Anonymous ID: ccf768 Dec. 26, 2018, 4:55 p.m. No.4479348   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4441666

No, no it does not. The Q sourse is a fiction created by Germans as a lost gospel that is the basis for all the others.

 

What you're lying about is the Jefferson bible, where Jefferson only included Jesus' words, and cut out all of Jesus' divinity.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Dec. 27, 2018, 4:59 p.m. No.4492252   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4488736

It's delusional to note that a man in the middle of a crucifixion did not get baptised? Yet was in Paradise with Jesus that very day, and then led to heaven? How is that delusional? And what exactly do you think "faith without the works of the Holy Spirit evident is dead" actually means? As a tip, is faith in the buddha dead faith?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Dec. 27, 2018, 5 p.m. No.4492263   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2414 >>2451

>>4492244

Spiritual maturity is an ongoing event; sanctification can only come by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in a temple/body whose sins are forgiven, thus not causing the Holy Spirit to flee as He fled Adam and Jesus. Sanctified, set apart, happens at the same time as justification; the same instant. We're looking forward to glorification, which has not happened to either one of us yet, but will certainly happen at the right time.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Dec. 28, 2018, 11:17 a.m. No.4502487   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4493740

Trinity

 

John 1 says that in the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God and the Word (Jesus) was Godโ€ฆ..and the Word (Jesus) became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

In John 10:30 Jesus said that He and the Father are one.

In John 14:9 He said that anyone who has seen Him has seen the Father.

In Colossians 1:15 Paul wrote that Jesus is the (visible) image of the invisible God.

In Hebrews 1:3 Jesus is called the exact representation of Godโ€™s glory

In Hebrews 1:8 God Himself called Jesus God.

Godโ€™s Spirit is presumed to be one and the same with God just as your spirit is presumed to be one and the same with you. So if God and Jesus are one and the same, and God and His Spirit are one and the Same, then the three are one.

 

There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 45:5-6). Yet there are three persons presented as deity in Scripture: the Father (John 6:27; Colossians 1:3), the Son (John 1:1-3, 14; 8:24; 20:28-29; Romans 9:5; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1; Hebrews 1:10-12) and the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17; Acts 5:3-4; 2 Samuel 23:2-3; 2 Corinthians 3:18). Lastly, these three are presented as distinct persons (John 8:16-18; Luke 11:1; 3:21-22; Galatians 4:6). Thus from Scripture we learn that although there is one God, there are three distinct persons who are deity. So the Trinity is the biblical position to hold to once one examines what Scripture teaches.

 

Evidence of the Trinity:

Genesis 1:2 - Holy Spirit of God

Genesis 1:26-27 - God refers to Himself in a plural form

Isaiah 28:19 God refers to Himself as both I and Us

Matthew 28:19 - Baptize in the name of GOD. Notice they share a name. It does not say baptize in the 'names'

 

Evidence of Jesus' Divinity:

Matthew 16:16 - Jesus is THE Son of God, not 'A' Son of God

Colossians 2:8-9 - ALL of the fullness of the divinity of God dwells in Christ bodily

Luke 8:39 - Jesus tells the man to tell his people what God had done for him, and the man tells them what JESUS did

John 5:18 - Jesus makes Himself equal to God

John 5:23 - We must honor the Son JUST AS we honor the Father.

John 10:38 - Jesus and the Father are in one another, or in 'union' as the JW translation puts it.

>Union: the action or fact of joining or being joined

John 20:28 - Thomas refers to Jesus as both Lord and God

 

The Holy Spirit is a part of God, not just some force that God uses.

John 14:16-17 - The Holy Spirit is a Helper, or a person who helps.

John 14:26 - Again, the Holy Spirit is a Helper; Also shows Jesus' divinity by showing He can send the Holy Spirit

John 15:26 - The Holy Spirit can bear witness

John 16:7-8 The Holy Spirit is referred to as a 'He', again shows that Jesus can send Him

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Dec. 28, 2018, 11:18 a.m. No.4502491   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4493740

Trinity in the OT

 

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1).

