TYB
https://usaherald.com/nhi-vs-nhi-david-grusch-tells-joe-rogan-we-have-records-some-uap-crashes-may-be-evidence-of-nhi-at-war-with-each-other
https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-16175603/secret-underwater-ufo-base-david-grusch.html
https://cybernews.com/news/ufo-uap-disclosure-david-grusch-joe-rogan-ghostbusters/
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3578298/ufo-whistleblower-david-grusch-went-on-joe-rogan-and-had-some-wild-stories
https://finance.biggo.com/podcast/75f92c3fb0df2b95
https://finance.biggo.com/news/75f92c3fb0df2b95
https://x.com/disgustipated42/status/2105409011441148068
https://x.com/RedPandaKoala/status/2105441612847525912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYPXINFcvmI (Joe Rogan Experience #2560 - David Grusch Full)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmBXjIGxqI8 (JRE Clips: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch Reveals Recovered Crafts, Reptilian Aliens, and Other Sub-Types)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyeK_w1sYno (Grusch tells Joe Rogan about 'Alien' cadavers footage, Greek Gods & Reptilians - Psicoactivo #1171)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B7YVHN43G4 (Meagan Medick:Why Won't the Media Cover UFO's?TV SECRETS SPILLED! UFO Disclosure & the Media)
“NHI vs. NHI” David Grusch Tells Joe Rogan ‘We Have Records’ Some UAP Crashes May Be Evidence of NHI at War with Each Other
September 30, 2026
Key Takeaways
Former U.S. intelligence officer David Grusch told Joe Rogan that information he encountered suggests there may bemultiple, distinct forms of non-human intelligence — and that they may not all be on the same side.
Grusch described an alleged retrieval involving different types of non-human entities, raising an extraordinary possibility thatsome recovered UAP may have crashed because of conflict between NHI factions rather than mechanical failure.
For decades, one question has hovered over alleged UFO crash-retrieval stories; If an intelligence so advanced that it can travel through space, or perhaps manipulate physics in ways humans can’t — can build machines, that keep crashing?
Former U.S. intelligence officer and UAP whistleblower David Grusch may have just offered one of the strangest possible answers.
Maybe some of them didn't simply crash.
During a Sept. 30 appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience, Grusch discussed information and materials that he reviewed, suggesting that multiple distinct forms of what he calls non-human intelligence, or NHI, may be operating around Earth — and indicated that at least some of these groups may have come into conflict with one another.
In the 2-hour, 36-minute episode Grusch describes something much stranger than aliens visiting Earth. Grusch's new account potentially changes the framework of the crash-retrieval mystery.
In the interview, Grusch described information associating different types of NHI beings with different types of craft.
He discussed a species that resembles a gorilla, and tall-humanlike entities associated with boomerang or crescent-shaped craft. He also described reptilian-looking entities and associated them directly with the Tic-Tac-shaped vehicles.
Most remarkably, Grusch described an alleged retrieval site involving more than one type of entity — including what were characterized as the short greys and reptilian beings that stood above 7 ft. tall — which he said suggested conflict between separate NHI groups.
That claim remains unverified. USA Herald found no publicly released physical evidence establishing the existence of those entities or proving that a battle between non-human intelligences occurred.
But taken at face value, Grusch's account introduces an extraordinary possibility into the UAP phenomena.
The familiar model has always looked something like this:
Unknown craft → malfunction or accident → crash → human recovery.
Grusch's account raises another possibility:
NHI craft → encounter with another NHI group → conflict → damaged or destroyed craft → crash → human recovery.
That is a fundamentally different story.
What If Humans Aren't the Only Ones Shooting at Each Other?
If multiple technologically advanced non-human groups were actually operating around Earth, there would be no scientific reason to automatically assume they shared the same interests, culture, objectives or relationship with humanity.
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Human beings provide an obvious analogy.
