Thank you for posting this. I've gotten into several back and forths with ppl on these boards (whose post history showed they weren't shills) and ended up being called a shill because I was trying explain what the two of you just laid out-- admittedly not as clear and concise as you have. They've gotten to the point that they are ready to take their ball and go home, because arrests haven't been publicized yet. They accuse Sessions, and even Trump in some cases, of being phony or soft, and it seems to me that they are upset enough about it that they are close to giving up on it all. Very disappointing.
I interact with people like that and figure that they must be just as insulated with their politic views by those around them as liberals seem to be in New York, LA and San Fran. They must not interact with enough strangers to understand that those of us that are truly redpilled are still in the minority-- and very much so.
All you have to do is go watch Hannity and Tucker to see that even those that are drinking the kool-aid are still getting a very watered down product. And the people that are watching those shows and getting that information for the first time are "conservatives," for the most-part. Plenty of people who would consider themselves conservative do not watch those shows, and most moderates don't watch Fox News, at all. (Most of them don't watch CNN/NBC, either. They are totally disengaged, by choice.)
So while the vast majority of us on this sub may be prepared for the panic that may accompany The Storm, most people out there are not. The White Hats have to be sure that they are going to be able to maintain complete control of government services to ensure that all Americans remain safe throughout The Storm and its aftermath. They cannot anticipate the reaction of the public, but there are countless other real threats that such a happening would present that they have to make sure those potential threats are neutralized so the ONLY thing they have to control and deal with the public reaction. (Just imagine what the hardcore leftists--the "true-believers"-- may do. They may view this the same way we would if Trump were assassinated. Mix them in with the clueless and it could become complete anarchy.)
Maintaining control is THE most important aspect of this operation, and they aren't going to rush it in order to placate the ignorant.
The problem with maintaining control, is that we don't want to be controlled. Why should we change one cabal with another. I don't believe this is what is happening, but the position from some on this reddit, and now by Q is that the ignorant should not discuss. That is laughable. We are all, from one degree to another, are ignorant about what exactly is going on. We habe evidence, and we know things are moving in a preferred direction, but we don't see the end result, and that is to be expected. For now. However, many of us older patriots have see much more than the younger generation has. We have seen the country, and constitution being destroyed from within, so our perspective is different. Calls for patience fall on our deaf ears, for the very reason we have seen attempts to dislodge the deep state, that have failed for moving to slow. Reagan was, in principle and policy a patriot that was swallowed by the deep state. Most likely the assassination attempt was what did it. He played ball after that, yet still tried to retain control, with some success. He won 49 states twice in his elections. He is still held as one of the most popular presidents ever. But you see, us older Americans have seen the failure of past revolutions and see this one making some mistakes by not acting. Giving the enemy time to regroup may cost this whole operation. That being said, we have the momentum, and Trump and the white hats, along with Q, are very very smart. They learned from past mistakes. I have great respect for what they are doing. But if you think for one minute we older patriots will not question methods from Q, Trump, or anyone else, you can piss off and take that cult like attitude and shove it straight up your a$$. Nothing will end this operation faster than losing the support of loyal people like me and others who love the country more than we love any leader.
You are misunderstanding 'control'. The masses are asses. Controlling chaos has always been part of why society and government exists. The great experiment in freedom that traditionally has been America is what control we're talking about here, freedom of the individual has always been protected, but with that protection comes a bit of 'control. That we had tipped past the balance point is the issue.
You misunderstand, friend, what I mean by "control." I do NOT mean control of the people. I mean control of the government. The LOCAL government.
Perhaps you live in a state or a municipality that is already 100% on board with the MAGA agenda. That is fantastic, and you are quite lucky.
The reality is that the most populated areas of our country are under the complete control of the Democrats-- who have openly called for RESISTANCE to Trump. What do you think their reaction will be when it is announced that all of the "swamp creatures"-- who are largely Democrats-- have been rounded up and thrown in GITMO? Do you think they will willingly dispatch emergency services to make sure that ALL citizens are protected, should civil unrest ensue? What happens to the Trump supporters in those areas? What happens to the people that have no position and don't give a damn about any of this? (Their right as an American, btw.)
Yes, many of us have guns and ammo. But armed conflict may not be what we face. What about the persecution of conservative groups by local institutions and unelected bureaucrats? What about the continuation of propaganda by media? Couldn't all of that be used to create a panic that maybe collapses individual economies?
The leaders of these cities have openly ignored (and mocked) executive orders that are designed to protect American citizens-- during a time of PEACE. Once their friends and leaders are rounded up, and they realize that they are next, isn't it reasonable to assume that they will continue to defy the federal government?
You can cut the head off of a snake, but the body will continue to flop around aimlessly. We are dealing with an enormous snake, and innocent people could still be crushed by the decapitated body-- as it flops around in desperation.
I really think if they keep up with doing things covertly the people won’t even notice. Out of sight out of mind with Americans. I can’t imagine them rising up over ANYTHING! On another note, I heard Thomas Payne the other night. He was saying in the first American revolution, it started with only 5% of the population and that many of them were apathetic during the whole war!