The Hebrew word for God is Elohim. Elohim is a plural noun but it is used here with a singular verb bara. Elohim speaks of the true God and is always used with a singular verb. In some sense God is both singular and plural

 

God Says Let Us

Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likenessโ€ฆ (Genesis 1).

The phrase let us again gives the idea of plurality. The word us cannot refer to angels because angels do not create

 

And now the Sovereign LORD has sent me, with his Spirit. This is what the LORD says - your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: I am the LORD your God, who teaches you what is best for you, who directs you in the way you should go (Isaiah 48). In verse sixteen, God the Son is speaking. He identifies the Father [the Sovereign Lord] and His Spirit as having sent Him. In the next verse, the Son is clearly spoken of as the Lord

 

Father

Have we not all one father? Has not one God created us? Why then are we faithless to one another, profaning the covenant of our ancestors? (Malachi 2)

 

Son

Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. Your royal scepter is a scepter of equity; you love righteousness and hate wickedness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions (Psalm 45)

 

I have set my king on Zion, my holy hill. I will tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to me, You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in him (Psalm 2)

 

The Holy Spirit

The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him - the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD - and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears (Isaiah 11)

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Dec. 28, 2018, 11:20 a.m. No.4502514   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2615

>>4492298

Your post does not make any sense.

The wheat and the tares? True believers and hypocrites, and the Lord says to let the hypocrites stay in the church, because trying to get rid of them will also damage some of the true believers by mistake.

 

The sower and the seed is about the telling and hearing of the gospel, and has nothing to do with sin. The birds of the air are demons; if Jesus removed all sin, why allow demons to remain on earth, again?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Dec. 28, 2018, 11:22 a.m. No.4502543   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>4697 >>2391

>>4492694

No, that's absurd.

Jesus baptizes with Spirit and fire.

If you are not baptized in the Spirit, Jesus will baptize you in fire. Eternal fire. Held down, never to rise. The road to destruction is broad and leads to eternal hell, and MOST are on it.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 10 a.m. No.4595395   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>5638 >>5640 >>5742 >>5849

>>4595353

Moses was told to speak to the rock.

Moses struck the rock instead.

The Rock is Christ Jesus.

If you see the rock Moses struck, it appears to be a huge broken heart with rock flowing from it like water.

For his sin, Moses was denied entry into the Promised Land.

 

It was not, as you say, a model of how Christ was struck with the "rod of divine Justice", as Christ would never be struck with the "rod of divine Justice", being God.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 10:02 a.m. No.4595426   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4523793

That question goes to the heart of what Jesus meant by "you will do greater things than I" in sharing the gospel to the world. His ministry was quite short and quite limited. But the ministry of the Holy Spirit through us is massive, and worldwide, and will bring many into the fold.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 10:05 a.m. No.4595452   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4553301

Here's something you need to know about Hope.

You cannot have Hope if you have hope. It is a paradox. By holding on to the (false) hope as you do, you deny yourself the true Hope that comes from God. So you basically have one "hope slot", and if you fill it with your own hope, you deny God the slot He needs in your life to give you true Hope, which is Christ Jesus.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 11:05 a.m. No.4596214   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4595640

You are not required to believe anything, much less "magic words".

Believe whatever you want to believe.

I have no traditions that prevent me from being taught the scriptures by the only teacher Who matters. In fact, I shun the traditions of men, knowing that God deems them foolish at best. Where do you think Plato got the idea for the Logos? Maybe from Genesis?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 11:07 a.m. No.4596234   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>6580 >>7575

>>4595789

It absolutely does.

 

2 Peter 3

14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvationโ€”as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

 

The writings of Paul are confirmed as part of the "rest of the Scriptures."

 

Are you a Jew?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 11:11 a.m. No.4596285   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>6693

>>4595640

>The New Testament authors forgot what Jesus taught

Error 1

>which weren't defined to be magic until hundreds of years later.

