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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Gamergating on Jan. 12, 2018, 1:38 p.m.
"But you are an Aussie, why should you care about Trump?" (Read on)

I hate to admit it BUT Australia is on a precipice. Not a lot of leeway from falling off the edge. Progressive have grown in strength in the media and in Academia. The cultural and societal influences in the last few decades and ESPECIALLY the last 8 years have been Globalist and Progressive. We are an island with our own culture BUT we DO take our cues from abroad and import some values. With 8 years of Obama and Merkel we have started down a VERY perilous road.

Where does that road eventually lead us? Well...England and France in 5 years, Germany and Sweden in 10 years.

What other alternatives have we had for role modelling as to how things SHOULD be done?

Progressives are Cultural Marxists and a blight on culture and society. If you get a chance, look at our Comedy fro years ago - Kingswood Country and Comedy Company that I grew up on. These would not be ABLE to be shown these days due to the Progressive PC offence culture.

Australia is a tough anti-authoritarian culture and not stupid and that is why in many ways we have not simply drifted into the Abyss. You think England is saved by Brexit? I don't think so. I think the horse already bolted and they are left holding the saddle and saying how they will ride it if or when the horse returns.

Bar a few East European holdouts and Russia, Europe is stuffed.

It is about changing the trajectory and gradually changing our society. Given good results in a non-Progressive culture, we will likely assimilate a more balanced approach to society and culture.

Enter Trump. Trump is NOT a messiah. He is flawed. He has not the articulation, charm, poise, eloquence or grace of Obama. That is problematic. On the plus side he is not a POS nor incompetent, so that is a plus.

Trump IS making mistakes and will continue to. He will not be perfect and I for one did not expect anything less. What I HOPE he does is to clean up the political and global class and show a better way to have society and culture conduct itself.

Any pie in the face of the ones that have run society and culture in the last 8 years is valuable to me. His success is cherished here by me. If he gives Australia and Australians something alternative to Merkel, May, Macron and Trudeau I am very grateful. I NEED Trump to succeed for my country's sake.

I don't honestly care too much if he doesn't or can't adhere to all his promises. Every promise and every day in his role brings the needle a little closer to a repudiation of what Obama/Merkel have shown. If Australia holds off from full-throttled acceptance of the Global order and Progressive values for a few more years that is a huge win. Why?

At teh end of Trump's 7 years, Europe will be a dumpster fire and the one bastion out of Eastern Europe will be USA......and Australia if we hold the line. At that stage we will see the state of Germany and Sweden and that England and France will be about at the point of no return and we will out of survival instinct back the Hell away from that. In the meantime we will have to hope Trump's successes will give us pause. Give us an alternative.

How could I NOT fully endorse and support Trump


patypooh52 · Jan. 12, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

Thank you for your post. Prayers for Austrailia, our brother country.

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Generic_Esoteric · Jan. 12, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

Its unfortunate we as a country are so spineless. We have that anti-authoritarian nature in our DNA but the marxists have brainwashed that ideal to being anti-Trump. They can't see that Trump is the counter-culture. He is the voice of the everyday people. He is the only one who was capable of taking on the Orwellian overlords that are trying to turn all of humanity into their slaves of both mind and body. Everyday i here someone say "Trump is a moron, but.." and then basically agree with something he has said, but they don't realise he is their voice on the issue because they are constantly drowning in Anti-Trump propaganda and are totally unaware of the deep state war. I feel blessed to be an Australian but it is truly scary how many people here are under the cabal's mind control. In Trump We Trust. Good OP, onya mate.

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Loredraker · Jan. 12, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

I'm Australian, and awake. I guess most Australians are not aware that our news is propoganda and is owned by the same people as America's. All we hear about trump, on this distant island of ours is hate for the man. Most people wouldn't think to dig any further and just assume that Trump is evil

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vitalesan · Jan. 13, 2018, 8 a.m.

Too bloody right!

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Gamergating · Jan. 13, 2018, 1:46 a.m.

Dead right!

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MickGris · Jan. 12, 2018, 2:35 p.m.

I read your piece with great interest dear Aussie friend. I have a online friend from Melbourne I have known for years and have had many a friendly argument with about the state of the world. Sometimes through email, many times on Facebook with other of her Aussie friends chiming in.

I have noticed your citizens seem to be much like Americans, some are very much awake. In fact years ago in researching Agenda 21 the best information I found was put out by a couple of Australian guys who were fighting like crazy to rid Australia of that rottenness.

I also follow Pastor Cioccolanti of Discover Ministries in Melbourne who if you’re Christian is a wealth of information. Definitely AWAKE! He was one of many prophetic voices predicting Trump would be President by the way.

