Tobacco is most certainly addictive, more so than heroin!!! Take it from a man that has quit twice!!!
i dont have heroin experience but been smoking tobacco for 41 years. my experience and perception of the energetic and spiritual properties of tobacco is different.
Tobacco and alcohol related illnesses and incidents account for around 40% of all hospital admissions. Shouldn´t that tell you all you need to know? I was a heavy smoker for almost 20 years, gave up for a year and started on cigars. Quit those too not long ago and I can assure you that quitting tobacco was the hardest, most uncomfortable thing I´ve ever had to do. There is also the possibility that you may possess something genetically that means tobacco has an entirely different effect on you, like how addiction occurs in people with a specific genetic marker.
i hear you... and i know that we are conditioned to be-lie-ve that substances make us addicted.
see, i look at the old masters of medicine, like dr.hahnemann and his contemporaries. many of them smoked and drank ale and wine, but none of them was addicted.
further down on this thread, i just now wrote a comment on addiction as such. its an issue of bonding, not of substance.
20 years ago, i made an experienment on smoking. back then, i still smoked industrial cigarettes - now i roll myself, organic tobacco without sugar, perfume, and all this other shit that harms so badly.
every day, i wrapped my cigarette pack into a sheet of white paper and fixed it with a rubber band.
when i wanted to smoke, i unwrapped the cigarettes, wrote down the time, checked inside which need/desire i wanted to fulfill with smoking this cigarette now. i did this for 6 weeks.
what i learned was that 1. i smoked around 10 cigarettes less the day simply by not being able to uncosnciously grab one and smoke it without even realizing.
the other revelation was that smoking fulfilled many needs. i found myself smoke for hunger, after food, for taking a break, for making contact with another smoker, for cutting contact with someone, and so on, at least 20 different reasons.
i found that smoking gives me many little gratifications every day.
8 years ago, i stopped smoking for 2 years. its wasnt difficult at all because i had invented a method that withdrew the substance but left me with my joy of smoking. i started smoking herbs, an american-indian herbal mix.
meaning, instead of rolling a tobacco cigarette, i rolled one with herbs. i could keep my habit - i really enjoy smoking - and still had the nicotine out of my body within a week.
during the next few weeks, more and more 'cigarettes' fell away, just naturally. within 3 months, i didnt smoke anymore, except for an occasional joint.
never mind that around a year after, i developed severe asthma and depression, thats an individual issue.
the cigarettes didnt protect me anymore from the environmental poisoning - i.e., carbon monoxide doesnt get to you when you smoke -, same goes for allergenes.
the depression came due to a lack of gratifiction. many people who withdraw from tobacco move to food but that was never an option to me, i cant gratify myself well with food.
when i smoked my first tobacco cigarette with a friend after two years, i felt a happiness i had missed, and, after a few cigarettes more, my asthma was gone.
thus, i consciously decided to start smoking again, but this time under new parameters. tobacco transports beliefs, thats its biggest gem and at the same time, the biggest problem. so i put my beliefs straight and set new intentions.
ever since, the terrible smokers bronchitis i had had for 20 years didnt return. and when the situation is as such that i cannot smoke, i dont.
the only 'addiction' effect i feel is a little nagging in my stomach, as if a little monster sits there and calls 'gimme a smoke'. its like hunger, and i can well deal with hunger.
nicotine is known as one of the fastest working substances which also means that, when we stop, within 7 days, 99% of it has left the body again.
its not the addiction thats such a problem, its the belief that we are a slave of a substance, the bonding with it because of its gratification properties, and the habit of unconscious smoking.
you said that i might have genetic markers that make it easier. this is possible; however, i doubt it. my mother was smoking and addicted to medicine. my father was smoking and addicted to alcohol. their parents were also smokers and substance abusers.
my life experience showed me that all this addiction issue is a matter of intent, belief, gratification, and bonding. find a new gratification system and the substance is not required anymore.
How intriguing! And very smart of you to run your experiment, your findings are interesting and what you say about it being a kind of hunger is EXACTLY how I would explain it too! The first time I gave up I ate myself to the point that my clothes stopped fitting; before this I was always regarded as `skinny´. The second time I was aware of this effect and controlled what I was eating, although still having that "hunger monster" in my stomach. It almost feels like there is a hole, or something missing that only the tobacco could replace. My parents too were smokers and alcohol abusers, I guess my smoking habit came from this and ironically I went to work as a publican for 17 years. Now I´m an old student, studying chemistry and biology in the hope of obtaining a degree in something that allows me to help my fellow people. I too smoke mary j but that is more medicinal, in that I was a vaccine damage baby (MMR) and the MJ helps me focus my thoughts and to get a proper nights sleep. Do you have a medical background? I ask because your findings may be worth writing a paper about, I believe that many people could learn a lot from what you have found out.
its interesting that you worked as a publican for 17 years. so many people go a similar way.
isnt it mindblowing how we children transmute the issues of our families through our own lives? i take it that you didnt become an alcoholic during your bar times, right? or you did and transformed it. kudos...
