Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 30, 2018, 10:07 a.m. No.4523022   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6849

>>4522047

Crypto is volatile because the market is immature and there is no liquidity. CryptoCURRENCY is a misnomer…at the moment at least. People still can't figure that out so they bash it. They also can seem to figure out that for a decentralized protocol to function, incentives for trustlessness need to be aligned. AKA you can't have a decentralized protocol that doesn't store value than can scale and be adopted for use as critical infrastructure. It has to have a proof-of-something. POW is the best so far, and though the energy consumption issue will get better, some people still see a problem with it. Proof-of-resource, specifically some digital resource on the network like bandwidth or memory, etc. can also be "financialized" into a cryptocurrency network. In fact, that's precisely the whole point. Memory, AKA our personal data, has been monetized through software that is slowly consuming the world. The FED inflates our value away. Silicon Valley sells our value to the highest bidder. Even worse, the Intelligence Community spies on us and entraps us in their parallel construction schemes and uses consent degrees to steal whatever is left of our labor on the plantation. It's all a long-winded way of saying that anyone doubting crypto needs to dig deeper, and if they don't get it still, there's probably some topic like math, econ, history, or something that they need to study up on. Don't be a Luddite. There's plenty of room for gold and silver as a base layer and then to replace SWIFT with something like Bitcoin. Daily small transactions on lightning. Short-term settlements on the Blockchain proper. And taking to the BRINKS trucks on occasion, when necessary. It's a redundant system. And besides, with a stellar, no pun intended, financial system, most of the value is going to be safely stored in assets like real estate, stocks, loans, PEOPLE resources, etc. This is what fixes the old shitty system. The future potential is greater though, as POR shows. The entire internet will be remade to serve humanity, flipping the people as data product business model back to the people as customer relationship. The digital economy will use crypto. Less oil-backed money and more data-backed money is where we're headed, IMO.

 

>I don't see why the Wörgl success story could not be replicated

 

Are you mad? That's not success. That's Keynesianism, the same fucking mess we're in! Fear of people's money artificially losing value is not the way to run a currency. Selling them products, businesses, loans, etc. that actually make shit better is. People won't hoard value if you give them a better reason that isn't fear-based.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 30, 2018, 10:56 a.m. No.4523703   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8395

>>4523230

Watch as the angry beneficiary of the current fiat system goes nuts

can't tell difference between real mathematical innovation supported by the world's best computer science minds and ultimately supported by the real cypherpunks

Are they all compromised or are you gold-bugging it for so many decades that you're glowing like a Luddite?

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 30, 2018, 12:03 p.m. No.4524550   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4881

>>4524338

The cabal doesn't dig. They just try to manage the supply chains. That's what gives them away.

 

That money looks good. Would be a great idea. It doesn't take away from the innovation of the distributed consensus protocols. Correlation with some supposed cabal plan is not causation. Remember, these people are stupid!

 

Regardless, the innovation is real. It can be an overall plus and win-win. Maybe it's not Bitcoin, maybe it will be. Likely, there are things being worked on to make it better or come up with a better solution that we have no idea about. Just because you don't see it or understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Own your unknown unknowns and stop projecting that shit over here.

 

I'll give a high level of uncertainty to crypto, but whole-handed dismissal? Naw. That's dumb. Expand your thinking.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 30, 2018, 5:23 p.m. No.4528703   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3812

>>4528395

Blythe, the bitch who came up with the CDS?

She tried to co-opt crypto. She couldn't. End of story.

Every payment will have fees, retard. They're cheaper in crypto because your type are straddling the middle.

"4-wheeling"? This faggot glows SO hard. Just like his new blacklight money.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 31, 2018, 7:06 a.m. No.4534764   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4912

>>4533781

>>4533812

I'll let you run with this (weak) thesis…

>>4533812

>Cash or precious metals will get you in the door. All other forms of digital fiat forgery will leave you stranded on the other side.

Sauce? You have none. All signs point to a future. JPM isn't the only player.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 31, 2018, 8:38 a.m. No.4535584   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7235 >>7624

>>4534912

English please.

And less memetic sophistry.

 

It doesn't take much to convince me that 95%+ of crypto is going to fail spectacularly in the near future. Digital Assets like Bitcoin (albeit ABC, SV, or BTC), which I don't consider or recommend as a base currency, are a much harder case to dismiss.

 

Also, the evolution of distributed consensus protocols to financialize/monetize data and network resources is a key component to solving a whole host of problems, e.g. national cybersecurity, pro-consumer data monetization, unlocking of value in idle network resources (more spare memory in all of are devices than all the data centers in the world combined), efficient and competitive global payments, etc.

 

I'm not only open to the metal thesis, I agree with it. That said, a beautiful video about a new dollar isn't legit sauce nor do you offer a supported and comprehensive takedown of crypto altogether, particularly in their potential future role as digital assets.

 

The demon took the bait and is stuck in the mirror? What does that even mean? Step back from the X-Files abstractions please. Honest anons may or may not be correct, but they definitely don't beat around the bush as much as you do.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 31, 2018, 12:38 p.m. No.4538312   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8383 >>1911

>>4537235

Again, I think the approach is going to have multiple prongs, as per one of my posts from last thread on an idea I extrapolated from Bill Still and others. People keep talking about this or that solution. Why not all of the solutions in a balanced way? That's how you keep control.

