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MACARTHUR: Yeah. In 1957, President Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard to protect African-American students integrated into a previously all-white high school. By executive order, President George H.W. Bush deployed active duty troops to the city of Los Angeles in 1992 to quell the violence set off in response to the Rodney King verdict.
CORNISH: So what do we know about how the National Guard has been deployed in, say, support roles for border enforcement? I understand it's been done during the Bush and Obama administrations.
MACARTHUR: It has. In 2006, President Bush federalized the National Guard and sent them to the U.S.-Mexico border. In 2010, President Obama did the same. The real distinction here is what they're actually doing when they're mobilized and deployed to the border. As long as either a federalized National Guard or active duty military participate in passive activities, then it's allowed.
CORNISH: So the key word here is passive activities. What does that mean?
MACARTHUR: Well, that's generally a support role to the U.S. Border Patrol or anybody else that's securing our borders. It would be providing surveillance, providing assistance, providing military equipment and training on how to use that equipment. It's anything short of search, seizure and arrest.
CORNISH: So President Trump is working through governors to make this happen now. Is there a possibility that, say, a state could refuse - right? - could say look; we don't want to be involved in this?
MACARTHUR: Correct. The governor is the - you know, is the commander in chief for that - for those National Guard soldiers. And the governor here, she could say, you know what? We're not standing up our National Guardsmen and putting them on the border. So a governor can refuse the request of a president.
CORNISH: Is there a way that the president or administration could say, look; this is a national security issue?
MACARTHUR: Certainly the president can declare immigration as a national emergency and involuntarily mobilize National Guardsmen. But still the Posse Comitatus Act would still be in effect, which would not allow the National Guard to perform civil law enforcement functions.
CORNISH: What are you going to be looking for in the next few days as we hear more details about this?
MACARTHUR: Well, what I'm interested in hearing about is the actual application of how the president is going to put this into effect. Is he going to get the permission of the governors to bring them on in Title 10 federal status? What are the specifics of how you're going to do this and what you're going to actually do?
CORNISH: So it's not impossible. There are just limits.
MACARTHUR: Correct.
CORNISH: That's law professor Timothy MacArthur of George Mason University. Thank you for speaking with us.
MACARTHUR: Thank you for having me.
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/05/599895184/why-president-trump-cant-directly-order-national-guard-troops-to-u-s-mexico-bord
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