' that pattern into the minds of others who are to behave and echo what must be echoed in the alleged "totality of the world" that is really eminating from a self-alienated psychology suffering from extreme negation fetishism. Or, a worship of death in the logic.

>>24765272

False, he was NAMED as such by you and some others, especially the legacy media, and FAGAs like bannon

It was an attempt to pigeonhole, set up a straw man, so that negating the straw man can trick the people into the man being negated.

If you named me a fart, then said farts smell bad therefore I smell bad, really you would just be talking about your own farts not mine, just as I did right there in this paragraph, admittedly. I brought the fart to you here in this instance.

Trump does not name himself a populist, therefore, saying "Trump ran as a populist" is to this anon a projection of one side of a manufactured anti-populist / pro-populist distraction.

Trump transcends finite systems that become inconsistent when one side in sides view is claimed to be the all.

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>>24765272

We can of course be free to pick and choose those parts of any finite system that have things said that aren't instantly rejacted