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You cant even spell it, moran. You know very little about the Catholic orders is my first guess. I could tell you quite a bit about some of them, but why cast pearls before swine? Never a good idea.
Not for dummies, scholars only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin
He can send one to Congress, and give the other live.
masons claim to be descended out of the Templars, but masons claim the same about almost any ancient religious society. masons are Sumerians, Egyptians, Greeks, etc etc according to masons.
Blake
I'm not a mason. You, however, are a fucking moran who should get off the internet and read moar.
"Stupid people are ruining this country." ~ H Cain
You're also substantively idiotic and clearly have never finished a book. The board would benefit if stupid anons such as yourself stopped attacking anons who actually have something to contribute based on actual knowledge and worldy experience rather than constantly hearing from know-nothing rubes who have accomplished nothing and been nowhere.
Catholics are really allowed to be masons, dum-dum.
*aren't
Just pay our bill and not a penny extra.
Yes, Im a Catholic and have a top 3% iq and two graduate degrees. You have some leftover meatloaf your mom made earlier. Fucking rube. Go fuck yourself, idiot.
I name-filtered ebot and the Freddys awhile ago, but yeah, there do seem to be fewer shills recently. Paychecks not clearing anymore?
Nobody is joining your lame little Church of Nobody.
You're the kind of stupid Anon who really ruins the board.
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin quotes
“Joy is the infallible sign of the presence of God.”
“We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience.”
“Someday, after mastering the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we shall harness for God the energies of love, and then, for a second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.”
“Above all, trust in the slow work of God.
We are quite naturally impatient in everything
to reach the end without delay.
We should like to skip the intermediate stages.
We are impatient of being on the way to something
unknown, something new.
And yet it is the law of all progress
that it is made by passing through
some stages of instability—
and that it may take a very long time.
And so I think it is with you;
your ideas mature gradually—let them grow,
let them shape themselves, without undue haste.
Don’t try to force them on,
as though you could be today what time
(that is to say, grace and circumstances
acting on your own good will)
will make of you tomorrow.
Only God could say what this new spirit
gradually forming within you will be.
Give Our Lord the benefit of believing
that his hand is leading you,
and accept the anxiety of feeling yourself
in suspense and incomplete.”
“There is almost a sensual longing for communion with others who have a large vision. The immense fulfillment of the friendship between those engaged in furthering the evolution of consciousness has a quality impossible to describe.”
“Our duty, as men and women, is to proceed as if limits to our ability did not exist. We are collaborators in creation.”
“Do not forget that the value and interest of life is not so much to do conspicuous things…as to do ordinary things with the perception of their enormous value.”
“Matter is spirit moving slowly enough to be seen.”
“In the final analysis, the questions of why bad things happen to good people transmutes itself into some very different questions, no longer asking why something happened, but asking how we will respond, what we intend to do now that it happened.”
“We are one, after all, you and I, together we suffer, together exist, and forever will recreate each other.”
“The future belongs to those who give the next generation reason for hope.”
“It doesn't matter if the water is cold or warm if you're going to have to wade through it anyway.”
“By means of all created things, without exception, the divine assails us, penetrates us, and molds us. We imagined it as distant and inaccessible, when in fact we live steeped in its burning layers”
“Some day, after we have mastered the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we shall harness for God the energies of love. Then for the second time in the history of the world, we will have discovered fire.”
― Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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“The most telling and profound way of describing the evolution of the universe would undoubtedly be to trace the evolution of love.”
“You have told me, O God, to believe in hell. But you have forbidden me to think…of any man as damned”
“God is not remote from us. He is at the point of my pen, my (pick) shovel, my paint brush, my (sewing) needle - and my heart and thoughts.”
“The time has come to realise that an interpretation of the universe—even a positivist one—remains unsatisfying unless it covers the interior as well as the exterior of things; mind as well as matter. The true physics is that which will, one day, achieve the inclusion of man in his wholeness in a coherent picture of the world.”
Most of these dumb anons are rubes who dont understand even the most basic principles of theology or anything else. Think small nowhere towns and backwoods.
Yeah, you have neither. Really
I dont like stupid people. Stupid people suck and cause lots of problems in the world with their nerdy, ignorant arrogance. They are similar to demoncrats.
I was on the internet in 1985 you dumbass. It was only for elite people back then, no dumbasses such as yourself.
Most Catholics basically believe that the Church has "everything," the universal catholic knowledge etc., whereas the various protestant sects are lacking different bits and pieces. That's why Catholic thought doesnt fear any ideas from any place. Catholic thought is secure and curious about everything. Most of Western Art, Literature, and institutions are Catholic in essence.
Some are, but some are just so dumb, they are sort of shilly without even knowing it. As you know, dumb people like Occasional-Cortex for example, give much more brain pain to others than to themselves.
Butler's Lives of the Saints is a fantastic book, you should browse it sometime about your favorite Saints.
You're definitely not one of the best of those people. Hicktown just isnt sending its best tonight. It wasn't slummy before the likes of you showed up and I was first on the internet on Wall St, not the Upper East Side. You can visit those places sometime–in the movies.
Do you enjoy being counterpunched, moran?
The Church is the primary target for masons, satanists, demoncrats, mooslams, and all the other crooked groups. That's not a coincidence.
