Family Y is Vanderbilts. (HEAVY donations to YMCA (The "Y") over generations)
There's been a lot of digging.
Keep at it and report back with new finds.
All ears anon.
Remember, Q drop 15 states:
>Realize Soros, Clintons, Obama, Putin, etc. are all controlled by 3 families (the 4th was removed post Trump's victory).
We know that the 4th family was 'rock' according to Q which we all assume is the Rockefellers.
That leaves 3 families that are doing the controlling.
Then drop 142 Q states
>How did Soros replace family ‘y’?
>Who is family ‘y’?
>Trace the bloodlines of these (3) families.
So we know Soros replaced a family, and that 3 families controled soros, clintons obama etc.
We also know from Q drops that + is Sauds, ++ is Roths, and +++ is soros (now) and that ++++ was Rockefellers.
Rockefeller died post POTUS win,
Soros replaced family Y
which makes the other 2 of the 3 families discussed in drop 15 Sauds and Roths.
So who is family Y?
And how do we 'follow them around the world?'
We started digging the Vanderbilt family and following their Rail and Steamships around the world.
The results was tremendous. Tons of info, tons of connections, and basically a roadmap for the cult.
Per last bread we started with the New York New Haven Railroad which spawned the Seneca Oil Company which founded the Standard Oil boom that created the Rockefeller family.
Is that congruent with Q's assertion that Rock was ++++? and family y was +++ replaced by soros?
Certainly shows the influence of the Vanderbilts over Rockefellers.
The Vanderbilt dig then goes on to discover connections around the founding of Eastman Kodak (propaganda) and Gannett (MSM).
Further digging reveals through the Michigan Central Railroad Ford and the auto industry, along with International Harvester and the McCormick families all tied to the Vanderbilts.
This was through the LA TIMES owend by the Chandler familiy, of "Rachel chandler the child handler" fame.
So you can see how the vanderbilt cult starts to make sense as an interconnected system that works for the cult and not for you.
Sprinkle in some Rothschilds monetary policy and anons/normies alike work for major wealth industries,
yet the value of their labor is chiseled away over time (central banking and inflation) while the true work/energy benefits the cult.
The people can never get ahead.
So that's the gist of the Vanderbilts = Family Y, especially considering they donated HEAVILY to the switzerland based YMCA.
fundamentally sugar is 100% unneeded by the human body.
If anything it's a hijacking of our body by fruits which conveniently evolved to ripen just before winter.
A time when nomadic humans needed to plump up to make it through the winter.
Sugar spikes insulin, a fat story hormone.
Continual consumption of carbs in general makes for a fat society.
You don't need to go complete ketosis (energy derived exclusively from fat/protein)
but we absolutely could do without sugar in our culture.
High fiber sugars like berries are generally not a big deal, but simple sugars abound in all foods now adays.
High sugar = inflammation which = metabolic disease.
Biggest killer in the western world.
Roths are the LEADERS of the cult, but the cult needs to interact with the people. Control over the people.
Nowadays that's SOROS and his NGOS,
it used to be the Vanderbilts.
Family Y does not mean Y head.
Y head means cult, which is lead by Roths,
but 'Family Y' per Q cannot be roths if you follow the drops.
I roughly explain it in the above linked post.
I'm with you.
Expand on how soros took over and how their system works.
This is basically the Payseur dig.
If you can shed some light on that you'd be top anon.
My theory was that the monarchy (your bourbon/windsor family) used to be in the place that modern day Sauds were.
The devil himself (figuratively).
The 'I Am Rofschilds' ama stated that the roths used to work for the devil (bourbon/windsor) but now own him.
Ever see the roths interact with the monarchies?
It's that of the owner/boss.
So my theory was that the monarchs were relegated to the cult, but overtaken by Roths/Sauds.
Remember the +++ ++ + all make a triangle.
They bound the eye of providence.
Within it is the cult.
Legacy famiilies like the fords, rockefellers, mellons, mccormicks, etc. along with the former devil himself, the euro monarchs.
At the top was the sauds, the bloody wonderland, who represented the IDEA of the devil/satan.
I think our digs are congruent, just the explaination of who familiy Y is is at odds.
I still stand firm that Vanderbilts are family Y. It can't be more simple than they donated to The Y heavily.
The question then becomes, what is the Y exactly, who leads it and where did it come from?
Following the Vanderbilts revealed a mountain of info that anons can dig and find.
Notice the same archway design as Epsteins temple?
And the Frick Collection in NYC?
And the Eastman Dental Dispensary in London?
and on and on and on…
Gloria's marriage to the Hungarian royal family relevant?
The Habsburg coat of arms…
Assicurazioni Generali Group insurance logo…
So which family disappeared?
Habsburg?
Austrian monarch?
Curious motto for the Habsburg family
>"Leave the waging of wars to others! But you, happy Austria, marry; for the realms which Mars awards to others, Venus transfers to you."
Mars being men
Venus being women,
as in "follow the wives" as in what the Bourbon/Windsor anon earlier this bread was saying.
I can dig this.
Cass died in the 1800s.
He was the governor of the MI territory.
And he was interconnected with the fledgling Michigan/NY Central rail system that eventually came under Vanderbilt control.