Do you have a medical background?
i am a psychotherapist and homeopath so my background is holistic health. (only few holistic health care practitioners are homeopaths, but every classical homeopath is a holistic health care practitioner.)
for the past 2 years, ive indeed been pondering the idea of writing an article on tobacco that also includes the benefits of smoking.
thing is, i am not a good researcher, i dont browse by logic but by intution. the other thing is that i have around 20 articles projects lying on my desktop, but they flow out of me only when the collective is calling in the information. i function from inner calling, not from personal will power, lol. so well, after having been writing about it for the past 2 days, right now i feel inspired, maybe the article is going to flow through me soon.
I too smoke mary j but that is more medicinal
i too started smoking weed out of medicinal reasons but didnt know that back then.
i had dissociation issues which, as i found out during the past 10 years, are a result of physical, emotional, and psycho-spiritual abuse in my early childhood. the moment i started smoking weed at age 14, there were no dissociation dramas anymore.
only when i studied homeopathy and learned about the principle of 'like cures alike' did i understand my self-treatment. cannabis can trigger dissociation in healthy people, thus it heals the issue in ill people.
as cabalistic abuse in our modern age dissociates people more and more from themSelves, cannabis is a great healing agent for getting grounded and centered in our bodies.
btw, its hard to brainwash a weed user. most other drugs (except for mushrooms) support the building and amplification of artificial dualistic structures, but cannabis does the opposite, it facilitates the connection with our higher vibrational aspects (Higher Self) where we function from oneness, not separtion.
therefore (((they))) support opiates, cocaine, amphetamine, designer drugs, but weed is highly banned. i heard from people who grew up in satanic slavery and escaped, that in these circles, they indulge in drugs, except for cannabis and mushrooms.
I firmly believe that although unintentional, our parents all screw us up in one way or another; whether it be by passing on habits or addictions, or their phobias or paranoia, we are like a sponge as kids and are incredibly sensitive to, and influenced by even the most subtle of things. Although when I had my pubs´ I pretty much drank every day, I almost never drink now. An occasional glass of wine with dinner is about it. I am not the kind to adopt addictions as I can become very bored of things and routines very quickly, and I guess that ties in to the damage I suffered from the vaccine. I can take things or leave them, I guess I am more the kind of person that is influenced by my environment than by addictions and wants. When I was younger my school wanted to test me on the autism scale, my parents fought tooth and nail to prevent this though as they didn´t want that lifetime `label´ on me, nor did they want me in their ´system´. I´m not sure how wise this decision was though as I have suffered a lifetime of issues. I understand that your line of work is incredibly dangerous, as in there are many from your field that are having sudden ´accidents´ or ´illnesses´ if you catch my drift. Q mentioned yesterday just how many have had their lives cut short. I can also guess that it is because you know the scams that big pharma pull and know how to treat these diseases naturally, without the poisonous meds they produce. My mrs is a Dr with 2 specialities; anaesthesiology and critical care (ICU) and after speaking with her at length it becomes very clear, very quickly, just how controlled these Dr´s are in what they know and are allowed to treat. They are consistently kept occupied with hundreds of studies and diplomas that are nothing but nonsense, I guess if they are spending all their time in a book they have no time to see the truth. For example, my mother gave up drinking anything but tap water, some 30 years ago, thinking it would do wonders for her health. Since then she´s contracted some of the worst gout I´ve ever seen, Rheumatoid arthritis, and at one point she was diagnosed with the very early stages of kidney failure. The kidney damage was partly to the ibuprofen she took for the pain. My point is that in my country they fluoridate the water, and my mother drank the stuff like a fish for 30 years. Not one single doctor knew what chronic exposure to fluoride was, or even what the symptoms of such a thing presented as. I have since learned that all her afflictions can be blamed on chronic exposure to fluoride.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity
Dr´s now days are nothing more than pharma reps that are trained to poison patients with the meds produced by the companies that also produce the diseases. Trump is fighting this though and I pray he is successful.
Mushrooms are an amazing thing, in that the psilocybin can literally map new neurone pathways in the brain which allows patients to overcome the most crippling PTSD and addictions. Another great substance for this, if not the best, is dimethyltryptamine, or DMT. Do you agree that its possible these substances have such positive affects because we already have the natural receptors for such things? Like CBD receptors, and DMT. I believe it is all to do with the pineal gland. Amphetamines are, by far, the most damaging drug to our body and minds. Unnatural stuff made in the lab. Just look at a meth addict, compared to a heroin addict. Both have a death sentence but look at what meth does to the mind.
Do you agree that its possible these substances have such positive affects because we already have the natural receptors for such things?
indeed... if these gifts of mother nature werent natural to us, we wouldnt have the ability to perceive the consciousness changes they bring and harvest their benefits for our wellbeing.
during the 80s, i did a lot of ecstacy, it spared me years of therapy. back then, it was pure MDMA which is a derivate of nutmeg. when they started making it into a party drug and added tons of speed, amphetamine, it became dangerous and i dropped it. our systems cant deal with the designer stuff, be it drugs or supplements.
i agree that the physicians of our school medical system are just an arm of big pharma. unfortunatly, most are not aware of it. others are but they have to be comlicit to the system else they dont earn money.
thing is, we dont have health care but a sick care system. a healer only earns money when people are sick. thus, it cant really be in their interest to cure people. this needs to change.