 

On the debt jubilee prong, I don't see the debt getting outright retired. I see a restructuring of certain debts, a cancelling of others, particularly where we owe criminals or where offshore funds of criminals have been confiscated, etc. Perhaps it all balances out to a cancellation or a managable reduction that will be eliminated over time by funds flowing back to the US in trade, rising GDP, etc. etc.

 

This is America, we can have the best of all the solutions: debt restructure, tax revenue growth through rising GDP, gold currency, new technologies, etc.

 

I understand the outcry for a FED audit if the indexes drop, but having the indexes drop first doesn't seem smart or controlled. Stability is important for pensions. Dropping, even to rebound after it triggers the change, can trigger selloffs and cause a lot of damage. And that is the opposite of protecting people, IMO.

 

Eliminating income tax could get interesting. Keeping it to tariffs, businesses above a certain size, etc. Lots to discuss there. I like the sin tax idea. Buffet deals exclusively in sin and fear. He's so open about it. Total bullshit, but smart. The incentives in the country towards healthy bodies and minds drive the economy into the sewer.

 

Whatever happens, the announcement of the China-US agreement is going to be the rebuttal to the next big cabal attack on stocks/money. Hell and we haven't even discussed Hemp! This alone is going to create deflation of a number of products! I want to see catalog homes again for the middle class. Hemp siding, shingles, insulation.

 

>>4537624

>It was plain English…This language has the snake by the throat.

Right…

 

The internet is the mirror of humanity? Ok, I like that, but I think it's the dark side…driven by poor incentives and "free" services. The internet has tons of potential too, if the incentives are aligned. I'm not one for throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

 

As for the rest…just cult-speak to my ears. You must be talking from a higher ethereal plane than us mere mortals down here. Congrats.

 

>>4537913

>The truth would put 90% of people in the hospital.

The tunnels/bunkers were for the event. If disclosure came, they would trigger it…from Antarctica? No one would ever know. My best guess would be to use tech to shock the magnetic field of the Earth to allow all kinds of solar radiation in for a short period, then it would recover and be safe to come out. People die off like in a Chernoble event from cancer and Climate change gets blamed. By the time people realize that a certain group isn't dying, it's too late. Plus they'll probably be able to explain it away as better health care or more expensive, yet experimental treatments, etc.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 31, 2018, 1:12 p.m. No.4538694   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4537624

>>4538383

>Crypto is our modern financial history from birth to death compressed into 10 years.

Retarded. Plus, don't confuse the proliferation of shitcoins with Bitcoin or any other potential coins that might survive the storm.

>You may still be struggling with the fact that it is dead. It's only purpose was give us blockchain and it has done that job.

Evidence? Sounds like a great plan to just toss it out the window considering some of the smartest, most dedicated, and hard-money patriots have dedicated years to building out this solution.

>What we have left in crypto is Wall St. 2.0.

Again, confusing the shitcoin proliferation with all of crypto. Broad strokes.

>Again everything on the internet is a mirror. Fractal. A copy / paste of the current mess we are in. No solutions just print foevea.

Print shitcoins maybe…but not forever. Each of the bubbles in crypto has been a phase. No one trusts the blockchain hype or the shitcoins for ungrounded shitcoins to bubble like before. It's idiots like Blythe Master's that contributed to the shitcoin/blockchain hype! The value storage and transmission case for Bitcoin is still intact. It won't go back up and will probably fall more until people finally realize that 99% of the coins really are shit, but 1% is innovation and will be back, helping to reorient the incentives in this digital avatar of our world.

>No need for some comprehensive analysis about infighting, penny stock logic, and fees. We already saw the outcome of that.

Agree, but you don't even offer simple analysis.

>The good thing is that outcome was captured in a net (www) and was taken out to sea. I suppose some giant hungry lizard will devour it.

Metaphor Sophistry.

>Time to talk about the future now. What is in it? I can tell you what is not in it and that is the power grid is not going to be in this format for much longer. Why? The answer lies right in front of our faces. But we are too sleepy to see it.

Solar? That would solve the criticism around the mining issue.

 

>Rooster is here to wake you up. 2017 Trump is inaugurated.

Great, communist Chinese divination for technical AND fundamental analysis. Best of luck. Where's our Bitcoin SV Dragon guy?

>Coincidentally at the same time an entity that produces 1/3 of the power on the planet starts going belly up. An entity that JP Morgan itself financed.

GE?

>So you ask yourself why would JP Morgan be staking so much silver? The answer is obvious.

To hedge a bad investment? I thought you said it was to back this new Blythe Master's silver blockchain? And if all this is the case, why do they get forgiven again?

>The new notes are coming. It is not an art project. The digital fiat forgery machine is getting shut down.

Total art project. The owner of that account is the artist. Those wouldn't even be the real notes if is is real because of a number of things written/printed on them.

>Maybe if you looked at the population curve in the last hundred years and pair it together with Alternating Current you might see the big picture.

You'll have to spell this one out more. You talking Nikola? What ARE you talking about?