I can get into this,
but you need to tie it into Q drops,
why called 'family y?'
We know they use females as priestess of the cult,
and Guccifer 1 implied HRC was one of these witches,
whey did she seem to answer to LDR in her leaked emails?
That puts the Roths above HRC no?
The Vanderbilts were socially ostracized often for being 'new money' compared to the monarchs.
I have provided proof time and time again that the rockefellers were subservient to the vanderbilts, at least in creation of their wealth.
They were beholdened to the vanderbilts for distribution as well!
The seneca oil company was bank rolled by the pierpont family in new haven, ancestors of JP Morgan, and I suspect Roth agents in the new world just like the Belmonts.
You still haven't implied why you think they are Q's "family Y"
What evidence from Q drops? and symbolism from 'following them around the world' do you have?
I agree, at least historically.
It's pretty clear that the Sauds took over as the prime evil in the world.
Bloody wonderland and all.
Sauds
Roths
Vanderbilts
Rockefellers
that was the traditional cult heirarchy,
It didn't mean there was no place within the eye of providence for FORD, Eastman, Kellogg, Firestone, Edison, Tower, Loeb, Gates, McCormick, etc.
The cult is MANY people collectivizing their intent over space and time through ritual.
The cult leaders are Roths (Q told us). (https://qmap.pub/read/299)
The bloody wonderland is saudi arabia and the sauds/zamils.
They're the prime evil since bretton woods implementation.
That leaves who?
Payseur/cass? I'm open to the idea this anon is implying that they maybe the top of the top.
Above Sauds if you will.
But they could have just died out as well.
That still leaves rock and vanderbilt to place in this hierarchy.
Q said the 4th family was removed in 2016, well we had the death of david rockefeller…
https://qmap.pub/read/299 same drop
Rock was a part of the eye's boundary in the past,
they were removed,
along with the sauds.
that left us with roths and soros, (Soros at the bottom _ and roths as one side )
soros took over for family Y,
and if you read that drop for what soros' role is in the present, that's control over organizations of people.
The same role the Vanderbilts played in their control over Eastman Kodak, Gannett, LA Times, and the Auto Industry.
They controlled the FLOW of people. The flow of information (Western Union).
I'm willing to accept that sauds being one side of the eye, /, roths being the other \ and soros being the bottom _ was the current setup.
Recently in the past it was Rockefellers as "/" and Roths as "\" and Vanderbilts as the _ (family Y which was taken over by Soros)
Now that's a triangle, who is at the top of this triangle? If these families are just SIDES not the apex of the triangle, then that is where the Payseur/Merovingian descendancy lay.
How do you account for HRC being outright subservient to LDR in the leaked emails?
What about Clinton and his buddy McLarty owning/participating in the American Transportation Company?
It was sold to the McCormick's International Harvester.
Not the moves of an all powerful descendant of of the Merovingian dynasty.
And revealing the top of the pyramid would be the Witch Hunt we're on?
If they spread through female lines…
It could be.
Can we prove it?
First thing that shocked me was that the YMCA was based in switzerland.
I'm a firm believer that switzerland is a vassal state of the former reigning french monarchy acting through napoleon.
Guillaume Henri Dufour was a former officer of Napoleon, and the hero of the switzerland civil war.
He also presided over the formation of the International Red Cross…
A lot of switzerland stuff is sketchy as shit.
OP anon is implying that HRC and Chelsea are the heirs to the bourbon monarchy.
That would mean they're the figurative EYE in the eye of providence.
They're the top of the hierarchy of evil.
Then tell me why did she sacrifice a chicken to moloch for failing LDR?
He was funded by the rothschilds and other jewish bankers of the day.
He came in and saved the French monarchy, eventually leading to a reestablishment of the former bourbon monarchy after his reign,
he also took captive the pope, asserting French control over the catholic world…
By this time, supposedly Payseur/Cass fled to america with the help of the english and some resident loyalists in North Carolina.
He then moved to Michigan and acted as governor of the MI Territory.
He was heavily involved in the fledgling MI Central and NY Central railroad system that came to be dominated by the Vanderbilt family.
All in all I suspect Napoleon was a bit of a "break in case of emergency" item for when the people got too uppity and revolted.
The french revolted against the bourbon monarchy, then proceeded to willingly let Napoleon turn into a dictator and dominate europe.
After napoleon they reinstated the second bourbon monarchy…
it's all kinds of fuckery.
LDR is lynn forester de rothschilds.
Q speaks about her a lot.
She also is found in the podesta/clinton email leaks essentially asserting control over HRC, with HRC offering up penance…
Your implication that HRC is in charge doesn't vibe with the evidence to the contrary that she is subservient to others.
Guccifer 1 implied she was a priestess of the cult. That I'm willing to accept.
As for the Rockefellers, how do they interplay with the roths and vanderbilts who at the time were the main power players in the world?
How did the Sauds make their way into the mix?
Finally, I agree completely about the napoleon gig post revolution being a bourbon family response antebellum,
I can also see windsors being culprit, certainly they knew how bad it hurt with the American revolution…I'm still not convinced though.
I think you have a lot of good info, but you do not sauce it with Q drops. That would help a lot.
That will make you defecate a river of liquid shit.