Count me in too
Gonna read the whole thing and see what you guys came up with
I've got some ideas of my own
Did you see this?
Some anon is proposing the clock starts on sundays.
Question is when do we need to wind it?
Anon, can you add a filter by day [SMTWTFS]?
if >>4872825 is correct the clock starts on sundays (12)
With each marker we need to wind the clock (back to 12)
I think this could mean each marker begins @ 12, so each has it's own timeline
I'm not sure how to position each crumb on the timeline yet
I did a quick drawing to hopefully give an idea of what I mean
Dropdown should work especially if it can be in AND with other filters.
If this leads somewhere we might need a checkbox group to enable/disable days but probably overkill for now.
While you're at it, please consider pic related.
Afaik no tool does this currently.
Let's say I search a post # (but should work when filtering by other means imo, pic 2 related), some simple way to see the context of the post chronologically.
I have a couple of graphics for these but can't access them right now.
For #417, find post that contains "CAP_H(9)" and subsequent post with "22_WH_POTUS_PRESS"
First is :02
Second is :20
Equals 22(=2+20) (learn?)
DIVERT_ATT = 9 chars
Just for keks:
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CAP_H could be CAPITOL HILL (mulitple meanings)
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For some time I wondered if CAP_H(9) could mean H=9 (matches D=5) but lead me nowhere so far.
For #502, refers to good[win]/[when]
15 delta was between 2 POTUS tweets (consensual typo)
Same for the delta 1 (consensual -consequential)
These were both Q lessons to teach us.
I agree with everyone who says delta are calculated by minutes only
Also hours don't matter as an absolute value (just need to be same timezone for a correct timeline)
Time references rarely are current in the crumbs in my opinion. Only cases are disinfo or lesson/directions.
yesterday/today/tomorrow/next week/etc are relative to the date that proves that crumb, that's why it unlocks the map
That's also why datefagging lead to so much concernfagging and shill-fest
Not sure how to threat this but maybe we should mark them as 2d[:24] (or w/m/y for weeks/months/years)
So far I think we have 4 types of deltas:
1) Q<->POTUS (last Q crumb and first next tweet, basic [5][10]etc)
2) Q<->POTUS (a Q crumb and the tweet that logically connects, ex: [RR-out])
3) POTUS<->POTUS (delta between 2 consecutive tweets, I'd say probably within the same out, ex: consensual/consequential)
4) Q<->Q (long term delta to Q, es [1y delta])
Also, do we have any theory on timestamp as checksum of the crumb?
There was an anon that look at this but I never bought it because he used seconds.
Q#1430 mentions:
>Clarification.
>We exposed the password [#91] on purpose [23].
>Subsequent posts [on here] were then made by Anons.
>Timestamps verify.
What's said here is that even without the trip we can discern which are Q posts and which are not based on the timestamp alone.
So far I've no theory as how to do it.
Two possibilities:
1) Crumb and timestamp verify as standalone
2) Crumb and timestamp verify relative to other crumbs
3) timestamp verify by delta only
For (1) I would try to find all Q crumb that are exactly the same (pic related) and try to find a relationship between the text and the timestamp.
In this case seconds should not matter, imo.
For (2) seconds could matter but only in past crumbs because at that point its a known reliable datapoint to build on.
For (3) I guess we'll find out anyway we the other deltafagging.
Do we have a running list of theory for specific things?
I know this isn't strictly delta related and don't want to slide but, for examlpe, the character - in stringer I think means to shift the words in the phrase we'll be looking for (A-B = B A).
Examples:
[RR-out] = out the old Ronald Reagan
Divert-ATT_CAP_H = AT&T Diverted Capital Home
>probably within the same out
HOUR
>Two possibilities:
Never write the number of bullet points, right? :)
Not that I'm aware of.
If you need ideas this is a bit of a slide but I think we need a tool to store and navigate the research done on the crumbs.
I'm not sure how other anons are currently keeping track of everything.
Searching and stuff is all good but we need to store it somewhere. This was supposed to be the MAP but we're not there yet, it seems.