>The SUN OF GOD will literally SAVE you from yourself. If you can get past the religious tone of that statement you might just make it.

Sun money? Nude beaches? Electronic Cash? Too esoteric for this thread…

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 31, 2018, 3:19 p.m. No.4540194   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0302

>>4539625

>All in all I just don't understand the need for a bogey man that is so evil that regardless I continue to use his services.

Choice?

 

Crypto is only 1 small part of the solution.

New notes is only 1 part as well.

Myopia is for tunnels and tunnels are for cabalists.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 31, 2018, 3:23 p.m. No.4540250   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://cryptoslate.com/btc-lightning-network-company-rejects-million-roger-ver-bitcoin-cash/

 

A, B, C

It's easy as…

1, 2, 3

Or simple as…

Do-Re-Mi

A, B, C, 1, 2, 3, BTFO!

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Dec. 31, 2018, 3:43 p.m. No.4540509   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8281

>>4540302

All of the best minds in blockchain, amd there are very few, are working on BTC. They clearly think Masters attempted a failed coup. Not sure how you square that circle justify that some silver-backed FED stablecoin is going to run the tables on the decentralized competition when no one except (you) seems to think that they have secret developers. Hopefully it will help clear out the shitcoins and Tether at least, but Bitcoin…nah.

Heels are dug in, though it seems like you're pretty unwilling to accept different potential scenarios. I don't know if you have some inside knowledge, are a divination magician, or are simply a stubborn condescending jerk. In any case, when the facts change, I'll change my mind. Until this, there doesn't seem to be much more to say.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 1, 2019, 8:25 a.m. No.4551362   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4551028

Decent list, could switch out a few though.

Shrem is a has-BEN.

Vitalik first and Antonopoulos last? Someone's giving away their bias too easily.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 1, 2019, 10:46 a.m. No.4552879   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4252

>>4551706

Yeah, I made that connection. Very Qurious.

 

>>4551778

 

>>4552034

That LSU board looks updated or manipulated somehow. I'm not going to trust that they posted that much info on 10/30. Moreover, a lot of the lingo that was used in that first post emerged organically on 4ch and 8ch weeks and months later. Unless they seeded it, then that dog don't hunt.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 1, 2019, 12:02 p.m. No.4553831   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://www.tonyrobbins.com/wealth-lifestyle/need-know-bitcoin/

Wealth & Lifestyle

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT BITCOIN

Posted by: Team Tony

Trying to explain bitcoin is like trying to explain the Internet to someone in the 80s, as Vox so aptly put it; or even the 90s if you remember the video of the then-younger Today show hosts trying to comprehend the Internet. The reason it’s so difficult to explain (and understand) is because like the Internet before it, bitcoin is a brand new concept.

WHAT IS BITCOIN?

At its most basic component, bitcoin is a crypto-currency. Meaning, it is a digital system of (non-physical) ‘tokens’ which have an ascribed value and are used for trading goods or services, much like cash or credit.

 

Like other currencies and commodities, the value of bitcoin fluctuates wildly based on supply and demand and its perceived value. At the time of this writing, the value of a bitcoin is $9979.00 US. However, these coins can be broken down into smaller units, the smallest being one hundred millionth of a bitcoin – called a Satoshi, after the anonymous founder of bitcoin.

The digital system of bitcoin was founded upon mathematical proof. The mathematical rules of bitcoin stipulate that there can only ever be 21 million bitcoins. So unlike other currencies, no more can be printed. Despite the finite number, not all 21 million have been ‘mined’ yet, so more are being discovered every day.

 

Image©TTstudio/shutterstock

 

HOW DOES IT WORK? AND WHAT IS ‘BITCOIN MINING?’

Instead of using middleman – say, a bank – to hold the records of all transactions, the records (known as a ledger) are held publically by a network of computers across the world. Every time a transaction occurs the ledger is updated across the network.

 

The network is composed of computers that solve open source mathematical cryptographic problems in order to add ‘blocks’ to the network, known as the blockchain. It’s a little like solving a riddle in a computer game that then reveals a part of the game that was previously inaccessible. In return for solving those problems, the computer’s owner receives bitcoins. The mathematical algorithm adjusts in level of difficulty so that bitcoins are not released into the world too quickly. This process is known as mining.

 

Anyone with a computer that is sophisticated enough to solve the algorithm can become a miner. The exact number of miners changes all the time, but it has grown from a handful of early-stage enthusiasts into an industrial-level venture for power players backed by specialized machinery.

 

Because the digital system runs on a peer-to-peer basis, everyone in the network holds their own copy of the ledger. It gets rather complicated from here, but essentially that network timestamps the transactions and creates a unique math problem for every transaction that occurs. Then every computer in the network must solve the problem and check the answer for accuracy. For a more technical video explanation, see here.

 

With that said, you don’t have to be a miner to use bitcoin. You can use bitcoin through a sort of online wallet, or account.

 

WHAT SEPARATES BITCOIN FROM CURRENCIES THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE IT?

Bitcoin is decentralized. No single bank, government, company or individual owns the network or has control over it. This means that your accounts can never be frozen, a government cannot devalue the currency, it can be used in every country, and, more ominously, because of the anonymous nature of bitcoin, the technically savvy can avoid taxation and use bitcoin as payment for any kind of illegal good or service.

