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In order for capitalism to work, there has to be someone making more money than someone else based on the sense that they took the risk for a venture to succeed, while employing people for a fraction of the cost of the service provided. The problem is, admitting this gets you labeled a socialist. Taking risks and accepting responsibility deserve a higher wage, sure, but who is the judge of what's amicable in that regard?
For the workers, they can take their services elsewhere, but the ebb and flow of labor forces vs management is what got us into debates like NAFTA to begin with. UPS is a prime example. UPS management wanted a way to organize their labor. Laborers wanted more share of the pie for their services. Unions were invited in to create the balance. UPS, to cut cost, forced everyone into part time positions to avoid benefits. Unions fought harder to gain benefits for part timers. UPS, as a company, found themselves in a more difficult position to become profitable, so the standard practice was to fire anyone before they hit their 2nd/3rd month of employment. Unions started drafting people way sooner, and then, cheap labor started flooding the scene. You basically cannot get ad-hoc work on trucking docks anymore (as an individual from a particular background) because that market is over saturated with cheap labor.
Used to be, a 17 or 18 year old guy from shitsville, wherever could show up at the docks, offer labor to help, and the truckers would pay cash money. Now? It's extremely organized by labor groups utilizing the services of millions of "immigrants"; forcing the homegrown to go elsewhere and demand 15 per hour to flip burgers.
Socialism is a failure. Capitalism pits the most competitive at the top no matter how you slice and dice it. Any attempts at an equitable middle ground are just varying degrees of socialism sprinkled into capitalism. This empty suit socialist is not going to solve this debate with empty suit capitalists. Not because they don't care or somewhat understand the issues inherent in both systems, but because the people wanting better wages for the workers absolutely refuse to acknowledge where the real source of the problem lies, while trying to maintain a constituency of actual Americans. You can't have it both fucking ways.
Either stand up for Americans, or get the fuck out of the conversation.