Error 2

>You have a tradition that says John couldn't read the Hebrew Genesis

Error 3

>You prefer to believe the tradition of a church that lost it's first love: Deified Mary.

Dueling Error 4

>Welcomed the Judaisers: adopted Jewish ritual.

Error 5

>Practiced the doctrine of Balaam: Compromise with governement and flesh.

Error 6

>defined by a mere disagreement of doctrine,

Error 7

>I am happy to be.

Error 8

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 11:43 a.m. No.4596760   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4596580

All scripture is inspired by Godโ€ฆ.

Therefore, any writing not inspired by God, is not scripture.

Any writing inspired by God, is scripture.

Magic is of the devil, your father, so I know little about it, and leave that up to you to decide for yourself.

Yes, you cast doubt on the Word of God, because, again, you are a child of the devil, and that is the first attack the devil made on Adam and Eve: "Did God really say that?โ€ฆ.."

I never said you were a heretic.

You're a lost person, a child of satan, who seeks to lead other people to hell with you. By your own word.

The Old Testament foreshadows the New; the New reveals the Old.

Your asinine assumptions about me, beginning with the absolutely baseless and ridiculous charge of being a papist, come from your complete and utter lack of self awareness and spiritual discernment.

 

Are you a Jew?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 11:44 a.m. No.4596781   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7043

>>4596693

>>The New Testament authors forgot what Jesus taught

 

>Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

Does not state that the NT authors forgot anything.

 

mumbles in papist

Has nothing to do with Jesus Christ.

 

The authors of the bible cited many others; Paul cited several philosophers, for instance. Plato had no concept of who the true Logos, the Word, was. And neither do you.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 11:55 a.m. No.4596975   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2475

>>4596891

Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.โ€

 

โ€œWell did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

 

โ€˜This people honors Me with their lips,

But their heart is far from Me.

And in vain they worship Me,

Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.โ€™

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 12:03 p.m. No.4597112   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4597043

It's difficult to converse with dead people, so please bear with me. When the Holy Spirit inspired Job to write about what happened in heaven between God and satan, did the Holy Spirit "remind" Job of what he already knew, or did the Holy Spirit bring "all things" to his rememberance, as though he was there?

 

Of course you cannot understand these things; you do not have the Holy Spirit as a teacher, instead leaning on your own understanding. You have cited as a proof text for "the apostles forgot everything about Jesus" the "Holy Spirit bringing all things to their rememberance", not even hinting at an understanding that "all things" did not limit itself by their own personal experiences.

 

Not do you know that men write the scripture as inspired by the Holy Spirit, and then form groups with other men to find out what they just wrote means.

 

How could you?

 

Are you a Jew?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 12:05 p.m. No.4597142   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7593 >>7614 >>7924

>>4597043

Only one of us makes baseless, foolish, and false assumptions.

 

1Cor 15:33

Evil communications corrupt good manners.

Quoted from Thais, a work done by โ€œMenanderโ€œ, a writer from the 3rd Century BC, who in turn is supposed to have quoted from another Scholar named โ€œEuripidesโ€.

 

Titus 1:12

The Cretians are always liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

In writing to Titus Paul quotes a description of the Cretans taken from โ€œEpimenidesโ€œ. Paul calls Epimenides โ€œone of themselves, a prophet of their ownโ€.

 

Acts 17:24-29

In Acts 17:18 Paul is encountered by Epicureans and Stoics. Paulโ€™s first sentence struck directly at the โ€œEpicureanโ€ theory (the origin of the world by mere coincidence and of atoms) and arrayed himself with the โ€œStoicsโ€ in their doctrine of the (Divine Wisdom and Providence creating and ruling all things). His speech is made up of words quoted from a Roman Stoic Philosopher called Lucius Annaeus Seneca as mentioned below.