 

(Note: In the U.S. bitcoin is currently taxed as a capital asset. Miners who produce bitcoin must declare the fair market value of their digital currency on the day it was mined as income, as do contractors who are paid in bitcoin.)

 

Image©Kevin George/shutterstock

 

WHY HAS IT BEEN IN THE NEWS SO MUCH?

Bitcoin has the potential capability of changing how the world handles finances, but there are still problems with it.

 

Many people only know of bitcoin’s reputation by its association as a favorite payment method of criminals and the widely publicized New Silk Road, due to its anonymity. But as the former head of the New Silk Road discovered, discovery and prosecution are still possible.

 

There have also been reports, some very recent, that claim bitcoin has failed or will fail. The network has thus far weathered all storms, but some of its investors have not been so fortunate. When the largest bitcoin exchange of the time – Mt. Gox – suddenly shut down in February of 2014, investors collectively lost $460 million worth of bitcoin.

 

If bitcoin adoption continues to grow, the financial structure as we know it will be altered — but no one really knows how.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 1, 2019, 3:06 p.m. No.4556227   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://www.sarsonfunds.com/blockchain-insider-report-blog/hedge-fund-buy-before-bitcoin-s-big-day-on-jan-2nd

 

Shady propaganda, maybe trying to offload a shitcoin portfolio…but any news from the SEC?

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 1, 2019, 3:19 p.m. No.4556356   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8281

>>4555258

Know how it's fake?

They landed Neil Armstrong on the $20.

GAY!

 

#80526B is code for a specific shade of purpley/red/granet called Cosmic.

https://www.htmlcsscolor.com/hex/80526B

It's interesting because it's a mix of 1 part red, 1 white, 1 blue, 1 black. The occult must get off on the number coincidences.

Here's the question. Was it called Cosmic before they found out that the 4 parts were equal or did they call it Cosmic to fit with their esoteric agenda?

BTFO.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 3, 2019, 11:26 a.m. No.4581474   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9045 >>8065

>>4573899

Baby gold, two 9s-fine response.

 

>>4580700

Q also said that disinformation was necessary. That said, "Gold" could mean a number of things. The actual element in reference to the FED jumps out at everyone as obvious…BUT what if there are multiple meanings. What if we are talking about digital gold or Goldman Sachs or some (((guy))) names Goldberg or Goldstein. The crumb means literally nothing until future proves past. The only thing we can do is speculate or, better yet, dig, meme, and pray. Anyone claiming to know what Q meant is full of shekels.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 3, 2019, 4:49 p.m. No.4586218   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Ronnie Moas

Regular on CNBC

Got totally fucked on some crypto scam. Just sounds like he got scammed, but he's creating a lot of dust with his ranting and is pretty pissed that it's hitting his reputation…nevermind the thousands of other people that have bought shitcoins or some other scam with no way to track the losses or go after the bad guys. Makes a good case for being the victim, but also digs into the JQ some mentioning Mossad and outing himself as a Jew and saying he's getting attacked for these things…

https://twitter.com/RonnieMoas/status/1080824404886593537

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 3, 2019, 9:32 p.m. No.4590024   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0052

>>4589045

>we are living through a chapter out of the Bible

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhalb0

1:25:25

https://wakinglifemovie.net/transcript/chapter/18/

BLOW YOUR MIND.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 5, 2019, 9:57 a.m. No.4610102   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0280 >>0316

>>4609573

We've heard it.

You offer ZERO rational.

Right or not, you shilling harder than a reinforced steel shekel.

 

Shut the fuck up already.

 

>>4609798

Their marginal cost of getting it out of the ground would limit their profits anyway.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 5, 2019, 10:50 a.m. No.4611142   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1537

>>4610316

So fucking retarded that you can't even figure out why people think you're a shill.

 

You're a shill that says shit and doesn't back it up. It's really that simple. People ask you for clarification and you offer nothing except some shilly esoteric bullshit.

 

Try harder yourself…or better yet, as I said before, SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY.

 

On my end, you'll now be blocked. I'll let others deal with you now.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 5, 2019, 2:51 p.m. No.4615007   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr21/text

 

H.R. 21: Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019

 

Sec. 128.Amounts in the Bureau of Engraving and Printing Fund may be used for the acquisition of necessary land for, and construction of, a replacement currency production facility.

 

 

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr56

 

H.R. 56: To establish an Independent Financial Technology Task Force to Combat Terrorism and Illicit Financing, to provide rewards for information leading to convictions related to terrorist use of digital currencies, to establish a Fintech Leadership in Innovation and Financial Intelligence Program to …

… encourage the development of tools and programs to combat terrorist and illicit use of digital currencies, and for other purposes.

 

Text:

Not available yet.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 5, 2019, 2:54 p.m. No.4615047   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/01/05/legendary-investor-gary-shilling-wont-invest-in-bitcoin-cites-satoshi-nakamotos-anonymity-as-an-issue/

 

Shilling won't invest…sounds about right.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 8, 2019, 10:26 a.m. No.4663662   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4597

>>4658624

Not talking about residence, cash, alts whatever etc. Just a basic portfolio, no prepping, that most people can probably use.