An outside observer encountering an American F-35, a Russian Su-57 and a Chinese J-20 would be making a serious mistake by concluding that because all three are technologically advanced aircraft built by the same species, they therefore belong to the same organization.
Different technology can represent different governments, alliances and strategic objectives. If Grusch's allegations were eventually substantiated, something similar could conceivably apply to NHI.
From 'Non-Human Biologics' to Alleged NHI Conflict
The significance of Grusch's latest statements becomes clearer when compared with what he told Congress three years ago.
During his July 26, 2023 congressional testimony, Rep. Nancy Mace asked whether bodies had been recovered from alleged crashed craft.
Grusch responded that “biologics” had accompanied some recoveries and, when asked whether they were human or non-human, answered, “Non-human.”
Importantly, Grusch said that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge of the alleged program with whom he had spoken.
In a previous episode on Rogan, his earlier claim was essentially: Recovered craft + alleged non-human biological material.
The latest account goes considerably further: More specific details about the different NHI types + different craft + conflict between them.
There Is Still a Major Evidence Problem
Extraordinary testimony is not the same thing as independently verifiable evidence.
The Pentagon's All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office has reached conclusions directly at odds with the larger crash-retrieval narrative.
In its 2024 historical review, AARO said it found no empirical evidence that the U.S. government or private companies had been reverse-engineering extraterrestrial technology and no evidence that a U.S. government investigation had confirmed a UAP as extraterrestrial technology.
That does not mean every UAP has been explained.
AARO continues to publish cases it classifies as unresolved, including military imagery in which available information was insufficient for a definitive identification.
But unresolved does not mean extraterrestrial, much less evidence of competing non-human civilizations.
That evidentiary line is crucial.
The Question Nobody Thought We Would Have to Ask
For decades, popular culture imagined "the aliens" as though whatever might be visiting Earth would be doing so with one agenda - peace.
But what Grusch is describing, is something profoundly different.
If his sources are ultimately proven correct, humanity may not be confronting one mysterious intelligence at all.
What observers have grouped together under labels such as UFO, UAP, extraterrestrial or NHI could theoretically represent multiple actors with different technologies, interests and perhaps adversarial relationships with one another.
And that creates an unsettling reinterpretation of the crash-retrieval mystery.
Perhaps the question isn't simply why an extraordinarily advanced spacecraft would crash.
The question may eventually become - What brought it down?
For now, that remains a question — not an established fact.
But after Grusch's latest interview, it may be one investigators can no longer ignore.
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UFO experts claims US authorities 'aren't doing their job'
1 October 2026
UFO expert Avi Loeb has declared US authorities "aren't doing their job" if they can't explain the mysterious objects spotted in our skies.
Professor Avi Loeb of Harvard University, who is a leading US astrophysicist who sits on the UAP Science Advisory Council, has given his thoughts on the scale of the reporting of UAPs (unidentified anomalous phenomena) in documents released by the Pentagon and insisted officials need to take the investigation into the sightings more serious.
He told Popular Mechanics magazine: "The Pentagon is unable to tell us what some objects in the sky are, so they’re not doing their job. That’s a serious matter."
In the interview, Loeb also shrugged off criticism of his views on UFOs from the scientific community and insisted he's not afraid to speak his mind on such an important subject.
It comes after Loeb suggested glowing orbs seen in the sky could be a "warp drive" used by alien space craft as a transportation mechanism.
During an appearance on NewsNation, he explained: "If they have a cargo transportation system between habitable planets within their planetary system, we might see flashes of light from the beamer of a light sail.
"Technology that we can imagine. We don’t have such a system as of yet, but they may have it. In addition, they may also use for transportation a warp drive.
"That’s a bubble of distorted space-time that allows one to carry a cargo at an arbitrary speed across interstellar distances …
"If a warp bubble passes through the Earth’s atmosphere, it would cause a disturbance and produce a glowing ball of air. "
He added: "In fact, there are reports in the Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for UAP Encounters from the U.S. government, including excellent work by the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) in the Pentagon, about orbs.