Main points would be:
nosql graph as database (eg: orientDB)
Should contain at least crumb and tweets.
Support for custom text would enable NEWS, definitions, proofs or other things.
Everything should be linkable to crumbs or specifically single lines of them.
Links between all exactly repeated lines should be built-in. Maybe suggest also very similar ones (hunt for red october/red october) but probably overkill and anon would do them faster.
Tags are a must to categorize most objects. Think legend.
Like 'answers' on qanon.pub comments can be added to single lines or groups and overall crumb/tweet/info
Navigation should help see connections made and review them.
Then will come more complex stuff but that's a good base.
If people are interested in something like this some operational points should be discussed. We can meet in the codefag thread or some temp chatroom.
think RADAR? :)
Do to workfagging I've looked at graphs and graphs layouts for most of the past year.
My take is QMAP needs a specific layout.
Anyway in the end it all comes down to:
>when is a map useful?
It's unclear the detail level were working with, pics related
I think these are on target .
The only sequence diagram I know of is UML, pic related.
This would match the idea that a crumb line is a connection/link. This would bring to another crumb (as a function/method call for codefags).
Remember Q says
> the map is in front of you
Look what is in front of you
Now have multiple columns of that
It resembles the original graphics Q confirmed. Problem is there was no connection drawn on them.
> It's all about the BREAK
When do you change column?
The sequence could be telling us just that
Possibye there are multiple sequences involved
Thoughts?
same here
Proposal for the qanon.news anon
Often anons point out draw.io to lay out the crumbs and make connections as graphic.
Problem is, it's a mess to add the crumbs into it manually.
The tool supports custom libraries of "shapes" which can be just images.
(looked into putting HTML into them but doesn't seem trivial)
A library is just a funny xml that actually contains json data, pic related.
Now, ASSUMING putting all crumbs into a single library would make it unsuable…it would be useful to be able to select some desired crumbs and generate a custom library on demand.
Example: I need crumbs containing "keystone" to make some q proof.
Filter them as usual by keyword
Select the ones I need
Export to library -save xml locally
Go to draw.io and import said xml
Draw proof
???
Profit
The "xml" seems very basic.
Just a JSON array containing JSON object with image urls or base64 encoded images, some metadata about title and dimensions. All wrapped in a simple <mxlibrarytag.
<mxlibrary>[ { "data": //url or base64 , "w": //width , "h": //height , "title": "Q#1" , "aspect": "fixed" } , {...}]</mxlibrary>
I'm not sure if you would be able to host the images and use URLs or would be more appropriate to embed the base64 strings.
>you'd then metaphorically "wind the clock back to 0" to look for another delta
There are 5 posts that mention 'GJ'. why did you choose the last one?
Ask if you need info. I've looked enough at the underying JS library (mxgraph).
I was looking at it again to envision a dedicated custom frontend for a "Q canvas" where all post would be laid out with some kind of logic in 2D (a matrix) and the user would navigate it like google maps
A prototype isn't that difficult to make. The library does most of job which is draw, zoom & pan.
Javascript isn't my main language but I think I handle it, yes.
The main question is usability/performance when there are 2k crumbs and 6k tweets in it.
An other way would be to make a fake layer/ovelay in a real mapping library but I've zero experience with that.
Anons, any working theory on periods of Q silence?
The horizontal box is probably Q team sleeping.
The vertical silence (multiple days) can't be Q team is on vacation.
There must be a connection with the map and I suspect those dates can't be used - mathematically - for adding crumbs to the map.
Any thoughts?
The purpose is having COMMS where there seems to be none. That's the whole point. Plausible deniability.
Please do, the SEQUENCE is extremely relevant and we need to find it. And as some anon said it could be the keystone to apply.
Talking about new ideas…
I just had a strange dream . First it was in english (not my first lang). Second I was on a military plane with some operators and POTUS was there drawing triangles on the QMAP. Then I woke up and thought that's nuts.
Now I was working on crumb #365 and stumbled on this, which I totally forgot about:
> 3 sides form what shape?