 

Acts 17:24

Paul went on to say, โ€œGod dwelleth not in temples made with hands.โ€

Seneca, the most prominent contemporary representative of Stoicism, had put their doctrine into these words, โ€œThe whole world is the temple of the immortal gods,โ€ and โ€œTemples are not to be built to God of stones piled on high. He must be consecrated in the heart of every man.โ€

 

Acts 17:25

Paul said, โ€œNeither is God served by menโ€™s hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he himself giveth to all life, and breath, and all things.โ€

Seneca put the same truth in this form: โ€œGod wants not ministers. How so? He himself ministereth to the human race.โ€

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 12:06 p.m. No.4597149   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7614

>>4597043

Acts 17:26-28a

Paul said, โ€œGod made of one every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth.โ€

Seneca agrees, โ€œWe are members of a vast body. Nature made us kin, when she produced us from the same things and to the same ends.โ€

 

Paul said, โ€œGod is not far from each one of us; for in him we live, and move, and have our being.โ€

Seneca wrote, โ€œGod is at hand everywhere and to all men.โ€ and again, โ€œGod is near thee ; he is with thee ; he is within.โ€

 

Acts 17:28b

Paul says, For we are also his offspring.

In Paulโ€™s speech at Athens, he quotes from โ€œcertain of your own poetsโ€. The poet he is talking about is Aratus, and this is a line found in the Phaenomena of Aratus

 

Acts 17:29

Then Paul proceeded, โ€œBeing then the offspring of God, we ought not to think the godhead is like unto gold or silver or stone, graven by art or device of men.โ€

Seneca parallels the thought again: โ€œThou shalt not form him of silver and gold: a true likeness of God cannot be molded of this material.

 

Gal 5:23b

Paul says, Against such there is no law.

Roman 2:14b

Paul says, Are a law unto themselves.

Paulโ€™s words are eerily familiar to Aristotleโ€˜s saying of men eminent for wisdom and virtue, โ€œAgainst such there is no law, for they themselves are a law,โ€

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 12:06 p.m. No.4597152   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7614

>>4597043

1Cor 9:24a

Paul says, โ€œKnow ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize?

Plato says, โ€œBut such as are true racers, arriving at the end, both receive the prizes and are crownedโ€

 

Rom 7:22,23

Paul says, โ€œBut I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.โ€

Plato says,โ€There is a victory and defeat โ€“ the first and best of victories, the lowest and worst of defeats โ€“ which each man gains or sustains at the hands not of another, but of himself; this shows that there is a war against ourselves โ€“ going on in every individual of us.โ€

 

Phillip 3:19

Paul says, โ€œWhose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly thingsโ€œ.

Plato gives a vivid description of those gluttonous and intemperate souls whose belly was their God, in Platoโ€™s work called โ€œthe Republicโ€.

 

Rom 8:5

Paul says, โ€œFor they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh;โ€

Gal 6:8

Paul says, โ€œFor he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruptionโ€

Plato speaks of โ€œto be carnally-minded was deathโ€ in Phaedo

 

2 Cor 4:4

Paul says, โ€œIn whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe notโ€

Plato speaks of โ€œthe God of this world blindeth the eyes of his votariesโ€ in Theaetetus

In the book Paul and His Epistles โ€“ D.A. Hayes writes โ€œPlato would have pictured for him the truth that the God of this world blindeth the eyes of his votaries, and Paul never could have forgotten the picture when he had once read it.โ€ โ€“ Theaet., 176; Rep., 7, 514

(Please note that the above point has been corrected as rightly pointed out by dear brother, Dan Angelov โ€“ my sincere apologies for misquoting it before) I wish to thank Angelov for re-checking the post and communicating this correction.

 

Php 1:21

Paul says, โ€œFor me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.โ€

Plato says, โ€œNow if death is like this, I say that to die is gain.โ€

 

2Tim 4:6

Paul says, โ€œI am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand

To be with Christ, which is far better.โ€

Plato says, โ€œThe hour of departure has arrived, and we go our ways, I to die and you to live. which is better God only knows.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 12:06 p.m. No.4597158   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7614

>>4597043

1Cor 13:12

Paul says, โ€œFor now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face.โ€

Plato says, I am very far from admitting that he who contemplates existences through the medium of thought, sees them only โ€œthrough a glass, darkly,โ€ anymore than he who sees them in their working effects.

