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Republican Peach Mint Defense Highlights: Tues Jan 28 2020: page 1 Cippolone, Philbin

 

Pat Cippolone introduces Patrick Philbin 10:07 PST

 

Patrick Philbin

Article 1 Abuse of power charge observations:

Builds on Dersh's discussion of Constitutionality.

Maladministration: too vague. Same with treason from english system -

also too value so they defined it very specifically.

Bill of attainder and exposto facto laws were also rejected are too maleable.

We have to have enumerated and defined offenses, narrowly defined.

House mrgs are using subjective/malleable stds, which is dangerous.

Violates a fundamental premise of the Constitution.

Inherent in their definition of "abuse of power"

Which they defined by comparing what staffers recommended to what he actually did

Charges says things like the POTUS "ignored official policy" (etc)

the POTUS is the one who sets policy within the constraints set by Congress

NOT the staffers

POTUS has a lot of executive power

The "check" on this is an election every four years

House mgrs approach = anti-democratic.

 

Cover-up accusations:

House mgrs also introduced the idea that

WH lawyers were involved in a coverup

No - everyone had access to the call transcript at all times

Morrison recommended restricting access bc of leak potential

Transcript moved to the server to higher classification server

Bc staff interpreted the direction to restrict access to change the classification

But everyone (all witnesses) agreed that there was no inappropriate intent.

 

Whistleblower complaint not given to congress.

Office of Legal Counselwas the concern urgent? NO. Defines urgent concern. 10:30 PST

OLD determined that the alleged misconduct was NOT an urgent concern.

Only applied to intelligence activity, not a call between the leaders of two countries.

If not urgent, matter gets referred to Dept of Justice

DOJ looked at it and determined there wasn't a violation months ago.

NO improper handling.

This was a "'reckless allegation'''.

 

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Republican Peach Mint Defense Highlights: Tues Jan 28 2020: page 2 Sekulow

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Jay Sekulow 10:36 PST

Standards of impeachment

focus on "danger, danger, danger" of setting impeachment standards too low.

to use the stds used by the House mgrs is dangerous.

POTUS was under investigation prior to being elected = Crossfire Hurricane

Led by FBI; Comey told POTUS a little bit saying the Steele Dossier

was salacious and unverified

However, was used to obtain FISA warrants

But House mgrs said any discussions on abuse of FISA were conspiracy theories

[discusses why it's not–how there was a fraudulent is a presentation, etc]

Comey decides to leak a memo on a conversation with POTUS

Purpose: to obtain the appt of a special counsel

Special council investigation later ensued

But Bob Mueller allowed the phones of Strzok and Page to be wiped clean

when that investigation was ongoing

 

You can't view this case in a vacuum

You are being asked to remove a POTUS–and to do it in an election year

So we had a Special Counsel and we got the report [there's moar–worth a listen]

Then we wonder why is POTUS concerned about the advice he's being given?

Put yourself in his shoes.

The idea that POTUS is only doing things for himself–

while all these things were going on–

House mgrs perspective: dire national security threat, must be done before Christmas

And then to hold the articles for 33 days?

Never answered the q why they said emergency and then held the articles

 

Then we have Burisma– do we have a Biden-free zone? (where we can't ask about this?)

Legal ramifications of the facts presented.

Put yourself in POTUS shoes during the call: lots of listeners, he knew this.

POTUS has been concerned about other countries–their responsibilities [in Ukranian situation]

Zelensky denied pressure was felt. So we talked about quid pro quo.

[reviews Dersh's discussion of last night]

 

Re NYT article on what's in John Bolton's book

Dersh said it doesn't matter; even if true, not a basis for impeachment

House mgrs witnesses: There is no violation in law, there's a disagreement on policy

That's why we have elections.

Impeachment not the right remedy ("danger, danger, danger")

What is this really about? Policy disagreements.

Mueller Report [they were really hoping it would show collusion]

 

Re Ukrainian corruption [it was a valid concern]

Aid WAS given – and it was for the following year. [Ukraine was not "deprived"]

Sept 5 1999 - High Court for Corruption in Ukrainian met [bc of ongoing corruption concern]

To Congress: Are you gonna allow impeachment [to depend on a NYT article]?

Pausing aid: was done for many countries, not just Ukraine. 11:08

 

Glaring omissions of House mgrs: what we've been focusing on

George Washington invoked executive privilege [a Constitutional right]

"Let's not start calling Constitutional rights "other nonsense""

The House of Rep thinks the lawyer-client confidentially doesn't apply

This should scare every lawyer in Washington DC

They say that in letters. Do they really believe that?

If so, then there is no atty-client privilege.

Danger, danger, danger.

 

Javelin purchase: some House mgrs voted for, some voted against

It's a policy difference.

Impeach Obama bc he didn't given them that aid? NO–coz it's a policy difference.

but when POTUS has a different policy, they say it's not ok.

 

"Separation of powers means something–it's not 'separation of power and other nonsense' "

If partisan impeachment is now the rule of the day–it should never be the rule of the day.

But "muh emergency". [Then they hold the articles for over a month]

Bar for impeachment cannot be set this low. 11:17 PST

 

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Republican Peach Mint Defense Highlights: Tues Jan 28 2020: page 3 Cippolone, McConnell

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Pat Cippolone 11:36 PST

 

I just want to leave you with a couple of points.

 

All you need is the Constitution and your common sense.

Articles fall far short of any Constitutional standard–"and they are dangerous"

Clip of the words of the MANAGERS speaking against impeachment for Clinton:

Nadler, Lofgren, Schumer.

[Schumer: "My fear is, when a Republican wins the WH, Democrats will demand payback."]

Cipollone to Schumer: "You were right, but I'm sorry to say you were also prophetic." [laughter] 11:45.

"I couldn't say it better myself."

"You know what the right answer is in your heart."

"House mgrs want you to throw out a successful president on the eve of an election."

Would change our country and weaken our democratic institutions.

"Why not trust the American people with this decision? Why tear up their ballots?"

"You can't do that, you know you can't due that."

"Overturning the last election and massively interfering with the upcoming one

would cause serious and lasting damage."

 

It's a Republic–if you can keep it. – Franklin

[if (((they))) let us] - Cippolone

This should end now–as quickly as possible.

END OF PRESENTATION

 

Mitch McConnell 11:36 PST

Has reached an agreement with the other side.

Question period will be two days, starting Wed.

Q's will alternate between sides for up to 8 hours (16 hours total)

Qs must be in writing.

During Clinton trial, Senators were thoughtful and brief with their q's

and respondents were brief in their answers

M hopes this will be the case again.

Will commence on Wed Jan 29 1pm EST.