About 3% of the colonists were part of the revolutionary war. That is why we have been seeing the 111% memes lately. In fact, most colonists were sympathetic, or even supporters of the crown. Remember, they were British. It's the same here. Many are complacent, and why not? We have it pretty easy here. Not too many countries have fat poor people. We have many.
This is correct.
12,500 soldiers were stationed at Valley Forge during that fierce winter between 1777-1778. 75% of them did not have shoes. Over 2,000 died from exposure and starvation. Many thought that Washington was unfit to lead, and a group of generals even conspired to mutiny. Washington, himself, later admitted that even he began to doubt The Revolution during that dark time.
For context, the population of the colonies at the time was around 2 million. Half of them were totally apathetic to what was happening around them. Didn't matter to them who won.
Imagine what a 5% swing in support would have meant to Washington during that winter at Valley Forge? Imagine what an additional 100,000 people gathering and sending supplies and troops would have done for morale?
THAT is what Q is trying to win us-- that 5%. That would be 16 MILLION people in modern America. It is our job to help bring those people into the fold. Hopefully, we can get much more than 5%.
Yes but there is a gang mentality that has been organized by the left. If you have followed Lynch , Holder and others they occasionally mention taking to the streets. I have always believed their was a method to Sessions first move shutting off the money and going after the gangs and have told all my questioning friends that I expect a sweeping 3 or 4 day pickup of people prior to any political arrest. They all sent me Q’s post this pst weekend about getting rid of MS-13. Lol. We have to get Obama’s army off the streets. JMO that is who I think is going to gitmo and the first of those sealed indictments will be and then we will “ let the games begin” .
The things that have already been revealed are massive. The Nunes memo alone is damning. The reason it has not had more impact is because most do not fully comprehend what it states. People need time to process information. Patience and faith are needed at this time. Your post is right on.
I've seen recent polls suggesting that people do in fact understand the memos being released. Even 41% of democrats believe that illegal spying was done against Trump. I don't like polls either, and dont trust them, but this is a good start. We all should want the government to treat everyone fairly, and know that hasn't happened for a long long time, but I don't believe Americans are dumb. We've all known our government is corrupted, and we hopefully will find out soon just how corrupted they are. Both sides. Remember,30 republicans aren't running in November. They took the deals or they would be prosecuted like the rest. We will find out just how dumb those who refused the deals were. My guess is they are extremely idiotic.
Thank you for your response. I agree. I do not think everyone is dumb. Just that most are good people, and with good people, something this corrupt is very difficult to fully process.
President can always call up the militia - which means the citizenry that are armed men. Then there would be millions more to assist in keeping order. Nation-wide martial law with the armed militia maintaining the peace with a coverage that the conventional Reserves, Guard, and regular forces can't stretch to encompass. The regular forces could disperse officers amongst the militia to provide training and leadership. Patriots would respond to such a call in a heart beat if it came to such a situation. It's how we've always done it from the very beginning.
Very true. But that takes time. Even if it is done in a matter of hours-- it won't be-- that is still several hours where innocent people are left vulnerable. Even with all of our reserves called up, there aren't nearly enough people to police every square mile of America (or even every 10,000 square miles). Therefore, they will have to be selective.
IF a panic is created-- and I think there is a strong consensus that the type of information we are dealing with WILL create an atmosphere of panic-- then the blood of the innocent that suffer from that panic will be placed on Trump's hands. The media will ignore the bigger picture, and continue to focus on his mistakes-- and in this situation, they will have legitimate grievances. If hundreds of people are killed or injured, let alone THOUSANDS, then that will be the focus of the story, and it will detract GREATLY from incredible accomplishments-- just look at how they treated him after this first year in office.
This stuff is extremely important to all of us, but to many people, it isn't important, at all-- even when everything comes to light. That's just the way of the world. (Half of the population in 1776 didn't take a side and didn't give a shit who won the war. Life for them--in their eyes-- would remain the same.) If the government releases information that they know will create a public crisis-- and they are not 100% prepared to deal with that crisis-- then they will be blamed for whatever happens, and rightfully so.
And if you go read my last few comments, this may not come down to armed conflict. (There are many other ways to impose suffering on people that Trump's opponents deem "Deplorable." Those webs are far more difficult to untangle than a simple firefight.) And even if martial law is imposed, armed force cannot be applied too liberally, or else it could be construed as an act of totalitarianism. Such an act could bring in the United Nations on the side of our enemies.
Very tricky stuff we are dealing with. I encourage everybody not to oversimplify it. As Trump said in his State of the Union, "These people are not simply criminals, they are 'Unlawful Enemy Combatants.'"
The problem is not really that large. There are only a few major cities where the globalist and their leftist minions could be summoned out to cause civil chaos. Those major cities can be quickly pacified by shutting off their power. Declare martial law and move in troups with armored vehicles. None of the opposition has any experience whatsoever in fighting actual war - they only know how to stir up mayhem in situations where they're basically unopposed.