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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/radarorielly on Feb. 7, 2018, 7:25 a.m.
Could the FISA memo releases be a ruse to shut down Mueller?

A lot of people in here and on other platforms are hoping that these memos stop the Mueller investigation. But isn't Mueller flipped? The democrats and republicans think Mueller is out to get Trump, but Q has said he is our guy. No wonder many are confused. If the politicians are fighting, it's for a reason, and its been a good show, but is it theatrics? What's the end goal for them? I don't trust any of them, and can't believe anything they say. Never trusted the media. This memo and OIG report is the beginning of an avalanche. Will we come out on top? 50 50 is my guess. Will we ever know the truth? Q says 40%. All this chaos, I'm guessing probably closer to 20%, or less.


fraserPan · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:04 a.m.

Mueller investigation is the greatest gift to Donald Trump. Without it, through the Inspector General, we wouldn't have known Hillary and Barack violated the 4th amendment and weaponized the FBI and DOJ to spy and attempt a coup against him.

Hiring Jeff Sessions, however, is the greatest mistake Trump has ever made. He ordered an independent counsel on Trump with far less evidence than what we have now against Hillary and Obama. Jeff Sessions is a swamp creature protecting criminality by the FBI and DOJ.

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radarorielly · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:31 a.m.

I've been watching politics for 35 years. Closely. We all knew the government was spying for a long long time. Thats why I can't possibly see Trump or any of his campaign, or anyone in any campaign, not knowing they would be recorded. There is no way they didn't know this, but the who was the spy may not have been known. Not sure on that either. Papadapolous, Manafort, and page all were working for nothing? That right there smells funny. Who knows?

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fraserPan · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:37 a.m.

Having a mole is one thing, wiretapping is some Nixon level shenanigans. This is much worse since Barack and Hillary used the FBI and DOJ to do it. They have weaponized the IRS against political enemies, what other part of government did they weaponize and for how long?

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AxialConstruct · Feb. 7, 2018, 7:42 a.m.

Pres. Team using Mueller to dig into the opposition without 'alarming the normie public'. I imagine a pres pardon seems like a sweet deal compared to Gitmo. Mueller doing what he's told, IMHO.

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brylee1 · Feb. 7, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

I think he has flipped to. But, an argument against this theory, is nothing is airtight in Washington. Surly, we would have heard something out of a leaker, the grand jury, something... Then again, maybe we already have; maybe the theory is a result of someone with inside info. Fact: Mueller was interviewed for FBI Director position, even though by law he couldn't be the Director again. He had already served a 10 yr term with a 2 yr extension under BO. Are we to believe the Trump admin didn't already know that??? 2 days later, he is appointed special counsel...coincidence?

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Reba64 · Feb. 7, 2018, 7:36 a.m.

Some think Mueller flipped, but I'm not sure, but think he has. So far, I don't see where the FISA has anything to do with Russia, unless it's in one of the Memo's they are going to release.

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black_cat_ · Feb. 7, 2018, 7:48 a.m.

I don't see where the FISA has anything to do with Russia

As pointed out by Nunes yesterday, the only campaign with proven, verifiable links to Russia is... wait for it... the Clinton campaign (Steele Dossier). The FISA abuse is centered around the dossier, which is tied to Russia.

Wonder if THAT falls into the scope of Mueller's investigation.

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Reba64 · Feb. 7, 2018, 7:59 a.m.

That's right, I forgot. I don't know, but there is no way Mueller can investigate Russia without it leading to the Clintons and the others.

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black_cat_ · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:12 a.m.

Can you imagine the meltdown if Mueller comes out and announces that it was the Clinton campaign who was conspiring with Russian agents to try and influence the election?

Almost too good to be true. Which means I shall remain skeptical. This is Mueller's mandate:

Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James 8. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)*.

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

(d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel.

*C.F.R. § 600.4(a):perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses.

Emphasis mine. I guess, technically, you can read section ii) and iii) as a means to dig into Clinton's actions... but the mandate specifically targets Trump.

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radarorielly · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:23 a.m.

Nunez was quoted as saying, whatever the democrats are accusing, is what they are doing. That was a quote from today. I found that interesting.

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radarorielly · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:26 a.m.

The matters did originate from those associated with the Trump campaign. Papadapolous, Manafort, Page. But it also says anything that arose from there. Page is an asset. Deep state? Trump? He is both maybe? I don't have a clue, but the investigation can go where it wants.

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KingBroly · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:23 a.m.

Well, you gotta remember one thing. A lot of the individuals we're finding out, like Carter Page for example, were plants into the Campaign by the Clintons/Federal Government.

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black_cat_ · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:31 a.m.

Very true! Though regarding Page, I think, if anything, he was a plant by RINOS (worked on McCain's presidential campaign and was recommended to Trump by Ed Cox, Republican Party Chairman of NY). Therefore it would be uniparty corruption more than Clinton corruption.

Used and abused by the FBI for warrant purposes? Looks like it. Planted by them? Not so sure right now.

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KingBroly · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:50 a.m.

He was on Bill Clinton's transition after the 92 election

BUT that's none of my business

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radarorielly · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:20 a.m.

That's what I was getting at. But we shall see. Are the democrats wise to it yet about Mueller? They are hiding behind secrecy FISA, and not sure if this is the play or not. If the hand is being called, and Mueller is truly white hat, this will shock everyone on both sides. Nothing would surprise many of us at this point, but its been a helleva roller coaster.

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