 

1Thess 5:15

Paul says, โ€œSee that none render evil for evil unto any man.โ€

Plato says, Then we ought not to retaliate or render evil for evil to anyone, whatever evil we may have suffered from him.

 

1Co 8:2

Paul says, โ€œAnd if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

Socrates says, For my part, as I went away, I reasoned with regard to myself: โ€œI am wiser than this human being. For probably neither of us knows anything noble and good, but he supposes he knows something when he does not know, while I, just as I do not know, do not even suppose that I do. I am likely to be a little bit wiser than he in this very thing: that whatever I do not know, I do not even suppose I know. (Apology, 21d โ€“ kindly submitted by Brother Joseph)

 

1Cor 9:16

Paul says, โ€œFor necessity is laid upon me ; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!โ€

Plato says, But necessity was laid upon me โ€“ the word of God I thought ought to be considered first.

 

Acts 14:15

Paul and Barnabas say, โ€œWe also are men of like passions with youโ€œ.

Plato says, I am a man, and, like other men, a creature of flesh and blood, and not of โ€ wood or stone,โ€ as Homer says.

 

2Cor 7:2

Paul says, โ€œI speak because I am convinced that I never intentionally wronged anyoneโ€œ.

Plato says, We have wronged no man ; we have corrupted no man ; we have defrauded no man.

 

Rom 12:4

Paul says, โ€œFor as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same officeโ€œ.

Socrates says โ€œTo begin with, our several natures are not all alike but different. One man is naturally fitted for one task, and another for another.โ€

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 12:07 p.m. No.4597164   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7390 >>7614

>>4597043

Eph 1:22,23

Paul says, โ€œAnd hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.โ€

Plato says โ€œFirst, then, the gods, imitating the spherical shape of the universe, enclosed the two divine courses in a spherical body, that, namely, which we now term the head, being the most divine part of us and the lord of all that is in us; to this the gods, when they put together the body, gave all the other members to be servants.โ€

 

1Cor 12:14-17

Paul explains that โ€œa body is not one single organ, but many. โ€ฆ Suppose the ear were to say, โ€˜Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the bodyโ€™, it does still belong to the body. If the body were all eye, how could it hear? If the body were all ear, how could it smell? But, in fact, God appointed each limb and organ to its own place in the body, as he chose.โ€

Socrates asks Protagoras, โ€œIs virtue a single whole, and are justice and self-control and holiness parts of it? โ€ฆ as the parts of a face are parts-mouth, nose, eyes and ears.โ€ Socrates then probes into the metaphor further by asking Protagoras if they agree that each part serves a different purpose, just as the features of a face do, and the parts make the whole, but each serves a different purposeโ€“โ€œthe eye is not like the ear nor has it the same function.โ€

 

1Co 12:25

Paul says โ€œThat there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.โ€

Socrates says, that the best-governed city is one โ€œwhose state is most like that of an individual man. For example, if the finger of one of us is wounded, the entire community of bodily connections stretching to the soul for โ€˜integrationโ€™ with the dominant part is made aware, and all of it feels the pain as a wholeโ€

 

Now, you were saying something about my grasp of the English language?

 

Care to continue?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 1:04 p.m. No.4598019   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8103

>>4597913

When you lie, you do the work of the devil.

As on Mars Hill, Paul started with what his audience was familiar with, and went to tell them that their "Unknown God" was Christ Jesus.

As I worship the truth, I do not fear any new information; the truth is always on Jesus' side, and lies are always on your side.

Are you a Jew? I find it ponderous that you cannot answer that question, as you already have shown an appetite for lying.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 1:09 p.m. No.4598080   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8148

>>4597924

Do you question the validity of any of the cited examples of Paul using the local's philosophers and intellectuals as a jumping off point to teach them the gospel of Jesus Christ?

No?

Nothing?

Just attacking them as "copy paste"?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 2:05 p.m. No.4598875   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8943 >>8950 >>8979 >>9253

>>4598799

Jesus is the Father, who is Jesus, through the binding of the Holy Spirit. If you see Jesus, you see the Father.