MAGA scenario, not WWZ:

15k - 75% Gold, 25% Silver

15k - BTC

70k - low-cost total US stock fund

 

The metals are a rebase bet AND an emergency hedge. On the rebase bet, I'd look to reallocate the gains into bonds after most of the asset repricings. BTC is a longer play with higher reward/risk ratio, but same goal. Long-term goal toward basic 3-fund portfolio 40/20/40 (domestic stocks + international stocks + domestic bonds) with a few smaller satellites/beta bets + home, insurance, family, etc.

Oh, and a TRUCK!

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 8, 2019, 12:23 p.m. No.4665163   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7223

>>4664597

>I plan to just break those 1oz down

People used to run tabs with trustworthy locals.

See Back to the Future, but somewhat of an unlikely scenario considering crypto.

 

Metals as a replacement for stocks is absurd. You're working with the WWZ assumption. In that scenario, I'd be more into bunkers, food, and ammo than trade. It's certainly a legit scenario, but I'm working with the MAGA scenario and the assumptions that Q has suggested.

 

Trump also mentioned DOW 100,000-125,000. That may take a while and may be due to the dollar losing value, but I still think stocks win out over gold in a diversified risk portfolio. Going total anything is a bad idea. Plus, returning the siphoned funds to the pension/social security system does seem to be part of the plan.

 

Gold/metals will either hold value, have a one-time revaluation and perhaps then float after the world adjusts, or simply be replaced by something else. Those are marginal big event scenarios. That's not investing though.

 

The best nor the worst ever happens, so I don't put eggs in those baskets. Diversified investing in assets as well as into cultures, languages, relationships/family, etc. is not only what I think survives but what I think is valuable. In that scenario, even if I don't survive, not everything was in vein. Some things of value will continue on and perhaps even accompany me.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 9, 2019, 6:24 a.m. No.4679500   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2876 >>5381

>>4677724

AOE

Saucy?

 

Do we have any evidence that BTC developers and/or cypherpunks are composed of any masons?

 

>>4677888

>POS can fuck off.

Digits confirm.

 

>>4678081

I think delivery is optional.

Regardless, it seems that a few regimes are bubbling up for custodial solutions. Fidelity (pyramid icon) is also another one with its Digital Assets initiative.

 

If they can somehow keep decentralized records, then even if something happens to the system, it can be re-spawned/reconstructed, similar to the DAO hiccup. Not good with currency perhaps, but arguably smart with assets. Though I lean to irreversible transactions, I understand the need in special scenarios. In any case, the DTCC, Cede & Co., and all the naked shortsellers can fuck right off.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 9, 2019, 7:41 a.m. No.4680220   🗄️.is 🔗kun

http://www.kemet.org/taxonomy/term/72

http://www.geocities.ws/isissanctuary/temple35.html

Aset

Aüset

ASSET=MONEY=MAMMON

Water-pouring goddesses.

 

Plants need water.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 10, 2019, 7:09 a.m. No.4694184   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0021869372900580

 

Proof of Tits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tits_alternative#Proof

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 10, 2019, 8:15 p.m. No.4704785   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4703370

That's why we're waiting for RBG to die to step down. Whitaker-maker drops the hammer, makes way for new AG and we push through new judge quickly. Meanwhile, new caravan is moving north(Qasim stands against POTUS), and unpaid workers start getting upset. The cartels will be forced to fight and we'll kill them all, all the way down through South America with the help of other leaders. It's a coordinated attack worldwide. See Russia and China showing off new weapons? That's not for us. We're all on the same side and being led by POTUS.

 

>>4703463

Block 'em already. Diversify into a bit of gold and silver if you want, but move on from the shills. My thread experience has been great for the last few days.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 11, 2019, 9:47 a.m. No.4712287   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3271 >>7847

>>4712036

>https://coinspice.io/news/blockstream-board-member-apologizes-for-russian-bot-campaign-in-alabama/

 

Correlation is NOT causation.

 

Could be, but it could also be a subtle divide and conquer by the white hats.

 

I don't believe BTC to be a blackhat project. Grey hat maybe, but open and transparent. There's no doubt that tons of attempts have been made to co-opt it…but time and time again, there seems to be hidden protectors who emerge and push the black hats into the light.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 11, 2019, 3:20 p.m. No.4716531   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7285

>>4713271

>Supposedly 8ch is safe but in another world we could be shut off from Q drops because faggot silicon valley hadn't tried to shut it down yet.

 

Certainly a possibility. I've heard a lot of that info before. Investment isn't necessarily compromise though. It's an open system, so it can always be audited constantly and in real-time. People don't have to accept new code, etc. Some of the info might be true, but I don't think they were there at the beginning. Cutting off cabal funds and with wild volatility, I'm not even sure they can hodl! The can own massive parts of the ecosystem, but if they fuck with the code, they shoot themselves in the food. Decentralization is a beast that they won't be able to tame, albeit giving it the old college try.

 

https://blockexplorer.com/news/crypto-layoffs-shapeshift-consensys-bitmain/

Massive layoffs.

 

Roger is a shill. No question. And a huge pussy. I liked some of his libertarian stuff, but he's a traitor. If anyone is a clown, it's him. CW is more of an enigma to me, but he's still such a bitch sometimes.

