Still having a major "crisis of faith" over Q's statements re: Edward Snowden being a traitor. This is complete anathema to my beliefs. I consider him a hero for what he did.
We could all die because of what he revealed is being done to us. Mass surveillance is tyrannical and an existential threat. The constitution outlaws it for a reason.
I don't think he did anything wrong. I think he's a hero. I think the NSA is doing something VERY wrong. Mass surveillance is tyranny.
So, if anyone questions something Q says, they're immediately dehumanized as a shill and rejected? I thought this place encouraged questioning everything. You sound like a cult member.
If the NSA conducts mass surveillance it should be destroyed. Mass surveillance is tyranny, the complete antithesis of freedom. The constitution outlaws it.
Bill Binney is indeed a hero. So's Drake, Tice, Kiriakou, the list goes on and on. May there be more like them, and may there be more like Snowden.
I want evidence. This is something I can't just take at face value. Show me proof of Snowden being sent into NSA to disrupt it on behalf of CIA. Until I see it, I'll assume this is just more IC horseshit to villainize Snowden.
I see no reason to view him as anything but a hero. What he did changed the world. It brought truth, and if you ever find yourself at odds with truth, you might be walking down the wrong path.
No, mainly a victim of circumstance who got people killed.
I'm fully aware of his job history. I'm not sure how that's evidence of a CIA plot to harm the NSA. The very idea of US intelligence agencies being in a secret war among themselves is idiotic.
The idea of a secret war between CIA and NSA is so pants-on-head retarded that it barely warrants acknowledgement.
I don't think he's a traitor, but the greatest hero of my lifetime. I hope there are many more with his character and ability to do what's right.
No, he's not. The ones on the dark side, run secret torture prisons. The ones on the dark side, practice mass surveillance. This is tyranny. This is as evil as it gets.
If the NSA practices mass surveillance it should be crippled, because it's an existential threat to everyone alive. Mass surveillance facilitates genocides.
The CIA certainly has an impressive body count and history. But the NSA is the existential threat to everyone alive. If you want to understand why, see: Holocaust, Hollerith machines.
Those machines were the NSA's ancestors, in a way. That's what mass surveillance can do.
EXISTENTIAL THREAT.
Snowden merely revealed the existence of Xkeyscore, not the source code.