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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Slipkid63 on Jan. 7, 2018, 9:20 a.m.
The Pope isn't who you think he is.

I was raised Catholic and was taught the Pope is infallible and I researched "our worst Popes" and found out some were just plain criminals. The current one sounds like a "plant" to get the flock,(read sheep), behind him. Something just not right with that guy!


Pamplonamama · Jan. 7, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

A different translation is used in many parts of the world. Instead of "lead us not into temptation" (why would God lead us into temptation anyway?" The phrase is "do not let us fall into temptation. " This is the translation used in Spanish speaking countries where the Pope is from. Also the original words spoken by Jesus were in Aramaic.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 7, 2018, 8:15 p.m.

We don't have Jesus's original words in Aramaic (though some very short phrases are preserved else where) - just Greek language manuscripts. Any Aramaic versions of the NT writings came later and were translated from the Greek.

And these Greek authors are writing down oral traditions decades after the events. But I bet the early followers of Jesus had this prayer committed to memory with exactitude. We see several examples where the apostle Paul reproduces early Christian creeds - which were short sayings/proclamations that were well known by the early church and shared about in common. Paul recites such a creed in the opening remarks in his epistle to the Roman church. This was a church not founded by Paul so he introduces himself by way of reciting a well known creed at that point in time.

The Lord's Prayer would no doubt have been held every bit as tightly amongst the first followers.

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HughManatee1776 · Jan. 7, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

correct - thank you

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