Catholics are the primary victims of clergy child abuse. The Vatican existed some 1500 years before D.C., so hardly mirrors it. You would have quite a bit of learning to do to examine all the various art and artifacts of the Vatican, it could literally take a lifetime. I've spent some time there, it's massive and somewhat exhausting.
The answer to your question is, Because of sin. The Church has been under attack by Satan since the days of Jesus Himself.
From the Catechism
II. THE CHURCH - BODY OF CHRIST
The Church is communion with Jesus
787 From the beginning, Jesus associated his disciples with his own life, revealed the mystery of the Kingdom to them, and gave them a share in his mission, joy, and sufferings.215 Jesus spoke of a still more intimate communion between him and those who would follow him: "Abide in me, and I in you. . . . I am the vine, you are the branches."216 And he proclaimed a mysterious and real communion between his own body and ours: "He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him."217
788 When his visible presence was taken from them, Jesus did not leave his disciples orphans. He promised to remain with them until the end of time; he sent them his Spirit.218 As a result communion with Jesus has become, in a way, more intense: "By communicating his Spirit, Christ mystically constitutes as his body those brothers of his who are called together from every nation."219
789 The comparison of the Church with the body casts light on the intimate bond between Christ and his Church. Not only is she gathered around him; she is united in him, in his body. Three aspects of the Church as the Body of Christ are to be more specifically noted: the unity of all her members with each other as a result of their union with Christ; Christ as head of the Body; and the Church as bride of Christ.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p2.htm
(You) only speak for yourself, nobody else, and (you) do a poor job of it with your ignorant attacks.
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Protesant sects come and go about yearly over the past 500 years, and even in the early days of the Church, like Arians and Albigensians etc. I guess that's what people will do.
Btw, (you) are not a "we." (You) are not even fully a (you). Your kind of a half-you.
Those are traditions, not essential items of faith. You can find volumes of books on the symbolism of the Vatican. The Church is basically responsible for all Western knowledge and learning, including Art, Literature, Architecture etc etc etc.
Yes, those are crimes and sins, with Catholics as the primary victims.
Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, huh?
Saturn was a Greek god, not the Bibilical adversary.
The Church collected, reviewed, and codified the Bible and in later centuries, started translating into common languages like Italian. The Church also spread knowledge all over, including reading, math and science.
First truly useful thing youve done in 2019, I'm sure. Got a thorough counterpunching first though. That's gonna hurt in the morning.
Why, what exactly did he say? He never calls me or writes. I wish you'd take note and copy him i that.
The Church is run by men and every institution on earth is guilty of many sins and crimes, the Church is no exception. The Church is also directly responsible for the nation-states of Europe.
It's not so much hidden, as it is vast and complicated. Most people dont have the intellectual capacity of an Aquinas.
This Pope is the first one I've seen who is unpopular among Catholics. He seems like a Soetero. Benedict may be the real Pope. That said, there have been MUCH worse Popes than Francis.
Maybe the bathhouses were objectionable, where everybody commingled in the nude? Not sure on that . "Bathing" in ancient Rome was a thing.
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, they shall have their portion in the pool burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
You could say the same about Bushbama. Do you think the USA should also be discarded for the numerous crimes and sins effected by such people?
That def seems possible.
You can read about all that in Aquinas or Dante, if you have the intellectual capacity. Aquinas is more pithy, however, Dante is more poetic and accessible. I've read Aquinas in Latin and Dante in Italian. A lot of brain work was required for that. How about you?
It waxes and wanes. Hard to tell the status at any given time. It APPEARS that some Church swamp-draining is going on in the US Church, but it's hard to know for sure, it's so massive.
Btw, it's a duty of Catholics to defend the faith whenever it's attacked.
Ne cede malis.
Many of the great intellectuals have been Catholic, Augustine, Thomas More, et al. Many.
From the Catechism
IV. Hell
1033 We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves: "He who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him."610 Our Lord warns us that we shall be separated from him if we fail to meet the serious needs of the poor and the little ones who are his brethren.611 To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called "hell."
1034 Jesus often speaks of "Gehenna" of "the unquenchable fire" reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.612 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,"613 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"614
1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."615 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.
1036 The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few."616
Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where "men will weep and gnash their teeth."617
1037 God predestines no one to go to hell;618 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":619
Father, accept this offering
from your whole family.
Grant us your peace in this life,
save us from final damnation,
and count us among those you have chosen.620
Dante is one of the greatest poets of all time, on par with Homer or Shakespeare. I'm really not into opinions based on lack of knowledge. Waste of time.
Dante poeticized some of the teachings of Aquinas, the Great Doctor of the Church.
I posted the Catechism on Hell a few posts above.
Did he become unhinged and just start yelling? I just experienced that. I got not time for that.
The Catechism references the Bible throughout by Chapter and verse, which you will see when you look at it.
IV. Hell
1033 We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves: "He who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him."610 Our Lord warns us that we shall be separated from him if we fail to meet the serious needs of the poor and the little ones who are his brethren.611 To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called "hell."
1034 Jesus often speaks of "Gehenna" of "the unquenchable fire" reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.612 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,"613 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"614
1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."615 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.
1036 The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few."616
Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where "men will weep and gnash their teeth."617
1037 God predestines no one to go to hell;618 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":619
Father, accept this offering
from your whole family.
Grant us your peace in this life,
save us from final damnation,
and count us among those you have chosen.620