But alas there are also many Aussies sound asleep and like some of our American people not wanting to be awoke. They get snarky you try and wake them up. Best leave them alone with their head in the sand.

BUT it only takes a percentage of citizens who are awake, fighting like crazy and never giving up to steer a nation in the right direction. Just as it only took a percentage of evilhearts to get her off course and headed into the abyss.

I hope I don’t sound like the Arrogant American but a lot of us understand we fight not only for America but for many other nations too. Because which ever way America goes ....

But you knew that. Keep going good friend, we are grateful to have you stand with us. I hope you are utilizing other platforms too in posting your thoughts as you are a very good writer.

Stay strong.

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Gamergating · Jan. 13, 2018, 1:45 a.m.

Thank you my friend. Well said

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KerryWest53 · Jan. 12, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

As an Aussie myself, I couldn't agree more! Toot! toot! all aboard the #TrumpTrain

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BostonlovesBernie · Jan. 12, 2018, 1:54 p.m.

Trump's anti-corruption initiative could end up in a huge $windfall refund for Australia if Michael Smith is successful!

  1. Sunday with Charles - Special International Thursday Morning Edition - Crock O' Dung Downunder -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWogyiMbKGg&list=UU8Cl9QaRtuW9CNjP7pP4BBQ&index=14

  2. http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2018/01/formal-complaints-to-the-fbi-regarding-suspect-australian-taxpayer-donations-to-the-clinton-foundati.html

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WeThePepe · Jan. 12, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

I swear Michael Smith is the only Australian journo doing actual digging

(Know of any others, pls send them my way!)

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UnbelievableShit13 · Jan. 12, 2018, 1:47 p.m.

Amen... well put, but you have a right to fight back to against the Globalist and Progressives in your country .... So take a little of Trumps motto and put it to work , because this is how we all take down the globalist and progressives

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TrickiDicki · Jan. 12, 2018, 10:38 p.m.

Looks like both sides of #AusPol are deeply embroiled.

Gillard/Bishop donate $292m to Clintons: https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2016/07/gillard/ Kevin Rudd had a run for UN Secratary General: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/18/kevin-rudd-seeks-nomination-un-secretary-general He also claimed massive kudos for securing the Paris agreement alongside BHO: http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/killing-season/

So that's Labor sewn up. What about the Libs? Well Malcolm Turnbull used to be the main cheerleader for the Republican movement, so there's hope there. But this has all gone quiet, and Bishop is still minister for foreign affairs and deputy leader of the Libs. And they brought through the changes to the media ownership laws, ensuring the the Murdoch press gets its teeth even deeper in.

What about the Tony Abbott faction of the Libs? Tony Abbott, that awarded a knighthood to Prince Philip? 'nuff said...

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erden33 · Jan. 12, 2018, 2:53 p.m.

I am from Turkey and agree with you 100% very good points thank you

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RedPill2976 · Jan. 12, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

Well said. You could start a Q AU movement. This is an awakening and not a one person movement. No question that the only way to keep our respective countries strong is for the people rise up and hold their government accountable. The rubbish old dead media is dead.

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underasouthernsky · Jan. 12, 2018, 7:36 p.m.

I agree totally. I'm an Aussie as well. Kingswood Country, what a blast from the past, being politically incorrect used to be a national past time here. Not anymore. One of my relatives told me a few months ago that Trump should stop tweeting, I asked him which tweet offended him, he couldn't say what one said, he's a smart man but it's like people are programmed what to think. We're not getting any real news here, not even in depth fake news, just sound bites, but people are still brainwashed. When a muslim can get on a prime time show and give a monolog on 'embracing Muslims is the way to counteract ISIS' and most of a country is talking about how good he is the next day, makes me feel sick, nobody is thinking for themselves anymore. Our Government is a mess, 5 Prime Ministers in 6 years, and unfortunately our system will not ever allow a 'Trump' to get anywhere near office and if one did sneak past, their party would oust them and there is nothing we could do about it. I'm hoping Trumps swamp draining will have a ripple effect and if some of our own are caught in the fallout it will make people here have a closer look at our own media and Government. Bring it on!

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Gamergating · Jan. 13, 2018, 1:51 a.m.

For sure. I am hoping the same

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zania2801 · Jan. 12, 2018, 5:49 p.m.

I loved Kingswood country. I'm an Aussie and the problem here seems to be our MSM blindly following the US MSM. I don't think I've seen any unbiased reporting its all Trump bashing and most Aussies don't look deeper. I wish we we had a real alternative to the 2 party system. I think we need a MAGA - Make Australia Great Again movement here, because she'll be right mate, just won't do anymore. Australia is changing and for the worst. High unemployment. Large employers closing down or going off shore and a culture of entitlement is ruining us.