 

Compromised or not, the core guys are the real deal. POTUS is cutting strings far and wide…surely he can easily cut any strings in core.

 

What's the problem with lightning? I find it pretty spectacular. All software is layered. The settlement layer doesn't need to handle small everyday transactions as long at the cryptographic trustlessness and unconfiscatability can be threaded into the higher layers.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 12, 2019, 6:53 a.m. No.4724458   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4501 >>9609

Ripple is a total scam.

IOTA can't scale.

Where are all these crypto newfags coming from??? You guys are going to get fleeced. Maybe it's a necessary lesson for you, but no need to bring that shit here.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 12, 2019, 11:03 a.m. No.4727218   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9609 >>8249

>>4724501

>You should step back from popaganda and feelings and look at it from an objective point of view.

You have no idea who you're talking to…

There are two options: Bitcoin, most likely BTC, for store of value, and MAID for decentralized internet. There's a handful of other projects that have some interesting things that could compete or at least be adopted into Bitcoin if it's ever challenges for such and such need, but most likely functionality will be an upper layer solution. As for the SAFE Network, absolutely nothing in the blockchain world comes close to competing with it. Do your own homework, faggot. IOTA, Tron, etc. are all using interesting tech. They raised too much money. Their not building anything that can work. I've looked into it…as an insider in the field. The only project besides BTC that actually has any real product is Factom, which I still think is totally unnecessary and will fail. It's in the 60s for market-cap ranking. Stop judging these projects based by their market cap ranking and do your homework. The ranking, if anything, for the moment, only shows how much money most of these people behind the projects stole from the unaccredited investors. They're fucked, almost all of them, the projects, the people, and the investors. Law & Order and these fucks screwed a bunch of people.

I'm blocking this fool with the XRP shill just like with the new money "we ride" shill.

Look up Tone Vays' crypto scam series.

>>4725370

Stupid fucking idiot. China cracked down. Most exchanges left China, even hong kong. Went to singapore, manila, US, other places. They cracked down on a lot of the mining as well. Since late 2016, China hasn't been a player in crypto except for exporting their shitcoins.

 

Fuck with Bitcoin with any of these shitcoins and you'll have the entire crypto 5th estate advising John Q Public on the shitcoinability of whatever centrally adopted projects some dumb fucks want to cherry pick. Only the market will decide.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 13, 2019, 1:55 p.m. No.4742128   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://bitcoinist.com/1000-bitcoin-puzzle-hidden-in-paris-street-mural-now-solved/

 

https://twitter.com/pascalboyart/status/1082082762180513793

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 13, 2019, 2:32 p.m. No.4742645   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8284

>>4738249

LTC is a waste of time. Great testnet but shouldn't have value. Short-term VOL play on a rebound, maybe…

Silver was used because Gold couldn't be divided small enough. Bitcoin is digital and can be split to 8 decimals…and more if needed through a code update. The analogy is sHillary.

My guess is that Charlie Lee will get caught up in the dragnet, although his crimes were relatively honest and naive, but "silver for Bitcoin's gold"??? Marketing Bullshit.

 

Start buying BTC @ sub 3000. Bottom could be until ~1300 on a fast drop from ~2000. Strong above ~6000, we'e not coming back, dip or not.

 

MAID used to be top 10 for a few years before the cambrian shitcoin explosion. Rose to about 120 before halving to 55-70 after they released their PARSEC proof, the magical algo that makes it all work. It's all being built and rigorously tested, but the hard work is behind. It is just the tedious work now of bringing product to market. I don't know where the price will go. I was over $1 last year and now only 11 cents. I supposed it could bounce at the chart lows at 2-3 cents, but that seems ridiculous. While I imagine that it could dips with the alts, unless the market discovers it beforehand, it seems like the highest reward/risk ratio of any speculative asset on the planet at the moment. SPECULATION is the key word, but still…a few of the coins are massively undervalued!

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 13, 2019, 7:14 p.m. No.4746149   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Greg Hunter is painful and CAF is either naive about Q or trying not to admit it, she's dishing out great information.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 13, 2019, 8:31 p.m. No.4747277   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0839

>>4747064

Just scanning through…

 

Scenario #4(High-cost centralized storage & high demand for consumer privacy/security)

Digital Apocalypse : Russian President Vladimir Putin said, “whoever leads in AI will

rule the world.” Unbeknownst to the common man, the transition into the information age has

exposed the rich and powerful, who have remained comfortable in the background for

decades, if not centuries, to disruptive forces threatening their hold on their power, status, and

wealth in the world. Promoting utopian ideas such as the singularity and other

pseudo-religious notions, among other fervorous incentives, they invested heavily in the

development of artificial intelligence. Corporate blackmail and market manipulation became

popular attack vectors in the hybrid wars. In secret, either an advanced quantum computer

was developed to hack the most sensitive financial, military, and social media databases or

during the large-scale hybrid war, a malicious AI as able to coordinate massive leaks of

sensitive data on yuge numbers of individuals. Crimes ranging from pedofile rings and arms

trafficking to adultery and cyber-bullying were publicly exposed in a digital judgement day

which displayed the imperfections of humanity in even the most petty of ways. Supposedly

encrypted personal messages were published, and private transaction data were shared with

the world. Massive social upheaval resulted as populations lost trust in their spouses, family,

neighbors, and governments. Needless to say, once the dust settled and sins were forgiven, the

only meaningful way forward for society was to accept a decentralized information network

to secure the three-sided object of privacy, property, and wealth. A unique sign of the Digital

