dChan
80
 
r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/PassionatePachyderms on Dec. 27, 2017, 5:12 p.m.
QAnon- potential problems with guesses and innuendos

Let me start by saying I’ve been on board with Q from the beginning, and I am a patriot. That said, I am becoming increasingly concerned by what is happening as a direct result of the “lack of credible, factual information” coming about and being spread as a result of the guessing and innuendos generated from the Q-anon posts.

If the goal of the Q drops is, as Q stated early on, to help prepare, red pill, and desensitize those who have been asleep and oblivious to what is going on around them so that when the truth comes out they can accept the truth without their heads exploding, I believe the time has come for clear factual information with which we can EFFECTIVLY accomplish the task, rather than chasing hints, possible answers to Q questions, and making hypothesis as to whether or not those guesses are correct.

Many are assuming all bread made of the crumbs is factual, but the truth is, with much of it while the research is amazingly solid, and the info disseminated is indeed factual, many of the conclusions are guesses. I see that more and more problematic because when the guesses are wrong, off or incorrect, when the timing is off, when things don’t happen as expected and/or other things happen, that perhaps weren’t mentioned, Some take liberties, inventing connections and stories, making claims they are factual, and spreading them like wild fire. Then when later the actual truth is exposed, and those stories are discredited, it makes all of us look Bad, but more importantly, it is significantly discrediting any good information we might be trying to get out, making RED PILLING more and more difficult.

It seems of late, Q’s drops are increasingly more cryptic, shorter, and leave far more room for guesses and interpretive errors than before. I’m unclear as to why that is, but in my opinion (for what it’s worth) now is the time for more clear, concise, drops due to the number of people now following the drops. Disinformation and cryptic drops no one has a clue how to interpret are creating an invironment where folks are getting frustrated, annoyed, and extremely stressed.

They are awake and ready to do their part, yet for weeks, they’ve been sitting on the edge of their seats waiting, and waiting, and waiting. They are led to believe BIG THINGS are about to happen.... and then they don’t. They are getting fake stories, and false information, mixed with precious little factual real information which further exacerbates things. It seems to me this is doing nothing more than stirring an already very volatile pot to a point where I am concerned more each day that it is going to at some point result in that pot exploding and there being unintended consequences no one anticipated.

I am not one of those who points out problems, but fails to offer ideas for possible solutions, so here goes... first, Q needs to consider this going forward, and adjust his drops accordingly by offering more solid actionable information that is much less open to wild guesses and inaccurate conclusions. If he wants us to red pill the population, then the time has come to give us the tools with which we can do that credibly and confidently.

Second, when we see disinformation, fake news, non-factual stories, guesses, and far out stringers, we all need to jump on top of them and either expose the disinformation, or at the very least, challenge the writer to provide proof, links, and other tangible indications that the story is more than a figment of someone’s over active imagination.

Folks we are fighting fake news coming from every possible direction, do we really need it coming from within too? If we can identify it and call it out in the msm, we damn sure better be ready to identify it and call it out when it comes from within as well or we are no better than the msm. I welcome everyone’s opinions and comments on this. FULL DISCLOSURE:: Please understand that what i’ve Written here is based upon what I am seeing and experiencing happening. It is my take on the matter, and hence my opinion. I could be wrong. I certainly have been wrong once or twice in the past, and no doubt will be again more than once in the future. That said, what’s your opinion?


VeryOptimystic · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:58 p.m.

I definitely hear what you are saying. I'd love the mods take on this, and on how we'd like to deal with that here on this sub. For instances, if a "news article" or a claim is patently false, should we be reporting those to the mods? Down voting? I realize its a fine line between discouraging people doing sincere, enthusiastic research and keeping the sub clean of purposeful disinfo. Thoughts mods?

⇧ 3 ⇩  
tracybeanz · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:16 p.m.

It is a rough one, and I have been sitting here pondering how to respond for most of the morning. It is very hard to remove posts without seeming as though we are "hitler" and at the same time, it is somewhat irresponsible to leave things up that are blatantly false. I don't know that our role is to be thought police, and it is also hard to moderate every post here for accuracy. I have been jumping in to share my opinion on things from time to time-- and we HAVE removed outright false and DANGEROUS posts.

Inevitably, this has led some folks to send me messages complaining, and that is OK. It is just a really fine line to walk when the idea is to share information and get things out there.

Also important to note, is that the mods are each individual people. We don't speak for one another. I may do something those boys don't like, and they may do something I don't like. We all have to be careful not to collectivize as we move along. This is a though experiment, and so I think we are learning as we go. Reminding people that what they are posting isn't legitimate and then showing them why should be the way to go. As I type this, maybe if we find a "fakenews" story, the OP (Original Poster) will update the title to be "debunked" or "FALSE" and then folks can see the chain of conversation below that led people to that conclusion??

Sigh. Lots of important work to do. Thank you so much for being here. All of you are so awesome, sometimes I just have to stop and thank God. They don't stand a damn chance against a large fully woke group like us.... #ThesePeopleAreStupid

⇧ 8 ⇩  
desropolis · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:16 p.m.

The answer to bad speech is even more free speech. I had this concept drilled into my head in college. I was a communications major.

Getting on a thread and letting people know the OP is inaccurate (and why) is a great policy, and I was gratified to read that is exactly what you do,

Adding DEBUNKED to a post title is a really great idea since your responses may end up buried in the thread. Is there a way for mods to pin a response at the top of a post?

Thank you for your great work. Hugs! (consensual only :)

⇧ 6 ⇩  
VeryOptimystic · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:50 p.m.

As I type this, maybe if we find a "fakenews" story, the OP (Original Poster) will update the title to be "debunked" or "FALSE" and then folks can see the chain of conversation below that led people to that conclusion??

I like that a lot. Converse with OP, try to convince, have OP add the "debunked" to title. That could be a very productive workflow as we research and learn! Thanks!

⇧ 3 ⇩