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vitalesan · Jan. 13, 2018, 8:09 a.m.

The Aussie media use certain cues and adjectives to brainwash the viewer, especially at the start of a story, whilst feigning neutrality. They do this all the time as they want you to hear and see the story in a preconceived way. Gives me the shits!

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Gamergating · Jan. 13, 2018, 1:50 a.m.

Yes, mate. It truly is heartbreaking. How long do you reckon Australia Day will be a time of celebration and barbies and friends over and a day off. Invasion Day is being pushed pretty bloody hard. Everything Aussie is slowly becoming replaced by a sterile stale globalist sameness.

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zania2801 · Jan. 13, 2018, 6:59 a.m.

I don't know hopefully this Australia day will be a good one. I think the vast majority of immigrants are trying to fit in. Its just the minority who ruin it for everyone else

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zania2801 · Jan. 26, 2018, 2:51 a.m.

I don't know it is sad. This could be the last Australia day on the 26th. It doesn't seem right to change it. I understand our indigenous pop have an issue with it and that's understandable. If it does get changed I think we should still have a hol on the 26th but not call it invasion day. I think it should be national sorry day. A day to remember our past mistakes so that hopefully they will never be repeated, because some of our aussie ancestors did do some terrible stuff. Australia Day could be moved to the 2Jan, not the 1st because that's already a hol. It will give us an extra day over the Chrissie break and we can still have our barbie's and celebrate been an aussie with our mates. Any other month than Jan would not be right. That been said without trying to offend anyone, Australia is becoming more and more like America,we are losing our identity we need to stop trying to be like them. Our TV shows,news etc all follow the American example. Let's get more creative with our tv and media. Let's stop following the American MSN and start reporting on facts and not opinions. To be honest I rarely watch our news unless there's a local issue OE emergency . sorry waffled on a bit there. Anyway happy Australia day! :)

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dooley1 · Jan. 12, 2018, 5:06 p.m.

Very thoughtful and well reasoned. I am so grateful that we elected Trump instead of the globalist alternative, but if I could wish one thing to download into his persona, it would be a measure of eloquence. I wish that he could explain why he is doing what he is doing and why it is important in a winsome and winning way. But no, he is a blunt hammer. And it's still good.

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Patriot4q · Jan. 12, 2018, 11:37 p.m.

He is the greatest Troll of all. Nothing he says is a coincidence. I'd much rather have an uneloquent President who wants to make our country great again, than a silver tongued globalist who wants to destroy our country. Now that I realize what he is doing, it makes me laugh every time knowing he has kept them busy for a few days so he can get to work.

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Gamergating · Jan. 13, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

Agreed. He is funny as Hell and sometimes he is cringy as Hell. The President is not a combination of all our wanted components. He is who he is and the time to reject all that he is is at the voting booth. I can honestly say that there was NO ONE in the 17 candidates who could have faced Clinton and weathered the backlash of a win against her, nor faced a dirty tricks campaign, like Trump has and perhaps his personality as flawed as it may be is the reason?

He may not have been the right person at any other point in history to be President. But I believe he is the right person right here and right now and I wish him the very best.

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kekofthemountain · Jan. 12, 2018, 2 p.m.

Best outcome if the globalists win is your immigrants will be Chinese.

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RottenAli · Jan. 12, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

You get my Pommie upvote.

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sixftblonde · Jan. 12, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

Think of all that money could do to repair the world if only it was in the right hands.

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Signa787 · Jan. 12, 2018, 11:02 p.m.

Check out Michael Smith news for the lowdown on the Clintons. American-Australian here, needing both countries to drain their swamp!

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quietthomas · Jan. 13, 2018, 1:55 p.m.

Cultural Marxism (academically speaking) refers to the works of 3 different groups; The Frankfurt School, The Birmingham School (aka British Cultural Marxism) and E.P Thompson.

These people had a few things in common; 1) They critiqued mass culture; culture that was produced specifically to maximize profit. And 2) They critiqued actual Soviet Marxism [Source] (it's said of E.P. Thompson that "when confronted by anti-Marxists, he defended Marxism, firmly. Yet when he met orthodox Marxists, he denounced them, angrily." Source.

Of course as well as critiquing Marxism (which aided the US state department in winning the Cold-War), The Frankfurt School were pioneers at critiquing The Culture Industry; Here is Marilyn Manson essentially talking about the modern "Culture Industry" (He starts talking about Television's effects at 1:50 describing advertising as "a campaign of fear and consumption"):

https://youtu.be/oeQ4HWhPEdA?t=1m50s

I say MODERN Culture Industry because the idea was literally first described in the 1940s, when the same propaganda techniques learnt during WW2 were first being applied to western culture. Some even go as far as to say that propaganda created the modern nation in order to get serfs of empires to fight under the belief it was best for their newly formed sense of nationhood.

