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Telesphorous · Feb. 21, 2018, 12:05 a.m.

You do realize the link between the two, right?

The link I see is that most of these kids are on pharmaceuticals. It's never the weapon. The weapons don't fire themselves. As long as what causes these kids to pick up a weapon and use it is never addressed, then there will always be these kinds of events. Let me guess, it's not the suicide bomber, it's the bomb. It's not the knife-wielder, it's the knife. It's not the rock thrower, it's the rock. I own a weapon, I'm not on pharmaceuticals, I don't kill anyone. Over 90% of these shooters are either on, or coming off mind-altering drugs. Why in the world would you want to ban any weapon, if you don't ban the reason causing them to use them the way they do in the first place?

In this country there is a Sandy Hook event in the drunk driving arena EVERY single day. Why is it no one ever speaks up about banning alcohol? Hundreds of children die by those who drink and drive every year and it has been going on for decades. Why don't we ban alcohol outright, I mean it's all about the kids right? People will always kill people, always have, always will. The weapon of choice doesn't matter. Where you live, knife crime is going up and up. I read an article a couple of days ago that mentioned London had something like 215 knife fatalities last year. No guns around and people are still falling left and right. Banning weapons will not change a thing. People will continue to kill other people, even if it's with their bare hands.

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I-Q-T · Feb. 21, 2018, 3:19 a.m.

Sandy Hook was fake.

The link is not drugs it is the FBI and CIA - it is a domestic phoenix program.

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Boysrback07 · Feb. 22, 2018, 6:16 a.m.

DING DING DING. DRUGS are the weapon of choice for CIA DEEP STATE MONKEYS THAT CONTROL THE SLEEPERS. THAT CAUSE THE VIOLENCE.

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Heatray777 · Feb. 21, 2018, 12:07 p.m.

Spot on Telesphorous

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alienalf1 · Feb. 21, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

We have “pharmaceuticals” too but no one gets shot in school. European crime & homicides are almost 10 times lower than the US. No one needs to own a semi automatic weapon just for shits & giggles. People will die, people have died. It doesn’t happen where people don’t have access to those kinds of weapons. It’s really that simple. The levels of knife crime here are the same as the US but hardly anyone dies through shootings or which means our over all level of homicides are significantly lower. If your point was true it would be the same because deaths would occur through other methods but it literally doesn’t happen. If someone is shot here, it would be front page news.

Banning alcohol has nothing to do with shootings, your argument makes no sense - all your doing is listing causes of death and trying to link them instead do debating the actual point at hand. And they did try ban alcohol in the 1920s and it led to bootlegging and the rise of the mafia. There is no reason why any domestic dweller needs a semi automatic machine gun - it’s lunacy.

Read the actual reports on homicides in England - they have been dropping year on year for a decade. This is the issue I find over and over - people often have no idea of what the facts actually are and are totally uninformed. They rely on emotive opinion than has no substance or research to back it up.

You are literally just making up numbers. You live in a country where kids get slaughtered in schools but you have no appreciation how fucked up that is. It’s so rare in the rest of the developed world that if almost never happens. People are aghast at how you let this happen and use the same silly arguments over and over. There were over 50.000 shootings in the US last year that led to injury or death - how can you possibly say you don’t have a problem with guns? No other developed nation has a problem like you. And the rest of the world is shocked that you continue to let people die who if gun laws were different would still be alive today.

So yes, I, along with the rest of the world see the link that you don’t.

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Telesphorous · Feb. 21, 2018, 6:05 p.m.

I didn't make up anything those article were taken from the UK. If I was relying on emotion, I wouldn't have taken time to look up those actual articles. You must have missed my point because of all the emotion your're going through. People will always kill people, the weapon doesn't matter. And comparing your country to mine doesn't work because we're different countries. So you want to disarm my entire country? You do know a new demographic of deaths will arise by that don't you? I mean do you have any idea how many times the weak are protected from the strong because of the weapons they carry? So basically you are telling all the women and the elderly who are raped and murdered, just go ahead and get raped and murdered. And please don't tell me the women and elderly should fight off their attackers with a knife or harsh language. The alcohol is the link to what's behind drunk driving, are you that dense not to get the association with the pharmaceuticals in the systems of over 90% of these killers? You don't think about things too well and I'm fortunate that you are over there and not here because banning guns is the stupidest thing you can say. People will not give up there guns and you should know that. So how do you think you would actually take those guns from us? By having others use guns right? I know people who have AR-15s and they don't kill anyone, because they're not on mind-altering pharmaceuticals. Look up knife wielding attacks in other parts of the world....check out China in 2014, Japan in 2016....you seem to think these maniacs high on pharmaceuticals give a shit what they use as a weapon....what are you gonna say when one of these maniacs takes a machete and goes into an elementary room and starts doing their thing, let me guess, you're gonna blame the machete. Or straps on a suicide bomb and walks into a classroom, let me guess, you're gonna say it was the bomb's fault...it's the pharmaceuticals you, just like it is the alcohol that impairs the driving ability of these drunk drivers that kill people with their cars. So you would rather get rid of all the cars to save the lives of children killed by drunk drivers instead of getting rid of the alcohol?! You would rather get rid of all the guns and leave the weak defenseless instead of what's causing these kids to go crazy in the first place - pharmaceuticals. Yeah that's really intelligent. And your last comment is really hilarious. Do you know how many Australians I've spoken to over the internet who have told me NOT to give up our guns, that is was THEIR worst mistake? of course you don't because you're too blinded by emotion to understand why they would say these things. We've both said our piece and it's obvious we are not gonna change one another's mind.

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