> Expand your thinking.
> Re-read crumbs.
> Q
3 sides -triangle!
So, thinking laterally about it, the idea that came is: maybe connections come out from the triangles if we draw them on the map (think crossroads/intersections). That would be why the graphic is critical, there's no other way to see the connection because its never direct.
So…on a normal 2D map we would use 2 coordinates X,Y to identify any point on it.
What if we are looking for sets of 3 numbers to identify the triangle?
Or even just 2 coordinates if we include the angles of the map by default. (in the dream that's how POTUS did it)
I'm trying to think about what the axes of map would be but I'm shooting in the dark so far, probably related to timestamp anyway.
As always I just hope these rambling enable new ideas for other anons.
Talk about syncronicity…
Still working on #365 and look what's right there
> “The Great Awakening”
> POTUS today.
Funnily enough on Dec 14 Q had problems with CBTS boards
and posted #350 as anon which starts with:
> Shall we play a game?
Same as line 3 on #365
On Dec 19 there was no meaningful delta…
Luckily there is a tweet that starts with 'Today' on Dec 14, pic related
In the video he says "We'll have a Great…regulatory climate"
> CUT THE RED TAPE
deltafags…help needed here.
Still on #365, trying to identify:
Q/POTUS-1
Q/POTUS-2
Q/POTUS-3
Q/POTUS-4 [10]
Q/POTUS-5
I think we can safely assume Q/POTUS-4 is #334 (Merry Christmas vs Happy Hanukkah)
But why 4?
On 12/12/2017 there were exacly 5 tweets but that's the fifth of the day, not the fourth. Counting from 0 would still miss the fifth.
So I've been looking at positive deltas starting from the first "shutdown" on Q#282
POSITIVE DELTA FROM #282:
#306 [7]
#307 [3]
#308 [16]
#309 [9]
#310 [3]
POSITIVE DELTA AFTER #334:
#432 [34]
#433 [32]
#434 [20]
Sadly all after #365
An other option would be to limit the search between the second "shutdown", which is post #332, and post #365 but the only Q/POTUS delta in there is #334.
What's your take? which 5 deltas would you consider given 4 is Q#334/T-361?
Forgot to add, funny thing about that [10] delta.
I think it was a "message sent."
As in look what was just signed
Less than 2 days later Q lost access to the board and had to change tripcode. First pic related.
Technically there is no such thing as 'getting closer' when talking about cracking an hash but then second pic.
mmmh
IF we consider only [5] [10] and [15]
there are only 3 previous deltas:
[15] #74
[15] #86
[5] #232
By the same logic the fifth would be #447 which is the first [5] after #334
>KEYSTONE symbols
Is that common to mark highways with that symbol?
From Q#262
> Take multiple paths.
> One connects to another.
To expand on that graphic I made an other one.
In this example I connected the same phrases on different crumbs. intersection/crossroads enable to connect 2 topics seemingly unrelated.
Problem is we don't know the layout of the crumbs yet.
I thought maybe we should start a new column when each marker listed in my previous post.
So:
first column: 1-73
second: 74-85
third: 86-231
fourth: 232-333
fifth: 334-446
and so on…
If OP feels we are sliding I can make a new thread dedicated to chartfagging
We got 4/5 matching
Comes down to #310 [3] vs #86 [15]
I choose [5] and [15] because of pic related.
Didn't make a lot of sense to me not to consider other deltas but the match was exactly there…
I'm not sure if you've seen this.
Found it in a huge pdf linked in the bread dough.
The author gives these as the 43 connections but gives no explanation of it…
>could you repost the link?
>is it the qmap pdf?