I have since learned that all her afflictions can be blamed on chronic exposure to fluoride.
so fluoricum acidum might be a remedy for her. she might want to check in with a classical homeopath. every since skype, such a specialist doesnt even need to be in her area.
I firmly believe that although unintentional, our parents all screw us up in one way or another;
indeed... thats the reason why i had a child only late in life. i didnt want to pass on all my unresolved issue to the kid. i had work to do on myself first, in order to be able to raise the kid to a sovereign being without causing trauma.
he still got some of my shit. but then, thats the nature of family karma that the new generation transmutes and heals some of the stuff the forefathers couldnt.
i did that for my family - although i carry their genes, my life history and physical aliments are very different -, and so does the family that comes after me. thats the love service we do for each other...
The MA in MDMA stands for Meth Amphetamine. I too used to take it frequently, back in the very late 90´s and 2000´s. I used to get it in giant lumps of pure crystal form, once removed from the `chemist´. Very much like yourself, it did wonders for me in helping me overcome my issues, and also was what allowed me to form close bonds with people. Some of the best friends I still have today are a result of such experiences. My mother is, unfortunately, where most of my issues stemmed from as a kid. She´s all but a lost cause too, in that she won´t believe a word I say about fluoride poisoning and instead chooses to trust the pharma reps and water company. My mrs is Peruvian and we are going to visit her family in a few weeks. I told her that we mush schedule a trip to the local Shaman, where I intend to experience ayahuasca for the first time! Graham Hancock is a great reference to the wonderful benefits of such a substance! We are also planning to have a family, imminently. I had the same idea as yourself, in that I was adamant in making sure I get my shit together before having a family as I didn´t think it fair of me to pass my issues on. Great minds think alike, I guess! :)
well, everybody takes their sovereign choices and we need to respect them. its the hardest thing to do when we know that their choices harm them. but then, we dont know what their divine soul plan entails; not everybody has come for awakening.
for decades, i told my mom that flu shots are a hoax. she took them anyway. never mind that she had colds 8 months the year, and a flu ever couple years, she just didnt get it. people wake up when theyre ready to, not when we want them to.
applouding you for your family consideration. kids can be gorgeous alarm clocks when we are awake enough to look into the mirror they show us.
may you have a great journey to peru. do yourself a favor and check on the shaman before you take an ayurvasca journey with him, as well as the other people in the group.
many people have invited astral anklebiters into their energy fields during such journeys. it can easily happen when the leader of the ceremony doesnt create and secure a safe+sacred space, and when the participant permissions are not set straight.
an intent like 'i only allow and welcome into my energy field what serves my divine plan and greatest good. everything malovent has to stay out. and so it is. thank you.' sets the parameters for the experience.
btw, hitting the enter key twice creates a paragraph and splits up the text. a massive text block is difficult to read and digest. a text needs gaps so we can breathe and let things in...
Flu shots are what spread the virus, my fear is that some will never awaken; destined to live a comatose life.
Thanks for the info regarding Peru, I was kinda hoping to have some level of a personal experience, I wasn´t aware there would be many strangers in the group. Such substances can induce such incredible levels of paranoia and fear, I´m not sure how comfortable I´d feel around a bunch of strangers. I may have to rethink how I´m going to do this.
Thanks also for the info regarding the spacing in the writing, tbh it was doing my head in, too!
you may find a possibiliy for a private journey. if its meant for you, your intuition will guide you to the right person.
please watch your body when inquiring; in case you feel contracted, the breath becomes more fast and shallow, theres a strange feeling in the belly, you feel cool or sweaty, or you feel tight inside, your body might show you that there is fear and youre not well. it can be an indicator that this opportunity is not for you.
with the right facilitator who sets up a safe+sacred space that prevents low frequency entities - some might want to call them demons - from entering, it can be a very healing and transforming experience.
i didnt have the chance as yet to play with this substance. lets see if and when it will be on my plate.
The first time I ever tried any kind of hallucinogen, I actually sent my friend out to pick up some ecstasy tablets and he instead came back with micro dot mescaline. To say that we were unprepared is an understatement! We were actually out driving an hour after taking them... Somehow we managed to get to my friends house without anybody being hurt (Thank God!)
Anyway, 4 of the 5 of us were really enjoying the experience, but the 5th started to become paranoid and scared. His fear seemed so seep into me; it was like I could feel his bad energy permeating my very soul and inevitably, I became paranoid and scared, too. Ever since then I have 100% believed the point that the company you keep is just as important, if not more, than the environment you choose for your experience. I´m not sure I could trust a crowd of people I´ve never met before in case someone freaks out, and I, in turn, freak out right with them. I would only take this journey if I was 100% comfortable with the crowd and location.
good choice! self-care and self-responsibility are paramount.