"These are mysterious glowing spheres that they appear to be seeing and the FBI and other government agencies are reporting about.
"It’s not at all clear what some of these orbs are. Some of them might be drones but others are definitely not drones. And so it’s a detective story for us to figure out what technology might be employed if these orbs came from outer space."
https://www.femalefirst.co.uk/bizarre/ufo-experts-claims-authorities-job-1451478.html
moar Avi Loeb
https://avi-loeb.medium.com/the-event-horizon-of-alien-high-tech-ce5a290c6be5
https://avi-loeb.medium.com/watching-the-cosmic-party-while-it-lasts-4edfb4c7590e
WA’s UFO files: The bizarre sightings police secretly documented for decades
Oct 1 2026
With Spooktober upon us, we thought it was about time to revisit WA’s bizarre history of UFO sightings – and the once-secret police file that came with it.
It’s 1951 and a land inspector was camping out in his station wagon, about 60km east of Bridgetown.
Staring up into the night sky, at a time when the first artificial satellite was still years away, he noticed an unidentified flying object above him.
For about 20 minutes, he observed the object – a noiseless, wingless, tailless vessel which glowed with green and orange lights, before accelerating and disappearing into the night sky.
That sighting became the first of many strange encounters to find its way into the Police Department’s ‘UFO File’, which documented a number of unexplained sightings across WA.
For decades the file was kept secret up until 2007, when it was made public following a review of police records.
One of the earlier reports dates back to December 15, 1954, where two men driving from Carnarvon to Geraldton spotted a strange orange light in the sky.
Joking that the object could be a “flying saucer”, the two men kept driving for another 20 minutes, watching the light of the object appear and disappear. They then stopped the car and got out to take a better look, which is when they claim the light came towards them.
“When the machine got to within a quarter of a mile from us it started to turn and then we definitely saw what appears to be port holes along the side of the machine… the machine then completely disappeared,” the witness said.
In another sighting from August 5, 1961, a 37-year-old shearing contractor and five others were at a station 70 miles west of Meekatharra when they noticed about 12 strange flying objects described as being round and brightly silver.
At the time the contractor said the objects were “travelling at a fast speed and could be kept in sight for only about two minutes.”
The contractor also claimed the object produced “white substances which took on various shapes whilst falling to the ground.” “It was of snow white colour… it crumbled very easily,” he said.
On October 30, 1967, Alexander Spargo was driving towards Boyup Brook from Kojonup when his car suddenly came to a stop.
His motor turned off and his headlights went out when, out of nowhere, a tube of light descended close to the windscreen.
He said the tube of light had descended from an object shaped like a football, that had an iridescent blue colour with a pulsating glow appearance about nine metres in diameter.
Mr Spargo said he sat looking at the light for about five minutes, claiming to be in a state of shock. He mentioned there was no noise. The object then moved off very quickly and disappeared in a “flash”.
The report also mentioned he deliberately didn’t go to the press, for fear of being regarded publicly as a “crank” – something he admitted doing previously when reading about other people’s sightings.
Many more similar and strange sightings are documented in the 163-page file, with most reports coming from the ’50s, ’60s and ’70s.
For more on Perth’s possible encounters with the extraterrestrial, visit the State Records of WA.
Check out more spooky Perth stories via our YouTube, below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ1Ewnc5q54
https://perthisok.com/forgotten-perth/was-ufo-files-bizarre-sighting/
Is Ufology a Science or a Pseudo-Science?
October 1, 2026
Insights from philosopher of science Karl Popper help us think through the UFO question.
Key points
Karl Popper articulated falsifiability to distinguish between science and pseudo-science.
While ufology has been considered a pseudo-science, there may be some ways to make it more scientific.
UFOs might be light-based phenomena like holograms and not solid, material objects.
Sir Karl Popper (1902-1994), one of the most influential 20th-century philosophers of science, was determined to distinguish real science from pseudo-science.