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QMap & Mirrors PDF:
New QMap v. X.V (10.5) release
MEGA: https://mega.nz/#!liYk1C4L!fYd01ipkA7gUc_9TjJLAqX6R8MvBscSCBjNDzfSIOl4
SCRIBD: https://www.scribd.com/document/396947368/Q-Anon-The-Storm-X-V?secret_password=dyEKxNsrf3t0v3p41VUC
MEDIAFIRE: https://www.mediafire.com/file/iwbwkxbgme4u3p7/Q+Anon+-+The+Storm+-+X.V.pdf
A couple of random inputs:
First pic - House of cards, more triagles
Second pic - web on multiple circles with key/legend
first pic: any info on dumps vs dumbs ?
second pic: 10 vs [10] ?
[10] is the marker here, what is 10?
12/7 - 12/17 ? is this winding the clock?
Marker [X] = go back X days?
wrong pic
So [5] = 1min?
Never winding the clock?
can you elaborate?
Just came out with these question to help reason on the clock:
1) Where to wind to?
2) When to wind?
3) What it means when it's running?
4) When does it run out?
5) Why it runs out?
6) What happens when it runs outs?
Trying to make a list for the map and other 'objects' too.
Objective is reply the questions with proven proofs so we can divide the problem in smaller parts.
>Then, it being Post #96, a "mirrorsble" number.
I tend to not consider posts # as info until way into 2018, might be wrong.
>So does that fix the "b"? making it "p"?
>Sound like the Smoking Caterpillar. Hmmmmmmmm?
kek
>Btw noone is commenting on my propsed sequence of deltas for the next (7) Q/POTUS deltas.
>Or were 5 deltas only a one-time deal?
Saw that but my theory is that Q/POTUS-3 is a [5], the [3] seems cherry picked to me.
Then in your sequence we need 2, 5, 5 after #447 (Q/POTUS-5) and I'm not seeing them.
Lurked a bit on the Qclock thread and finally they are trying new ideas. When should keep in mind the monticello clock too, pic related.
Still seems cherry picked to me.
There is an other [3] in #307, why should we not consider it?
Clarification: I'm not saying it's not a marker. Just that it's not intended in that sequence
All good anon.
I'll recap how I came to my proposal for the record and sanity of us and future anons.
Trying to find what there are, from post #365 (Dec 19, 2017):
> Q/POTUS-1
> Q/POTUS-2
> Q/POTUS-3
> Q/POTUS-4 [10]
> Q/POTUS-5
Went here:
https://qanon.news/deltas.html
First Assumption:
Q/POTUS-4 [10] is post #334 (Merry Christmas. Q)
Used the filter at the top for [5], [10] and [15]
[5] gives: #232, #447
[10] gives: only #334
[15] gives: #74, #86
In order: #74, #86, #232, #334, #447
So:
Q/POTUS-1 [15] -#74
Q/POTUS-2 [15] -#86
Q/POTUS-3 [5] -#232
Q/POTUS-4 [10] -#334
Q/POTUS-5 [5] -#447
This is the only way I could find to make it work logically.
Filtered for 5, 10, 15 because of last pic.
Maybe it's a coincidence (for once).
The question still remains. Why that's a sequence we need to look at? And why filter?
Forgot this:
Why look after Dec 19, date of #365?
There is NO delta (using within the hour rule) until #432 on Dec 22.
>maybe I'm reading that wrong, but it seems like Q is talking about both the map and clock
It's clear they are strictly connected that's why we can't figure out one without the other.
Your notes reinforce the idea that we need to combine parts of the crumbs to get the full message.
I've considered that.
Very tought theory,yet
Notice how [5] is just before [10]?
Reasoning:
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On 12/12 last delta was a [5] and now we get a [10]?
Could this mean we need to wind by 10 after 5?
So on 12/17 wind to 12/7 ?
I'll polish the idea and explain better.
Meanwhile had a random thought about 'follow the watch'
ALL off this thread
SHUTDOWN.
Q/POTUS-1 [15]
Q/POTUS-2 [15]
Q/POTUS-3 [5]
Q/POTUS-4 [10] on 12/12 (highlighted by Q because currently active at the time of the post 12/18?)