 

You don't know what you think you know, and you are not what you think you are. If you want to be a born again believer, read, say, and do what Paul writes of in Romans 10:9-13.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 2:15 p.m. No.4599019   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9031

>>4598943

You contradict yourself so much that even other godless people can point and laugh.

I never called you a heretic.

I never said anything about John getting Logos from Philo or from Genesis.

You keep stating that you believe mutually exclusive things.

Then you keep wondering why your falseness is so easy to spot.

 

I'm not posting to you, Anon. I'm posting to anyone lurking and reading who thinks you might be a Christian, to disabuse them of the notion.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 2:35 p.m. No.4599302   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9321

>>4599111

And again, your profound misunderstanding of the bible is readily apparent.

"The LORD said to my Lord" is not an identity; it's the difference between YHWH and Adonai, and used by Jesus to show the Jews (people like you) that David said the Messiah is David's Lord/Adonai, which is impossible since the Messiah would be David's descendant, and therefore never superior to David.

 

Unless that Adonai = YHWH.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 2:39 p.m. No.4599361   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9407

>>4599217

And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

 

I think this is what you are getting at.

 

If Jesus is God, then calling Jesus "God" is not blaspheming God, but identifying Him.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 4, 2019, 2:59 p.m. No.4599579   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9703 >>0749

>>4599483

I like you. But you do things that muddle your message. I like your antipathy to both the Roman and the Greek churches, them being pagan in origin and the two iron legs of the statue in Daniel, ruling the world for a thousand years each from Rome (east) and Rome (west).

Everything about the bible is from the Hebrews; the bible is the history of mankind centered around the Hebrews. For instance, the only empires God really cares to discuss were the Babylonian, Medeo-Persian, Greek and Roman, and then the Antichrist's empire, all of which dealt with the Hebrews. None of the other empires on earth matter to God. Chinese, African, Akkadian, none of them. Only as they touch the Hebrews.

 

Jesus is the Seed of the woman

the seed of Abraham

the root of David

the Lion of the Tribe of Judah

the Jewish Messiah

the King of the Jews

 

No man has said he is a Jew for 2,400 years without lying; hence my question to people as to whether or not they are a Jew.

 

Because none exist. Not really. "If you have not the Son, you have not the Father."

 

Also, voted for Reagan. You're not the only oldfag here.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 7, 2019, 10:48 a.m. No.4647647   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>4534

>>4629120

Maybe it's time you reconsidered your stance that you do not need a savior, and that Jesus was tortured to death for nothing.

 

Revelation 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

Is your name in the Lamb's Book of Life? No?

 

Do you not practice lawlessness, by violating God's commandments?

 

The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (Matt 13)

 

Which baptism did you request from Jesus?

 

I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. (Matt 3)

 

No, your "universal salvation" is just another in a long list of lies told by the devil and believed by fools.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 7, 2019, 11:27 a.m. No.4648293   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9293

>>4647940

If it posts like a gnostic, sounds like a gnostic, reasons like a gnostic, and pushes things a gnostic pushes, it is a gnostic.

And has nothing to do with Christ Jesus.

 

The seven seal scroll is the title deed to the earth reclaimed by Christ Jesus from the devil, who took it from Adam.

 

Not some super spoopy knowledge that is going to make you like God. You will never be like God. Ever.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 7, 2019, 11:29 a.m. No.4648335   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8511

>>4648202

Bullshit. Samaria is land to the west of Israel inhabited by people who were half Jewish and half gentile; outcasts from Israel, and disallowed in Judaism. Viewed as traitors, since they were not taken into Babylonian captivity when the Jews were.

They have nothing to do with the ten tribes of Israel.

The ten tribes of Israel were never "lost".

Ba'al worship continues today as Islam among other things, so no, Elijah did not put an end to it.

Elijah lying on the ground this way and that had to do with the punishment of the Jews for disobedience, and nothing else.

