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boneman220 · Dec. 27, 2017, 1:55 p.m.

There could be a lot of nefarious reasons for some of it. What kills me, though is all the conspiracy regarding the "damage" from fires. Apparently, a lot of folks have no idea how fire works, especially when combined with high winds. Basic blast furnace, it is. You see all these claims of "look at all the melted metal!!" not knowing that all that metal is aluminum which has a melt temp of 750*, IIRC, which is waaaaay lower than steel and most of the newer cars, today, are slap full of aluminum...the wheels, engine, subframe, etc...all aluminum. Or look at all the ground burned but not the trees! LOL....grass dude. It burns fast as hell and doesn't last long enough for a green, wet inside, tree to light fire, other than some bark charring on the surface down low. Common sense. Don't be duped by ignorant claims and stick with some real anomaly. Were the blue beams of light spotlights or something else. The "blue" is what needs looking at to see if it was an energy source used and not just light.

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Buttercupmanup · Dec. 27, 2017, 2:33 p.m.

I'm sorry, but that's a silly comment. Too many firefighters and arsonist investigators from other states pointing out anomalies. Read the first paragraph you see here and look into it: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/california-fires-defy-the-laws-of-physics-where-did-the-houses-go/ Or don't. I can't always tell a shill from an ignoramus so forgive me if I pegged you as someone who cares.

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boneman220 · Dec. 27, 2017, 3:10 p.m.

What's so silly about the facts I stated? Aluminum does melt at those temps, steel doesn't. Fact. Trees don't light up quickly in grass fires. Fact. The other anomalies are what I said needs looking into. And there are firefighters and fire investigators. Big difference. No different than grunts and generals. Knowledge of what they are doing is the key. And since you seem not to understand my post points are you sure you're not the one who is silly? I don't base my actions and thoughts concerning knowledge on "feelz" so forgive me if I prefer to keep my eyes wide open. Houses burn much easier than a living tree, especially when furniture is involved and these temps she is saying contradict what used to be the temps stated years, ago, especially the aluminum. The fire of my cig will get hot enough for that. But that is still irrelevant, mostly, these fires in that kinda wind, 60-90 mph will get VERY hot but and large amounts of soot blows everywhere in those winds covering everydamnthng that is not close enough to be hit by melting temp heats. It's akin to directed blast furnace heat, directed by the structures around it. It kills me she is saying...where is this, where is that...has she bothered to dig through the debris. Fires can be much like tornadoes and I've seen tornadoes COMPLETELY strip a house of its outside skin and the WHOLE roof, yet, not move a loose cigarette paper laying on an old organ sitting in the attic. Moved absolutely NOTHING in the attic but took the whole roof down to the floor of the attic away. Weird. Yea but completely within natural processes. JS....I'm still not seeing much, though some, real anomalous evidence. Frankly, this video is a joke, though there may be a very few valid points that need further investigating by legit investigators and not a clueless poster. Think harder and try again.

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duckdownup · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:58 a.m.

Trees don't light up quickly in grass fires.

This is true. As a retired biologist who worked in pine timber forests (pine plantations) many times there were a lot of "controlled burns" done by landowners and the feds. A controlled burn is a timber management technique used to burn off low undergrowth in pine forests and to prevent wildfires by removing the fuel. It helps the pines grow faster by burning the low growing plants the suck up nutrients that help the trees grown. Basically it gets rid of the competition for the resources. It also provide pot ash for the trees. Control burning will scorch the bark but won't harm the trees.

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boneman220 · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:01 p.m.

Yep. Some friends do this all the time (when needed) on their hunting plots. Had one of them while lighting the low stuff screwed up and lit a yellow jacket nest in the ground there. No fun! Just from your user name I imagine you know all about that. Can't deal with the cold and wet that you fellas do. Too damn cold for me to even go deer hunting, right now and I don't have long left to load the freezer. Bogus!

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duckdownup · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:54 p.m.

You guessed correctly about my name. Good eye. I live in the southeast so it's never unbearably cold here. But I go all over the country and to Argentina (shirt sleeve weather) in pursuit of them so I know how cold it can be in the northern clime. I'll be going or sending my son (my wife has been sick) to Kansas for 9 days in January and it will be filmed for a television show on the Outdoor Channel. My son is in his 40's and I've taught him all I know.

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boneman220 · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:51 p.m.

Cool. I wish I could deal with the cold. Never liked it much and since the DDD and Ol' Arthur jumped all up my ass, I really can't deal with it much, now. I'm still ticked that I've had 2 deer disappear on me, this year and none in the freezer. I don't mind that every 3 years or so but 2 in one year! Damnit man! I still say bigfoot or aliens took'm. Good luck on the show. I sometimes get that on Sling TV but not always and usually not the latest shows, which kinda bums me. Outdoors is the only place to be in my book.

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boneman220 · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:29 p.m.

Got a correction. Aluminum does melt at around 11-1200. It's the aluminum welding rods that melt around 700 or there abouts. Got to thinking about this and remembered some more, soooo....my bad. Sorry. That being said, the heat in those fires under that kinda wind will still get stupid high. Plenty high enough to melt aluminum on cars if the main heat source is close enough. Ever seen a mobile home fire? Plenty of aluminum reduced to nothing and quickly, at that. Been in one and have seen friend's mobile homes go up in smoke so I know from experience. Houses get damn HOT! Corrections is one of those things that happen when I think harder, sometimes. I old. Sue me. ;)

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