Q/POTUS-5 [5] ← confirmed on 12/23
"Special Place"
Q mentions shutdown on 12/6
Q mentions shutdown on 12/11 (+5 days)
Q mentions special place on 12/11
POTUS tweets special place on 12/17 (+5 days after [10])
Do we need 2 markers to move around? One is the time to wait and the next is the amount to wind back?
Trying to find numbers in the speech of the video Q posted so many times (BTW jewtube reporting only 1.6 million views which is ridiculous)…
Could this be the size of the map?
I'm not into datefagging but could it be a countdown? In weeks?
> [next week]
> [next week]
> [next week]
>Having said that, let me just say this (and it is in agreement with you), Q is silent about post #s.
>Observe, Q never gave any instructions to number the posts in the graphic/map.
To be fair that's not true, pic related
But funny how that happened just a few crumbs after #1776
That decode would have been cool if it wasn't for the fact that there is an other crumb exacly the same…so let's just ignored that, shall we? kek
It saddens me that the Qclock didn't go anywhere as I somewhat thew out some ideas before it came to be.
Getting back to crumbs…did any Q/Q [0] delta happened before yesterday?
>There appears to be no importance to the number of columns in the graphic. I say this because, going back, way back to the posts on Pol, Have seen Q approve the map with only 3 columns as well as 6 columns.
>I only mention this because an Anon above was discussing the possible importance of breaks in the columns.
I see what you mean but maybe Q was just confirming the contents. Remember no trip was used at the time
>P.S. Has anyone else here noticed that on Qmap.pub the owner's headings can be misleading when he describes the post? For example, he described the map as being 50% complete when Q was saying Map 1/2 complete. A reading of the post and discussion on Pol revealed Q was actually saying that the 1st and 2nd maps posted were confirned. Recommend a caveat, the posts are described by owner, who may not understand the post.
Yes, most decodes made too soon and from a single source shall be disregarded.
Seconds of crumbs aren't reliable at time of posting, imo.
I'm aware of posts like this >>578647
Why post as anon? Can still be done with heavy shilling?
Q has multiple security layers which mean lots of delay to go through. Or CLASS tech?
Time will tell I guess
Can't argue with Kek, will look more into it
Ok anons, let's see if this makes sense.
Q dropped this >>5185770 pointing out we have it all ALREADY
I made a specific request (which I've discussed many times here also)
> Do we need to "physically" combine/rearrange lines from multiple crumbs to move forward on the messages?
3 crumbs later:
>Think McCabe [#2] interview re: meeting re: 25th amendment
>Think [RR] wear a wire re: attempt to entrap re: 25th….
>[2] accounted for?
>IDEN remaining coming.
>Note ‘Border Open’ context same drop.
>Border has more importance than what is publicly disclosed.
>Q
Things noticed:
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Attached graphic marks a specific line of Q#153. Happened before but usually Q just attaches entire crumb.
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[#2] marker, which in the past was used as a "Q lesson" (pic related)
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hint to check if we've found [2] and using it correctly in the decode?
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Reference 'border' which appears just once in that drop (third line after the marked one)
Is this building on that Q lesson or I'm reading too much into it?
Anon, you're up.
yeah, wtf
My reasoning is that it matters because it MUST be Q before POTUS.
And that's something I always considered was necessary because anyone can snipe posts after POTUS, even if just seconds.
That said…the third delta I would have considered a [1]
Now I not sure what to make of it
Given latest crumbs are much more varied I thought this could be relevant to my theory on the lines repeating word for word
Q is pointing out something, but what?
Given the total and this crumb my guess is the right side is closer to be accurate
Explain or fuck off
Posting here as general is a shillfest
Clip is from the movie Interstellar (2014), spoiler alert.
As was noted in the past there were multiple reference to the quote 'Do not go gentle into that good night' that also trump adapted as 'Americans will not go gentle into that good night' on 01/13/2019
At the end they use a method to communicate:
> Find how I tell her…
> The watch.
> The watch.
> That's it!
> We encode the data into the movement of the second hand
For keks, the data being encoded is called 'the Quantum data'
Could this be the clock Q was referencing?
gratz on double (you) !
EMBRACE FOR IMPACT