Apocalypse would be massively disruptive black swan events related to data privacy and

security like state-sponsored cyberwar. The chaos may be acute or it might be akin to boiling

frogs, but an inflection point will certainly come in which large segments of civil society,

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business, the military, and especially individuals will transition to this new model. The

transition will likely be hectic, but it will also likely be driven by marginalized individuals at

the grassroots level. As Mahatma Gandhi famously said, “First they ignore you, then they

laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 14, 2019, 7:54 a.m. No.4750983   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4750839

Distributed networks are better and more resilient. SAFE's integration of TBL's SOLID adds the idea of socially-linked data. It's like social biomimicry for our data. It can help minimize/eliminate the risk of single points of failure like forgetting your keys, etc. The best of both worlds.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 14, 2019, 11:24 a.m. No.4753072   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Media/254347-2019-01-11-01-11-19-paul-rosenberg-darknet-michael-belfiore-space-race.htm

 

01-11-19 – Paul Rosenberg = Darknet - Michael Belfiore = Space Race - Dug Campbell MaidSafe (MP3s)

 

Paul Rosenberg (Freeman's Perspective) 'Welcome to the Darknet' - Michael Belfiore (Author, Writer) updates on the private space race - Dug Campbell (Head of Marketing and Outreach at MaidSafe) provides an update on the decentralized internet project

 

Hour 1 - Paul Rosenberg (Freeman's Perspective) on the subscriber-based Parellel Society January Newsletter Issue: 'Welcome to the Darknet',

 

Hour 2 - Michael Belfiore (Author, Writer) updates on the private space race including predictions for 2019, China on the dark side of the moon, SpaceX/Dragon Crew/Falcon 9 update, etc…

 

Hour 3 - Dug Campbell (Head of Marketing and Outreach at MaidSafe) provides an update on the decentralized internet project

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 18, 2019, 8:34 a.m. No.4805824   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6272 >>0064

>>4804552

There won't be a recovery until there is a notable disconnect in price between the very few legit projects and the shitcoins. Projects will have to start failing/running out of money en masse.

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 19, 2019, 8 a.m. No.4820135   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0140

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https://twitter.com/jchervinsky/status/1086266216568799233‏

@jchervinsky

0/ The VanEck/SolidX bitcoin ETF won't be automatically approved just because the US government is shut down.

I've seen a lot of confusion & misinformation about how the shutdown affects the SEC and its process for handling ETF proposals. I'll try to explain here.

Thread. 👇

1/ As you probably know, the SEC's final deadline to approve or deny the ETF is February 27. That's 240 days after the ETF proposal was first published in the Federal Register.

2/ That 240-day deadline is imposed by federal statute—15 U.S.C. §§ 78s(b)(2)(A) & (B), to be exact(https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/78s …).

Because the deadline is statutory, the shutdown doesn't affect it at all. The law continues to apply whether the government is funded or not.

3/ Also, the SEC doesn't have the power to extend the 240-day deadline. The statute absolutely prohibits any further delays.

By law, that means if the SEC fails to make a decision by the February 27 deadline, the ETF will be automatically approved.

4/ From these facts, the following narrative has emerged:

  • the SEC might be shut down longer than the February 27 deadline

  • which means the SEC might not decide by the deadline

  • in which case the ETF will be approved!

Sorry, but that's extremely unlikely.

5/ It's true that the SEC has stopped nearly all of its work due to the shutdown & furloughed most of its employees (they have to stay home).That includes the majority of staff members in the Division of Trading & Markets, which handles proposed rule changes (including ETFs).

6/ But the SEC still has a small number of staff members available to handle "excepted" functions, which mostly refers to urgent law enforcement matters, but also includes "activities necessary for a short period in order to ensure an orderly shutdown of operations."

7/ What activities are necessary to ensure an orderly shutdown?

The SEC gets to make that designation for itself, and I'm willing to bet it thinks preventing controversial financial products like bitcoin ETFs from being auto-approved due to blown deadlines is "necessary."

8/ In fact, the SEC has already taken action during the shutdown to avoid missing deadlines on other proposed rule changes.

For example, on January 9, the SEC issued an order extending its January 10 deadline on a rule change proposed by Nasdaq PHLX (https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/phlx/2019/34-84981.pdf …).

 

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Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 19, 2019, 8:01 a.m. No.4820140   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4820135

9/ So we know the SEC has a skeleton crew handling proposed rule changes during the shutdown.

If the shutdown continues until February 27, that same crew should be around to issue an order approving or denying the ETF. The better question is whether anyone's around to write it.

10/ The staff shortage means the order might have less detail than usual. Maybe it's one page saying "[approved/denied] for reasons to be explained later." Or maybe it was written weeks ago & is totally standard.Regardless, there's no reason to think it can't get done in time.