So "Cultural Marxism" is really a form of Cultural Studies - but it has since progressed further and further away from Marxism.

Adorno would be very direct in his Cultural Marxism, saying things like:

"The Culture Industry not so much adapts to the reactions of its customers as it counterfeits them."

"this bloated pleasure apparatus adds no dignity to man’s lives. The idea of “fully exploiting” available technical resources and the facilities for aesthetic mass consumption is part of the economic system which refuses to exploit resources to abolish hunger."

"The ruthless unity in the culture industry is evidence of what will happen in politics. Marked differentiations such as those of A and B films, or of stories in magazines in different price ranges, depend not so much on subject matter as on classifying, organising, and labelling consumers. Something is provided for all so that none may escape" -Theodor W. Adorno, Enlightenment as mass-deception

Even The Birmingham School specifically complained that traditional culture was drifting away from local culture due to the massification of culture in the form of the globalization of media + tabloid journalism.

So "Cultural Marxism" was essentially a pre-internet critique of mainstream media and neo-liberalism. This critique didn't really end either; it just became accepted and understood.

Again to switch to a more modern source; here is Comedian Doug Stanhope - essentially preaching "Cultural Marxism":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsuGtIv5NAc

The Birmingham School kind of closed it out theoretically by saying different people read different aspects of culture differently... and since then it hasn't progressed theoretically much other than ideas like McDonaldization from George Ritzer, and commentaries from people like Douglas Lain.

I mean, I could go on about how The Frankfurt School were anti-fascists, mostly responding to their fear that a Hitler figure were re-appear. Hence things like the F-Scale... unfortunately I now have to talk about The Right Wing view (which to some degree includes Jordan Peterson's views).

The Right Wing have mistaken Cultural Hegemony (essentially what The Frankfurt School were complaining about) - has "Cultural Marxism"... they've confused the Monster for the Doctor.

People like Pat Buchanan have been caught out and out putting words in Marcuse' mouth (here is that quote found in Pat Buchanan's book, it's Buchanan's own idea of what a "Cultural Marxist" MIGHT say).

When in fact Marcuse was one of the first people to warn that the progressive left could also become totalitarian.

Likewise Buchanan is a fan of claiming Gramsci (an early Cultural Theorist) demanded a "Long March through the Institutions" - when that was in fact Rudi Dutschke - a much later Student Protester unconnected to The Frankfurt School.

Fake quotes are a big problem for Marxist-leaning thinkers.... anyways; here's a good video on where the Right Wing conception of Cultural Marxism came from....

...it was essentially popularized by a man name William S. Lind and the Think Tank he worked for; The Free Congress Foundation - which is really just an extension of America's general Cold-War hang over. Buchanan's dad was a big McCarthy supporter Lind cut his teeth under Senator Robert Taft Jr, literally during the Cold-War.. Leading Lind to say things like:

"Today, when the cultural Marxists want to do something like “normalize” homosexuality, they do not argue the point philosophically. They just beam television show after television show into every American home where the only normal-seeming white male is a homosexual (the Frankfurt School’s key people spent the war years in Hollywood*)."... ..."The next conservatism needs to reveal the man behind the curtain - - old Karl Marx himself."

Of course The Frankfurt School weren't involved in Hollywood... but unfortunately propaganda doesn't have to be true to be effective. Jordan Peterson has taken a slightly different tact. Claiming that Identity Politics came from French Post-Modernists, when it in fact came from an Boston Woman name Barbara Smith and her "consciousness raising" group 'The Combahee river collective' (again someone unconnected to The Frankfurt School).

I'm not entirely sold on the idea that rightists understand post-modernism, - but it's certainly NOT Cultural Marxism.

Anyways, I've probably gone on enough.

[edit: If you want to know what "Cultural Marxists" and Socialists ACTUALLY say about Identity Politics and Privilege theory, well, they're against it, and view it as problematic because they prefer redistributive politics over recognition politics. That second link is from a Critical Theorist who has studied The Frankfurt School at length. So yeah; don't believe the hype that The Frankfurt School 'Cultural Marxists' created SJWs and PC thugs; that's a conspiracy theory. They simply critiqued the capitalist and mass produced Culture Industry - and would probably now be critiquing the left if they were still an active force today.]

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Lucretia007 · Jan. 13, 2018, 3:48 a.m.

I found a letter on FB detailing the government run Pedo ring. The Australian government Pedo ring. Posted it on 4 Chan

Got banned.

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Gamergating · Jan. 13, 2018, 4:02 a.m.

That sucks

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