 

For someone who worships knowledge, you are a complete and utter fool.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 7, 2019, 12:45 p.m. No.4649575   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4648511

>>4649201

>There is reference in Scripture to "Samaria" (the ten lost tribes that became the greater body of Christianity)

Samaria is not the ten lost tribes. That is a lie. That Ahaz was headquartered in Samaria is due to the fact that Judah holds Jerusalem, and only Judah produces kings in Israel. Ahaz and Jezebel were not righteous royalty; they were satanic rebels.

So that's a lie, and all lies do the work of the devil, aka satan. Satanic doctrine.

 

>following "Baal" (which means, "master") priests for 3 years, until Elijah (end-time men of God) put an end to it.

Ba'al means Lord, not master. Elijah lived what, 2600 years ago, appeared at the Transfiguration, and will testify to the world during the tribulation. So again, Elijah, not "end time men".

So that's a lie, and all lies do the work of the devil, aka satan. Satanic doctrine.

 

>Following 'masters' is the opposite of actually being a church (which is just the people) where ALL the people learn and teach.

Some are teachersโ€ฆ..etc. You know, from the bible.

So that's a lie, and all lies do the work of the devil, aka satan. Satanic doctrine.

 

>The real practice of this is accomplished more now in an open forum, and among real truth seekers, such as what we have here.

You calling yourself a truth seeker is a LARP of the highest order.

 

>And the 3 years of Elijah's time is symbolic of the three ages that have now just past.

No, it is not. It was a prophecy of how long Israel would remain scattered.

So that's a lie, and all lies do the work of the devil, aka satan. Satanic doctrine.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 8, 2019, 9:18 a.m. No.4662817   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2857 >>6552

>>4654534

>specially of those that believe.

How did you miss this part, again?

Believe, and be saved.

Believe not, and be damned.

 

Mark 16:16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

 

John 3:15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

 

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

 

John 3:18 โ€œHe who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

Your "universal salvation" is a lie. You, unbeliever, you will bend your knee to Christ Jesus on his throne, and you will confess that He is God.

 

Then you will be cast into eternal punishment, into the lake of fire, for your unbelief while you yet lived.

 

"Universal salvation" is a heresy from the pit of hell.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 8, 2019, 9:20 a.m. No.4662843   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>6552

>>4660971

Parables are only for the children of God; the children of the devil have nobody to explain it to them, nobody to help them understand the higher meaning. Because unbelivers do not have spiritual discernment, they deal with something like brute beasts, not understanding it, but tearing it apart.

 

Parables are coded messages for the saved, and have nothing to do with the unsaved.

 

Matthew 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 8, 2019, 9:21 a.m. No.4662857   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4662817

Picking from these verses, does it sound like "everyone is saved"?

 

>condemned

>perish

>perish

>condemned

 

No, it doesn't, does it. You think you're saved because Jesus died on the cross? Where does it say that in the bible, again?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 8, 2019, 9:24 a.m. No.4662880   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>6341

>>4660971

>This type of "fornication" is not external, but internal. Mixture of man and devil.

Pagan fornication in this sense is having other gods, and not the one true God. God presents himself as a loving and doting husband; Israel as his wife; and her straying from him as adultery and fornication.

 

Even without demons, mankind is endlessly wicked, and ready to stage a coup against Jesus after a thousand years of Eden on earth.

 

Men are more wicked than angels/fallen angels.

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 8, 2019, 2:24 p.m. No.4666789   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>6870 >>7067

>>4666341

One of my favorite pastors said it best. If you want to be rich, famous, powerful, influential, and showered with drugs, sex, the nicest things on earth, you'd do well to worship the devil, because if you worship him as god, he will give you all of those things, because they are his to give.

 

But then you'll go to hell for an eternity, so you have to figure out: is it worth it?

Anonymous ID: ccf768 Jan. 8, 2019, 3:48 p.m. No.4668157   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8689

>>4668098

Bible v (you)

(you) lose, as usual

 

Genesis

So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: โ€œBe fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.