It irked him that some so-called "scientific theories" seemed as easy to confirm as vague horoscope predictions. So what would Popper have to say about ufology—the study of UFOs (or UAPs)?
The Demarcation Problem
Popper was particularly troubled by Freudian psychoanalysis, Alfred Adler's individual psychology, and Karl Marx's theory of history because these theories seemed too easy to confirm with simple observations and confirmation bias (i.e., the tendency to observe only what you already believe).
For example, if our horoscope reports we will soon face "a significant challenge" in our lives, sure enough, something happens that fits the bill since life is full of challenges.
But there should be something special about scientific theories, Popper believed—something that sets them apart as a reliable path to knowledge and scientific progress.
For Popper, that something was the criterion of falsifiability: a theory is scientific only if it is falsifiable (i.e., if it can potentially be proven false).
If, by contrast, a theory can only be confirmed with cumulative supporting evidence, then it is pseudo-scientific.
A famous example of falsifiability is how Einstein’s theory of general relativity earned scientific status according to Popper's criterion.
The theory predicts that light rays from distant stars will be deflected (i.e., bent) by the sun’s gravitational field. And during a solar eclipse in 1919, astrophysicists observed that starlight was in fact deflected by the sun and by almost precisely the degree predicted by Einstein.
The theory is scientific, in Popper's sense, because it made a falsifiable prediction (it could have been that starlight was not deflected or not to the degree predicted by Einstein), though it was not in fact falsified.
Ufology and Falsifiable Predictions
From what I've observed, ufologists are mainly concerned with making observations and sharing information—both important aspects of any investigative enterprise, but not yet "scientific" according to Popper's criterion.
To be scientific in a Popperian sense, ufology would need to make falsifiable predictions; for example, that the night-sky objects people are calling UFOs are really just holograms or a play of light, and not physical objects at all. Why propose this?
If UFOs are just light, this could account for many of the UFO reports, including the glowing orbs, light triangles, and strings of lights famously witnessed over New Jersey a few years ago.
We haven't made contact with these objects while they are aflight, so we cannot assume they are actual physical objects with characteristics like weight and material composition.
Crafts Unlike Any We've Ever Seen Before
The many UFO sightings reported by pilots while in flight typically include references to instantaneous acceleration, right-angle pivots, and absence of sound and propulsion (like exhaust plumes)—all of which sound more like apparitions than physical crafts moving through spacetime. These elusive UFOs we can see but never catch invoke the metaphorical cat chasing the laser pointer around the living room.
This UFOs-are-light hypothesis does not speak to reports of crashed crafts people claim to have touched or physical traces like purported burn marks left at UFO crash sites.
But it does begin to advance one subset of so-called UFOs—the night-sky light phenomena—as a potential subject of scientific investigation.
Popper observed that "science is one of the very few human activities […] in which errors are systematically criticized and fairly often, in time, corrected" and that "in science, we often learn from our mistakes, and […] can speak clearly and sensibly about making progress there" (Popper, 1963).
Following Popper here, could our error be in assuming these UFOs are solid, physical crafts, which incites fear when they appear to fly dangerously close to our aircraft and hover above our cities and nuclear power plants?
If they're not such objects, and are instead light-based phenomena, then we could begin to make progress in other, more promising directions toward a true understanding of what these things are and why they're here.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/the-philosopher-is-in/202609/is-ufology-a-science-or-a-pseudo-science
https://x.com/overclassifiedx/status/2105649801438314998
neandrewthal
@disgustipated42
David Grusch says John Podesta, James clapper and others he knows personally were both proving top cover for Tom Delonge/TTSA and it was a part of the wider Clinton disclosure plan
“There was an inside job to prep the battle space for Hillary. Jim Clapper and some other people that I know personally were, were providing some top cover and that was gonna be the thing. the Clintons were trying to do it back in the day.”
“prior to the 2016 election, Hillary talked publicly, and this is public record, that if elected she would re- release the UFO files.
