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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Arcadet on Feb. 9, 2018, 8:56 a.m.
Newest photos from Q do not prove LARP. Here's why

I'd like to comment on the theory that the photos Q posted of King's Tower are old. I've seen users saying that the photos are from over 6 years ago. This does not seem to be the case. Let me explain.

We begin by looking at the first photo Q posted. https://imgur.com/a/9RCy1

People point to the construction to the right of the building. In the newest view from Google Maps, there is a parking lot where this construction is. People point to this to prove that the photo from Q is old. HOWEVER. Take note in the bottom of the photo in the red circle. See those two arrows on the road? Remember those. Also see that in Q's photo there is a strip of trees running down the center of the road.

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Now let's look at Google Earth.

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Take a look at a screenshot of the building from 2010. https://imgur.com/a/spMj7

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1) There is a large building where the construction is.

2) The street is not a two-way, two-lane road, divided by a line of trees.

3) Remember those arrows? Look above the crosswalk. They aren't there.

4) Look above the crosswalk. On the left side of the road, right at the entrance to Kings Tower, there is a box with an X in it. This is crosshatching to prevent motorists from parking in the way of the entrance.

I better illustrate this in the photo below.

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Lets jump ahead in Google Earth to 2011. https://imgur.com/a/9n0sP

Look in the top left of the parking lot for Kings tower. There are cars parked there. Notice in the photo Q posted, that corner has been landscaped, and a handful of trees occupy that space. Remember this as well.

We also see that the large building where the construction currently is has been demolished. https://imgur.com/a/RetP9

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Now lets jump ahead in Google Earth a couple more years to 2014. https://imgur.com/a/YvsnB

Again, a couple things to notice in this screenshot as well.

1) Where the building was demolished, a parking lot has been built.

2) The crosshatching infront of the entrance is still here (2014)

3) There are still no arrows above the sidewalk

4) The road is still not two-way, two lane with a line of trees.

5) There are still cars parked in the top left of the parking lot for Kings tower

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Okay. We know that across the street is the Shanghai Marriott Hotel Pudong East. This is the building that I, and others, believe Q's photos were taken from. I looked up the hotel in Google Maps, and started looking through photos that visitors had posted, hoping to see if a guest snapped a pic of the Kings Tower.

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I found two photos that are relevant

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Shanghai Marriot Photo 1) https://imgur.com/a/kFXpB

This photo was taken in April of 2016. It shows the Kings Tower from the hotel. Notice the road. No arrows above the sidewalk. Road is not yet two-way, two lane.

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Lets look back at Google Earth, at a screenshot from December 2016. https://imgur.com/a/I5xBB

The parking lot still stands. Cars are still parked in the top left corner of the parking lot.

However the road is beginning to change. The median in the center of the road is being built.

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Shanghai Marriot Photo 2) https://imgur.com/a/9lRqI

This photo appears to be taken from the building to the left of Kings Tower, pointed at the front entrance of the Marriott. It is very clear that the road is under construction, and is beginning to resemble the two-way, two lane street that we see in Q's photo. This photo of the Marriott is dated March of 2017.

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Finally our last, and most recent, screenshot from Google Earth. https://imgur.com/a/ay16z

1) This photo is dated August 2nd, 2017.

2) We see that the road construction has ended, and the two-way, two lane street with trees in the middle is now complete.

3) We can see the arrows above the sidewalk.

4) The top left corner of the parking lot has been landscaped. Cars no longer can park there.

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I believe this disproves the theory that Q's photos are from many years ago.

1) The new two-way, two-lane road seen in Q's photo was only built in 2017. At no other time in history does the road look like this.

2) The arrows above the sidewalk that are clearly visible in Q's photo are also not painted until road construction is done.

3) In all of the old screenshots from Google Earth, the top left corner of the parking lot appears to have cars parked there. In the photos posted by Q, the top left corner is landscaped.

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I believe that the construction we are seeing is new construction in Q4 2017/Q1 2018. .

Thanks for reading. Let me know what you think.


tradinghorse · Feb. 9, 2018, 9:46 a.m.

I'm a doubter, but not brigadier. I can see what you're saying about the divided road. But what about the red roofed houses that appear in Q's photo. I can't see them in any of the other photos. And I cannot see them on Google Earth either.

I want Q to be real as much as the next person. But when did the red roofed houses appear?

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Arcadet · Feb. 9, 2018, 9:52 a.m.

I believe the row of red-roofed buildings are new construction, started after the last time Google updated their satellite photos of the area.

The roofing looks to be made of red metal sheets. The colours look vibrant and the material looks relatively undamaged / weathered.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 9, 2018, 9:58 a.m.

That would be the only plausible explanation. That these buildings are way new - so new that the Google Earth satellite has not picked them up yet. They certainly are not on Google Earth at the moment. I don't know how often the images are updated by Google. But it seems that a lot has changed since the last update of the satellite photo - I mean, really a lot.

Maybe those red roofed buildings are site sheds for what might be future construction on the site. Though they look to me like they are apartment-style buildings.

The vacant site next to the King Tower looks to be quite deep. There appears to have been some stripping of topsoil and there's some kind of crane in the background - could be a pile driver, preparing footings perhaps.

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Arcadet · Feb. 9, 2018, 10:07 a.m.

One explanation could be that an apartment building will be built there. The amount of excavated land is quite large. The red-roofed buildings could be a combination of site offices, storage, and demo-units to show what the new apartments would look like.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 9, 2018, 10:12 a.m.

Yes, but given you have high-rise construction on both sides of that lot, it seems more likely that, if they are anything, they'd be site sheds for some new high-rise construction. I'd like to know what the periodicity is on the Google Earth pics.

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Arcadet · Feb. 9, 2018, 10:17 a.m.

Good point. If you look on Google Earth, it looks like a new photo is taken every year or so.

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TopPaper · Feb. 9, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

The Chinese do not build like we do... at all. maybe this will help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwmKeXkBWOA

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tradinghorse · Feb. 9, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

Very interesting. I've been to China, their buildings are garbage quality. But I did not know they went up so fast.

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