11/ If I'm wrong (it's possible), then one of two things has happened:

#1: the SEC decided to approve the ETF anyway & preferred to allow auto-approval than to issue an order of approval during a shutdown.

#2: the SEC couldn't keep its skeleton crew on board to issue a denial.

12/ If #1 happens, fine, but the ETF was getting approved anyway.

If #2 happens, it isn't likely to stay in effect for long. Automatic approval isn't a lifetime guarantee & can be undone easily. When the shutdown ends, the SEC can just force the ETF to be delisted.

13/ One last bit of bad news for the ETF bulls: if the shutdown continues to February 27, I think the ETF's chance of approval is near zero.

I base that on the SEC's operations plan, which describes the functions that continue or stop during a shutdown (https://www.sec.gov/files/sec-plan-of-operations-during-lapse-in-appropriations-2018.pdf …).

14/ On page 18, the operations plan talks about proposed rule changes. It says the SEC will discontinue "review and approval of applications for registration . . . with respect to new financial products."

In other words, the SEC won't review or approve ETF proposals.

15/ If the SEC won't approve new ETFs, then obviously it must deny them all. And why not? It should be very comfortable with a position like:"The shutdown prevented us from completing our review, so we can't be sure that the requisite standards for approval have been met."

16/ Don't get me wrong: the ETF could still be approved, especially if the SEC made its decision before the shutdown started.

All I'm saying is that the shutdown doesn't improve the ETF's chances of approval at all. In fact, the opposite is probably true.

17/ And if you're about to ask how this all applies to Bakkt, it doesn't.

Unlike the SEC, the CFTC has no statutory deadline for making a decision on Bakkt, so it can delay as long as it wants. Don't expect anything on Bakkt until after the shutdown (maybe months after).

[end]

 

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Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 19, 2019, 9:24 a.m. No.4821142   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4820874

USAA was series A/B investor in Coinbase. I think Coinbase sucks, but I had a conversation with USAA's head in the back office on BTC and ACH transfers a few years back (2013, I think). Interesting stuff. The military keep a low profile on their plans…

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 20, 2019, 8:46 a.m. No.4834789   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6006 >>2371

>>4833600

Palladium has gone on a tear. Could go higher, seems like it could use a good pullback though…unless there is some new industrial case. That said, that's an investment play, not a monetary policy/currency/EOW play like gold (and silver to some degree).

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 21, 2019, 8:41 a.m. No.4847194   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Behind MimbleWimble

 

The head scratching tech that has the crypto industry abuzz

 

Go to the profile of Jordan Clifford

 

Jordan Clifford

 

Nov 28, 2018

 

“Mimblewimble, which prevents your opponent from accurately casting their next spell.”

 

— Gilderoy Lockhart [src]

 

Few ideas within crypto have garnered as much attention as the MimbleWimble proposal. It gets its name from the incantation of the Tongue Tying Curse in the Harry Potter universe, a spell used to prevent speaking on a certain topic. MimbleWimble is a novel protocol that works to improve privacy and scalability for its users.

 

It was first proposed to the #bitcoin-wizards IRC channel on August 1st, 2016 by pseudonymous author Tom Elvis Jedusor (Voldemort’s real name in the French Harry Potter). The original proposal is a succinct one. MimbleWimble takes the main architecture of Bitcoin, removes script, adds Confidential Transactions and the idea of cut-through and the result is a highly compressible and opaque blockchain.

 

continued:

 

https://medium.com/@jcliff/behind-mimblewimble-cd9da78a00e9

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 21, 2019, 8:52 a.m. No.4847331   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2664

>>4846839

It's not particularly smart to have 3 commodities balanced at fixed rates with respect to each other. silver platinum, and gold all have industrial uses that could fluctuate their prices with respect to each other. A rigid face value would cause inefficiencies in the market…and in fact has done exactly that with gold and silver in the past. At least with crypto, all items can be continuously priced and repriced according to a single industrially useless commodity. The base value of crypto is literally the human trust in mathematical truths and the proof-of-work(mining/digging) energy put into the system. It's a seemingly wasteful use of real energy to prove and protect a very deep truth about the universe, one upon which an unbreakable timeline of events can be established, blocks of information. That itself is the value of the Blockchain. That is what gives money it's value. In the industrial age, you want a petrodollar. Now, we get the datadollar or blocktime credits or whatever you want to call them. It's evolution. Just because people can't get their head around it, doesn't mean that future generations won't look back at it as totally obvious. "Duh, math-based money! Stupid ancients Americans!"

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 22, 2019, 2:51 p.m. No.4865328   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5358

>>4862371

provident and kitco offer better deals…one for silver and the other for gold…i forget which.

look at the % different between sell and repurchase. sometimes paying more in the beginning means loosing less in the end…

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 22, 2019, 2:54 p.m. No.4865358   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4865328

I haven't compared repurchase prices, but my hunch is that with quality and high demand metals, a local coin dealer or a coin show probably offers at least a competitive price for small quantities…

Anonymous ID: 6d7f19 Jan. 22, 2019, 2:56 p.m. No.4865379   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5804

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-22/dread-pirate-mcafee-presidential-candidate-wage-campaign-exile-while-dodging-tax

 

There's a Grand Jury for John McAfee.