So what happened was, you know, John Podesta greenlit a, uh, call it a acclimatization activity, a popularization activity, and, you know, that's why Tom DeLonge got his advisors.
That's why General McCaslin talked to him. It wasn't because General McCaslin, Robert Weiss at Lockheed, other people, that's all in WikiLeaks, um, just wanted to talk to Tom 'cause he was a rock star and, you know, was infatuated by his celebrity and wanted to help on a sci-fi movie.
It was because they were given top cover to see Tom as a public figure who had the touch of the youth”
11:50 AM · Oct 1, 2026
https://x.com/disgustipated42/status/2105732050385031522
moar
https://x.com/maniaUFO/status/2105649464006652363
https://x.com/UAPWatchers/status/2105762282995134592
Black Triangles, Pilot Reports & the Search for UAP Evidence | JMill & Ryan Graves
Oct 1, 2026
What are pilots reporting, and how do we turn those accounts into evidence we can study?
I sit down with Jonathan Miller, known as JMill, to discuss his work on sensemaking and MIT's Confronting Unknowns program.
We explore how researchers can study ambiguous data, separate signal from noise, and stay open to new information without jumping to conclusions.
Then we turn the tables. JMill asks me about the encounters that led me to speak publicly, my 2023 congressional testimony, and the work underway at Americans for Safe Aerospace.
We discuss pilot reporting, witness privacy, the development of a structured research database, and a longer-term vision for connecting witness accounts with sensor data.
We close with accounts reported to ASA, including luminous spheres, objects described near aircraft, and black triangles.
I discuss what witnesses have described, how satellite effects can complicate observations, and why credible testimony still needs careful investigation.
These are reported experiences and open questions, not established explanations of what the objects are.
Learn more, report an encounter, become a member, and support our work at https://www.safeaerospace.org/
Learn more about JMill's sense making work at: https://www.sensemaking.wtf
Chapters
00:00 Opening: pilot reports and unanswered questions
01:05 Introducing Jonathan Miller (JMill)
04:27 MIT's Confronting Unknowns and sensemaking
08:21 Finding signal in ambiguous data
11:57 Discussing government UAP releases
18:39 Turning the tables: JMill interviews Ryan
20:06 Navy encounters and the road to Congress
24:46 Pilot reporting protections and state policy
29:47 What ASA's reports can tell us
32:15 Building a structured research database
34:37 Oshkosh plans and membership support
39:40 Sharing witness accounts through the podcast
42:36 Protecting witness privacy
43:57 How ASA's mission has evolved
46:41 A vision for connected sensor networks
51:30 Confirmation bias and independent analysis
58:56 Patterns in the reports: spheres and lights
01:00:44 Satellite effects and ambiguous observations
01:04:08 A close-range account from Marines
01:05:57 Black triangles and reported near-misses
01:09:24 Why reporting matters and how to help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXBqRjpeUA4
https://x.com/uncertainvector
extra disclosure dejour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgrjRS57rUI (Linda Moulton Howe: Sept 30, 2026 - Are E. T.s doing genetic experiments deep underground in some U. S. military bases?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ArFhxuVAY (Alien Addict: Aliens: Reason To Believe - RARE UFO FOOTAGE!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3vavUBIOms (Forbidden Knowledge News: Cathy O’Brien & Dr Juliette Engle | Mkultra & The 100 Year Plan, Satanic Neuroscience)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaoI6gF8IB0 (Raelian Movement: Rael, You cannot escape change, so choose it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiJyUk4aOjY (Polarity Josh: Is Australia’s TRUE History Being Hidden From Us?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgIvcmi83GM (Tupacabra: NUREMBERG - 1561 A.D.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Cm4X_XcWY (Angry Astronaut: Pentagon Unveils Shapeshifting UAP Technology!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT2AgZy706s Camp Gagnon: DISTURBING Proof the Nephilim are Real)
Apologies the video was small, thats all he had, and I can't find the other larger one we used to pass around here.